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Posted: 8/30/2010 4:34:16 PM EDT

Winchester model 70 vs Remington 700 which one? In a 30-06 going to be used for deer and pigs.

Posted: 8/30/2010 4:34:52 PM EDT

[#1]

IBTP

REM 700

Posted: 8/30/2010 4:35:27 PM EDT

[#2]

always go with the rem 700

Posted: 8/30/2010 4:38:46 PM EDT

[#3]

Iv been reading about the controlled feeding in the win. 70 and the locking bolt with the safety. What advantage does the rem. 700 have over the win. 70???? Any issues as far as the cartridge ever falling out when feeding on the move?

Posted: 8/30/2010 4:40:11 PM EDT

[#4]

I like Model 70s.

ETA: I do not like the new trigger in them. AT ALL!

Posted: 8/30/2010 4:41:56 PM EDT

[#5]

never had an issue with my 700 or 70 in 308. trigger in both 70 and 700 were nice, but the 700 just shots better for me. Now...the 700 is a 700pss and the 70 is a feather weight.

Posted: 8/30/2010 4:45:19 PM EDT

[#6]

My opinion.

I think if you are going to customize the rifle, go with the 700. If it is going to be left a good 'ol dee rifle, go with the 70.

YMMV

Posted: 8/30/2010 4:45:50 PM EDT

[#7]

The 700 is typically a bit more accurate. The 70 has the nice safety on it.

Posted: 8/30/2010 4:46:42 PM EDT

[#8]

Are you dead set on these two? What about Savage?

Posted: 8/30/2010 4:47:33 PM EDT

[#9]

I voted M700 but thats just my preference, there is not a hairs difference between the two. I think the next bolt rifle I get though is going to be a savage.

Posted: 8/30/2010 4:49:15 PM EDT

[#10]

My nearly 30 year old blued, wood stocked Rem 700 ADL in 30-06 has outlasted two scopes, subzero temps, pouring down rain, and stupid-high heat. I call her my "meat-ax." I have newer rifles. I have prettier rifles. I have more accurate rifles. I have no other rifle that has consistently been as reliable under all conditions and put down whatever I was wanting to eat. Deer, hogs, elk, pigs, and one misguided attempt to see what a 30-06 would do to a cotton tail.

Posted: 8/30/2010 4:49:16 PM EDT

[#11]

You didnt say what budget you were looking at, but I looked at the new savage edge at walmart this evening, $260 for a new .308 rifle.

Posted: 8/30/2010 4:50:33 PM EDT

[#12]

In 3006 with a wood stock for hunting go with a model 70.

synthetic, heavy barrel in 308 get a 700.

Posted: 8/30/2010 4:52:11 PM EDT

[#13]

I would reccomend looking at the Browning A bolt Medallion as well. I have a rem700 , win70 and an S bolt medallion. I must say I REALLY light my light weight medallion! I also have a Savage 110 that I used for years and is my back up/ lender/truck gun.

Posted: 8/30/2010 4:53:38 PM EDT

[#14]

Pre '64 Model 70, otherwise Rem 700.

Posted: 8/30/2010 4:57:10 PM EDT

[#15]

I voted Rem700, but don't have experience with the Model 70. So for me, it's not an informed comparison.

Posted: 8/30/2010 4:59:21 PM EDT

[#16]

niether....SAVAGE!!!!!!!

Posted: 8/30/2010 5:00:36 PM EDT

[#17]

I have an older M700 ADL in 270. Pre J-lock

Excellent gun. Not flashy. Reliable and very accurate. These guns are still out there on the used market for pretty low prices. It doesn't cost much to rebarrel if needed.

If I had to buy a new gun tomorrow I'd be looking for:

Weatherby/Howa. I have a Vanguard. It's a very good gun and the price is right. Howa's version, the M1500, is just a good as anything out there and the price is right.

Savage/Stevens. They're rep speaks well of them. Price is right and they are sold everywhere.

CZ550. CZ makes a damn fine gun. All those rich guys hunting buffalo in Africa can't be wrong.

I'm not too impressed with the current RemChester offerings. If I was shopping for a M70, I'd be hitting the pawnshops for a pre-64.

Posted: 8/30/2010 5:01:21 PM EDT

[#18]

If I were to go full custom... I would buy a remington.

If I were going to leave pretty much factory, I would get Winchester. I bought a FN SPR .308 and I have actually enjoyed the winchester action that is in it.

Posted: 8/30/2010 5:12:40 PM EDT

[#19]

Both good. I personaly like the 700 a bit better. But the Model 70's are just as good.

Posted: 8/30/2010 5:59:39 PM EDT

[#20]

I have a Rem.700 in 30-06 very accurate but my friend has a Win. 70 Pre 64 that is accurate and feels more solid

Posted: 8/30/2010 6:05:27 PM EDT

[#21]

Neither. Get a CZ 550 way more rifle for the money than a rem or win. DO YOURSELF A BIG FAVOR AND CHECK THEM OUT

Posted: 8/30/2010 6:07:05 PM EDT

[#22]

I voted 700, because that's what I have and I like it.

However, I don't think there's anything wrong with the 70

Posted: 8/30/2010 6:15:46 PM EDT

[#23]

Old picture, hell I don't even live there anymore. But here's the Model 700 Stainless Fluted Limited in 30-06 that my wife bought me.

Posted: 8/31/2010 7:18:46 AM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:
Old picture, hell I don't even live there anymore. But here's the Model 700 Stainless Fluted Limited in 30-06 that my wife bought me.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g213/rbwater/100_0163_0001.jpg

How do you like it? Any problems?

Posted: 8/31/2010 7:25:04 AM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:

Iv been reading about the controlled feeding in the win. 70 and the locking bolt with the safety. What advantage does the rem. 700 have over the win. 70???? Any issues as far as the cartridge ever falling out when feeding on the move?

The new Model 70? Heck yeah. The Model 70 from 10 years ago? Not so much.

Posted: 8/31/2010 7:32:22 AM EDT

[#26]

AIM has a pretty sexy rebarreled Springfield 03A3 in a synthetic stock for $499.

Posted: 8/31/2010 7:36:25 AM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
AIM has a pretty sexy rebarreled Springfield 03A3 in a synthetic stock for $499.

Not C&R.

Posted: 8/31/2010 7:37:34 AM EDT

[#28]

70 always go with controled round feed and not push feed!

Posted: 8/31/2010 7:42:17 AM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:
Pre '64 Model 70, otherwise Rem 700.

This.

Posted: 8/31/2010 7:42:45 AM EDT

[#30]

I voted 700 but if I found a nice older Win 70 push feed / pre 64, then I would jump on that. Esp in 30-06, 308, 243

Posted: 8/31/2010 7:45:24 AM EDT

[#31]

If you haven't considered Tikka, you might want give them a look as well if you can find them. I got this one in .30-06 a couple weeks ago and put about 35 rounds through it so far. I headed to the range with 6 different boxes of factory ammo from 150, 165 and 180 grain, from Remington, Federal, Winchester and Prvi Partizan to see which one it liked best and it liked all of them. No kidding. All in a 1" group and better at 100 yards. The 150 hit about 1" higher than 180 and the 165 between them at dead on windage between them all. Never seen anything like it for an out of the box gun. Outstanding trigger that's easy to adjust, lightweight but suprisingly mild recoil and shoots like a $2,000 gun for 1/4 the price. Glass is a Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40 with Rapid Z 600 reticle.

Posted: 8/31/2010 7:46:04 AM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:
Neither. Get a CZ 550 way more rifle for the money than a rem or win. DO YOURSELF A BIG FAVOR AND CHECK THEM OUT

They are great guns, but I dislike the integrated scope bases.

Posted: 8/31/2010 7:46:40 AM EDT

[#33]

Model 70

Posted: 8/31/2010 7:48:18 AM EDT

[#34]

I have a Remington 700 BDL in .30-06 , my Dad has a Winchester M70 in 7mm Remington Mag. I really love both rifles. I killed my first deer with his rifle, long before I bought mine. I wouldnt have a problem with either one ,but my favorite of the 2 is my trust ole Remington .30-06. Good luck with whatever you choose.

A man's hunting rifle is closer to him than his dog or truck.

Posted: 8/31/2010 7:57:42 AM EDT

[#35]

I'm a fan of the Win 70, and hear the new ones a pretty nice. However, as others have already posted, if you want to customize the gun at all then go with a 700.

Posted: 8/31/2010 8:01:18 AM EDT

[#36]

For a standard dear rifle, I go with which ever is cheapest and has the features I want of savage, rem, win, ruger. All 4 will do the job.

Posted: 8/31/2010 8:03:44 AM EDT

[#37]

I own both, four Model 70s, and two 700s

they are both great rifles, but the pre-64 and the new FN built 70s are by far some of the slickest actions and in the case of the new FN built rifles, they group very well

FN built Model 70 Ultimate Shadow 308

1953 Model 70 pre-64 Featherweight 308

1937 Model 70 pre-64 30Gov't-06
1949 Model 70 pre-64 270WCF

Posted: 8/31/2010 8:05:50 AM EDT

[#38]

Remington 700.

Posted: 8/31/2010 8:36:02 AM EDT

[#39]

Of those two I'd take the 700 every time, but I prefer a Ruger 77.

Posted: 8/31/2010 8:37:03 AM EDT

[#40]

Savage 10FP. Best bolt gun for the money, bar none.

Posted: 8/31/2010 8:38:05 AM EDT

[#41]

I have two 700s, in .270 and 7mm STW. My Father bought both of them for me for various hunting expeditions. I've never found a shortcoming in them that would make me want to try a Winchester.

Posted: 8/31/2010 8:51:28 AM EDT

[#42]

700 all the way. More aftermarket, better construction. The new Japanese M70's aren't that impressive to me- Pre 64's are another story

Posted: 8/31/2010 8:56:34 AM EDT

[#43]

neither, get a savage

Posted: 8/31/2010 8:57:44 AM EDT

[#44]

I'm a Remington fan, but both are kickass rifles.

Posted: 8/31/2010 8:58:01 AM EDT

[#45]

Winchester all the way for a hunting rifle.

Three position safety FTW.

The problem asking here is the tacticool inclination of ARFCOM.

Asking on a predominately hunting board will be a different set of responses and reasons.

Posted: 8/31/2010 9:01:35 AM EDT

[#46]

Quoted:
700 all the way. More aftermarket, better construction. The new Japanese M70's aren't that impressive to me- Pre 64's are another story

I had no idea the FN factory in South Carolina where the new Model 70s are made only hired Japanese.

Learn something new every day.

Posted: 8/31/2010 9:05:44 AM EDT

[#47]

Remington 700.

No contest.

_MaH

Posted: 8/31/2010 9:16:36 AM EDT

[#48]

Quoted:
Iv been reading about the controlled feeding in the win. 70 and the locking bolt with the safety. What advantage does the rem. 700 have over the win. 70???? Any issues as far as the cartridge ever falling out when feeding on the move?

Controled Feed >>> broken remington POS extractors.

Ask yourself "why are there so many after-market fixes to the 700 to make it as reliable as the model 70 ?"

Posted: 8/31/2010 9:20:33 AM EDT

[#49]

I like Model 70s with the Mauser extracor a lot, and think they have a lot going for them over 700s. Extraction is much more sure; I have seen cases get jammed in the chamber with 700 type extractors, but never with a 70. There is just more metal grabbing the case. The 70s have a coned breech, which aids in feeding reliability. You can also chamber a round from the magazine while hanging upside down in a tree, which I admit is of somewhat limited utility.

The 70 trigger is simple and easy to adjust. The magazine holds one addtional round in non-magnum calibers. It has a 3 position safety, which allows you to unload a round in the chamber while the gun is on safe.

As far as the accuracy of the rifles, they are about equal in my experience. I guess the Remington trigger is a little faster, and the Winchester action is a little stiffer. The recoil lug on the Winchester makes the Remington's look like a joke. No wonder they replace the lugs on custom 700s. Both rifles used to be used in bench competitions quite frequently until the specialty actions came to dominate.

The Remington does have a lot more aftermarket support, but the Winchster is better than most other rifles in that regard.

One additional drawback to the 70 is that in 30-06 length actions the 70 action, because of the way the magazine is designed, is a little longer than the 700.

I will say that the during last few years they were making Model 70s in Connecticut (approximatley 2004 to 2006) the triggers were terrible. They were using cast parts which could not be adjusted properly to a reasonable weight. But that could be fixed easily enough with a Rifle Basix trigger, which is very nice. I understand the 70s they make now in South Carolina have an adjustable trigger, but I have no experience with it.

Model 70s are now made in FN's South Carolina factory, not Japan. They have hammer forged barrels.

FN and Winchester/Browning are owned by the same company.