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Tyler Farrar won today's stage. An American victory on the 4th!
No time changes, Cadel Evans stays in 3rd, Frank Schleck stays in 7th, Andy Schleck moves to 8th, Contador moves to 69th. Contador is still 1:42 back. Hushovd did the lead out for Farrar allowing Farrar to out sprint Cavendish by a good 10 feet. HTC seems to be having some problems getting organized when they need to. |
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I used to love le tour. Now I really can't give a fuck. contador can eat a dick. Lance Armstrong is the one that ruined it for me. That lying egotistical f*&k. Him (and guys like him) have ruined the sport IMO. Bring back the days of Greg LeMond, and others of that era and I would watch again. Really Greg Lemond??? |
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I used to love le tour. Now I really can't give a fuck. contador can eat a dick. Lance Armstrong is the one that ruined it for me. That lying egotistical f*&k. Him (and guys like him) have ruined the sport IMO. Bring back the days of Greg LeMond, and others of that era and I would watch again. Really Greg Lemond??? whiniest bitch in cycling. and thats saying something |
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I had the chance to see the Coors Classic roll by in 1986 –– Helicopters and all.
And a short course Criterion later that night. When I pointed out Hinualt to my friends during warm ups, he heard his name, looked up, and waved to us |
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I second the ABC ( Anyone but Contador ) comment. I hate that scumbag and so long as he loses I will consider it a great Tour De France.
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I had the chance to see the Coors Classic roll by in 1986 –– Helicopters and all. And a short course Criterion later that night. When I pointed out Hinualt to my friends during warm ups, he heard his name, looked up, and waved to us Cool. Hinault was a beast. Yeah, merckx was the greatest. but hinault was the 2nd best of all time. Nobody comes close to those two. |
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Stage 4 results.
Cadel Evans won the stage, beating Alberto Cantador at the line. No overall changes timewise but GC rankings changed a bit. Another really good race today. Standings: 1. Hushovd, Thor 00:00 2. Evans, Cadel +00:01 3 Schleck, Frank +00:04 4. Millar, David +00:08 5. Kloden, Andreas +00:1046 6. Wiggins, Bradley +00:10 7. Thomas, Geraint +00:12 8. Hagen, Edvald +00:12 9 Schleck, Andy +00:12 10. Fuglsang, Jakob +00:12 13. Van Garderen USA +00:13 14. Horner, Chris USA +00:18 15. Leipheimer, Levi USA +00:18 41. Contador, Alberto +01:42 45. Danielson, Tom USA +01:57 46. Vande Velde, C. USA +01:57 50. Hincapie, George USA +02:10 |
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Well whoever you are rooting for, make sure you pronounce it "Fronce".
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Good finish, but I still don't know why Cancellara did a pull at the front of the peloton at 4km then peeled off the back and cruised in.
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I am a huge TdF fan...been watching since I was a wee lass growing up in Bavaria many years ago.
But, for some reason, this is the first year that I can truly NOT give a flying fuck about the race. Vanilla riders, doping, etc have really taken the luster out of the spectacle of the TdF, so much so that I'd rather watch the women's FIFA championship. |
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I second the ABC ( Anyone but Contador ) comment. I hate that scumbag and so long as he loses I will consider it a great Tour De France. I was OK with him until I saw him throw down his $8000 S-Works. |
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I met Greg LeMond back in '89 @ the Athens Criterium. Back in the day I was into teh racing. Every year the RAAM goes right through A-town. Was that the Pepsi Twilight? Awesome race! been a few times, wasn't into participating when I was there. I went just to check out the uga hotties. |
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I had the chance to see the Coors Classic roll by in 1986 –– Helicopters and all. And a short course Criterion later that night. When I pointed out Hinualt to my friends during warm ups, he heard his name, looked up, and waved to us Cool. Hinault was a beast. Yeah, merckx was the greatest. but hinault was the 2nd best of all time. Nobody comes close to those two. Ummmm.. Indurain 5XTDF GC |
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I used to love le tour. Now I really can't give a fuck. contador can eat a dick. Yep, I used to race and on rainy days I pop in one of the Tour DVDs I have and watch stages to pass the time. I didn't even realize the tour had started... Greg lemond is whiny but he probably has reason. Armstrong has been fucking with him for a long time, especially with his bikes as they were brith made by trek... But it's a sport with more drama then day time tv.... Lost interest when I hung up my bike. |
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Is this the TdF or NASCAR? I can't remember seeing so many crashes. I was disappointed to see Horner crash out yesterday. It was a little scary seeing him after the race, completely clueless as to what had happened. He kept asking "Did I finish?" as they loaded him into the ambulance.
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Okay, here's an update after stage 8.
As mentioned above there have been a large number of crashes in the last couple of stages. Lots of people on the ground. Bradley Wiggins is out with a broken collar bone, as is Janez Brajkovic. Chris Horner fell yesterday and was obviously heavily concussed after ending up lying in the ditch after the second big crash on yesterday's stage. He was basically towed to the finish by the doctor's car. They showed a clip of him being lead from the team bus to the ambulance. As he was being placed on the gurney he could be heard asking if he'd finished the stage and inquiring about his injuries. Here's the link to the official Tour website. Cantador has made zero progress and has been down at least three times now. He is still 1:42 back. He really needed to attack today but had Andy Schleck on his wheel all day. In a post race interview Andy said he felt really good, made a comment about the "little" hill at the end and how much he's looking forward to the real mountain stages ahead. Eight rated climbs on tomorrow's stage! |
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That doesn't really qualify as a mountain stage. Tuesday is when it starts.
Actually Wednesday. There is a rest day tomorrow. |
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Do we have a Team ARFCOM Fantasy team going on the Cycling Challenge?
I have been playing and keep forgetting to check and see if ARFCOM has a team going! I am in 26xx place by myself, but only 400+ ponits behind, so if we had a team to pool the resources I would be in! BigDozer66 |
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I'm glad Contador is already in the hole and Shleck is only :06 off the lead. Much as it hurts me to root against the Danish team, I really want Contador to lose - ideally in some ironic way. While Saxo Bank might be a Danish company, the team is almost all Spaniards, so it's okay to hate them. Wouldn't it be wonderful if Contador had a mechanical on one of the climbs and got dropped? Yes! It would be perfect if he was in yellow, and had a mechanical on the day before Paris - and Andy took (and kept) the yellow as a result. Andy's ITT game will need to be improved for that scenario. He'll need some good time on Evans too. The ITT as the second to last stage keeps things interesting. Schleck is only 4" back while Contador is 1'42" back. That's a lot of time to make up. The large time gap is going to give Schleck a little bit of cushion for the ITT. Of course after only 2 stages any wild speculation is exactly that. Umm, I was responding to DK's scenario not what has happened. The team car will be right there with the last rider on the ITT (that's the second to last stage) for a quick bike change. |
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Vino crashed out with a broken ankle; Van Den Broeck crashed out with a broken collarbone.
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Vino crashed out with a broken ankle; Van Den Broeck crashed out with a broken collarbone. Way to many serious crashes today! Whoever was driving the "TV" car had better leave the country quickly! I think I lost one of my Fantasy Team riders today but I will have to wait to verify it. BigDozer66 |
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They need to hide the needle marks better, but other than that they seem to be doing a good job.
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Train for a lifetime and then get sideswiped by a car while racing. Hell of a hit!
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More controversial was a crash in the breakaway group of five just 36km from the finish. As the riders sped down a descent, a car from French TV attempted to pass them going partly down the grass verge on the left-hand side of the road. The car driver swerved back into the road and the riders to avoid a roadside tree, hitting Team Sky's Juan Antonio Flecha and sending him cartwheeling down the road. The Spaniard clipped Vacansoleil-DCM's Johnny Hoogerland, who was sent somersaulting onto a barbed wire fence on the other side of the road. Thankfully, both riders were able to continue, although both were bloodied, Hoogerland suffering what appeared to be deep wounds to his lower legs. The Dutchman received some compensation at the finish in the shape of the King of the Mountains jersey, having led over four of the day's eight categorised climbs. "We can be happy that we're alive. It's horrible," said Hoogerland. "I can blame everyone but I don't think anyone does this sort of thing on purpose. I think the people in the car will have a very big guilty feeling and they will surely apologize to me and Flecha...I have three cuts that are about seven centimetres long and quite deep too. I'll go to the hospital now and I think I'll need about 30 stitches at least. "I did what felt like a few somersaults. I don't know where the car came from. Before I knew it, Flecha was on the ground and there was nothing I could do. I landed on the fence and I looked at my legs and thought, ‘Is this what cycling is about?' I have the polka-dot jersey but I'm going to spend the rest day in a lot of pain." |
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Quoted: More controversial was a crash in the breakaway group of five just 36km from the finish. As the riders sped down a descent, a car from French TV attempted to pass them going partly down the grass verge on the left-hand side of the road. The car driver swerved back into the road and the riders to avoid a roadside tree, hitting Team Sky's Juan Antonio Flecha and sending him cartwheeling down the road. The Spaniard clipped Vacansoleil-DCM's Johnny Hoogerland, who was sent somersaulting onto a barbed wire fence on the other side of the road. Thankfully, both riders were able to continue, although both were bloodied, Hoogerland suffering what appeared to be deep wounds to his lower legs. The Dutchman received some compensation at the finish in the shape of the King of the Mountains jersey, having led over four of the day's eight categorised climbs. "We can be happy that we're alive. It's horrible," said Hoogerland. "I can blame everyone but I don't think anyone does this sort of thing on purpose. I think the people in the car will have a very big guilty feeling and they will surely apologize to me and Flecha...I have three cuts that are about seven centimetres long and quite deep too. I'll go to the hospital now and I think I'll need about 30 stitches at least. "I did what felt like a few somersaults. I don't know where the car came from. Before I knew it, Flecha was on the ground and there was nothing I could do. I landed on the fence and I looked at my legs and thought, ‘Is this what cycling is about?' I have the polka-dot jersey but I'm going to spend the rest day in a lot of pain." Hoogerland and Flecha really took a beating in that f-up. Thank God the officials' car didn't hit Flecha while he was on the deck. Btw, it seems as if the Karpets/ Contador bump is a non-issue. |
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Wow, what a day. Again more crashes. In one big crash, Vinkourov is out with a possible broken pelvis, elbow and thigh, Van Den Broeck is out with a broken shoulder blade, Zabriske with a broken wrist and Willems with a broken collarbone. Contador fell again after hitting Karpets saddle with his handlebar. Then as mentioned above the Euro Media car hit Flecha in the lead breakaway, who hit Hoogerman and catapulted him into a barbed wire fence. Thomas Voeckler took the win and the yellow jersey as a result of the big lead the breakaway got as a result of the crash and the subsequent truce called by the peloton.
So here are the standings. Monday is the first rest day.
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Glad I was not riding that stage! This year has more crashes than most in the past. Hopefully it will settle down in the higher mountains.
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So the question is now if the rest of the GC guys left can get 2 1/2 minutes back from Voekler
Lots of guya sitting there that will attack each day –– her can't just shadow the Schlecks |
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I had the chance to see the Coors Classic roll by in 1986 –– Helicopters and all. And a short course Criterion later that night. When I pointed out Hinualt to my friends during warm ups, he heard his name, looked up, and waved to us I got a ride on one of the Motorcycles for the crit around Lake Merrit the same year, man my pops use to get some great corporate perks. |
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So the question is now if the rest of the GC guys left can get 2 1/2 minutes back from Voekler Easily. They will blow him out of the top five on the first mountain stage. They wouldn't have let Voekler go in the breakaway if they were worried about him. didn't he have a 30 minute GC lead over the eventual winner one year? |
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I met Greg LeMond back in '89 @ the Athens Criterium. Back in the day I was into teh racing. Every year the RAAM goes right through A-town. Was that the Pepsi Twilight? Awesome race! been a few times, wasn't into participating when I was there. I went just to check out the uga hotties. Athens, OH, not GA. They used to do a Criterium. One year they did a road race. Guys were changing rear wheels to get lower gearing. |
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So the question is now if the rest of the GC guys left can get 2 1/2 minutes back from Voekler Easily. They will blow him out of the top five on the first mountain stage. They wouldn't have let Voekler go in the breakaway if they were worried about him. didn't he have a 30 minute GC lead over the eventual winner one year? I remember hikm taking the Yellow Jersey deep into the mountains one year before Armstrong ran him down finaly. Most of the commentators seem to think the GC riders will have no trouble reeling him in. When I posted that, I didn't recall if he was good in the mountians, but I remember Armstrong chasing him down several days. |
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So the question is now if the rest of the GC guys left can get 2 1/2 minutes back from Voekler Easily. They will blow him out of the top five on the first mountain stage. They wouldn't have let Voekler go in the breakaway if they were worried about him. didn't he have a 30 minute GC lead over the eventual winner one year? I remember hikm taking the Yellow Jersey deep into the mountains one year before Armstrong ran him down finaly. Most of the commentators seem to think the GC riders will have no trouble reeling him in. When I posted that, I didn't recall if he was good in the mountians, but I remember Armstrong chasing him down several days. I remember watch Voekler turn himself inside out to keep that jersey in the mountains. I seem to recall he kept it a day ;onger than the commentators thought he would. |
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So the question is now if the rest of the GC guys left can get 2 1/2 minutes back from Voekler Easily. They will blow him out of the top five on the first mountain stage. They wouldn't have let Voekler go in the breakaway if they were worried about him. didn't he have a 30 minute GC lead over the eventual winner one year? I remember hikm taking the Yellow Jersey deep into the mountains one year before Armstrong ran him down finaly. Most of the commentators seem to think the GC riders will have no trouble reeling him in. When I posted that, I didn't recall if he was good in the mountians, but I remember Armstrong chasing him down several days. I remember watch Voekler turn himself inside out to keep that jersey in the mountains. I seem to recall he kept it a day ;onger than the commentators thought he would. IIRC he had a 14 minute (or so) lead and it took Lance 10 days to get it back. I also remember Lance saying that it made it easier on him and the team if he was not in Yellow so he might have waited a little longer before claiming "The Maillot Jaune"! Just like NASCAR racing, it doesn't matter who leads the most laps it is just who is leading on the last one. BigDozer66 |
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Okay here's the stage 10 results. Whole lot less drama than the first week. Greipel beat Cavendish in the finish sprint by almost a full wheel.
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Not a cyclist, but I did get to watch the finish of a single stage in the Tour of California last year in person.
It's been a very rainy Tour this year, from what I've been able to catch on Versus. How in hell are these guys barreling down slopes at 40mph in the rain? Those skinny tires don't look like they could maintain grip on anything wet. PS not that I'm going to be the next Lance Armstrong or anything, but I'm also looking at getting a Specialized Roubaix as my first "real" roadbike since 1990. Need to do some test rides down at the LBS. Too bad I can't figure out all the crazy options (SRAM, Rival, etc.). |
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Okay, here's stage 11 results. Number 18 for Cavendish! He is fast.
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Now the fun starts. The Tourmalet will weed out the weenies. Profile for stage 12: Quick, ride up this at 20 mph on your bicycle! That's looking down at the ascent on the Tourmalet. |
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