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Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:35:12 PM EDT
[#1]
That looks like a fucked up link.

Failed attempt at hotlink?

nevermind. I see it is fixed now.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:36:15 PM EDT
[#2]




Quoted:

That looks like a fucked up link.



Failed attempt at hotlink?



nevermind. I see it is fixed now.


should be fixed now

Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:39:12 PM EDT
[#3]
Huummmmm
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:39:18 PM EDT
[#4]
What is the "New Madrid Fault System"?
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:39:44 PM EDT
[#5]
And the tin foil theory is?
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:41:31 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
What is the "New Madrid Fault System"?


When God lights that fuse this country is doomed.

DOOMED I TELL YOU!
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:41:41 PM EDT
[#7]
So FEMA is doing what it's actually supposed to be doing?
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:42:11 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
And the tin foil theory is?


http://www.nwofighters.org/new-madrid-2011-earth-quake-imminent-haarp-kills-birds-proof-fema-drills/

Get an extra roll of the foil!
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:43:40 PM EDT
[#9]
Wait, don't 10 million people live in the New Madrid fault zone?  Why are they only asking for food for 7 million...
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:43:59 PM EDT
[#10]
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/6185440/do_dead_birds_and_fish_warn_of_an_impending.html
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:44:07 PM EDT
[#11]
I can haz sum?
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:44:41 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Quoted:
And the tin foil theory is?


http://www.nwofighters.org/new-madrid-2011-earth-quake-imminent-haarp-kills-birds-proof-fema-drills/

Get an extra roll of the foil!


Haliburton earthquake machine?
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:44:51 PM EDT
[#13]
The fed has a site called fbo.gov. That's funny.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:45:42 PM EDT
[#14]
The New Madrid Fault system is in the center of the US right through  MO, TN and it's over due to make things shake.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:45:51 PM EDT
[#15]




Quoted:

What is the "New Madrid Fault System"?




Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:45:53 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
What is the "New Madrid Fault System"?


The new Madrid fault runs up the east side of the Mississippi River.  Roughtly from the boot heel of Missouri to North of St louis.  We had a tremor in the 70's and one a couple years ago.  I remember both.  The last one woke me  early in the morning.   The last major event was in the early 1800's.  The Mississippi changed its course and ran backwards in a couple areas.    

Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:47:03 PM EDT
[#17]
Let's see ............ 7 million X how many meals per day X how many days = entire military ration output of US during WW2 ..........





Oh yeah, I'd bid on that in a heartbeat.









ETA



Re-read it.  Ten days X two meals a day X 7 million. ONLY 140 MILLION meals.
 
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:47:21 PM EDT
[#18]





Quoted:



What is the "New Madrid Fault System"?



big ass fault in the mid west
NVM already covered


if it goes it will be a massive mess and nothing here is earth quake approved and many of the old cities  especailly along the Mississippi have ancient ass historical/vintage  buildings all over the place





 
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:47:53 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Quoted:
And the tin foil theory is?


http://www.nwofighters.org/new-madrid-2011-earth-quake-imminent-haarp-kills-birds-proof-fema-drills/

Get an extra roll of the foil!


Wow! That's one of those links that I click on and I feel like I instantly go into the crazy database.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:48:37 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Wait, don't 10 million people live in the New Madrid fault zone?  Why are they only asking for food for 7 million...


70% either depend on welfare or wouldn't know how to survive.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:49:38 PM EDT
[#21]
You boys in ArKansas might wanna get some duct tape and plastic wrap.

http://www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=46853


New Study Examines Impact Of 7.7 Magnitude Earthquake On States In New Madrid Seismic Zone  
Release Date: November 20, 2008
Release Number: HQ-08-249

»New Madrid Seismic Zone Catastrophic Earthquake Planning

-Areas nearest NMSZ would experience widespread and catastrophic physical damage, negative social impacts and economic losses; states include Alabama, Arkansas, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri and Tennessee.

WASHINGTON, D.C. –– The Department of Homeland Security's Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) today released a report, Impact of Earthquakes on the Central USA, which presents the findings of a two-year study on the impact of a 7.7 magnitude earthquake on states in the New Madrid Seismic Zone (NMSZ). The study was conducted for FEMA by the Mid-America Earthquake (MAE) Center at the University of Illinois in partnership with the Central United States Earthquake Consortium (CUSEC), the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (USACE), and George Washington University's Institute for Crisis, Disaster and Risk Management.

The study, the first of its kind to be conducted on such a large scale, is part of FEMA's NMSZ Catastrophic Earthquake Disaster Response Planning Initiative. It is primarily intended to provide scientific data upon which to base response and recovery planning for the devastating earthquakes that have long been predicted for the New Madrid region, which includes areas of Alabama, Arkansas, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri and Tennessee. The study is available for download at mae.ce.uiuc.edu, click on the second small screen on the left or wait for and click on the headline "New Comprehensive Report on Earthquakes in the Central USA."

According to the study, areas within the NMSZ would experience widespread and catastrophic physical damage, negative social impacts, and economic losses. Three different earthquake events were considered, one for each segment of the New Madrid Fault - northeast, central and southwest.  For example, an earthquake event that occurs in the southwestern part of the seismic zone would cause significant damage in northeast Arkansas, northwest Mississippi, western Tennessee and portions of western Kentucky, and is likely to cause damage to the greatest number of homes and affect the largest number of people. The study notes that the total economic impact of a series of NMSZ earthquakes is likely to constitute the highest economic losses due to a natural disaster in the United States.

The report provides state-specific information, including damage levels specific to building and occupancy type; essential facilities; highway bridges; electric power, potable water, waste water and communications facilities; and pipeline damage where appropriate. It also identifies the counties that could be expected to sustain the most damage in each state and provides information on potential interruptions of utility services and impacts on essential facilities, such as hospitals, schools, emergency operations centers, and police and fire stations.

The assessments provided in the study have been used to facilitate earthquake response operations planning sessions in 30 FEMA-supported workshops, conducted with the 747 counties and the eight states in the NMSZ. The workshops were designed to support the development of integrated state and local plans for response and recovery operations following a catastrophic earthquake. Participants included more than 3,800 representatives of federal, state, tribal, local and county emergency management and responder organizations, as well as the private sector.

Additional planning workshops are scheduled, including FEMA regional- and national-level workshops. A capstone workshop will involve the integration of all the plans developed through the scenario-based workshops.

The scenarios for the workshops were developed using FEMA's Hazards U.S. Multi-Hazard (HAZUS-MH) earthquake impact modeling software. HAZUS-MH is a tool used to assess risk and provide estimates of hazard-related damage and takes into account various impacts of a hazard event, such as the physical damage, economic loss and social impacts resulting from earthquakes, floods and hurricanes.

Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:49:56 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
So FEMA is doing what it's actually supposed to be doing?


It's only OK when individuals horde food and guns.  It isn't as cool when the "sheep" might get a chance to live and eat because the local, state, and federal authorities are able to help out.  There is no "I told you so" moment and sense of smug self-righteousness - and no soccer mom harem.  The soccer mom harem is key.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:50:24 PM EDT
[#23]
New Madrid Fault Zone is why you should be concerned about Kentucky, not California, falling in the ocean.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:50:43 PM EDT
[#24]
Man, that nwofighter site is awesome!  I never realized how tangled the web of conspiracy and lies really is.  

Off for a few to buy tinfoil and Spam.

Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:50:51 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Quoted:
So FEMA is doing what it's actually supposed to be doing?


It's only OK when individuals horde food and guns.  It isn't as cool when the "sheep" might get a chance to live and eat because the local, state, and federal authorities are able to help out.  There is no "I told you so" moment and sense of smug self-righteousness - and no soccer mom harem.  The soccer mom harem is key.




Spot on Chap.  Spot on.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:51:26 PM EDT
[#26]
Nevermind..
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:51:36 PM EDT
[#27]



Quoted:


What is the "New Madrid Fault System"?


it makes the Mississippi run bassakwards....



 
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:52:21 PM EDT
[#28]
Texas is still a great place to live
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:52:53 PM EDT
[#29]
That's a lot of MRE's.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:53:39 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Quoted:
And the tin foil theory is?


http://www.nwofighters.org/new-madrid-2011-earth-quake-imminent-haarp-kills-birds-proof-fema-drills/

Get an extra roll of the foil!


Tin Foil my ass, when that fault falters; Memphis, St. Louis are fucking destroyed.  The seismic waves are going to be carried by bedrock and bedrock is extremely efficiently I might add.  The last time fault  released energy it released 3 jolts of 8.8 magnitude seismic waves, hell it caused bells in Boston to ring.  This time, all those buildings made from brick are going to collapse, millions more people live in the area now.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:55:01 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
Quoted:
So FEMA is doing what it's actually supposed to be doing?


It's only OK when individuals horde food and guns.  It isn't as cool when the "sheep" might get a chance to live and eat because the local, state, and federal authorities are able to help out.  There is no "I told you so" moment and sense of smug self-righteousness - and no soccer mom harem.  The soccer mom harem is key.


?????????????  Thanks, but I'd prefer NOT to have to rely on the local, state or feds myself if at all possible. A little beforehand preps never hurt anyone and neither does a little personal responsibility.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:55:29 PM EDT
[#32]
The democrats would love to see that thing kick off. Take out some red states.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:55:39 PM EDT
[#33]
trully bad (a very possible) JUJU

from wiki

The zone had four of the largest North American earthquakes in recorded history, with moment magnitudes estimated to be as large as 8.0, all occurring within a three-month period between December 1811 and February 1812. Many of the published accounts describe the cumulative effects of all the earthquakes (known as the New Madrid Sequence); thus finding the individual effects of each quake can be difficult. Magnitude estimates and epicenters are based on interpretations of historical accounts and may vary.


In a report filed in November 2008, The U.S. Federal Emergency Management Agency warned that a serious earthquake in the New Madrid Seismic Zone could result in "the highest economic losses due to a natural disaster in the United States," further predicting "widespread and catastrophic" damage across Alabama, Arkansas, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri and particularly Tennessee, where a 7.7 magnitude quake or greater would cause damage to tens of thousands of structures affecting water distribution, transportation systems, and other vital infrastructure.[21] The earthquake is expected to also result in many thousands of fatalities, with more than 4,000 of the fatalities expected in Memphis alone.

According to some scientists, however, that is nothing compared to what an 8.0 earthquake could do to the New Madrid Region. An earthquake of that size on the New Madrid Fault would destroy 60 percent of Memphis, killing tens of thousands and causing over $50 billion dollars in property damage in the city alone [22].

The potential for the recurrence of large earthquakes and their impact today on densely populated cities in and around the seismic zone has generated much research devoted to understanding in the New Madrid Seismic Zone. By studying evidence of past quakes and closely monitoring ground motion and current earthquake activity, scientists attempt to understand their causes and recurrence intervals.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:56:12 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
Wait, don't 10 million people live in the New Madrid fault zone?  Why are they only asking for food for 7 million...


Because only about 2 million or so will survive.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:57:03 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
You boys in ArKansas might wanna get some duct tape and plastic wrap.

http://www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=46853


New Study Examines Impact Of 7.7 Magnitude Earthquake On States In New Madrid Seismic Zone  
Release Date: November 20, 2008
Release Number: HQ-08-249

»New Madrid Seismic Zone Catastrophic Earthquake Planning

-Areas nearest NMSZ would experience widespread and catastrophic physical damage, negative social impacts and economic losses; states include Alabama, Arkansas, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri and Tennessee.

WASHINGTON, D.C. –– The Department of Homeland Security's Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) today released a report, Impact of Earthquakes on the Central USA, which presents the findings of a two-year study on the impact of a 7.7 magnitude earthquake on states in the New Madrid Seismic Zone (NMSZ). The study was conducted for FEMA by the Mid-America Earthquake (MAE) Center at the University of Illinois in partnership with the Central United States Earthquake Consortium (CUSEC), the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (USACE), and George Washington University's Institute for Crisis, Disaster and Risk Management.

The study, the first of its kind to be conducted on such a large scale, is part of FEMA's NMSZ Catastrophic Earthquake Disaster Response Planning Initiative. It is primarily intended to provide scientific data upon which to base response and recovery planning for the devastating earthquakes that have long been predicted for the New Madrid region, which includes areas of Alabama, Arkansas, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri and Tennessee. The study is available for download at mae.ce.uiuc.edu, click on the second small screen on the left or wait for and click on the headline "New Comprehensive Report on Earthquakes in the Central USA."

According to the study, areas within the NMSZ would experience widespread and catastrophic physical damage, negative social impacts, and economic losses. Three different earthquake events were considered, one for each segment of the New Madrid Fault - northeast, central and southwest.  For example, an earthquake event that occurs in the southwestern part of the seismic zone would cause significant damage in northeast Arkansas, northwest Mississippi, western Tennessee and portions of western Kentucky, and is likely to cause damage to the greatest number of homes and affect the largest number of people. The study notes that the total economic impact of a series of NMSZ earthquakes is likely to constitute the highest economic losses due to a natural disaster in the United States.

The report provides state-specific information, including damage levels specific to building and occupancy type; essential facilities; highway bridges; electric power, potable water, waste water and communications facilities; and pipeline damage where appropriate. It also identifies the counties that could be expected to sustain the most damage in each state and provides information on potential interruptions of utility services and impacts on essential facilities, such as hospitals, schools, emergency operations centers, and police and fire stations.

The assessments provided in the study have been used to facilitate earthquake response operations planning sessions in 30 FEMA-supported workshops, conducted with the 747 counties and the eight states in the NMSZ. The workshops were designed to support the development of integrated state and local plans for response and recovery operations following a catastrophic earthquake. Participants included more than 3,800 representatives of federal, state, tribal, local and county emergency management and responder organizations, as well as the private sector.

Additional planning workshops are scheduled, including FEMA regional- and national-level workshops. A capstone workshop will involve the integration of all the plans developed through the scenario-based workshops.

The scenarios for the workshops were developed using FEMA's Hazards U.S. Multi-Hazard (HAZUS-MH) earthquake impact modeling software. HAZUS-MH is a tool used to assess risk and provide estimates of hazard-related damage and takes into account various impacts of a hazard event, such as the physical damage, economic loss and social impacts resulting from earthquakes, floods and hurricanes.



When I was in the Missouri National Guard, our "magic number" when it came to the richter scale was 6.5 or higher.  If we saw that in the news, it was "come to the armory, don't wait for a phone call."  I still remember some of the senior guys talking about the fight the state went through to keep its MP, aviation, and engineer assets during the big Reserve/Guard restructuring when Big Army wanted to make the Guard primarily combat arms units.  The structure and composition of the MO National Guard ha EVERYTHING to do with the New Madrid fault, and the fact that a lot of people are VERY worried about what will happen when - not if - it slips again anything like it did 200 years ago.

Maybe someone more current can offer more.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:57:07 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
trully bad (a very possible) JUJU

from wiki

The zone had four of the largest North American earthquakes in recorded history, with moment magnitudes estimated to be as large as 8.0, all occurring within a three-month period between December 1811 and February 1812. Many of the published accounts describe the cumulative effects of all the earthquakes (known as the New Madrid Sequence); thus finding the individual effects of each quake can be difficult. Magnitude estimates and epicenters are based on interpretations of historical accounts and may vary.


In a report filed in November 2008, The U.S. Federal Emergency Management Agency warned that a serious earthquake in the New Madrid Seismic Zone could result in "the highest economic losses due to a natural disaster in the United States," further predicting "widespread and catastrophic" damage across Alabama, Arkansas, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri and particularly Tennessee, where a 7.7 magnitude quake or greater would cause damage to tens of thousands of structures affecting water distribution, transportation systems, and other vital infrastructure.[21] The earthquake is expected to also result in many thousands of fatalities, with more than 4,000 of the fatalities expected in Memphis alone.

According to some scientists, however, that is nothing compared to what an 8.0 earthquake could do to the New Madrid Region. An earthquake of that size on the New Madrid Fault would destroy 60 percent of Memphis, killing tens of thousands and causing over $50 billion dollars in property damage in the city alone [22].

The potential for the recurrence of large earthquakes and their impact today on densely populated cities in and around the seismic zone has generated much research devoted to understanding in the New Madrid Seismic Zone. By studying evidence of past quakes and closely monitoring ground motion and current earthquake activity, scientists attempt to understand their causes and recurrence intervals.


I told you.

As doomed as Ensign Ricky in the red shirt form Star Trek
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:59:09 PM EDT
[#37]

When I lived in KC back in '93/'94 some scientist was predicting that there would be an earthquake on the New Madrid fault line.  People were buying earth quake insurance all over KC.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 6:59:53 PM EDT
[#38]
Maybe the Cascadia subduction zone will slip at the same time as the New Madrid fault.  We're really fucked if that happens.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 7:00:00 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
And the tin foil theory is?


http://www.nwofighters.org/new-madrid-2011-earth-quake-imminent-haarp-kills-birds-proof-fema-drills/

Get an extra roll of the foil!


Tin Foil my ass, when that fault falters; Memphis, St. Louis are fucking destroyed.  The seismic waves are going to be carried by bedrock and bedrock is extremely efficiently I might add.  The last time fault  released energy it released 3 jolts of 8.8 magnitude seismic waves, hell it caused bells in Boston to ring.  This time, all those buildings made from brick are going to collapse, millions more people live in the area now.


The worst bit is that building standards are not anything like they should be for an earthquake zone - it is not politically feasible because they do not occur enough.  Good luck finding someone who knows how to build to San Fran-style codes even if you want to pay for it yourself.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 7:01:19 PM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Wait, don't 10 million people live in the New Madrid fault zone?  Why are they only asking for food for 7 million...


70% either depend on welfare or wouldn't know how to survive.


Maybe they are expecting a couple of million to die off if it happens?
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 7:03:01 PM EDT
[#41]
fbo.gov huh?
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 7:03:23 PM EDT
[#42]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Wait, don't 10 million people live in the New Madrid fault zone?  Why are they only asking for food for 7 million...




70% either depend on welfare or wouldn't know how to survive.


....because the Earth isn't going to swallow up all the food.  



 
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 7:03:34 PM EDT
[#43]
The last big one on that fault rang church bells in Pennsylvania.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 7:04:23 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
Maybe the Cascadia subduction zone will slip at the same time as the New Madrid fault.  We're really fucked if that happens.


worse case scenario?

new madrid tickles the yellowstone caldera which then proceeds to have a major eruption covering large parts of the central and western us states in many feet of ash and taking care of global warming better than al gore ever could. reducing the world's ability to grow food due to the cloud cover and lets not even talk about what all that ash does to the wheat producing parts of the us...

its called a 'die off' and you're invited. (but no zombies.. sorry)
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 7:04:34 PM EDT
[#45]
If Memphis and Saint Louis were toppled not much would be lost. Both of those cities are dumps.

It would be like Detroit catching on fire.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 7:04:39 PM EDT
[#46]
I hope they have a long shelf life.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 7:05:18 PM EDT
[#47]




Quoted:

Wait, don't 10 million people live in the New Madrid fault zone? Why are they only asking for food for 7 million...




The math is simple.  
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 7:06:18 PM EDT
[#48]



Quoted:





Quoted:


Quoted:

Wait, don't 10 million people live in the New Madrid fault zone?  Why are they only asking for food for 7 million...




70% either depend on welfare or wouldn't know how to survive.


....because the Earth isn't going to swallow up all the food.  

 


But what if its REALLY hungry?



 
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 7:07:02 PM EDT
[#49]




Quoted:

So FEMA is doing what it's actually supposed to be doing?




FEMA shouldn't exist.





That stuff should be a state issue.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 7:07:39 PM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
I hope they have a long shelf life.


No shit - I would hope they have some rotation system where older stuff gets divvied out for smaller disasters and a certain stockage depth is always maintained.  Sadly, FEMA makes the military look organized and I have seen to much military supply stupidity.
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