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Posted: 6/14/2011 3:41:43 PM EST
They were all over the place in the mid 90's. Now, I need one. I don't care if it is a folder or dagger. I haven't seen them at shows in some time and was hoping someone here may have experience with them.

I don't want one that is too pricey either. Zytel, ABS, glock-plastic, or whatever else.
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Posted: 6/14/2011 3:47:03 PM EST
I've got a plastic Cold Steel karambit. Cold Steel makes quite a few different models of plastic knife. I think they call it the Nightshade series.
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I used to have a 7 inch long Obsidian shank I would take into places that had metal detectors. That fucking thing was sharp as all fuck. I lost it last time I moved.
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Posted: 6/14/2011 3:47:54 PM EST
Cold Steal (intentional) makes quite a selection of cheap plastic crap knives. If you want a non-metallic worth a shit you will need to shell out for a ceramic knife. Keep in mind in some states it is illegal to possess non-metallic knives even as a "peace officer" without a few hoops.
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Posted: 6/14/2011 3:48:38 PM EST
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Like this?


Go here: CIA Defense Tool set

Edit - they carry the Cold Steel FGX line as well...


http://budk.com/Knives/Cold-Steel-FGX-Karambit-Knife?
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Wow. $13 for that set is not bad.

Thanks for the link.
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My local grocery store has a hellish deal on 50 or 100 packs.

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Posted: 6/14/2011 3:57:08 PM EST
That is the kind of stuff I was looking for. Anyone own a folder out of any of these materials?
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I had a blackie Collins assisted opening zytex folder, it melted in my truck after I spilled some carb cleaner on it, it was useless even for stabbing (about the only thing you can do with a plastic knife.) why not just get a normal knife or are you trying to carry where you are not allowed too?
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I had a cavarms "letter opener" not sure where it is now. Um I think kershaw makes a bunch ceramic knives, I don't know much about them

AG russell might have a selection of ceramic knives, not sure
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Originally Posted By para_frame:
I had a blackie Collins assisted opening zytex folder, it melted in my truck after I spilled some carb cleaner on it, it was useless even for stabbing (about the only thing you can do with a plastic knife.) why not just get a normal knife or are you trying to carry where you are not allowed too?


Not illegal, but metal detectors get in the way. If I had one of those Glock 7, I would be set!
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Posted: 6/14/2011 4:12:45 PM EST

Originally Posted By RDP:
Originally Posted By para_frame:
I had a blackie Collins assisted opening zytex folder, it melted in my truck after I spilled some carb cleaner on it, it was useless even for stabbing (about the only thing you can do with a plastic knife.) why not just get a normal knife or are you trying to carry where you are not allowed too?


Not illegal, but metal detectors get in the way. If I had one of those Glock 7, I would be set!

Are you kidding? Those things cost more than you make in a month.
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Posted: 6/14/2011 4:14:57 PM EST
Originally Posted By kissfan:

Originally Posted By RDP:
Originally Posted By para_frame:
I had a blackie Collins assisted opening zytex folder, it melted in my truck after I spilled some carb cleaner on it, it was useless even for stabbing (about the only thing you can do with a plastic knife.) why not just get a normal knife or are you trying to carry where you are not allowed too?


Not illegal, but metal detectors get in the way. If I had one of those Glock 7, I would be set!

Are you kidding? Those things cost more than you make in a month.


you'd be surprised how much he makes a month.
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Posted: 6/14/2011 4:15:27 PM EST
Ive read that a few companies put a chunk of metal in their "plastic" knives so people cant sneak them through metal detectors. Liability reasons and all that jazz.
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Posted: 6/14/2011 4:16:57 PM EST
I will check it prior to use. I know where some metal detectors are located.
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Posted: 6/14/2011 4:23:41 PM EST
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I will check it prior to use. I know where some metal detectors are located.


Why not just get something that conceals behind your belt buckle? Everytime I go through the metal detector at our courthouse I set it off. I just shrug to the guard and say "probably my belt buckle" raise my shirt and show him, then he lets me pass though.

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Posted: 6/14/2011 4:36:11 PM EST
Would a ceramic-bladed Boker or Hk knife set-off a metal detector?
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Posted: 6/14/2011 4:41:49 PM EST
Originally Posted By oldgunner:
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I will check it prior to use. I know where some metal detectors are located.


Why not just get something that conceals behind your belt buckle? Everytime I go through the metal detector at our courthouse I set it off. I just shrug to the guard and say "probably my belt buckle" raise my shirt and show him, then he lets me pass though.



They make you take off your belt here, so that wouldn't work.

Some places are very paranoid and will thoroughly check any metal alerts.
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Originally Posted By armedbutnotdangerous:
http://www.eaprotection.com/letter-opener-knife.aspx


Those are cheap.... may be worth experimenting.
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Posted: 6/14/2011 4:46:53 PM EST
Originally Posted By victorgonzales:
I used to have a 7 inch long Obsidian shank I would take into places that had metal detectors. That fucking thing was sharp as all fuck. I lost it last time I moved.


I carry the exact kind of weapon when a metal detector is present VERY sharp and deadly..

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Posted: 6/14/2011 4:54:58 PM EST

Originally Posted By oldgunner:
Ive read that a few companies put a chunk of metal in their "plastic" knives so people cant sneak them through metal detectors. Liability reasons and all that jazz.

Yes, my ceramic kitchen knife sets off my Garrett metal detector. IIRC, its not a chunk of metal though, its some sort of metallic compound added to the ceramic.
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Posted: 6/14/2011 5:03:04 PM EST
Originally Posted By Shadeaux:
Originally Posted By victorgonzales:
I used to have a 7 inch long Obsidian shank I would take into places that had metal detectors. That fucking thing was sharp as all fuck. I lost it last time I moved.


I carry the exact kind of weapon when a metal detector is present VERY sharp and deadly..



Do you have a pic?

Most of the ones I located use deer antlers for a handle.
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My local grocery store has a hellish deal on 50 or 100 packs.

http://www.webstaurantstore.com/images/user-submit/130AHKCL_-NVBCQH_XLG.jpg


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Posted: 6/14/2011 5:08:46 PM EST
Had a cold steel zytel tanto, not sure what happened to it over the years. It's probably in a box or bin somewhere. It was pretty decent, they're pointless against hard objects but against soft.... It wouldn't be my first choice for self defense but if I needed something that wouldn't set off a metal detector it's an option.

For the most part they are stabbing weapons, simply because making one thin and sharp enough to slice means it gets dull the instant it hits anything harder than butter. Sure, you might get through a layer of cloth ONCE, but after that the edge isn't there to repeat it effectively. Stabbing though... works just fine. That's why many of them are triangular profiles and don't even bother to look like a knife. The Kerambit designs play on the leverage and profile to do some damage but it's not so much a slice as a stabbing arc.
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http://www.ceramicknife.org/

stumbled across this site once.
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http://www.ceramicknife.org/

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If you get a ceramic blade, don't leave it open and then step on it.
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Posted: 6/15/2011 12:31:57 AM EST
The dagger style knives conceal nicely inside a kneck tie, point down. They also provide enough weight to keep your tie from blowing around in the wind.
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So which brands or models don't add metal to the blade sufficient to or for the purpose of setting off metal detectors?
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Posted: 6/16/2011 2:37:56 PM EST
Originally Posted By Donith:
The dagger style knives conceal nicely inside a kneck tie, point down. They also provide enough weight to keep your tie from blowing around in the wind.


Good info. Are you talking on the straght handle or will some of the push (t handle) styles still fit?