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danbaum Member Joined: Mar 2010  CO, USA Posts: 3 Feedback: 0% (0)

Posted: 8/18/2010 1:06:32 PM THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT For a book that I am writing, I am interested in meeting/interviewing people who cache weapons. To get a sense of who I am and where I come from, look at www.danbaum.com, and also see the August issue of Harper's magazine, where I wrote a piece about concealed carry. If you're interested in talking to me, please email danbaum@me.com. Thank you.

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tc2k11 Member Joined: Jun 2008  MEX Posts: 6283 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/18/2010 1:07:11 PM Does a .38 and 10/22 count as a cache?
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danbaum Member Joined: Mar 2010  CO, USA Posts: 4 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/18/2010 1:08:49 PM Yes, if you've buried them with the idea that they might either be confiscated down the road, or needed in a SHTF emergency.
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xdoctor The Armed Bard. Team Member Joined: Apr 2004  WY, USA Posts: 6712 Feedback: 100% (4) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/18/2010 1:10:58 PM Originally Posted By danbaum: Yes, if you've buried them with the idea that they might either be confiscated down the road, or needed in a SHTF emergency. I've always been of the mind that if its time to bury them, its time to use them. But if you bury them anyway, you certainly don't talk about it.
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tc2k11 Member Joined: Jun 2008  MEX Posts: 6284 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/18/2010 1:11:51 PM Originally Posted By danbaum: Yes, if you've buried them with the idea that they might either be confiscated down the road, or needed in a SHTF emergency. Why would I bury the only guns I have? If things ever come to confiscation and SHTF, I'll just use my .38 to fight my way to some criminal's rifle and take that from them.
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Posted: 8/18/2010 1:13:46 PM If it's time to cache weapons, it's time to use them. Maybe you should write the tale about the guy that buried his guns in a safe undeveloped place only to come back to find a ginormous shopping center on top. (Substitute dirt or gravel pile, house, highway, etc. as it suits you.) Do you know how to find where the guns are buried in Canadian gardens? Look for the spot where old engine oil is dumped.

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TheJacket Member Team Member Joined: Mar 2010  ID, USA Posts: 768 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/18/2010 1:15:31 PM Originally Posted By VRMN8R: Sadly, my guns are buried at the the bottom of the lake in my tragic boating accident. http://home.nps.gov/applications/photos/GLCA%20-%202009-10-21%20-%20Sinking%20Boat.jpg Same
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Jarhead08 Member Joined: Mar 2010  MO, USA Posts: 1289 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/18/2010 1:17:17 PM Mine are cached at the Fortress of Solitude.
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Posted: 8/18/2010 1:17:24 PM Do the cached weapons have to have firing pins that have been filed down? If so I guess I'm out. As long as you don't need coords I'm up for chatting about the many guns that I've burried. I find it best to put a bunch of used car parts over the cache...rotors, engine blocks, etc...that way when they come to look for them, they dig down and find rusty car parts and give up.

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ex_dsmr Member Joined: Sep 2009  TX, USA Posts: 1903 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/18/2010 1:18:38 PM You guys have guns? But-but, those are DANGEROUS!
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Posted: 8/18/2010 1:19:44 PM [Last Edit: 8/20/2010 11:03:24 PM by Furious] Originally Posted By VRMN8R: Sadly, my guns are buried at the the bottom of the lake in my tragic boating accident. http://home.nps.gov/applications/photos/GLCA%20-%202009-10-21%20-%20Sinking%20Boat.jpg You too? I was actually using my boat to transport all of my weapons to the cache location when tragedy struck. Now all I have is a broken .22 bolt action. To the OP for asking people about hiding their guns.........

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Sumo Member Joined: Nov 2002  VA, USA Posts: 1643 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/18/2010 1:20:26 PM I would suggest that everyone read the other gun articles written by Mr. Baum before deciding whether or not to speak with him. http://www.danbaum.com/Nine_Lives/Our_Gun_Thing/Our_Gun_Thing.html
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Posted: 8/18/2010 1:22:05 PM [Last Edit: 8/18/2010 3:17:05 PM by Diger440] OP, I think the response that you are most likely to get will be "#1 - The first rule of Fight Club is, you do not talk about Fight Club. #2 - The second rule of Fight Club is, you DO NOT talk about Fight Club." Good luck to your book writing endeavor, Look at the question you are asking and who you are asking it of... ETA: after reading your blog posts, go excrete your fail elsewhere

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Furious 1/2 deaf, 1/4 blind and 100% illiterate Team Member Joined: Nov 2006  GA, USA Posts: 2850 Feedback: 100% (29) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/18/2010 1:23:32 PM Almost forgot In on ONE because.....
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Angelshare1 Member Team Member Joined: Jul 2006  MN, USA Posts: 6004 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/18/2010 1:27:15 PM What do you mean by caching? To folks who own more than 20 firearms, caching means burrying them for WWIII. To folks who down own any, caching means owning more than one.
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MACD Member Team Member Joined: Jun 2006  TX, USA Posts: 11181 Feedback: 100% (40) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/18/2010 1:28:56 PM Originally Posted By Sumo: I would suggest that everyone read the other gun articles written by Mr. Baum before deciding whether or not to speak with him. http://www.danbaum.com/Nine_Lives/Our_Gun_Thing/Our_Gun_Thing.html No thanks.
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Stonerriflefan44 Member Team Member Joined: Feb 2006  NV, USA Posts: 9337 Feedback: 100% (14) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/18/2010 1:29:58 PM Everytime I try to cache a weapon I get a fatal error message
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dedfella hopelessly hopeful Team Member Joined: Oct 2005  MS, USA Posts: 18042 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/18/2010 1:32:11 PM Just took a quick jaunt through this guy's "material" as linked above. My opinion could be construed as a CoC violation. I wouldn't tell him my favorite flavor of ice cream.
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Posted: 8/18/2010 1:34:42 PM Originally Posted By TheJacket: Originally Posted By VRMN8R: Sadly, my guns are buried at the the bottom of the lake in my tragic boating accident. http://home.nps.gov/applications/photos/GLCA%20-%202009-10-21%20-%20Sinking%20Boat.jpg Same I see that very same brand of boat on here a lot. Please tell me who makes so I don't buy one and have it sink on me. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile

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tc2k11 Member Joined: Jun 2008  MEX Posts: 6285 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/18/2010 1:40:09 PM Originally Posted By Sumo: I would suggest that everyone read the other gun articles written by Mr. Baum before deciding whether or not to speak with him. http://www.danbaum.com/Nine_Lives/Our_Gun_Thing/Our_Gun_Thing.html Some people might not have a problem talking with Mr. Baum, but who is this "danbaum@me.com" character?
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showmeballer Big White Team Member Joined: May 2008  MO, USA Posts: 3096 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/18/2010 1:40:52 PM [Last Edit: 8/18/2010 1:59:25 PM by showmeballer] Might as well get it on one. ETA: Nice hat Dan
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danbaum Member Joined: Mar 2010  CO, USA Posts: 5 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/18/2010 1:41:38 PM Ah, I should have clarified: 1. By caching I mean burying, against the contingency of either confiscation or social breakdown. 2. I can mask the person's identity and location. 3. I really don't need any paranoid dickheads accusing me of being an ATF agent. You don't want to deal with me, fine. But hold off on the insults. Let's be gentlemen.
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ar154all Member Team Member Joined: Nov 2004  USA Posts: 2147 Feedback: 100% (22) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/18/2010 1:42:42 PM Why woould anyone burry a gun? The dirt will make it icky
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Byrd-Shooter Sheep Dog Team Member Joined: Nov 2007  SC, USA Posts: 2577 Feedback: 100% (19) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/18/2010 1:43:09 PM Originally Posted By dedfella: Just took a quick jaunt through this guy's "material" as linked above. My opinion could be construed as a CoC violation. I wouldn't tell him my favorite flavor of ice cream. This People like this are in no way Pro 2A, regardless of whether or not they try and convince us that they are on our side because they 'hunt'
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Posted: 8/18/2010 1:44:54 PM Originally Posted By VRMN8R: Sadly, my guns are buried at the the bottom of the lake in my tragic boating accident. http://home.nps.gov/applications/photos/GLCA%20-%202009-10-21%20-%20Sinking%20Boat.jpg I am so very sorry for your loss. Strangely this is the exact same thing that happened to me. I blame drunken senators from Massachusetts..whoops he's still dead. But he would if he coulda!

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Meadowmuffin Member Team Member Joined: Oct 2007  TX, USA Posts: 6960 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/18/2010 1:45:14 PM Grow thicker skin Dan. Your a newbee.
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divkat9 Member Joined: Mar 2004  NC, USA Posts: 2035 Feedback: 100% (15) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/18/2010 1:49:16 PM Originally Posted By JCKnife: Might I suggest an avatar for your pending team membership? http://www.ammoland.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/Logos/ATF-Logo.gif
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dedfella hopelessly hopeful Team Member Joined: Oct 2005  MS, USA Posts: 18043 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/18/2010 1:49:33 PM He isn't an ATF agent. He is a self titled "Liberal Democrat" who states that Sarah Brady has the right to "regulate...the community of gun owners"
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larkinmusic Member Team Member Joined: Nov 2005  OK, USA Posts: 8936 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/18/2010 1:50:00 PM Originally Posted By Sumo: I would suggest that everyone read the other gun articles written by Mr. Baum before deciding whether or not to speak with him. http://www.danbaum.com/Nine_Lives/Our_Gun_Thing/Our_Gun_Thing.html Guns are icky Mr. Baum. None of us would ever own or even touch one, this site is just a big joke.
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sebois Resist Obamunism. Team Member Joined: Nov 2008  ME, USA Posts: 1694 Feedback: 100% (5) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/18/2010 1:50:13 PM Originally Posted By Sumo: I would suggest that everyone read the other gun articles written by Mr. Baum before deciding whether or not to speak with him. http://www.danbaum.com/Nine_Lives/Our_Gun_Thing/Our_Gun_Thing.html Excellent advice. After reading some of his articles I am left with a slight aftertaste.
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LuvBUSHmaster ESTO VIR "Be a Man" Team Member Joined: Oct 2005  NY, USA Posts: 9461 Feedback: 100% (30) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/18/2010 1:51:48 PM Nice try. But seriously, I suspect your real reasons for being here are less than noble.
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Posted: 8/18/2010 1:51:53 PM The weapons at this Denver show seem to have been designed by Klingons. Many are short, black, high-tech semi-automatics—ARs in the jargon—the civilian version of the rifles American soldiers carry in Iraq and Afghanistan. They fire a bullet unsuitable for most hunting, and are crusted with combat-ready lasers, flashlights, night-vision scopes, and red-dot sights. They start at around a thousand dollars. The tables that don’t cater to the AR crowd hold other modern man-killers: rough-finished Yugoslav AK-47’s for three hundred dollars apiece; Barrett .50-caliber rifles capable of penetrating an armored limousine; brand-new stainless-steel semi-automatic pistols with fifteen-shot clips selling for upwards of eight hundred dollars; tinny chrome-plated pocket pistols for less than a hundred bucks. There’s also plenty of body armor, web gear, combat fatigues, bayonets, silencers, stacks of thirty- and fifty-round magazines. It feels less like a “show” than an arms bazaar in Peshawar. How are you going to portray the people who cached weapons? and did Garand make a pistol?

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30calslut Will Ho for Ammo Team Member Joined: Feb 2004  USA Posts: 2078 Feedback: 100% (9) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/18/2010 1:51:55 PM http://thetruthaboutguns.com/2010/07/robert-farago/harpers-magazine-writer-ticked-off-at-ttag/
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Posted: 8/18/2010 1:52:21 PM From his site: It’s a mystery to me why the gun-control community has allowed their opponents to walk off with the Second Amendment. If the amendment guarantees an individual right to own a gun, it also confers a right to regulate gun ownership. It’s right the text: “...a well-regulated militia....” Even accepting the gun enthusiasts’ definition of the militia as the broad community of armed citizens, it seems clear that the Second Amendment not only allows but requires regulation. Put another way, Sarah Brady has Second Amendment rights too: the right to have the militia –– the community of armed citizens –– well regulated. Why is she –– and the rest of the country that wants tighter restrictions on guns –– not making a Second Amendment case? and As for a non-paranoid, non-right-wing gun culture, yes! I’m on a six-week road trip this summer around the Midwest interviewing people about their gun lives for a book I’m writing, and finding that most gun people I meet are neither. It’s the paranoid and the politically motivated who hog the spotlight and the airwaves, but it seems there is a — dare I say it? — silent majority. Free clue: you'll be slotted into the "paranoid, right-wing, politically motivated" category when he writes this up.

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Posted: 8/18/2010 1:52:52 PM Originally Posted By danbaum: Ah, I should have clarified: 1. By caching I mean burying, against the contingency of either confiscation or social breakdown. 2. I can mask the person's identity and location. 3. I really don't need any paranoid dickheads accusing me of being an ATF agent. You don't want to deal with me, fine. But hold off on the insults. Let's be gentlemen. You want us to be gentlemen and you call us dickheads? Really? Really?

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Posted: 8/18/2010 1:54:29 PM Originally Posted By sebois: Originally Posted By Sumo: I would suggest that everyone read the other gun articles written by Mr. Baum before deciding whether or not to speak with him. http://www.danbaum.com/Nine_Lives/Our_Gun_Thing/Our_Gun_Thing.html Excellent advice. After reading some of his articles I am left with a slight aftertaste. Hmmm, "Gentlemen" do not refer to one another as dickheads. Unless of course , you are .

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VRMN8R Member Team Member Joined: Dec 2005  NE, USA Posts: 3716 Feedback: 100% (14) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/18/2010 1:54:54 PM [Last Edit: 8/18/2010 1:59:27 PM by VRMN8R] Originally Posted By dedfella: Just took a quick jaunt through this guy's "material" as linked above. My opinion could be construed as a CoC violation. I wouldn't tell him my favorite flavor of ice cream. Gunpowder and sulfur? Oh fuck it, I had a long reply typed but I decided to delete it. I like my membership here.
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Posted: 8/18/2010 1:55:38 PM Originally Posted By danbaum: Ah, I should have clarified: 1. By caching I mean burying, against the contingency of either confiscation or social breakdown. 2. I can mask the person's identity and location. 3. I really don't need any paranoid dickheads accusing me of being an ATF agent. You don't want to deal with me, fine. But hold off on the insults. Let's be gentlemen.

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