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Posted: 12/7/2010 2:19:46 PM
Neighbor from a couple of doors down and I were talking about these unemployment checks.
He asked some questions I didn't know answers to so I thought I'm come to the All Knowing ARF Fount of Knowledge and ask.

Background: Male. 56yrs old.
He is an involuntary retiree from a local company.
They walked in on him one day and said you are now retired.
He had to sign some kind of paperwork saying he would not apply for unemployment.
He receives a small pension(approx ~ $500 per month).
Been out of work for 1+year now.
Can not find a job.

Can a retiree get unemployment?
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Posted: 12/7/2010 2:24:17 PM
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Posted: 12/7/2010 2:28:14 PM
Originally Posted By HellifIknow:
He had to sign some kind of paperwork saying he would not apply for unemployment.

Hopefully he has a copy of it. He needs to check with his state's Department of Labor to see if this is even legal.
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Posted: 12/7/2010 2:29:42 PM
He got laid off, then signed something he didn't fully understand. His unemployment insurance was bought and paid for, he needs to check to find out if it's available. Or it wasn't paid which probably puts the old employer in a bad spot.



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Posted: 12/7/2010 2:35:15 PM

I took an early retirement almost two years ago. He's probably screwed. He could have refused the offer and then they would have just laid him off. There's nothing keeping me from working again, and if I did, and got laid off after 26 weeks, collecting UI. Not much chance of me doing that though.

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Posted: 12/7/2010 2:37:32 PM
Originally Posted By HellifIknow:
Neighbor from a couple of doors down and I were talking about these unemployment checks.
He asked some questions I didn't know answers to so I thought I'm come to the All Knowing ARF Fount of Knowledge and ask.

Background: Male. 56yrs old.
He is an involuntary retiree from a local company.
They walked in on him one day and said you are now retired.
He had to sign some kind of paperwork saying he would not apply for unemployment.He receives a small pension(approx ~ $500 per month).
Been out of work for 1+year now.
Can not find a job.

Can a retiree get unemployment?


He NEVER should have signed such a thing. What were they gonna do if he didn't? Fire him?

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Posted: 12/7/2010 2:43:10 PM
Originally Posted By HellifIknow:
Neighbor from a couple of doors down and I were talking about these unemployment checks.
He asked some questions I didn't know answers to so I thought I'm come to the All Knowing ARF Fount of Knowledge and ask.

Background: Male. 56yrs old.
He is an involuntary retiree from a local company.
They walked in on him one day and said you are now retired.
He had to sign some kind of paperwork saying he would not apply for unemployment.
He receives a small pension(approx ~ $500 per month).
Been out of work for 1+year now.
Can not find a job.

Can a retiree get unemployment?


I think the fact he waited a year will make it a no-go.

I was laid off when my employment sector cratered (home construction) but I figured I would find a new job shortly (being a top performer for my previous employers) and after a year of "Thanks for your resume but we aren't hiring - we are firing left and right to try and keep alive" I figured I might actually need some assistance. Sorry Charlie. If you don't file within 6 months (in TX at least) you don't qualify so I was told "Thank You for trying to look for employment and paying your own bills from your own reserves. For doing that, you will not receive any .Gov assistance"

Got to love the .GOV when it comes to helping the "working man" (which I was for 30 years) when he needs some help getting back to work.
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Posted: 12/7/2010 2:47:25 PM
Originally Posted By Bigger_Hammer:
Originally Posted By HellifIknow:
Neighbor from a couple of doors down and I were talking about these unemployment checks.
He asked some questions I didn't know answers to so I thought I'm come to the All Knowing ARF Fount of Knowledge and ask.

Background: Male. 56yrs old.
He is an involuntary retiree from a local company.
They walked in on him one day and said you are now retired.
He had to sign some kind of paperwork saying he would not apply for unemployment.
He receives a small pension(approx ~ $500 per month).
Been out of work for 1+year now.
Can not find a job.

Can a retiree get unemployment?


I think the fact he waited a year will make it a no-go.

I was laid off when my employment sector cratered (home construction) but I figured I would find a new job shortly (being a top performer for my previous employers) and after a year of "Thanks for your resume but we aren't hiring - we are firing left and right to try and keep alive" I figured I might actually need some assistance. Sorry Charlie. If you don't file within 6 months (in TX at least) you don't qualify so I was told "Thank You for trying to look for employment and paying your own bills from your own reserves. For doing that, you will not receive any .Gov assistance"

Got to love the .GOV when it comes to helping the "working man" (which I was for 30 years) when he needs some help getting back to work.


This... You can just wait a year or two and then expect to collect UE...
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Posted: 12/7/2010 2:52:45 PM
He can probably appeal it to whatever labor board or unemployment commission you have in your state. Doubt he'll get anything as he's receiving a pension. In my state, accepting any retirement funds disqualifies you from receiving unemployment payments. I think if he can stop receiving the pension, and the state labor board finds his termination to be without cause, he may be able to collect unemployment until he finds work.
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Posted: 12/7/2010 2:59:15 PM
So he has to go back to work for at least 26 weeks to become eligible for UE?
So if he got laid off after that he could collect?

I told him he wasn't eligible for benefits because he receives a pension.
Would this still be the case even after he went back to work and laid off?
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Posted: 12/7/2010 3:03:41 PM
[Last Edit: 12/7/2010 3:26:52 PM by Waldo]
Originally Posted By HellifIknow:
So he has to go back to work for at least 26 weeks to become eligible for UE?
So if he got laid off after that he could collect?

I told him he wasn't eligible for benefits because he receives a pension.
Would this still be the case even after he went back to work and laid off?


He's 56, nothing stopping him from working another job (if he can find one). He's not at any legal SSI age, so he could collect if he worked 26 weeks and got laid off again. (Varies by state, ect) They may or may not reduce his benefits by his pension amount. That varies too.


Here, read this: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/13/business/personal-business-when-pension-and-unemployment-checks-don-t-mix.html

More here:
http://digitalcommons.ilr.cornell.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1218&context=key_workplace



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Posted: 12/7/2010 3:21:39 PM
Originally Posted By Bubbles:
Originally Posted By HellifIknow:
He had to sign some kind of paperwork saying he would not apply for unemployment.

Hopefully he has a copy of it. He needs to check with his state's Department of Labor to see if this is even legal.


sounds, looks and smells like BS from there as well..
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