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Posted: 8/1/2011 7:01:23 PM
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Police concealed cop's gun crime, sources say

BY DAVID GAMBACORTA
Philadelphia Daily News
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Posted on Mon, Aug. 1, 2011

HE STARTED crying, just a little at first, but then he couldn't stop, and the tears flowed like a waterfall.

Officer Anthony Magsam was in a world of trouble. It was August 2009, police sources said, and the young cop with high-ranking relatives in the Police Department had just tearfully confessed to stealing parts from two automatic weapons from the department's Firearms Identification Unit.

He found a measure of comfort from his boss, Lt. Vincent Testa, the commanding officer of the unit.

Rather than reporting Magsam, who allegedly committed a federal crime punishable by up to 10 years in prison, Testa agreed to quietly transfer him to another unit and not to report the theft, according to numerous sources with direct knowledge of the incident.

Everything went according to plan. Until now, that is.

On Friday, Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey called for an audit of the FIU in light of the alleged cover-up, and he transferred Testa out of the unit.

The moves were made after the Daily News began inquiring about the transfer and about the Internal Affairs investigation, which appeared to have stalled after having been opened more than a year ago.

Also, the lead Internal Affairs investigator was replaced, as was Capt. Carmen Vuotto, who was overseeing the investigator's work. Vuotto previously worked in the FIU with Testa.

Left untouched, thus far, was Magsam, whose mother, Barbara Feeney, a longtime police sergeant, is married to retired police Chief Inspector Michael Feeney.



Federal crime left unpunished?

Magsam was known by colleagues in the FIU as a gun collector, and he spoke often about knowing how to convert semiautomatic weapons into automatic weapons, according to more than a half-dozen police sources who are familiar with the Internal Affairs investigation and Magsam's tenure in the unit.

When firearms examiners discovered that parts from an AR-15 and M2 carbine had been removed - and crudely replaced with parts from a semiautomatic weapon - many immediately suspected Magsam, the sources said.

The stolen parts were soon returned - and photographed by members of the FIU - and Magsam offered a tearful confession to Testa, the sources said.

Being in possession of stolen or unregistered automatic-weapon parts is a violation of the National Firearms Act, according to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

But Magsam was never reported, disciplined or arrested.


Continued at http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20110801_Police_concealed_cop_s_gun_crime__sources_say.html

UPDATE

The Pennsylvania State Police are getting involved. Still no sign of the BATFE on this yet.

From http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/dncrime/State-Police-to-audit-firearms-unit.html:


State Police to audit firearms unit
MONDAY, AUGUST 1, 2011

State Police will conduct the audit of the Police Department’s Firearms Identification Unit that Commissioner Charles H. Ramsey called for after the Daily News raised questions about alleged weapons tampering in the unit.

The People’s Paper reported today that after Officer Anthony Magsam was caught stealing parts from two automatic weapons in the unit, his supervisor, Lt. Vincent Testa agreed to quietly transfer him, according to several sources with knowledge of the incident.

Being in possession of automatic weapons parts is a federal crime punishable up to 10 years in prison.
Testa was removed from the unit last week.

“We’ll have a new look at the case and see what we’ve got,” Ramsey said yesterday. “We’re moving along very quickly. We’ll let the cards fall where they may.”

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Philly pd has m2 carbines that's interesting
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I am either loading mags or eating snacks

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Posted: 8/1/2011 7:13:17 PM
Originally Posted By Fincho:
Philly pd has m2 carbines that's interesting


Registered ones, too. With any luck, some aspiring FFL will make them a deal for some brand new, non transferable whatevers and get the carbines into civilian hands.
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Originally Posted By kcr121:
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
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Voice: (215) 446-7800
Fax: (215) 446-7811
Email: PhilDiv@atf.gov


This is what the ATF is supposed to do and not export guns to Mexico to serve a political agenda.
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Posted: 8/1/2011 7:16:07 PM
2003: Magsam joins the department as a patrol officer in Northeast Philadelphia's 15th District.

Feb. 20, 2008: Magsam is transferred to the Firearms Identification Unit in North Philly.

August 2009: Parts from two automatic weapons held by the unit are discovered to have been stolen. Lt. Vincent Testa, the FIU's commanding officer, demands the return of the parts, according to sources.

One day later: An unidentified woman calls FIU to say that the gun parts are in the basement. A tearful Magsam confesses to stealing the parts, according to sources. The sources said that Testa then instructed him to request a transfer to the 15th District by saying that he couldn't handle work in the FIU.

Aug. 27, 2009: Testa instructs the FIU staff to photograph every gun in the unit's possession "in light of recent events."

June 2010: An anonymous tip is sent to Commissioner Charles Ramsey, according to Deputy Commissioner William Blackburn. Ramsey says he forwarded the tip to Internal Affairs.

April: Nearly every member of the FIU unit is interviewed by Internal Affairs.

Friday: After Daily News questions, Ramsey calls for an audit into FIU and transfers Testa out of the unit. The lead Internal Affairs investigator and his captain are replaced.
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How stupid!

Plus, he put other officers in jeopardy. Say they were relying on auto fire and.....opps, no dice.
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Originally Posted By Super_Duty_John:
How stupid!

Plus, he put other officers in jeopardy. Say they were relying on auto fire and.....opps, no dice.


I don't know for sure but I thik those are the guns used for ballistic comparison or testing, higly doubt any of those ever see the street even from a window these days.
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Originally Posted By Super_Duty_John:
How stupid!

Plus, he put other officers in jeopardy. Say they were relying on auto fire and.....opps, no dice.


More than that. Every investigation involving FIU is now tainted once it lands up in court. Scumbags are going to walk free. Imagine your family member was killed and now the FIU evidence is unusable because of this evidence tampering case.
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Very isolated incident.
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Originally Posted By Fincho:
Philly pd has m2 carbines that's interesting

It's a small unit with an enormous task: to examine, study, test-fire and catalog the several thousand firearms that police confiscate from criminals and crime scenes ever year. The unit also processes bullets and other forms of ballistic evidence The FIU also maintains an archive room of 1,200 rifles, handguns and other weapons that firearms examiners use as reference points when they examine new cases.


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My guess is those two automatics are used for testing and are not carried by the officers

Might have been seized at one point from criminals
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Sounds like his wife stuck it in and broke it off.

Of course this is as surprising as can be, who would expect this kind of action from a kid who likely got his job via family connections, while more qualified candidates were passed over?

I have never heard of nepotism being a bad thing!

Really though, how stupid could the kid be, there can't be much excuse for stealing parts that are likely easy to get, legal to buy, and likely dirt cheap. Hell, with the connections he had there is no reason he couldn't have swung a full auto weapon assigned to him as a take home if he just wanted to play.
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He forgot who he OWED,

ask Code4ar about it
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I expect a strong chorus of "he didn't do anything, no evidence has been provided, it could have been a frame-up, and he only confessed to protect his wife, we won't know until we see the report". That is one of my favorite songs, especially when sung in a high shrill squeal.
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Rather than reporting Magsam, who allegedly committed a federal crime punishable by up to 10 years in prison, Testa agreed to quietly transfer him to another unit and not to report the theft, according to numerous sources with direct knowledge of the incident.



Bernard Law just lol'd.
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Originally Posted By Super_Duty_John:
How stupid!

Plus, he put other officers in jeopardy. Say they were relying on auto fire and.....opps, no dice.


Oh well.
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What parts would you steal from an AR-15 that you cannot get at any gun show for $100?
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In before Bama says cops are exempt from the NFA.
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Officer Anthony Magsam:



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Very isolated incident.

The stealing NFA items or the cover up?
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Wow, Philly PD fucking up...how highly unusual.
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They will all get nothing as far as actual criminal punishment.

They will [if it even goes anywhere] get a "losing job is punishment enough" judgment if it does go anywhere.
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For a second there I thought that cops name was Anthony Mangasm.

Carry on.
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Just another isolated incident.
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Why steal common parts you can pick up at a gun show?

Beyond stupid.
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It's worse than just stealing parts.

1) FIU tech stole automatic parts and altered other evidence guns.
2) LT covered up the theft.
3) Internal Affairs officers removed from duty for failure to conduct a proper investigation
4) Chief let chase sit until pressure applied from the media.


Now, there are reports of shredding documents in the FIU.

Ramsey also replaced the lead investigator on the case, noting that he believed that the case had lagged and should have been finished six months ago.

Also Friday, he sent Internal Affairs investigators to the unit after witnesses said a civilian who worked for Testa had been shredding documents.


And that the FIU did not examine evidence to get clearance rates down.


But according to numerous sources with knowledge of the unit and internal memos obtained by the Daily News, Testa instructed examiners to skirt the process he had touted publicly.

"It was a lot of smoke and mirrors," said a source with firsthand knowledge of the unit. "He had them ship hundreds of weapons, maybe more, without ever being examined."


It could get interesting with comments like this.


Ramsey said Internal Affairs investigators were looking for specific case numbers of weapons that were supposedly shipped without being examined, a task that will be aided by State Police.



Though Testa wouldn't comment on the numerous allegations against him, his ex-wife, Donna Testa, spoke in his defense.

"There's no way I believe any of the allegations," she said yesterday. "He's a good guy, straight as an arrow.

"Whatever he did, he sent up the chain of command. I think there's something to be said about the people above him.

"They're making him the fall guy."
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Posted: 8/2/2011 10:02:39 AM
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Originally Posted By Super_Duty_John:
How stupid!

Plus, he put other officers in jeopardy. Say they were relying on auto fire and.....opps, no dice.


More than that. Every investigation involving FIU is now tainted once it lands up in court. Scumbags are going to walk free. Imagine your family member was killed and now the FIU evidence is unusable because of this evidence tampering case.


How many actual scumbags does a dedicated firearms unit deal with? I imagine that as with ATF, they spend more time ferreting out (or manufacturing) regulatory violations than doing anything useful.
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The FIU is responsible for processing crime scene weapons and spent cartridges.

So if they altered evidence guns and also failed to process evidence in order to keep their backlog stats down; scumbags are going to walk as a result.

Crooked cops let criminals walk.
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The FIU is responsible for processing crime scene weapons and spent cartridges.

So if they altered evidence guns and also failed to process evidence in order to keep their backlog stats down; scumbags are going to walk as a result.

Crooked cops let criminals walk.


I can't imagine that in the cases they lied about, that the lies were to the benefit of the defendant. So how many innocent people wound up in prison because they lied and because they lied how many of the guilty got away with it because the FIU pinned it on someone else?
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Originally Posted By scottedward58:


I can't imagine that in the cases they lied about, that the lies were to the benefit of the defendant. So how many innocent people wound up in prison because they lied and because they lied how many of the guilty got away with it because the FIU pinned it on someone else?


You didn't read the thread obviously.

They did not lie to benefit the defendants nor pin things on people.

They just did not process firearms used in crimes as they were required to do. These reports were required in court cases to convict bad guys who walked because the DA did not have it to use.


By not test-firing guns, the FIU was potentially missing out on a chance to use their findings on shell casings to solve cases by matching data in the IBIS, sources said.

And waiting to examine a gun that had been directly shipped to City Hall until it was needed for a court case could scuttle cases for cops and prosecutors - especially if examiners ran out of time to check out the weapon.

"It could be the difference between a guilty and not-guilty verdict," said defense attorney A. Charles Peruto Jr. "I've seen it happen. I had a defendant with an aggravated-assault [gun] case, and the prosecutor had requested that the gun be tested.

"He was handed the file at the last minute, and he realized that the gun had never been tested," Peruto said.

The case was later dismissed, he said.


"One of the most significant things that attorneys argue over is the chain of custody of evidence: whose hands were it in, why was it there?" Peruto added.

"If you're scrambling right before a trial to find a weapon, that can bother jurors more than you think."
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Sounds like par for the course with the Philly PD...
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FWIW, the local program of "processing" guns was principally concerned with boosting NIBIN submissions. I don't think the local sheriff participates anymore.

Total cost of NIBIN to date (federal costs only; does not include local agency costs of submission): $3.7 Kajillion

Crimes solved using NIBIN.......................................................................................................: None.

If this buffoon was failing to do submissions of that kind, it is highly unlikely that any harm was done.
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Originally Posted By para_frame:
In before Bama says cops are exempt from the NFA.


This is what a federal judge in IL ruled.

However, theft of property is still theft. Should have been fired and prosecuted.
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