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I would like to start my search with a thank you to all of the fanatical muslims that we have killed with this fine caliber. A caliber that was invented to kill fanatical, bamboo wrapped, drug induced Moro muslims in the Phillipine-American War. Without your idiotic drug laden suicide tactics, the .45, and the very 1911 itself may have never been invented.

Thank you.



Now that that's out of the way...

I think this is the sexiest version I have ever seen:



I'm leaning towards a Smith or a Sig because of the external extracter. It seems that it may be more reliable. I DO NOT want to get some jam-o-matic that needs to be massaged and tweaked to run properly.
To have a weapon fail on me repeatedly is unacceptable, and will cause me not to trust it, and therefore sell it.

...that being said, am I on the right track, or do I need to be looking at springfields and/or Colts?

If there was such an animal as a HK45 tactical, I would buy it immediately, because I'm about to start my stamp collection...but that appears to be a while off at best.
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Posted: 8/24/2010 9:43:46 PM
FWIW, I have two Dan Wessons and love them both. Bonded with the almost immediately.
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Posted: 8/24/2010 9:45:13 PM
have you tried a usp tac i really like mine it is 100 percent reliable!!!
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Posted: 8/24/2010 9:46:45 PM
Buy what you're going to buy, but Springfield always goes bang in my book.
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Posted: 8/24/2010 9:47:24 PM
I would probably still get the HK45 first. I really really want a Springfield TRP though, but it's a good bit more:



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Posted: 8/24/2010 9:49:00 PM
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Of all the 1911's I've seen, the external extractor versions have the most trouble.

Go with a custom 1911 and you'll be happy you did.



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Posted: 8/24/2010 9:49:01 PM
sounds like you know what you want. I would be happy with either. Might not have that many external extractor fans here.
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Posted: 8/24/2010 9:49:37 PM
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have you tried a usp tac i really like mine it is 100 percent reliable!!!


I really liked it, and it was on the top of my list until I held an HK45. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.
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Posted: 8/24/2010 9:49:55 PM
Approved list:

Springfield (mil spec and up)
STI (like bigfoot, I have never seen one in person, but hear a lot about them)
Dan Wesson (custom gun parts included at factory build prices)
anything custom from the big names if you have the money

-FWIW-I avoid the external extractor. I like a 1911 that's as standard in parts as possible.
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Posted: 8/24/2010 9:52:26 PM
Originally Posted By Alien:
I would probably still get the HK45 first. I really really want a Springfield TRP though, but it's a good bit more:

http://sgcusa.com/images/large/HK45_Right_Side_A.jpg
http://sgcusa.com/images/large/HK_45C_Right_Side_A.jpg
http://www.fastfirearms.com/images/products/detail/springfield_0210382.jpg


If it had a match trigger (I don't even know the difference honestly, but the overtravel screw is nifty), and threaded barrel like the USP tac, I would be all over it.
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Posted: 8/24/2010 9:54:00 PM
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FNP-45 Tactical 15+1 rounds of thug-wrecker



I have the standard model. Have thought of trading it in on the tactical model in black, but I don't really have any issues with it as it is, and besides I only paid $350 for it LNIB so I'd probably just buy a Tac model to go with it. FNH put some brains behind this thing. Some VERY good ergos for a monster high-cap.



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Posted: 8/24/2010 9:54:07 PM
Between the 1911 and the Sig...it depends...

If you're willing to spend a lot more, get the 1911.

If you want to get it done without spending nearly as much, go with the Sig.

That said, I have heard of extractor issues with the P220
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Posted: 8/24/2010 9:56:28 PM
Originally Posted By DanTSX:
FNP-45 Tactical 15+1 rounds of thug-wrecker
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b137/snpr1/fnh-fnp45.gif


I have the standard model. Have thought of trading it in on the tactical model in black, but I don't really have any issues with it as it is, and besides I only paid $350 for it LNIB so I'd probably just buy a Tac model to go with it. FNH put some brains behind this thing. Some VERY good ergos for a monster high-cap.




Molested one of those at the funshow this weekend, and although i wasn't crazy about the USP style meat tenderizer grips, I didn't rule it out.
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Posted: 8/24/2010 9:57:01 PM
I wanted a 1911, so I bought an XD 45. As I predicted, my wife confiscated it and put it in her night stand.

So now I have my 1911.
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Posted: 8/24/2010 9:59:41 PM

Originally Posted By distributor_of_pain:
I would like to start my search with a thank you to all of the fanatical muslims that we have killed with this fine caliber. A caliber that was invented to kill fanatical, bamboo wrapped, drug induced Moro muslims in the Phillipine-American War. Without your idiotic drug laden suicide tactics, the .45, and the very 1911 itself may have never been invented.

Thank you.



Now that that's out of the way...

I think this is the sexiest version I have ever seen:

http://guns4u.info/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/108287_large.jpg

I'm leaning towards a Smith or a Sig because of the external extracter. It seems that it may be more reliable. I DO NOT want to get some jam-o-matic that needs to be massaged and tweaked to run properly.
To have a weapon fail on me repeatedly is unacceptable, and will cause me not to trust it, and therefore sell it.

...that being said, am I on the right track, or do I need to be looking at springfields and/or Colts?

If there was such an animal as a HK45 tactical, I would buy it immediately, because I'm about to start my stamp collection...but that appears to be a while off at best.
I shot one of these at the S&W factory range and it the overall nicest 1911 I have shot. It makes you look like a hero it shoots so well, I'm going to get one

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Posted: 8/24/2010 9:59:57 PM
Originally Posted By theBUBBAMANcan:
Between the 1911 and the Sig...it depends...

If you're willing to spend a lot more, get the 1911.

If you want to get it done without spending nearly as much, go with the Sig.

That said, I have heard of extractor issues with the P220


I think he is talking about the Sig GSR, not the regular Sig pistols.

I haven't held too many 1911s, but the one that really struck me as an exceptional pistol was a Dan Wesson 1911, and the Springfield TRP. If I was to get another 1911, I would take a look at the custom names. If you don't mind spending the extra money, this is probably the best route, buy once, cry once.
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Originally Posted By azjeeper:
FWIW, I have two Dan Wessons and love them both. Bonded with the almost immediately.

My Dan Wesson is my favorite 1911, bar none. Fit, finish, accuracy and reliability are outstanding.
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I have a springfield, and an STI no problems with either.. I carry my springfield....
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Posted: 8/24/2010 10:11:49 PM
Originally Posted By chupacabras:

Originally Posted By azjeeper:
FWIW, I have two Dan Wessons and love them both. Bonded with the almost immediately.

My Dan Wesson is my favorite 1911, bar none. Fit, finish, accuracy and reliability are outstanding.


Another satisfied customer.
I've had my Springfield Mil spec for years and it has never let me down. The instant I got my hands on my DW, I knew the Springfield would be shelved, and it has been for the reasons mentioned above.
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Get an Ed Brown

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My daily carry is a HK45, one of the low serial number German models, I love it.
Supposedly you can get extended barrels from Scottsdale
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Posted: 8/24/2010 10:13:23 PM
Originally Posted By manderson1911:
I have a springfield, and an STI no problems with either.. I carry my springfield....


I actually like the springfield mil-spec a lot. About the least fancy model out there, but it looks good. I wouldn't mind roughing it up a bit either.
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Posted: 8/24/2010 10:14:23 PM
Originally Posted By azjeeper:
Originally Posted By chupacabras:

Originally Posted By azjeeper:
FWIW, I have two Dan Wessons and love them both. Bonded with the almost immediately.

My Dan Wesson is my favorite 1911, bar none. Fit, finish, accuracy and reliability are outstanding.


Another satisfied customer.
I've had my Springfield Mil spec for years and it has never let me down. The instant I got my hands on my DW, I knew the Springfield would be shelved, and it has been for the reasons mentioned above.



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I vote the Midsize M&P 45 ( stock number 109307 ), 10 rds of 45 ACP goodness in a package roughly the same size as my Glock 19.

Not as sexy as the 1911, but a damn fine pistol.

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That is one sexy sombitch.
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My daily carry is a HK45, one of the low serial number German models, I love it.
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Yeah...I thought about that, but...IDK. I would rather wait for the real deal with a match trigger. I think I've tried to fit too many square pegs into round holes, and I would sell it as soon as they came out with the real thing anyway.
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It is generally a good idea to get a 1911 with an internal extractor. The Springfield TRP is good to go right out of the box and leaves you lots of options for customization down the road (because you will customize it). I love the 1911 platform as much as anyone else and have carried one for duty, but I will also admit that it is 5 minutes to midnight for this gun. With the release of so many less-complicated, ergonomically-sound, reliable, and higher capacity .45's by so many makers, the 1911 is fast approaching the history books in the professional world. While nothing shoots like a 1911, 8-10 rounds in the mag and the religious maintenance schedule pale in comparison to some of the other offerings. For what it's worth, I now carry an M&P. But, I will always love and shoot 1911's.
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Posted: 8/24/2010 10:27:00 PM
Originally Posted By distributor_of_pain:
I would like to start my search with a thank you to all of the fanatical muslims that we have killed with this fine caliber. A caliber that was invented to kill fanatical, bamboo wrapped, drug induced Moro muslims in the Phillipine-American War. Without your idiotic drug laden suicide tactics, the .45, and the very 1911 itself may have never been invented.

Thank you.



Now that that's out of the way...

I think this is the sexiest version I have ever seen:

http://guns4u.info/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/108287_large.jpg

I'm leaning towards a Smith or a Sig because of the external extracter. It seems that it may be more reliable. I DO NOT want to get some jam-o-matic that needs to be massaged and tweaked to run properly.
To have a weapon fail on me repeatedly is unacceptable, and will cause me not to trust it, and therefore sell it.

...that being said, am I on the right track, or do I need to be looking at springfields and/or Colts?

If there was such an animal as a HK45 tactical, I would buy it immediately, because I'm about to start my stamp collection...but that appears to be a while off at best.


1911s DO NOT have external extractors, you dont fuck with the design handed down from God to the prophet JMB
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Posted: 8/24/2010 10:34:31 PM
Originally Posted By distributor_of_pain:
I would like to start my search with a thank you to all of the fanatical muslims that we have killed with this fine caliber.


There is irony in your post, because Muslim enemies are probably the LEAST likely to be killed than .45 ACP than any of our former or current enemies.

The war would have effectively been over by the time any 1911s would have made it to the field...

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There is irony in your post, because Muslim enemies are probably the LEAST likely to be killed than .45 ACP than any of our former or current enemies.

The war would have effectively been over by the time any 1911s would have made it to the field...


You do know why the 45 was originally adopted in the first place, correct?

Think... Phillipines.... Moros.... Pershing....

EDIT : reading your post again, maybe you do...
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Posted: 8/24/2010 10:48:28 PM
Sig GSR hands down. I own an Colt XSE, Springfield Loaded, Sig GSR. I have owned a Kimber TLE II. Without doubt the Sig is the finest fitted and most accurate of the four. The only bitch about the sig is the slide profile makes it more of a pain to find holsters for, but they're easy enough to order.
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Posted: 8/24/2010 10:49:54 PM
I am a big fan of the 1911's!
I'm not a big fan of the external extractor.





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Originally Posted By cmeyer001:
There is irony in your post, because Muslim enemies are probably the LEAST likely to be killed than .45 ACP than any of our former or current enemies.

The war would have effectively been over by the time any 1911s would have made it to the field...


You do know why the 45 was originally adopted in the first place, correct?

Think... Phillipines.... Moros.... Pershing....


Don't fall for myths... The timing is off. .45 Long Colt would have been the dominant .45 caliber handgun in the field. Since the service needed an autoloader, .45 ACP was under development roughly at the same time as the war. The Moro Rebellion would have been in the winding down phase well before any "Make a difference' quantiy of 1911s could have made it into the field.

Edit Reword:
.45 caliber (LC or ACP) were not developed due to the war, it's just the event that demonstrated that caliber .45 was clearly superior to small black powder cartridges, and this was due to LC.

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i like this one


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i like this one


<a href="http://img706.imageshack.us/i/springfieldoperator.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/6044/springfieldoperator.jpg</a>


I want that in all black.
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Originally Posted By DriftPunch:
Originally Posted By cmeyer001:
There is irony in your post, because Muslim enemies are probably the LEAST likely to be killed than .45 ACP than any of our former or current enemies.

The war would have effectively been over by the time any 1911s would have made it to the field...


You do know why the 45 was originally adopted in the first place, correct?

Think... Phillipines.... Moros.... Pershing....


Don't fall for myths... The timing is off. .45 Long Colt would have been the dominant .45 caliber handgun in the field. Since the service needed an autoloader, .45 ACP was under development roughly at the same time as the war. The Moro Rebellion would have been in the winding down phase well before any "Make a difference' quantiy of 1911s could have made it into the field.

Edit Reword:
.45 caliber (LC or ACP) were not developed due to the war, it's just the event that demonstrated that caliber .45 was clearly superior to small black powder cartridges, and this was due to LC.



Based on the experience with the Moros and extensive testing on animals and human cadavers, an Army Ordnance Board headed by Col. John T. Thompson (inventor of the Thompson sub-machine-gun) and Col. Louis A. La Garde, determined that the Army needed a .45 caliber cartridge to provide adequate stopping power.
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Ah, my .45s...ove my Colt Defender and my All German made Sig P220.

Neither have ever had a single failure.

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Posted: 8/24/2010 11:17:50 PM
Originally Posted By distributor_of_pain:

I think this is the sexiest version I have ever seen:

http://guns4u.info/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/108287_large.jpg


A local shop has one of those in stock , it is used but looks great.
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If you're buying on a budget, the Springfield line has never let me down.

If you buy a 1911 with an external extractor, I'll fucking spank you.
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A lot of it depends on if you are planning on carrying it. The HK/FN variety are pretty bulky. 1911's are pretty svelte and though heavy, that can be dealt with with a good holster, belt and maybe an alloy frame. If it's HD weapon I would pick high cap with a rail for a light.

I've had 8 1911's and kept two. One is an SA compact that took three trips back to the factory to run right but is now perfect. Which speaks well for SA's service since a mass produced 1911 is hit or miss. The other is an old ugly nickel Combat Commander that was modded by Kings (Used to be the schniz in 1911 mods I hear) that I picked up for a song and will cycle spent shells. Prolly the last gun I would ever sell since a 100% reliable 1911 with a great trigger is just too fun.

If I was to get another, I would go custom. Keep in mind there is nothing really "custom" about modern custom 1911's... It's just the way they were meant to be built; forged and machined parts, assembled and fitted by hand to make sure they run right.
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Posted: 8/24/2010 11:43:24 PM
I like my Smith & Wesson 1911 TFP. It gets rid of the firing pin safety. It is also made of Stainless steel with a Melonite coating. The SKU is 108309. Good luck with your new toy.
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Posted: 8/24/2010 11:50:39 PM
Originally Posted By Evil_ATF:
If you're buying on a budget, the Springfield line has never let me down.

If you buy a 1911 with an external extractor, I'll fucking spank you.


lol. Is it really that forbidden? They had to add it for a reason right?
All the Smith and Sig guys seem to never have a problem with their factory direct 1911's, but I hear hit and miss stories about all the others.

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Originally Posted By distributor_of_pain:

I think this is the sexiest version I have ever seen:

http://guns4u.info/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/108287_large.jpg


A local shop has one of those in stock , it is used but looks great.


How much?
Not that I would buy it of course
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Posted: 8/24/2010 11:52:42 PM

Originally Posted By TNVC_Clasky:
It is generally a good idea to get a 1911 with an internal extractor. The Springfield TRP is good to go right out of the box and leaves you lots of options for customization down the road (because you will customize it). I love the 1911 platform as much as anyone else and have carried one for duty, but I will also admit that it is 5 minutes to midnight for this gun. With the release of so many less-complicated, ergonomically-sound, reliable, and higher capacity .45's by so many makers, the 1911 is fast approaching the history books in the professional world. While nothing shoots like a 1911, 8-10 rounds in the mag and the religious maintenance schedule pale in comparison to some of the other offerings. For what it's worth, I now carry an M&P. But, I will always love and shoot 1911's.

This. I feel nostalgia has had alot to do with it, and I've had a couple 1911's in my day.
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