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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:13:34 AM EDT
[#1]
What type of nuke, and how is it deployed?
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:13:39 AM EDT
[#2]
Obama pledges $20 million to build a Mosque on ground zero.
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:13:46 AM EDT
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Thought exercise, begin.
We are at war with the Taww-leee-bawhn (obama speaking). They decide to set off a nuclear bomb in a U.S. city (Let's say Kileen, Texas, just for the experiment). Go. Go where and do what to whom? Yeah, we could nuke Afghanistan and kill a few bad guys and a whole bunch of civies but in the end, I doubt it would be worth it. |
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:13:48 AM EDT
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There is no suspicion of terrorist activity at this time.
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:14:25 AM EDT
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There is no suspicion of terrorist activity at this time. "We are not sure what happened, but we are sure this was not related to terrorism." |
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:15:20 AM EDT
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There is no suspicion of terrorist activity at this time. And even if there is, see the quote above. 
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:15:54 AM EDT
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someone on arfcom would post the pmags gif
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:16:11 AM EDT
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There is no suspicion of terrorist activity at this time. "We are not sure what happened, but we are sure this was not related to terrorism." Absolutely, this is definitely a criminal act. |
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:16:25 AM EDT
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The MSM will blame "Bush".
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:16:43 AM EDT
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My thought is that you would be better off going to the gym today and getting a work out, unless you are going for 10,000 postings.
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:16:57 AM EDT
[#11]
Kileen Texas?
Would anybody even notice? 
ETA: Oh, Fort Hood. Why didn't you say so? If we had a president, Iran and North Korea would be dust. If we had a president. |
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:17:00 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: There is no suspicion of terrorist activity at this time. "We are not sure what happened, but we are sure this was not related to terrorism." |
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:17:54 AM EDT
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Obama apologizes to the Taliban for having to endure the Texas heat and has Holder sue Killeen for provoking the muslims.
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:18:10 AM EDT
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Isolated incident. Bush's fault.
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:18:33 AM EDT
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What has happened with all of the other terrorist attacks to which we have been subjected since President Bush left office?
A fuddled up investigation, no choice but to Mirandize and process those who happen to be dumb enough to get caught in the civil court system, no enhanced interrogation program any more, so we won't (as in the case of the underwear bomber) learn anything of value or at least not until it's too late. So, pretty much nothing would happen...except we'd have a 2nd black eye to go with the Twin Towers. Oh, wait, I know: "we'll be very angry and we'll send them a letter telling them how angry we are". The idea is to PREVENT these things from happening. |
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:18:55 AM EDT
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Is an enemy's use of an atomic weapon on a small city on US soil understandable or deplorable?
The Hiroshima thread got me thinking. |
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:19:21 AM EDT
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There is no suspicion of terrorist activity at this time. "We are not sure what happened, but we are sure this was not related to terrorism." "We think some kind of natural gas explosion occured and it was definitely the fault of the Bush administration." |
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:19:52 AM EDT
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Quoted: Kileen Texas? Would anybody even notice? Population 33K Hiroshima: 30k Closest comparison I could make, though Kileen has much more military value. |
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:20:01 AM EDT
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Is an enemy's use of an atomic weapon on a small city on US soil understandable or deplorable? The Hiroshima thread got me thinking. The fact that you even ask that question makes me wonder about YOU.
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:21:47 AM EDT
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Ok, I'll bite.
1. A nuke goes off in a major city. I do not live in a major city, therefore I survive. 2. I go to arfcom GD and lurk. I also go to liveleak and wait for someone to post the inevitable film footage. 3. ??? 4. Profit! |
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:21:56 AM EDT
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Is an enemy's use of an atomic weapon on a small city on US soil understandable or deplorable? The Hiroshima thread got me thinking. Aaaaahh...that's where we're taking this... Where's that darn popcorn smiley when you need it... |
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:22:42 AM EDT
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Kileen Texas? Yeah - I'm confused about that too.  If the Taliban or Al Qaeda got their filthy hands on a nuke, they'd go for either Washington D.C. or New York. Failing that, I'm guessing L.A.
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:24:38 AM EDT
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Obama pledges $20 million to build a Mosque on ground zero. ... why do my expectations find this plausible? |
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:25:17 AM EDT
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Really, how is this different than 9/11? If I had been president, any country known to be harboring terrorists would be a glass parking lot within the week.
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:25:52 AM EDT
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Janet Napolitano - "Our preliminary working theory is that this man caused disaster was a result of Tea Party radicals or disenchanted war veterans."
AG Holder - "We are investigating to determine if Governor Jan Brewer was behind this attack on Texas Hispanics....." Dateline TV Show - "Atomic blast in Texas, minorities hit hardest." Six Months pass..... Nancy Pelosi - "The solution to the problem of man caused nucleur disasters, as happened in Killeen Texas, is to ban math and physics classes at state universities and increase minority college enrollment." |
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:25:53 AM EDT
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Kileen Texas? Yeah - I'm confused about that too. If the Taliban or Al Qaeda got their filthy hands on a nuke, they'd go for either Washington D.C. or New York. Failing that, I'm guessing L.A.
The OP is trying to make the case that the Taliban are as justified in nuking Kileen, Texas as the US was justified in nuking Hiroshima. In which, he is full of crap. 
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:26:01 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Is an enemy's use of an atomic weapon on a small city on US soil understandable or deplorable? The Hiroshima thread got me thinking. The fact that you even ask that question makes me wonder about YOU. Calm down angry face. It's just a thought exercise. We are glad that we won the war, we argue that we "had to" do it to save more lives, etc. I agree with these sentiments. Doesn't hurt to ponder the opposite, and explore your mind a bit. |
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:27:13 AM EDT
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Quoted: I'd start my own war. I've got family in Killeen. Thought exercise, begin. We are at war with the Taww-leee-bawhn (obama speaking). They decide to set off a nuclear bomb in a U.S. city (Let's say Kileen, Texas, just for the experiment). Go. 
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:27:30 AM EDT
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Quoted: The OP is trying to make the case that the Taliban are as justified in nuking Kileen, Texas as the US was justified in nuking Hiroshima. In which, he is full of crap. Uhhh, NO I AM FUCKING NOT. I am merely using my god-given brain to think about things. Edit: Also, it doesn't have to be the Taliban. Say we are in ANY war against ANY enemy. They bomb a city, comprised of civilians and/or military targets. Are they deplorable, or are they doing "anything to win the war?" |
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:30:36 AM EDT
[#30]
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Obama pledges $20 million to build a Mosque on ground zero. I'm ok with a mosque at a nuc ground zero. 
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:31:46 AM EDT
[#31]
6 month stoppage on all trucking in and out of the state. because that's surely how the "man made disaster" happened.
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:32:59 AM EDT
[#32]
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The OP is trying to make the case that the Taliban are as justified in nuking Kileen, Texas as the US was justified in nuking Hiroshima. In which, he is full of crap. Uhhh, NO I AM FUCKING NOT. I am merely using my god-given brain to think about things. Edit: Also, it doesn't have to be the Taliban. Say we are in ANY war against ANY enemy. They bomb a city, comprised of civilians and/or military targets. Are they deplorable, or are they doing "anything to win the war?" You are comparing apples to pizzas. The Japanese Empire attacked the United States. After massive casualties, when any sane nation would have surrendered, we used nuclear weapons to end the war. NOT a terrorist attack. Comparing that to a terrorist using a nuclear weapon on US soil is simply bullshit. NOT a "thought exercise". |
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:33:42 AM EDT
[#33]
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Thought exercise, begin.
We are at war with the Taww-leee-bawhn (obama speaking). They decide to set off a nuclear bomb in a U.S. city (Let's say Kileen, Texas, just for the experiment). Go. Go where and do what to whom? Yeah, we could nuke Afghanistan and kill a few bad guys and a whole bunch of civies but in the end, I doubt it would be worth it. It would make us more enemies. WE should hold every single person in this administration and congress accountable for their complete lack of National Defense. |
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:34:29 AM EDT
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What have happened with all of the other terrorist attacks to which we have been subjected since President Bush left office? A fuddled up investigation, no choice but to Mirandize and process those who happen to be dumb enough to get caught in the civil court system, no enhanced interrogation program any more, so we won't (as in the case of the underwear bomber) learn anything of value or at least not until it's too late. So, pretty much nothing would happen...except we'd have a 2nd black eye to go with the Twin Towers. Oh, wait, I know: "we'll be very angry and we'll send them a letter telling them how angry we are". The idea is to PREVENT these things from happening. We'll send SOS Clinton on a friendship mission to muslim nations with luggage packed neatly with stacks of engraved relief pictures of Benjamin Franklin? I'm noticing that our 'expectations' for any kind of retaliatory military action are rather muted... |
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:35:30 AM EDT
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"Let me be clear..."
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:35:41 AM EDT
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Hope the wind isn't blowing north that day.
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:35:46 AM EDT
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Quoted: Thought exercise, begin. We are at war with the Taww-leee-bawhn (obama speaking). They decide to set off a nuclear bomb in a U.S. city (Let's say Kileen, Texas, just for the experiment). Go. 1. Initial suspicion falls on anti-government "Tea Party" haters. 2. Government begins crack-down on intolerant hate speech by "Tea Party" haters / Republicans. 3. When its discovered it was a mis-understander of the ROP, it is an isolated incident that illustrates how bush, Republicans and Tea Party haters have driven the poor, disadvantaged, repressed ROPers to desperate measures. 4. Obama apologizes and pledges a gazillion dollars to the Muslim world paid for by the seized assets of Bush, Republicans and Tea Party Haters. Pelosi puts on a burka. 5. Progressives insist that Amerikkka redeem itself by destroying itself through national suicide (repeal the hater, racist Constitution; adopt Islam and Sharia law; surrender all "war criminals" to the Taliban and AQ, etc.). 6. OBL is inaugurated first Caliph of the Emirate of the Land Between the Two Oceans and beheads BHO, Pelosi and Reid on the steps of the Grand Mosque (formerly the Capitol). |
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:36:43 AM EDT
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First, it would be NYC or Washington DC, maybe Chicago, LA or SF. This is why the Air and Space Museum and other museums along the Washington Mall need to be moved. Moved to San Antonio.
Second, lots of democrats would become Republicans for a few weeks. Third, if the Cretin in Chief is still president he would surrender to those he so much loves and admires, the moslems. Forth, if a Republican is president then the press would blame him, rejoice for the attack against the America they hate so much and sob because Obunghole is no longer president. Fifth, US response depends on who is president and who is the majority in congress, that and the mood of The Great Unwashed. |
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:37:29 AM EDT
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Kileen Texas? Would anybody even notice?
Population 33K Hiroshima: 30k Closest comparison I could make, though Kileen has much more military value. So, moral relativitism, huh? |
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:37:40 AM EDT
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I suppose it's a great way to see how a couple of HBCTs would perform in Afghanistan. Hell, let's throw in 3rd ACRin there too.
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:38:25 AM EDT
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0bumer would apologize and says its "America's fault" and will
push for reparations... |
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:38:25 AM EDT
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Quoted: The Japanese Empire attacked the United States. After massive casualties, when any sane nation would have surrendered, we used nuclear weapons to end the war. NOT a terrorist attack. Comparing that to a terrorist using a nuclear weapon on US soil is simply bullshit. NOT a "thought exercise". Like I said, replace Taliban with any Enemy of the US in ANY war. I only used them, because we actually ARE at war with them right now. But think larger, think of the future.... There WILL be more wars. Someday, a country will match up against us in a scenario JUST like the one you have laid out above in the quote box. What then? |
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:39:16 AM EDT
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Obama would probably just deliver another speech in Ciaro...
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:39:35 AM EDT
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Are they deplorable, or are they doing "anything to win the war?" They're both. |
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:39:41 AM EDT
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The OP is trying to make the case that the Taliban are as justified in nuking Kileen, Texas as the US was justified in nuking Hiroshima. In which, he is full of crap. Uhhh, NO I AM FUCKING NOT. I am merely using my god-given brain to think about things. Edit: Also, it doesn't have to be the Taliban. Say we are in ANY war against ANY enemy. They bomb a city, comprised of civilians and/or military targets. Are they deplorable, or are they doing "anything to win the war?" You are comparing apples to pizzas. The Japanese Empire attacked the United States. After massive casualties, when any sane nation would have surrendered, we used nuclear weapons to end the war. NOT a terrorist attack. Comparing that to a terrorist using a nuclear weapon on US soil is simply bullshit. NOT a "thought exercise". Nah, he's a "free thinker", much smarter than the rest of us.
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:40:05 AM EDT
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I might look up where all the mosques are in my local area.
Just to avoid them, you know. |
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:40:45 AM EDT
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where's the poll for which town we would like to see go first?
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:41:25 AM EDT
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The Japanese Empire attacked the United States. After massive casualties, when any sane nation would have surrendered, we used nuclear weapons to end the war. NOT a terrorist attack. Comparing that to a terrorist using a nuclear weapon on US soil is simply bullshit. NOT a "thought exercise". Like I said, replace Taliban with any Enemy of the US in ANY war. I only used them, because we actually ARE at war with them right now. But think larger, think of the future.... There WILL be more wars. Someday, a country will match up against us in a scenario JUST like the one you have laid out above in the quote box. What then? We fucking pave them in green glass. |
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:42:15 AM EDT
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Thought exercise, begin.
We are at war with the Taww-leee-bawhn (obama speaking). They decide to set off a nuclear bomb in a U.S. city (Let's say Kileen, Texas, just for the experiment). Go. Go where and do what to whom? Yeah, we could nuke Afghanistan and kill a few bad guys and a whole bunch of civies but in the end, I doubt it would be worth it. It would make us more enemies. WE should hold every single person in this administration and congress accountable for their complete lack of National Defense. Oh good grief. I hate that shit. Hey, we created kamikazes by responding to the attack on Pearl Harbor, so I guess we shouldn't have responded. I do agree that nuking anyone would matter as we would be killing a lot of people who had nothing to do with the attack. |
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Posted: 8/8/2010 10:44:40 AM EDT
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Quoted: So, moral relativitism, huh? I guess... Mainly, when I hear people question OUR use of the atomic bomb, my first reaction (like many of you) is to say, "Of course we used them. We HAD to! This is AMERICA! We HAD to do whatever we could to win." That got me thinking... Well, shit... Every group of people or ever nation, must feel the same way. If it happened here, though, I'm sure we'd all be calling them cowards or civilian murderers. Which would be totally hypocritical. I think, in this case, it is acceptable to BE hypocritical. We gotta win. Period. But we're not the only ones that think that way. |
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