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Posted: 4/24/2011 1:52:28 AM
So I wanted to get one of these for my 700 SPS Tactical, and I have a couple of questions.

First, understand that my dealer is often full of it. That said, he and a couple other guys in the shop said that these stocks are "eh...pretty ok...for a CHEAP stock. I wouldn't get one". I've never heard anything but AWESOME reviews of these stocks. What do you guys think?


Second...find one in stock! Remington 700 BDL right hand, short action. Olive w/ black web.


Thanks in advance, guys. If you find one in stock for around $400, you win 100 interwebz.
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Posted: 4/24/2011 1:58:12 AM
I don't have that version, but mine is similar. It is ok, and seemed to help a little on my rifle. It was much nicer then the hogue that came with the rifle. More felt recoil however.
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Posted: 4/24/2011 2:09:14 AM
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Originally Posted By Doug86:
I don't have that version, but mine is similar. It is ok, and seemed to help a little on my rifle. It was much nicer then the hogue that came with the rifle. More felt recoil however.


Aluminum bedding and a more rigid stock is an upgrade over the hogue. Most likely the hogue stock was flexing which causes a little less felt recoil but also negatively impacts accuracy.

I have the B&C Medalist w/ vertical grip on my Savage 10FP and it is a huge upgrade over the cheapo plastic stock from Savage, even after some lead was put in it.
I have no experience with highend stocks, I am more of a price/performance guy, and these fit the bill nicely. I'm sure you can spend more money and get something even nicer but how much more will you have to spend?

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Posted: 5/22/2011 10:17:02 PM
Well, I went ahead and ordered the one I have pictured, along with the detachable mag kit. Pretty expensive, but I think I'll love it. It wasn't grouping too great, even with expensive match ammo, but it was grouping, so I know it wasn't the scope. I took the Hogue stock off, and noticed that it touches the barrel at the end, so I can't imagine expecting any accuracy from that. Can't wait to see what it'll do with the new stuff. Will post pictures when I get everything together.
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Posted: 5/22/2011 10:20:06 PM
Originally Posted By Bushylover:
Well, I went ahead and ordered the one I have pictured, along with the detachable mag kit. Pretty expensive, but I think I'll love it. It wasn't grouping too great, even with expensive match ammo, but it was grouping, so I know it wasn't the scope. I took the Hogue stock off, and noticed that it touches the barrel at the end, so I can't imagine expecting any accuracy from that. Can't wait to see what it'll do with the new stuff. Will post pictures when I get everything together.


I have been wanting to put one on my 700 , where did you find one in stock ?
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Originally Posted By Bushylover:
Well, I went ahead and ordered the one I have pictured, along with the detachable mag kit. Pretty expensive, but I think I'll love it. It wasn't grouping too great, even with expensive match ammo, but it was grouping, so I know it wasn't the scope. I took the Hogue stock off, and noticed that it touches the barrel at the end, so I can't imagine expecting any accuracy from that. Can't wait to see what it'll do with the new stuff. Will post pictures when I get everything together.


The new Remingtons hunting(3 700's) rifles I've bought, all had whats called "pressure bedded" stocks. It means that the tip of the stock puts pressure on the barrel. I've been told by some that this is a way of increasing accuracy––-at least that is why Remington does it. I don't know if that's true or not, but I've always free flloated the barrels and found them all to be very accurate that way. Not sure if it's more accurate than the way Remington sends them out from the factory.

Maybe someone else can expand on that.

BTW: Nice looking stock. it's what I want also.
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Posted: 5/22/2011 10:24:30 PM
I have a sight that has both long and short action versions in stock....

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Posted: 5/22/2011 10:30:04 PM
I have one.

Very heavy. Not for dragging through the woods.

Solid as a rock though, and adjustable.
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Posted: 5/22/2011 10:31:01 PM
Originally Posted By KG5S:
Originally Posted By Bushylover:
Well, I went ahead and ordered the one I have pictured, along with the detachable mag kit. Pretty expensive, but I think I'll love it. It wasn't grouping too great, even with expensive match ammo, but it was grouping, so I know it wasn't the scope. I took the Hogue stock off, and noticed that it touches the barrel at the end, so I can't imagine expecting any accuracy from that. Can't wait to see what it'll do with the new stuff. Will post pictures when I get everything together.


I have been wanting to put one on my 700 , where did you find one in stock ?


http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet/StoreFront


This place usually has them.
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Posted: 5/22/2011 10:32:43 PM
Originally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By Bushylover:
Well, I went ahead and ordered the one I have pictured, along with the detachable mag kit. Pretty expensive, but I think I'll love it. It wasn't grouping too great, even with expensive match ammo, but it was grouping, so I know it wasn't the scope. I took the Hogue stock off, and noticed that it touches the barrel at the end, so I can't imagine expecting any accuracy from that. Can't wait to see what it'll do with the new stuff. Will post pictures when I get everything together.


The new Remingtons hunting(3 700's) rifles I've bought, all had whats called "pressure bedded" stocks. It means that the tip of the stock puts pressure on the barrel. I've been told by some that this is a way of increasing accuracy––-at least that is why Remington does it. I don't know if that's true or not, but I've always free flloated the barrels and found them all to be very accurate that way. Not sure if it's more accurate than the way Remington sends them out from the factory.

Maybe someone else can expand on that.

BTW: Nice looking stock. it's what I want also.


Pressure bedding is designed to improve first shot accuracy from a cold barrel.F
One often sees vertical stringing of groups as more rounds are fired and the barrrel heats up

Free floating largely avoids this
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Posted: 5/22/2011 10:34:52 PM

Originally Posted By KG5S:
Originally Posted By Bushylover:
Well, I went ahead and ordered the one I have pictured, along with the detachable mag kit. Pretty expensive, but I think I'll love it. It wasn't grouping too great, even with expensive match ammo, but it was grouping, so I know it wasn't the scope. I took the Hogue stock off, and noticed that it touches the barrel at the end, so I can't imagine expecting any accuracy from that. Can't wait to see what it'll do with the new stuff. Will post pictures when I get everything together.


I have been wanting to put one on my 700 , where did you find one in stock ?

Stocky's has a few more in stock. Hell of a price, too.
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Originally Posted By KiowaCreekRaider:
Originally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By Bushylover:
Well, I went ahead and ordered the one I have pictured, along with the detachable mag kit. Pretty expensive, but I think I'll love it. It wasn't grouping too great, even with expensive match ammo, but it was grouping, so I know it wasn't the scope. I took the Hogue stock off, and noticed that it touches the barrel at the end, so I can't imagine expecting any accuracy from that. Can't wait to see what it'll do with the new stuff. Will post pictures when I get everything together.


The new Remingtons hunting(3 700's) rifles I've bought, all had whats called "pressure bedded" stocks. It means that the tip of the stock puts pressure on the barrel. I've been told by some that this is a way of increasing accuracy––-at least that is why Remington does it. I don't know if that's true or not, but I've always free flloated the barrels and found them all to be very accurate that way. Not sure if it's more accurate than the way Remington sends them out from the factory.

Maybe someone else can expand on that.

BTW: Nice looking stock. it's what I want also.


Pressure bedding is designed to improve first shot accuracy from a cold barrel.F
One often sees vertical stringing of groups as more rounds are fired and the barrrel heats up

Free floating largely avoids this

I'll be damned. That's EXACTLY what it's doing. Usually I can get the first and second shot to touch. After that, it's wherever the hell.
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Posted: 5/22/2011 10:42:02 PM
I bought that exact model from stockysstocks.com, I love it based off the first impression, but I haven't had a read chance to fire it to give you a legit assessment.
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Posted: 5/22/2011 10:50:36 PM
Here is mine I just got. I have no complaints at all.



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I had one of the non adjustable vertical grips on a Howa and loved it, found out though, that my bad shoulder doesn't deal well with the recoil of a 20" 308, and my eyes prevent left handed use.

Now I have an AR
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Originally Posted By SFHC:
Here is mine I just got. I have no complaints at all.

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj274/scrichboy/914cc541.jpg


Sexy!!!

But seems to be missing something on the end.
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Posted: 5/22/2011 11:02:43 PM
I don't have that stock, but I do have an Anschutz style for 10/22's for my Kidd rifle; it's a very nice stock and I would not hesitate to buy another one. I need to check their web site to find out whether they have a hunting stock that will fit my favorite Model 70.

I was skeptical about B&C stocks for a long time, but no longer.

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Posted: 5/22/2011 11:10:00 PM
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Originally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By Bushylover:
Well, I went ahead and ordered the one I have pictured, along with the detachable mag kit. Pretty expensive, but I think I'll love it. It wasn't grouping too great, even with expensive match ammo, but it was grouping, so I know it wasn't the scope. I took the Hogue stock off, and noticed that it touches the barrel at the end, so I can't imagine expecting any accuracy from that. Can't wait to see what it'll do with the new stuff. Will post pictures when I get everything together.


The new Remingtons hunting(3 700's) rifles I've bought, all had whats called "pressure bedded" stocks. It means that the tip of the stock puts pressure on the barrel. I've been told by some that this is a way of increasing accuracy––-at least that is why Remington does it. I don't know if that's true or not, but I've always free flloated the barrels and found them all to be very accurate that way. Not sure if it's more accurate than the way Remington sends them out from the factory.

Maybe someone else can expand on that.

BTW: Nice looking stock. it's what I want also.


The problem with pressure bedding in wood stocks is that it's no good when the weather changes, causing the moisture content of the stock to change. The problem with it in all stocks is getting it adjusted just right as it takes more than one iteration of taking the action out of the stock to get it right. I knocked the bedding pad out of a Remington stock yesterday. The new barrel is a #3 contour similar to the one I removed. I plan to shoot the rifle next, then bed the action and the shoulder I left on the barrel. I'm betting it's going to shoot well.




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Posted: 5/22/2011 11:15:38 PM
Stocky's was where I got mine too . You have to watch their site to see what becomes available. Great folks to deal with .

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Just ordered the M40 style for my .338 win mag. I would have liked the medalist A-5, but I don't want to lug the extra 2.3 pounds around when I'm hunting with it. It's heavy enough already. This site is terrible on my credit card.
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i have the A2...which is the same thing minus the adjustments, i did very well in my sniper class with that...just because it isnt some 1000$ custom build doesnt mean you cant
shoot lights out with it...its very sturdy and takes away alot of recoil...
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Posted: 5/25/2011 8:08:20 PM
Stuff came today. Got the stock, the detachable magazine kit (10 round), and a sun shade for my Mk4.

No decent camera, but oh well. Oh, and even with the ammo it doesn't like, I can keep it in a 2" group, which for my shaky ass, is quite good.

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I'll be going with the m40 style when one is available and I have the funds.
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Looks good, bloody hell that looks like a big magazine.
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Originally Posted By Slipey76:
Looks good, bloody hell that looks like a big magazine.

It's ten rounds, but it's very thin. Not quite single stack, but only very slightly staggered.

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sonnnnnn id like to see the group after a quick manipulation of that bolt after 10 rounds....

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On a related note, anyone know someplace that does a nice quick job of threading a bolt handle? It kinda upsets me that I have a nice teardrop knob and I can't use it.
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Originally Posted By glazer1972:
I'll be going with the m40 style when one is available and I have the funds.


I ordered the m40 in tan with black webbing.......not in stock. It shipped yesterday and will be here tomorrow.

Good looking rifle Ron.
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Originally Posted By Bushylover:
On a related note, anyone know someplace that does a nice quick job of threading a bolt handle? It kinda upsets me that I have a nice teardrop knob and I can't use it.




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ETA: Don't know what their turnaround time is, but they are in Ohio. Not too far from you.
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Well I got out to give it a real test (granted, still at 100yds), and used Federal 168gr GMM, and Hornady 168gr AMax. The GMM was very good; the AMax was simply outstanding.

Now, you have to remember...as I said, I shake a lot, and can't get the .25" groups most people can. I know the gun can do it....I can't.


Here's the groups I got:


Federal Gold Medal Match- This was the small silhouette at the top left of a B27 target.





Hornady A-Max- I was shooting two three round groups, but on the second group, I only had one round left, and wanted to shoot at the steel clanger that was further out.

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