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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:00:25 PM
At work and noticed some strange vapor trails in the sky, looked closer and there's a plane flying over houston doing circles, it's moving farther and father east over time and out east is where all of the chemical plants are. Any other day I wouldn't care but not today. Who should I contact? I can't see it now since the sun has gone down but it's been over head for teh last house just flying in cirlces.
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:01:16 PM
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UAV?
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:01:48 PM
It's Fo Time, fo sho. What are you doing on ARFCOM, you should be in your ammo bunker by now.
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:02:54 PM
It's just a UFO from Area 51 on a cross-country flight. Nothing to worry about.
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:04:01 PM
I had a helicopter doing circles over my house for about 5 minutes earlier today. Not sure what the hell they wanted.
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:04:17 PM
I seriously tried to contact the FAA but then I remembered that it's Saturday night.

It's just a strange sight to see, especially on todays date,
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:05:49 PM
Mark LaRue dumping Dillo Dust on the city?
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:06:20 PM
Dibs on your guns, ammo and optics
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:06:54 PM
chem trails you be dead and just don't know it yet.
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:07:09 PM
chemtrails, time to put on the MOPP gear.
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:07:49 PM
My mom's brother believes in chemtrails.

He also lives in the hills of Idaho under an assumed name and taught my cousins to hide from the black helicopters.
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:08:00 PM
More sleep, less AM Coast to Coast
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:11:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Drakich:
chemtrails, too late to put on the MOPP gear.






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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:11:20 PM
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I saw it too. I just didn't think much of it.

ETA: There was a lot of activity at Ellington too.
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:12:38 PM
you seriously arent a chemtrails troofer are you?


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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:14:03 PM
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you seriously arent a chemtrails troofer are you?




Fuck no, I said vapor trails not chem trails.

Vapor trails are the correct term right?
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:14:31 PM

Originally Posted By Ghetto:
Originally Posted By JohnMikerson:
you seriously arent a chemtrails troofer are you?




Fuck no, I said vapor trails not chem trails.

Vapor trails are the correct term right?

Con(densation) trails.
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:15:29 PM
OH MY GOD, NOT TEH VAPOR TRAILS. It has begun
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:17:21 PM
Originally Posted By ziarifleman:

Originally Posted By Ghetto:
Originally Posted By JohnMikerson:
you seriously arent a chemtrails troofer are you?




Fuck no, I said vapor trails not chem trails.

Vapor trails are the correct term right?

Con(densation) trails.


That's what..........THEY...................want you to think.Just harmless condensation.Little droplets of water vapor.Nothing to be afraid of.


Then,BAM!!! During the physical act of love,a woman will steal your essence......then it will all become crystal clear to you.






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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:17:40 PM
Why aren't you trying to shoot it down?
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:17:49 PM

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Mark LaRue dumping Dillo Dust on the city?


Most likely.

He and Gov Perry hit the sauce a little early today.
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:19:24 PM
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Why aren't you trying to shoot it down?


That's what I'd do. Think 7 1/2 out of a .410 would do it?
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:20:37 PM

Originally Posted By capnrob97:
UAV?

Not enough, usually, for vapor trails.

Need air density, speed, etc...for that.

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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:22:34 PM

Originally Posted By carguym14:


That's what..........THEY...................want you to think.Just harmless condensation.Little droplets of water vapor.Nothing to be afraid of.


Then,BAM!!! During the physical act of love,a woman will steal your essence......then it will all become crystal clear to you.







Well, that's simple. You just deny them your essence.
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:23:31 PM

Originally Posted By Chris_C:

Originally Posted By capnrob97:
UAV?

Not enough, usually, for vapor trails.

Need air density, speed, etc...for that.


Do you guys (.mil pilots) try to adjust your altitude to avoid leaving contrails? And isn't there some compound in the fuel to cut down on them too?
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:24:13 PM
When you wake up, Obama will be god, health care a right, unions good, higher taxes the obivious solution and Nancy Pelosi will be smoking hot.
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:25:28 PM
The .gov is going a little heavy on the chemtrail dispensing this week to keep all the proles under control.. Nothing to worry about, citizen.
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:30:35 PM
Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
My mom's brother believes in chemtrails.

He also lives in the hills of Idaho under an assumed name and taught my cousins to hide from the black helicopters.


Way to go with the OPSEC...
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:31:51 PM
Saw it as well when we went into academy, even wife and daughter mentioned it.
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:35:22 PM

Originally Posted By valheru21:
Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
My mom's brother believes in chemtrails.

He also lives in the hills of Idaho under an assumed name and taught my cousins to hide from the black helicopters.


Way to go with the OPSEC...

I wish I had a better idea of where his house is, because I'd like to get a good aerial image of it and then mail it to him.
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:35:25 PM
Originally Posted By ziarifleman:

Originally Posted By Ghetto:
Originally Posted By JohnMikerson:
you seriously arent a chemtrails troofer are you?




Fuck no, I said vapor trails not chem trails.

Vapor trails are the correct term right?

Con(densation) trails.


CONTRAILS occur above 24,000 ft where the air is below freezing no matter what.

If flown below that it's something being dumped out.
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:35:30 PM

Originally Posted By ziarifleman:

Originally Posted By Chris_C:

Originally Posted By capnrob97:
UAV?

Not enough, usually, for vapor trails.

Need air density, speed, etc...for that.


Do you guys (.mil pilots) try to adjust your altitude to avoid leaving contrails? And isn't there some compound in the fuel to cut down on them too?
For what I flew in the suck, no. Never heard of it being SOP for any other platform as well.

Never heard of such a thing...JP5 or JP8 and go.




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Originally Posted By Indrid-Cold:

CONTRAILS occur above 24,000 ft where the air is below freezing no matter what.

If flown below that it's something being dumped out.

Clouds occur at elevations below 24k and temperatures above freezing.


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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:44:09 PM
When they reach ground level, tell us what they smell like.
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:44:58 PM
Originally Posted By Chris_C:

Originally Posted By ziarifleman:

Originally Posted By Chris_C:

Originally Posted By capnrob97:
UAV?

Not enough, usually, for vapor trails.

Need air density, speed, etc...for that.


Do you guys (.mil pilots) try to adjust your altitude to avoid leaving contrails? And isn't there some compound in the fuel to cut down on them too?
For what I flew in the suck, no. Never heard of it being SOP for any other platform as well.

Never heard of such a thing...JP5 or JP8 and go.






Fighters do what we can to minimize contrails. I've schwacked more than one Red-Air bandit who was not paying attention to his cons. Without them, I wouldn't have known they were there.

Jet A requires the Prist (anti-icing) additive before we can use it in our aircraft. That makes it basically JP8 (or 4 - can't remember which).
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:45:39 PM
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Well, Bye.


Don't mistake vapor trails for chem trails. Remember, breath in deeply, hold, hold, hold, exhale. Repeat until unconsciousness sets in. What do you want on your tombstone?
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:45:57 PM
Originally Posted By ziarifleman:

Originally Posted By Indrid-Cold:

CONTRAILS occur above 24,000 ft where the air is below freezing no matter what.

If flown below that it's something being dumped out.

Clouds occur at elevations below 24k and temperatures above freezing.




Contrails are not clouds.
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obviously, it's a possum.
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:53:03 PM
Mosquito sprayer.
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:55:42 PM
NASA

http://www.khou.com/news/local/Officials-NASA-test-plane-circling-city-is-safe-102705414.html
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Posted: 9/11/2010 9:58:04 PM
I saw those contrails too. Never seen a plane leaving a contrail do a u-turn.
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Posted: 9/11/2010 10:03:31 PM
Relax Dude, it just Aunt Janet and her FEMA Global Hawk UAV looking for the Zeta Cartel Members.

But on a serious note, If I were you I would head for the bunker dude, just to be sure. Shit; you do not want to end up in a FEMA Camp or anything.
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From RiverGhost's above link.

Officials: NASA test plane circling city is safe
by khou.com staff

http://www.khou.com/news/local/Officials-NASA-test-plane-circling-city-is-safe-102705414.html

Posted on September 11, 2010 at 7:38 PM

Updated today at 7:53 PM


HOUSTON—Many citizens were concerned Saturday after seeing a large plane circling the city, but officials said there is no cause for concern.

Officials at Ellington Field and Bush Intercontinental Airport confirmed it is a NASA test plane. Texas City Emergency Management said the plane is flying at 50,000 feet as a test maneuver.

11 News viewers are asked to send any videos or photos to assignments@khou.com or feed them into our YouNews section on the homepage.


spaceman74 said on September 11, 2010 at 8:51 PM
Yes, it is the Guppy making flights around the Houston area. They have been doing training flights for over a week. These test flights have been planned for several months and appropriate flight plans filed. Aircraft with multiple turboprops (T-56 engines) are capable (and do) fly sustained 50k flights including the Guppy, P-3, and C-130. If anyone is still concerned or skeptical, simply Google Ellington Field Flight Schedule and check out Flight Aware dot com. All local EFD planned flights are kept up to date on that site. Rest assured, not all the engineers at NASA with brains have been let go. The force is strong.... SpaceMan74

51732363 Flag this commentlsc2010 said on September 11, 2010 at 8:40 PM
How incredibly insensitive and irresponsible of NASA to test an aircraft, which was making irregular patterns over the city today, the anniversary of 9/11. Perhaps a heads up to the general public would have been nice...

51731974 Flag this commentlld2282 said on September 11, 2010 at 8:30 PM
Guppy serivce ceiling is only 32000 feet...therefore, doubt it was that transport aircraft used by NASA...gosh, don't believe you're going to see any turbo-props bouncing around 50,000 feet....only jets...settle down people.

51731619 Flag this commentelectronicseng2 said on September 11, 2010 at 8:21 PM
Thank you, petalpusher. I did a search for photos of the Guppy and this is, indeed, what I saw. Wow, what a cool looking aircraft. Thanks again for setting me straight.

51731336 Flag this commenttmvirginiaj said on September 11, 2010 at 8:12 PM
Maybe if NASA had not had the budget cuts, they could have retained the "employee with a brain" that was laid-off.

51731082 Flag this commentsunnysidesst said on September 11, 2010 at 8:11 PM
didn't e[spy] tha bugger, yet what else is new? drones...helicopters.... Hubble... and moreso .... Our 'Heavenly Father' what? me worry? nuff sed!!!

51731049 Flag this commentetxquilter said on September 11, 2010 at 8:10 PM
Thanks KHOU for keeping us informed. However I do wish NASA would have picked another day besides 9 11 to do this. Surely they could have foreseen that it would make a lot of people uneasy.

51731024 Flag this commentpetalpusher said on September 11, 2010 at 8:10 PM
The plane out of Ellington is the guppie and it's there all the time. Really a cool airplane. Has it's own hangar.

51731019 Flag this commentalankey said on September 11, 2010 at 8:07 PM
Superb bit of timing NASA. Who was the brainiac who came up with the idea of flying unusual air traffic patterns on Sept 11th? Was that insensitive or just a bit of bad planning? Who signed off on that little stunt?

51730933 Flag this commentelectronicseng2 said on September 11, 2010 at 8:05 PM
I saw a huge plane last week flying at about 1,500 feet above Ellington Field that I couldn't identify. It was shaped like a large whale and I've never seen anything like it in my life. Wondering if this is the same one that was seen at 50,000 feet today.

51730872 Flag this commenttwiddler said on September 11, 2010 at 8:01 PM
Good idea NASA...circle a large plane above a city on 911...way to go!

51730762 Flag this commentmrtommynazi said on September 11, 2010 at 7:47 PM
Yeah.it's flying really high and practicing turns or something while leaving a very sharp contrail. I was wondering what was up with that,thanks KHOU
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Originally Posted By Venkman:
Well, Bye.


Don't mistake vapor trails for chem trails. Remember, breath in deeply, hold, hold, hold, exhale. Repeat until unconsciousness sets in. What do you want on your tombstone?


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