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Link Posted: 7/25/2011 3:24:44 PM EDT
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Did your son freak out?

If I saw that at 14....


This made me laugh...

When I was stationed on the east coast in 2005, the family and I go to Onslow beach on base for a couple of hours-late July IIRC.  We park the POV by SNCO parking (which is a LOT less crowded than the junior enlisted section-although there's more to see there) and start walking toward the South Tower (now gone) past the pier.  On the other side of the pier, people and families were getting fewer and fewer.  As we're walking, my then 14 year old says "hay dad, look at that".   I look over to my right where his beady little eyes are looking and there in all her glory was a drop-dead gorgeous dependent with a minimal black thong laying on her stomach, propped up on her elbows, with her beautiful boobs swinging and jiggling like jello, her skin as smooth as buttered copper.  DAMN!!!

Of course, since then, some fucking cow probably complained to MWR or otherwise made an issue out of it after too many thongs were seen, and thongs and toplessness I suppose are now forbidden from what I understand.  Too bad because Marines bring along some pretty choice cuts to that place.  Oh well, there's always other beaches....  

Link Posted: 7/25/2011 3:27:07 PM EDT
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Not to condone it or whatever but we were taught it's artful and beautiful, where as in America it's shameful.
I remember as a kid  watching orange juice commercials in Poland where there are naked women pouring juice on eachothers naked bodies.. Nobody was offended



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Hell this was years ago before Internet..

If you ever get a chance to go to just about any European country you'll see it everywhere.

Home living magazines: naked people
News papers: naked people
Tv shows: naked people
Infomercials: naked people

It's everywhere.. America has it's perks but if you want to visit a sensual country it's not here.

I understand that doesn't sit well with some people, but everyone has the same parts, we're all animals and there's nothing wrong with it.
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 3:30:20 PM EDT
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I was at a party at a buddies place last year. People hangin out, drinkin beer, having a good time. About 30 or 40 people total. Knew about half of them pretty well. Hot tub looked good, so me, my wife, and my 9 year old girl promptly stripped naked as the day we were born and got in. 3/4 of the people there looked at us like we were fucking aliens. People are weird.


And they were right to look at you like that.

TRG


There is nothing, what so ever, inherently sexual about naked people.

A family swimming in a hot tub is no more sexual tha a father giving a child a bath.

Attitudes like yours worry me much more than people who see nothing wrong with nudity.


As pointed out by others, it was not his house, his party, and he did not obtain consent before doing the full nudity routine in front of a mixed group of strangers.

I would have thrown his ass out.

There is a time and a place for everything.

It appears, from the reaction that he generated, that it was neither the time, nor the place.

TRG
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 3:30:32 PM EDT
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Stripping to get into a hot tub is not something I would think would bother most adults.


Hell around my place it's damn near required.

 


Even if TRG is over?

 
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 3:30:50 PM EDT
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Not to condone it or whatever but we were taught it's artful and beautiful, where as in America it's shameful.
I remember as a kid  watching orange juice commercials in Poland where there are naked women pouring juice on eachothers naked bodies.. Nobody was offended



Please PM youtube links!


Hell this was years ago before Internet..

If you ever get a chance to go to just about any European country you'll see it everywhere.

Home living magazines: naked people
News papers: naked people
Tv shows: naked people
Infomercials: naked people

It's everywhere.. America has it's perks but if you want to visit a sensual country it's not here.

I understand that doesn't sit well with some people, but everyone has the same parts, we're all animals and there's nothing wrong with it.


I remember an ad for jeans in the Frankfurt airport that had a topless chick on it that was 20' tall.  No heads exploded.
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 3:31:56 PM EDT
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I don't have a problem with nudity, There are just very few people who look good naked(I'm one of the ones who doesn't.).
 
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 3:33:41 PM EDT
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Stripping to get into a hot tub is not something I would think would bother most adults.

Hell around my place it's damn near required.
 

Even if TRG is over?  


She would never invite me.

TRG
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 3:39:04 PM EDT
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Not to condone it or whatever but we were taught it's artful and beautiful, where as in America it's shameful.
I remember as a kid  watching orange juice commercials in Poland where there are naked women pouring juice on eachothers naked bodies.. Nobody was offended



Please PM youtube links!


Hell this was years ago before Internet..

If you ever get a chance to go to just about any European country you'll see it everywhere.

Home living magazines: naked people
News papers: naked people
Tv shows: naked people
Infomercials: naked people

It's everywhere.. America has it's perks but if you want to visit a sensual country it's not here.

I understand that doesn't sit well with some people, but everyone has the same parts, we're all animals and there's nothing wrong with it.


I remember an ad for jeans in the Frankfurt airport that had a topless chick on it that was 20' tall.  No heads exploded.


Germans have, shall we say, a rather different outlook on such things.  Works for them.

Link Posted: 7/25/2011 3:40:01 PM EDT
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Chris Hansen is so in on 4!
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 3:40:22 PM EDT
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14 year old boy shows his nipples at the beach = Huh?  Was I supposed to notice something?

14 year old girl shows her nipples at the beach = OMG!  Child abuse!

Mother breastfeeds in public, under a blanket = HOLY SHIT, THAT'S DISGUSTING!  GO FEED YOUR KID IN THE BATHROOM, EVEN THOUGH IF YOU ASKED ME TO EAT IN THE BATHROOM I'D SAY THAT'S GROSS, TOO!



Seriously, they're just boobs.  Some people act like they've never seen a nice pair of hooters before.


I may have seen them before, but that doesn't mean I'm tired of seeing them.
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 3:41:13 PM EDT
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It is inappropriate to let your 14 year old daughter walk around topless. There is no reason for a mother to think that is OK.
There are actually places in this world where the human  body is not in itself considered to be profane.

Crazy, I know.
It's not a matter of it being profane, it's a matter of not letting every sicko in NY see your 14 year old daughter's tits.
Probably be a better idea to avoid bringing your 14 y.o. daughter TO the sickos.

 
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 3:45:50 PM EDT
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Did your son freak out?

If I saw that at 14....


I wouldn't have needed the sears catalog for a month


OKay, now that was funny.  Even more funny because all us guys above a certain age can relate.
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 4:17:24 PM EDT
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I was at a party at a buddies place last year. People hangin out, drinkin beer, having a good time. About 30 or 40 people total. Knew about half of them pretty well. Hot tub looked good, so me, my wife, and my 9 year old girl promptly stripped naked as the day we were born and got in. 3/4 of the people there looked at us like we were fucking aliens. People are weird.


And they were right to look at you like that.

TRG


There is nothing, what so ever, inherently sexual about naked people.

A family swimming in a hot tub is no more sexual tha a father giving a child a bath.

Attitudes like yours worry me much more than people who see nothing wrong with nudity.


I think the point was not that a family got naked, but decided to get naked in a middle of a party....it may be considered a bit of a social fauxs pas.   Think of the bean dip man!  THink fo the bean dip!
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 4:23:09 PM EDT
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<meta charset="utf-8"></meta>There are actually places in this world where the human body is not in itself considered to be profane.



Mine's a freakin' work of art. Well, art is subjective...
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 4:25:23 PM EDT
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NVM
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 4:29:03 PM EDT
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<meta charset="utf-8"></meta>There are actually places in this world where the human body is not in itself considered to be profane.



Mine's a freakin' work of art. Well, art is subjective...


Me too, modern art.

 
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 4:32:50 PM EDT
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It is inappropriate to let your 14 year old daughter walk around topless. There is no reason for a mother to think that is OK.

There are actually places in this world where the human  body is not in itself considered to be profane.

Crazy, I know.


It's not a matter of it being profane, it's a matter of not letting every sicko in NY see your 14 year old daughter's tits.

Who cares, they're just tits, half the world's population have them.  




You disagree?


So are we talking about nipples or actual tits?

BigDozer66


Either way, he forgot the population that has moobs.  



I was at the beach tin RI he other day, and I started wondering about moobs and boobs.  I saw a dude with big ol' c cups walking around topless, and a girl with ABSOULTELY NOTHING up top walking around with a bikini top on. Why can he display his but she would go to jail if she showed hers?  Because he has a penis and she doesn't? WTF sense does that make? Honestly, there was nothing about his moobs that was different than a girl's boobs.

If they were hairy then yes there was...  


They were hairless, luscious ripe tits.  If you saw them in isolation, you would have gotten a stiffy. So, where's the logic?
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 4:40:27 PM EDT
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It is inappropriate to let your 14 year old daughter walk around topless. There is no reason for a mother to think that is OK.


He said the seemed French, other countries are not so hung up on the naked body as Americans, we are a prudish lot.


THIS! A lot of the rest of the world doesn't have as much starch in their undies as we do
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 4:42:00 PM EDT
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its only child porn if its sexual in nature.  
I wouldn't chance it against an overzealous prosecutor and 12 Øbama voters.
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 5:09:06 PM EDT
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we have a prosecutorial big game hunt nationwide.  everyone is "in season."  if you give a small time prosecutor enough ammunitino to shoot at you, don't come back here and complain "hey guys, you said there was nothing wrong wtih it!"

You felt it was so inappropriate you came on here to ask about it.

so some questions -
if you felt it was inappropriate, why did you hit the record button?
why did you view it and show it to others?
why did you keep it on the tape to be viewed in court today?
why didn't you complain to the lifeguard/local law enforcement at the time?

See, you have begun the groundwork for your own conviction.  
No one here will agree with me.  I practiced law for 8 years before going back on active duty.  I'll practice again when I am done here.....But I know about these situations and how they can screw up lives.
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 5:14:15 PM EDT
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It is inappropriate to let your 14 year old daughter walk around topless. There is no reason for a mother to think that is OK.


Only here.  It's common for women to be topless in Europe.



 
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 5:22:29 PM EDT
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When we were 8, my neighbor and I were playing in a kiddie pool.  Neither of us had tops on.   Some prude called the cops and told them "There's a girl playing topless in the front yard of my neighbor's house."   I can't remember EVER seeing that many cop cars before or since.  



Her tits were really spectacular when she was 17...
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 6:02:05 PM EDT
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I'd much rather our civilization be one tolerates nudity than be of the kind that exists in the middle east.
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 6:04:48 PM EDT
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It is inappropriate to let your 14 year old daughter walk around topless. There is no reason for a mother to think that is OK.


In europe it isn't considered a big deal.  By anyone.
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 6:06:45 PM EDT
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I just came in here to LOL at the post/page view ratio.
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 6:07:29 PM EDT
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I notice a lot lately that the line between nudity and pornography has been all but lost.


They are actually totally different.
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 6:13:13 PM EDT
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It is inappropriate to let your 14 year old daughter walk around topless. There is no reason for a mother to think that is OK.


Grow up.
It's a naked body. So fucking what.
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 6:18:28 PM EDT
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its only child porn if its sexual in nature.  


Yep. That's why there are Hollywood movies with under aged actresses' breasts visible...Not for prurient purposes.



 
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 6:20:35 PM EDT
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It is inappropriate to let your 14 year old daughter walk around topless. There is no reason for a mother to think that is OK.


Why is it only in America that tits are a big fuckin deal.  The rest of the world really could give a shit less.  Just sayin........
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 6:23:23 PM EDT
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I don't have a problem with nudity, There are just very few people who look good naked(I'm one of the ones who doesn't.).  


+1 At any age. The right shoes makes all the difference!
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 6:23:23 PM EDT
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It is inappropriate to let your 14 year old daughter walk around topless. There is no reason for a mother to think that is OK.




 
Unless you don't live in an assbackwards puritan society that produces the worst predators on earth...
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 6:23:39 PM EDT
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I was at a party at a buddies place last year. People hangin out, drinkin beer, having a good time. About 30 or 40 people total. Knew about half of them pretty well. Hot tub looked good, so me, my wife, and my 9 year old girl promptly stripped naked as the day we were born and got in. 3/4 of the people there looked at us like we were fucking aliens. People are weird.


And they were right to look at you like that.

TRG


There is nothing, what so ever, inherently sexual about naked people.

A family swimming in a hot tub is no more sexual tha a father giving a child a bath.

Attitudes like yours worry me much more than people who see nothing wrong with nudity.


So when you look at a naked woman you don't know you're not sexually aroused?
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 6:24:59 PM EDT
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It is inappropriate to let your 14 year old daughter walk around topless. There is no reason for a mother to think that is OK.

This.

Unless you're not an uptight, scared-shitless American.


Maybe we can be more enlightened like the Europeans about gun laws also


How about they need our less restrictive gun laws and we need their less restrictive boob laws. Then everyone can have a bit more liberty.



But they're enlightened we're not.
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 6:26:44 PM EDT
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It is inappropriate to let your 14 year old daughter walk around topless. There is no reason for a mother to think that is OK.



Not in most other parts of the world. America has a healthy case of whiny bitch syndrome when it comes to nekkidness.



A European may not have a perfect grasp on American cultural norms, hence the mother may not see it as a big deal. I went to "Little Beach" on Maui once, have to say it's quite liberating once you realize no one around you gives a shit





 
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 6:27:03 PM EDT
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I was at a nice hotel in Cancun one time and a couple French 16 year old twins were topless in the pool about 5 feet away from me (dear lord please forgive me) these two girls were smokin hot.......it was one of the hardest things I've ever had to not look at
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 6:28:05 PM EDT
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I may be a repressed American, but an underage girl walking around topless is wrong.

I know, I know - nudity isn't sexual and all that, yet there are plenty of comments to the effect "If *I* were a 14 year old boy, I wouldn't need the Sears lingerie catalog for a week!"

So what is it? Harmless nudity or sexual undercurrents? I can tell you one thing: As the father of a girl, there is no way you're going to convince me that I'm just a hick American that is too prudish and should be more "worldly". She's going to be properly dressed, in this country or any other, and while she may not like it I will fight her tooth and nail to keep it that way. All you other guys that are all hunky-dory about 14 year old girls running around topless can send your daughters out with their boobs hanging out for all I care.



I don't think anyone is necessarily advocating it.  Rather they're simply pointing out that in many other cultures it's commonplace.


If you were raised in one of those cultures, you would be perfectly OK with it.  Both for yourself and as a parent.


In our culture today it's not necessarily appropriate, no arguing that.  But nudity is not inherently morally wrong in and of itself.


This I agree with. Call me uptight, prudish whatever. If I saw an attractive woman in public, topless, I would be aroused. Sorry its the truth. I think most guys here would be the same.

Link Posted: 7/25/2011 6:29:37 PM EDT
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Not to condone it or whatever but we were taught it's artful and beautiful, where as in America it's shameful.
I remember as a kid  watching orange juice commercials in Poland where there are naked women pouring juice on eachothers naked bodies.. Nobody was offended



Please PM youtube links!



You sound like you enjoy "art"
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 6:30:13 PM EDT
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If I'd taken a video of my son on the beach, and this girl walked into the background of the photo, I'd be a felon and could go to jail for years.


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I was at a party at a buddies place last year. People hangin out, drinkin beer, having a good time. About 30 or 40 people total. Knew about half of them pretty well. Hot tub looked good, so me, my wife, and my 9 year old girl promptly stripped naked as the day we were born and got in. 3/4 of the people there looked at us like we were fucking aliens. People are weird.


And they were right to look at you like that.

TRG


There is nothing, what so ever, inherently sexual about naked people.

A family swimming in a hot tub is no more sexual tha a father giving a child a bath.

Attitudes like yours worry me much more than people who see nothing wrong with nudity.


So when you look at a naked woman you don't know you're not sexually aroused?


Maybe I'm frigid, it takes more than a nude person to sexually arouse me. There needs to be some sort of erotic catalyst as well.

Naked people are not sexy, naked people doing sexy things are. A 14 year old, topless at a beach, is not sexy.
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 6:31:53 PM EDT
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This.  Nude photos of underaged persons are not child pornography per se.
 


If they were I'd be in trouble. What parent doesn't have pics of their toddler naked in a bathtub?

Nudity does not equal pron.



Well I had a friend that was investigated because he had film developed at Walmart. That film had a couple of frames with young boys in their underwear playing in a kiddie pool.
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 6:32:43 PM EDT
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I was at a party at a buddies place last year. People hangin out, drinkin beer, having a good time. About 30 or 40 people total. Knew about half of them pretty well. Hot tub looked good, so me, my wife, and my 9 year old girl promptly stripped naked as the day we were born and got in. 3/4 of the people there looked at us like we were fucking aliens. People are weird.


And they were right to look at you like that.

TRG


There is nothing, what so ever, inherently sexual about naked people.

A family swimming in a hot tub is no more sexual tha a father giving a child a bath.

Attitudes like yours worry me much more than people who see nothing wrong with nudity.



If you read on, it's not a nudity issue.  It's a respecting the social mores of the people hosting the party, issue.


If the host of a party I'm invited asks me to refrain from a particular activity, I will, or I'll leave.

Stripping to get into a hot tub is not something I would think would bother most adults.


Ewww think of all the dingle berries floating around
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 6:37:27 PM EDT
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It is inappropriate to let your 14 year old daughter walk around topless. There is no reason for a mother to think that is OK.


In europe it isn't considered a big deal.  By anyone.


But guns are. Just because Europe thinks something is the cat's meow does that mean the United States should follow suite

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I was at a party at a buddies place last year. People hangin out, drinkin beer, having a good time. About 30 or 40 people total. Knew about half of them pretty well. Hot tub looked good, so me, my wife, and my 9 year old girl promptly stripped naked as the day we were born and got in. 3/4 of the people there looked at us like we were fucking aliens. People are weird.


And they were right to look at you like that.

TRG


There is nothing, what so ever, inherently sexual about naked people.

A family swimming in a hot tub is no more sexual tha a father giving a child a bath.

Attitudes like yours worry me much more than people who see nothing wrong with nudity.


So when you look at a naked woman you don't know you're not sexually aroused?


Maybe I'm frigid, it takes more than a nude person to sexually arouse me. There needs to be some sort of erotic catalyst as well.

Naked people are not sexy, naked people doing sexy things are. A 14 year old, topless at a beach, is not sexy.


Are you male or female?
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 6:40:56 PM EDT
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It is inappropriate to let your 14 year old daughter walk around topless. There is no reason for a mother to think that is OK.


Was in Miami on vacation. Very nice dutch people were beside us. Both of the young ladies were topless.

11 years and probably 20 year old.





 
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 6:42:27 PM EDT
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Sorry but the Americans are the most prudish people next to the Muslims.


We are too prudish to be British.
Link Posted: 7/25/2011 6:45:11 PM EDT
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its only child porn if its sexual in nature.  


If the OP shows the vid of his cute kid to his neighbor and neighbor sees the topless 14 year old girl and gets a boner, does it become sexual in nature? Right or wrong I'll bet an ambitious prosecutor would think so and try it. Lawyer bills would be enough to ruin a person's life, even if found not guilty.
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It is inappropriate to let your 14 year old daughter walk around topless. There is no reason for a mother to think that is OK.

There are actually places in this world where the human  body is not in itself considered to be profane.

Crazy, I know.

It's not a matter of it being profane, it's a matter of not letting every sicko in NY see your 14 year old daughter's tits.

What about her hands.  Is that crazy weird?  Sick?  What about her hair?  In Jordan, Oman, or Iran, you wear a head scarf.  It's a matter of not letting every sicko around see your wife or daughter's hair.

Legs?  Are those to be hidden from public view?  Myself I find a shapely pair of women's legs to be incredibly sexy.  And in ultra-conservative societies (the mid-east), by law  a woman cannot show her legs in public. It's a matter of not letting every sicko around see your wife or daughter's legs.

Grow up.

Ideas like this are why I feel women should either be allowed to be topless in public or men should not. Women get just as turned on by the sight of the right mans chest as men do by a nice set of breasts. Men go outside shirtless because it tends to be more comfortable in certain weather, not to turn women on. Women OTOH are stuck with a shirt and(usually) a bra. They don't get to cool off like we do.

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