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Posted: 7/25/2011 10:27:14 PM
Bathtub drain is draining really slow. Happens about once a year and I usually just unscrew the push-down stopper and remove the usual big, funky chunks of hair...wife and daughter use that tub so there always hair everywhere.

Anyway, this time that didn't do the trick and the drain is still plugged somewhere further down the line. Any suggestions on what's the strongest liquid drain cleaner out there? Plastic pipes.

Thanks.
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Posted: 7/25/2011 10:29:03 PM
I only use prescription strength drain cleaner
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Posted: 7/25/2011 10:30:52 PM
i use the pro drano stuff every couple of months - it works decent if i let it soak for 20-30 minutes.
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Muratic acid.
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Posted: 7/25/2011 10:34:01 PM
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I only use prescription strength drain cleaner


Don't want any homemade acid concoctions...

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Posted: 7/25/2011 10:54:50 PM
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Floweasy, if you can find anyone nearby that will sell it to you. It's mainly marketed to plumbers through supply houses. Of course, a good drain snake works wonders.
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Posted: 7/25/2011 11:07:36 PM
Snake / Auger if you don't like pouring chemicals down your drain.

Muriatic acid will work and not harm the plastic pipes, though it can produce some really foul gasses; make sure you have plenty of ventilation.

Liquid chlorine will also work and not harm the plastic pipes. You might be able to get away with it's less concentrated cousin: Laundry bleach.
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Posted: 7/25/2011 11:12:06 PM
Liquid Fire. Usually available at Ace Hardware outlets.

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Posted: 7/25/2011 11:24:55 PM
There used to be one extra strong one, brand name Sulfury, a sulfuric acid drain cleaner, but a net search doesn't bring it up, so I'm thinking it got banned by the govt, too hot to handle.
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Posted: 7/25/2011 11:26:08 PM
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Ok.

I am a CPO and used to manage a $50million dollar aquatic facility. That included janitorial duties of staff.

I kept this stuff under lock and key, or it'd be used too much. It was recommended by a salesman whose company didn't even sell it. I would only use it during HUGE events, usually the type that were televised, when we had clogs that needed attention.

THIS IS THE ANSWER.

The product is called ONE-SHOT.

Flush with TONS of water. Being a world-class facility, we didn't care about utility bills. Let me caution you:

used incorrectly you will cause damage to pipes. I had a staff member do some damage once. The packaging almost reads like the South park opening and tells you to never use it.

But this isn't a mall hot sauce type warning label. This stuff will do damage.

http://www.blackswanmfg.com/ONE-SHOT.htm

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Posted: 7/25/2011 11:32:14 PM
before you go the chemical route how about trying this:

http://www.amazon.com/Cobra-Products-650-Drain-Blaster/dp/B000BOKM26

My tub drain was completely stopped up, would take the entire day to drain. Three blasts of air from this and the drain is perfect
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Posted: 7/25/2011 11:32:51 PM
IF you go to your local walmart in the do it yourself / paint / plumbing general corner there will be more drain cleaners than in the cleaning area. One will be in a black bottle and the bottle will be in a sealed bag. Use this one carefully.
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Posted: 7/25/2011 11:34:37 PM
Liquid Fire. It's concentrated sulfuric acid.
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Posted: 7/25/2011 11:34:44 PM
don't do it man.

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Posted: 7/25/2011 11:39:21 PM
I would think going with one of the sulfuric acid based cleaners would be worth a try.
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Posted: 7/25/2011 11:41:30 PM
Try a big stock pot of boiling water first.

That can sometimes melt away the soap and crude.

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Is this related to the "Breaking Bad" dissolving a human body thread?
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Posted: 7/25/2011 11:43:24 PM
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Posted: 7/25/2011 11:46:43 PM
Red Hot Sewer Solvent works real good.
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Posted: 7/25/2011 11:47:31 PM
Most plumbers can climb over your counter. Maybe call one?


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Posted: 7/25/2011 11:50:38 PM
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IF you go to your local walmart in the do it yourself / paint / plumbing general corner there will be more drain cleaners than in the cleaning area. One will be in a black bottle and the bottle will be in a sealed bag. Use this one carefully.


This and read the contents carefully, buy the one with the strongest sulfuric acid. Sometimes you can find up to 98% with just some dye added.
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Posted: 7/26/2011 12:05:13 AM
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I did the drain cleaner chemical crap for years at my old house. Eventually it would always lead to calling a plumber.
With the amount of $$$ I dumped down the drain over the years, I could have bought a nice power-snake and done it like a pro.

When I moved into a newer house, after a few years I am noticing the same deal - hair/women crap-building up in the bathroom tub/sink. My wife loses more hair than anyone I know. I can't believe she isn't bald.
I went and bought one of these - but haven't used it yet. I figure for $40.00 - that's about 3 bottles of the chemical crap that I don't trust.

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100048949/h_d2/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&keyword=rigid+power+spin&jspStoreDir=hdus&Nu=P_PARENT_ID&selectedCatgry=SEARCH+ALL&navFlow=3&catalogId=10053&langId=-1&ddkey=Search

It's a Rigid Power Spin Drain Gun.
You can remove the handle, and chuck it up in your drill. It will slip right past your metal bars down in the tub drain, so no need to disassemble anything. Just run it down the drain and turn on your drill. I guess running some water down the drain while powering it up helps quite a bit.
That's my 2 cents.

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Thrift. I haven't a clue how it works, but it works wonders. For $7 at a plumbing supply store you can't afford not to try it.

Its crystalline and activated by hot water, dont touch with your bare hands.

It eats hair, and grass. :)

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Posted: 7/26/2011 1:18:11 AM
The black bottle in the sealed bag one works well. Basically look for the one with the scariest warnings on it and buy that one. If it mentions possibly burning down the house and the fumes making you and your descendants for seven generations retarded, then its probably the good stuff. THEN, actually read and follow the directions!
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I just pulled the sink drain pipes back to the wall this Saturday...my solution to your problem? Get rid of the source!!!
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Sulfuric drain opener.
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I've always used Red Devil Lye. Works great for me.
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Posted: 7/26/2011 1:52:45 AM
Liquid Plumr gel.

My tub would have 4-5 inches of water in it after taking a shower. So, in went the liquid plumer gel. Follow directions. The only thing I did different was I poured a pot of really hot [almost boiling] water in . Did the trick. Still draining fine 6 months later.
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Posted: 7/26/2011 2:30:17 AM
Originally Posted By Lamron:
The black bottle in the sealed bag one works well. Basically look for the one with the scariest warnings on it and buy that one. If it mentions possibly burning down the house and the fumes making you and your descendants for seven generations retarded, then its probably the good stuff. THEN, actually read and follow the directions!


That's ONE-SHOT.
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Posted: 7/26/2011 8:16:51 PM
Originally Posted By Plumber576:
Originally Posted By Lamron:
The black bottle in the sealed bag one works well. Basically look for the one with the scariest warnings on it and buy that one. If it mentions possibly burning down the house and the fumes making you and your descendants for seven generations retarded, then its probably the good stuff. THEN, actually read and follow the directions!


That's ONE-SHOT.


I picked this up from Home Depot and it came in a plastic bag...about $8 bucks. It worked better than anything I have ever used. The clog is gone.



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Posted: 7/26/2011 8:45:43 PM
Hercules Clobber

Some nasty stuff. Probably won't be able to get it without a master plumber's license though.
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Hercules Clobber

Some nasty stuff. Probably won't be able to get it without a master plumber's license though.

+1
or so I've heard you need to get it at a plumbing supply house....

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Hercules Clobber

Some nasty stuff. Probably won't be able to get it without a master plumber's license though.

+1
or so I've heard you need to get it at a plumbing supply house....



The only places that have it for sale are supply houses. Still doesn't work nearly as well as a cable machine.
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Posted: 7/26/2011 9:00:11 PM

Originally Posted By timothy585:
Originally Posted By Plumber576:
Originally Posted By Lamron:
The black bottle in the sealed bag one works well. Basically look for the one with the scariest warnings on it and buy that one. If it mentions possibly burning down the house and the fumes making you and your descendants for seven generations retarded, then its probably the good stuff. THEN, actually read and follow the directions!


That's ONE-SHOT.


I picked this up from Home Depot and it came in a plastic bag...about $8 bucks. It worked better than anything I have ever used. The clog is gone.

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv318/timothy585/DSCN0539.jpg


It's goddamn amazing shit is what that is.

Don't waste money on anything else.


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Originally Posted By turbofire383:
Hercules Clobber

Some nasty stuff. Probably won't be able to get it without a master plumber's license though.

+1
or so I've heard you need to get it at a plumbing supply house....



The only places that have it for sale are supply houses. Still doesn't work nearly as well as a cable machine.


I agree I would'nt use it in my pipes....Snake it....

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Drano Foaming Drain cleaner (I've had good luck with it.)



I HAVE ALSO PUT 1/2 CUP BAKING SODA DOWN THE DRAIN AND ABOUT 1-2 CUPS VINEGAR AND THAT WORKS GOOD TOO.

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I've used Instant PowerHair Clog Remover to good effect over the years.
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The black bottle in the sealed bag one works well. Basically look for the one with the scariest warnings on it and buy that one. If it mentions possibly burning down the house and the fumes making you and your descendants for seven generations retarded, then its probably the good stuff. THEN, actually read and follow the directions!


That's ONE-SHOT.


I picked this up from Home Depot and it came in a plastic bag...about $8 bucks. It worked better than anything I have ever used. The clog is gone.

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv318/timothy585/DSCN0539.jpg



This is what I was gonna recommend. Bad ass shit. We don't have HD around here, just the blue store. Tractor Supply had it 30 miles away until a tornado took it out. Crossing my fingers for no clogs.
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Posted: 7/26/2011 9:38:02 PM

Originally Posted By iiibdsiil:
Originally Posted By timothy585:
Originally Posted By Plumber576:
Originally Posted By Lamron:
The black bottle in the sealed bag one works well. Basically look for the one with the scariest warnings on it and buy that one. If it mentions possibly burning down the house and the fumes making you and your descendants for seven generations retarded, then its probably the good stuff. THEN, actually read and follow the directions!


That's ONE-SHOT.


I picked this up from Home Depot and it came in a plastic bag...about $8 bucks. It worked better than anything I have ever used. The clog is gone.

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv318/timothy585/DSCN0539.jpg



This is what I was gonna recommend. Bad ass shit. We don't have HD around here, just the blue store. Tractor Supply had it 30 miles away until a tornado took it out. Crossing my fingers for no clogs.

The stuff in the sealed plastic bag is what I use. Only use it if you have plastic pipes! Be very careful with it. I had just a few drops splash on my jeans when I was doing the final rinse and my jeans were ruined the next day!!!
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Posted: 7/26/2011 9:49:04 PM
I just did mine. Pulled out hair.


No drain.


Out of boredom I palmed / cuped my hand over the hole ( tub was full of water). And gave a few thrusts. And boy was I supprised when it started draining again !!!

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I've always used Red Devil Lye. Works great for me.


This. Or Thrift works well too.
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There is more hair and () stuff downstream.

Snake that shit out. No chemicals required.
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As a chemist, I think that just about the best thing you can use is good old Draino crystals.

The blue tinted, white beads with aluminum chips.

Dissolves in the water in the trap, creating a HOT and extremely caustic solution that churns as it reacts with the aluminum chips.

Just what the doctor ordered for most everything you will find in a shower or sink drain.

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Posted: 7/26/2011 10:12:04 PM
just had a bad clog not long ago , tried the Drano stuff a couple of times = nothing
tried backing soda& vinegar = nothing
went to home depot & bought Zep(commercial) Crystal Heat drain opener = worked damn good about $8.00 I believe.
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Posted: 7/26/2011 10:16:07 PM
Fuck chemicals

Fuck augers

Fuck those barbed white plastic pieces of shit

Fuck balloons.


Go to lowes/home depot/wal mart and get you one of these CO2 powered motherfuckers.

http://www.amazon.com/Kleer-Drain-100-Instant-Opener/dp/B000DZD0VI

pop in a cartridge, press it against the drain, and push. no more clog.

Thank me later.


And if you're thinking that it will blow your pipes up, fear not. If it didn't blow the pipes on the 60 year old shithole house with monkey fuck plumbing that we were renting, I think you'll be ok. We had a tub drain that was slow from day 1 when we moved in. From all the drain cleaners and gimmicks i tried it would have been easier and more effective to throw $100 down the drain (literally) NOTHING worked until I found the above mentioned wonder tool.
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Hercules Clobber

Some nasty stuff. Probably won't be able to get it without a master plumber's license though.

+1
or so I've heard you need to get it at a plumbing supply house....



The only places that have it for sale are supply houses. Still doesn't work nearly as well as a cable machine.


That was great stuff, but as far as I know they no longer make it.
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Liquid Fire. the bottle comes in a wrapper because if it spills it will burn you.
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If it's a hair clog, pour 2 gallons (enough to get well past the trap and soak the clog) of regular old bleach into the clog if there is no standing water and then leave it overnight. It sounds ridiculously simple, but you'll thank me in the morning. Also, if you have to escalate to manual force you won't create a toxic waste dump to have to work in.


ETA: Wifey has butt length hair and son has long hair too, we have to do this every couple of months.
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Liquid Fire. Usually available at Ace Hardware outlets.

READ AND FOLLOW DIRECTIONS TO THE LETTER!!!!!!


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