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Link Posted: 8/4/2010 4:58:45 PM EDT







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Link Posted: 8/4/2010 5:02:13 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/4/2010 5:04:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jcncc:
Truly a aircraft from the muscle car era.

That's a great way to articulate it!

Always been my favorite plane...
Link Posted: 8/4/2010 5:12:44 PM EDT
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=30.076201,-85.570208&spn=0.002623,0.006866&t=h&z=18http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=30.038799,-85.530359&spn=0.001312,0.003433&t=h&z=19

Tyndall AFB target drones on Google Earth

Link Posted: 8/4/2010 5:14:48 PM EDT










Link Posted: 8/4/2010 5:15:09 PM EDT

they just don't build em in these numbers anymore
Link Posted: 8/4/2010 6:41:19 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/4/2010 7:02:45 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/4/2010 7:03:34 PM EDT


freakin F-15 pilots

Link Posted: 8/4/2010 7:40:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Chokey:


freakin F-15 pilots





Ha ha. He's just a bit off!
Link Posted: 8/4/2010 10:41:57 PM EDT
I grew up in St. Louis and had some family that worked at MDD and got to see the last ccouple they made and the first couple of F-15's. I used to go out to the end of the runway and watch the Missouri ANG fly them.

My uncle used to say every F-4 took off with two in flight emergencies, it was out of gas and on fire.
Link Posted: 8/4/2010 10:51:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/6/2010 6:26:08 PM EDT by HommieDaKlown]
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Link Posted: 8/4/2010 11:02:40 PM EDT
Why not?



Spangdahlem AB, '87-'89

F-4G

Instruments/Autopilot (and later cut trained into Inertial Nav Sys)

Cussed it back then, love it now.
Link Posted: 8/4/2010 11:25:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/4/2010 11:26:04 PM EDT by Moose]
Originally Posted By Moose:
The F15 is a beautiful aircraft (it's one of my favorites), but the F4 just screams "I'm gonna fuck you up."

*Exception is made for a fully loaded Strike Eagle.


I looked on Wiki for a pic to illustrate how badass a Strike Eagle is and I found this pic there.

Link Posted: 8/4/2010 11:31:07 PM EDT
Saw one fly over Ann Arbor this past weekend. Must have been out of Selfridge. He was flying solo, low and fast.
Link Posted: 8/5/2010 12:24:16 AM EDT
One of my favorites.

Keep the pics coming!
Link Posted: 8/5/2010 12:33:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DzlBenz:
A friend of mine took this photo over the weekend. He was flying back-seat in the Heritage Flight F-15CE over Oshkosh, out of Rockford, IL.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/DzlBenz/40412_150689711608101_1000000121966.jpg

This particular Phantom has an interesting history. 71-0237 was the first F-4E to be built with leading edge slats. After the test and evaluation, all F-4Es (except the ones flown by the Thunderbirds) we retrofitted with slats. This is a Block 48 jet, the first block to receive the TISEO pod, which is still fitted to the plane today.


Edit: Derp.

Your friend......is an asshole.


Link Posted: 8/5/2010 12:35:49 AM EDT
Sometimes they'd drop down on bombing runs and we'd be there with dozens of helicopters. They'd start weaving through our formations until they found a hole in the sky above them and head back up.The closest pass I had with an F4 full of bombs was in the range of 200 feet. At those speeds it was the blink of an eye. It's amazing how much can happen in the blink of an eye.

We were under some B-52's during an Arclight one time, as well. The eye in the sky, Peacock Radar, came up on Guard and told the helicopters south of Kontum to turn right immediately. As we turned, I looked up to see B52's and a whole bunch of bombs. I lost sight of the bombs when they got low enough to blend into the background terrain, but I got to see and hear them when they hit the ground.

Kontum was a very scary place. I've seen a couple Arclights from the ground that dropped while I was well inside the exclusion zone. We'd fly up from Pleiku in the morning and park on top of tank tracks left by T-54's the night before. At one time I had the data plate from a Russian T-54 main gun that I pried off the tank with my K-Bar.

Another time, F4's were dropping napalm over our heads. We were sitting on the airfield, in the city, with a couple gunships and F4's were coming in from the north and releasing their canisters in front of us. The canisters would tumble over our heads and hit targets to the south of us. Sometimes we'd get chased off the airfield by small arms fire, mortars or artillery. Occasionally, a helicopter would be hit and people would get wounded or killed.
Link Posted: 8/5/2010 12:47:11 AM EDT
Originally Posted By osprey21:
http://i48.tinypic.com/t0sw3b.jpg


Four Vulcans for the win!

The epitome of spray and pray.

Link Posted: 8/5/2010 1:55:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/5/2010 1:56:51 AM EDT by 2A373]


They both are QF-4s, just one of them is painted up nice for Heritage Flight duties. QF-4s can still be flown by a pilot in the cockpit.





When being flown as drones they are controlled from the ground and takeoff from a different runway.

The runway next to where these are parked is the one used. Those QF-4s are parked on what is called Death Row.

Originally Posted By Tula1953r:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=30.076201,-85.570208&spn=0.002623,0.006866&t=h&z=18http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=30.038799,-85.530359&spn=0.001312,0.003433&t=h&z=19

Tyndall AFB target drones on Google Earth


Link Posted: 8/5/2010 1:58:44 AM EDT


Fuck YES!
Link Posted: 8/5/2010 2:05:04 AM EDT
The basic description of a MiG is: if you put enough power on it, you can make a rock fly.

If one had never seen an F-4 before, didn't know anything about it..............and knew the principle above, then an F-4 could be a MiG.
__________________________________________________
("Was there light on the water when I fell in and drowned? Did anyone see my body go down? Did he call out "Someone help, she can't swim!"? Or did he just laugh when I slipped and fell in? I went down without a trace And all I could see was a smile on his face I fell in, was I pushed in the fog? When I went down, I went down like a rock...", lyrics, (wtte), "Down Like a Rock" by Laura Branigan)
Link Posted: 8/5/2010 2:13:11 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Moose:
Originally Posted By Moose:
The F15 is a beautiful aircraft (it's one of my favorites), but the F4 just screams "I'm gonna fuck you up."

*Exception is made for a fully loaded Strike Eagle.


I looked on Wiki for a pic to illustrate how badass a Strike Eagle is and I found this pic there.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4114/4862656508_1d43d4ce1b_b.jpg


I saw that one there too awhile back and got good laugh out of it.
Link Posted: 8/5/2010 2:19:26 AM EDT
Originally Posted By gamesniper:
IMHO, the only warbird that looks BADDER than the F4 is the F-15.

The F-15 has "class" written all over it...but it definitely does not look "badder" than the F-4 Phantom.
Link Posted: 8/5/2010 2:32:53 AM EDT


I had to do it
Link Posted: 8/5/2010 2:59:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/5/2010 3:00:41 AM EDT by Pita_146]

Originally Posted By 2A373:
Originally Posted By Moose:
Originally Posted By Moose:
The F15 is a beautiful aircraft (it's one of my favorites), but the F4 just screams "I'm gonna fuck you up."

*Exception is made for a fully loaded Strike Eagle.


I looked on Wiki for a pic to illustrate how badass a Strike Eagle is and I found this pic there.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4114/4862656508_1d43d4ce1b_b.jpg


I saw that one there too awhile back and got good laugh out of it.

What's so funny? I'm missing something.

ETA: I blew up the picture, but can't quite make that out.
Link Posted: 8/5/2010 3:11:35 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/5/2010 6:37:03 AM EDT
As long as Tyndall is painting F-4s in "retro" schemes, I'd like to see one in ADC Gray with the big-ass fuselage buzz numbers and huge USAF insignia.
Link Posted: 8/5/2010 7:04:39 AM EDT
My Dad flew them and loved every minute of it but he'll tell you he'd rather be in a T-38 (for pure fun that is).
Link Posted: 8/5/2010 7:09:55 AM EDT
She doesn't fly but at least she's preserved:



Link Posted: 8/5/2010 7:14:20 AM EDT
I'll have to post a bunch of pic's of my dad when he was an F4 pilot. I grew up around them, and later when I joined the AF, I got to play around them until the new era of computer jets took over. I can remember the days when you could see them before you hear them and they are loud bitches. Always has and always will be my favorite aircraft.
Link Posted: 8/5/2010 9:05:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By topknot:
Why not?



Spangdahlem AB, '87-'89

F-4G

Instruments/Autopilot (and later cut trained into Inertial Nav Sys)

Cussed it back then, love it now.


I worked 15's at Bitburg from '86-'88, backshop avionics.

Link Posted: 8/5/2010 11:08:37 PM EDT
F4G Wild Weasel for the win!



I had a chance to hook a ride in one once but wasn't going to be around long enough to get E-seat qualified which was required before I could go
Link Posted: 8/5/2010 11:14:26 PM EDT
I was never a fan until I saw the one with 5x20mm gun pods and then the pic of the F-4 with 15(!!!!!!)x7.62mm gun pods.

Beyond cool.
Link Posted: 8/5/2010 11:40:20 PM EDT
I nominate the F4 as the official "Muscle Car" of Jet Fighters.
Link Posted: 8/6/2010 12:22:50 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Handsome_Rob:
I nominate the F4 as the official "Muscle Car" of Jet Fighters.


Seconded!
Link Posted: 8/6/2010 12:42:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By topknot:
Why not?



Spangdahlem AB, '87-'89

F-4G

Instruments/Autopilot (and later cut trained into Inertial Nav Sys)

Cussed it back then, love it now.

I was an instrument/autopilot/INS guy on some of the same tails after Spang closed. We (561FS) were the last active duty G model squadron, so we got all the leftover airplanes from Spang and George. I had the same love/hate relationship with them. I can't say I didn't get a big smile of my face when I saw one of our two worst jets painted up in drone colors. As for the rest of the jets, it's a damn shame, but better than rotting away in the boneyard for three decades.
Link Posted: 8/6/2010 3:13:48 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DzlBenz:

Originally Posted By anekrel:
One of my family friends was an F-4 RIO. I never really asked him how it handled. I should. I remember when I was younger I got to sit in one. It was pretty comfy.

He did tell us of a story about being in Arizona on maneuvers. His pilot was bumpin along at "treetop level", and made a comment about the pretty trees below them. My friend leaned over to look, eyes go wide and he turns around and says, "those aren't trees, they're cactuses!"

The pilot then panicked and pulled up to higher altitude.

Even still, there is nothing like that telltale howl one makes while doing a high speed turn. I remember being on the playground and every now and then we'd hear that, and look up at the little grey speck and smile.

That's not the plane making the noise. It's the air, screaming in terror, trying to get the fuck out of the way.


Credit to the General Electric J79 engine for that, used on all of the following aircraft
F-4 Phantom II
A-5 Vigilante
B-58 Hustler
F-104 Starfighter

It made the brick fly.
Link Posted: 8/6/2010 3:16:59 PM EDT
Every time I see that plane I am reminded of the hours of Chuck Yeager's Air Combat I played growing up.
Link Posted: 8/6/2010 3:32:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Pita_146:

Originally Posted By 2A373:
Originally Posted By Moose:
Originally Posted By Moose:
The F15 is a beautiful aircraft (it's one of my favorites), but the F4 just screams "I'm gonna fuck you up."

*Exception is made for a fully loaded Strike Eagle.


I looked on Wiki for a pic to illustrate how badass a Strike Eagle is and I found this pic there.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4114/4862656508_1d43d4ce1b_b.jpg


I saw that one there too awhile back and got good laugh out of it.

What's so funny? I'm missing something.

ETA: I blew up the picture, but can't quite make that out.

Yeah I'm not getting it either.
Link Posted: 8/6/2010 3:39:53 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Pita_146:

Originally Posted By 2A373:
Originally Posted By Moose:
Originally Posted By Moose:
The F15 is a beautiful aircraft (it's one of my favorites), but the F4 just screams "I'm gonna fuck you up."

*Exception is made for a fully loaded Strike Eagle.


I looked on Wiki for a pic to illustrate how badass a Strike Eagle is and I found this pic there.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4114/4862656508_1d43d4ce1b_b.jpg


I saw that one there too awhile back and got good laugh out of it.

What's so funny? I'm missing something.

ETA: I blew up the picture, but can't quite make that out.


You can see the full size pic on the Wikipedia page for F15 Strike Eagle. (Sorry, I'd post a link, but its a PITA on Mobile).

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
Link Posted: 8/6/2010 3:46:45 PM EDT
I worked at an RAF base for 20 years as an MoD aircraft engineer.
I've worked on Gnats,Canberras,Jet provost,Hawk,Jaguar,Tornado,Buccaneer,Victor and parts from all sorts

But my favorite was the F4.

We had a station test pilot who used to do all the air tests for the toombs.

Sqn Ldr Pearce was the most misserable cantancorous old fart you could ever meet...F700 nightmare

But shit did he do the buisness when it came to doing flybys for the engineers who kept the birds flying.

Here he is flying between the hangars at an RAF base near me



There's plenty of info about this pic out there if anyone cares to follow it up

Cheers
Taffy

Engine tests..in reheat . pic from de-tuner
Link Posted: 8/6/2010 3:52:51 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Moose:
Originally Posted By Pita_146:

Originally Posted By 2A373:
Originally Posted By Moose:
Originally Posted By Moose:
The F15 is a beautiful aircraft (it's one of my favorites), but the F4 just screams "I'm gonna fuck you up."

*Exception is made for a fully loaded Strike Eagle.


I looked on Wiki for a pic to illustrate how badass a Strike Eagle is and I found this pic there.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4114/4862656508_1d43d4ce1b_b.jpg


I saw that one there too awhile back and got good laugh out of it.

What's so funny? I'm missing something.

ETA: I blew up the picture, but can't quite make that out.


You can see the full size pic on the Wikipedia page for F15 Strike Eagle. (Sorry, I'd post a link, but its a PITA on Mobile).

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile


Is that a third person in the cockpit?
Link Posted: 8/6/2010 4:22:19 PM EDT

I love that shot of the VX-4 "Vandy 1" going transonic. There's a pretty funny story about the bunny tail art. Basically, Playboy sent a letter to the Navy telling them if they're going to use it, do it right. Hugh Hefner then had proper stencils of the bunny image sent to the VX-4 squadron.

http://www.vandy1.com/history.html
Link Posted: 8/6/2010 4:33:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/6/2010 4:34:43 PM EDT by Stryfe]
Originally Posted By osprey21:


Fuuuuuckkkkk you...A-10

Is there one on the centerline, or did they punk out and hang a drop tank?
Link Posted: 8/6/2010 4:43:35 PM EDT
Originally Posted By anekrel:
One of my family friends was an F-4 RIO. I never really asked him how it handled. I should. I remember when I was younger I got to sit in one. It was pretty comfy.

He did tell us of a story about being in Arizona on maneuvers. His pilot was bumpin along at "treetop level", and made a comment about the pretty trees below them. My friend leaned over to look, eyes go wide and he turns around and says, "those aren't trees, they're cactuses!"

The pilot then panicked and pulled up to higher altitude.

Even still, there is nothing like that telltale howl one makes while doing a high speed turn. I remember being on the playground and every now and then we'd hear that, and look up at the little grey speck and smile.

Eta:

Oregon ANG F-4

http://www.wingweb.co.uk/wingweb/img/450-McDonnell_F-4C_Phantom_ll.jpg

The Happy Hooligans one is North Dakota Air Guard F-4D My Brother was a Hooligan. The best sexiest fight ever!

Oregon ANG F-4C

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/87/232791359_c83162fb72.jpg

Oregon ANG F-4C

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2354/2266495112_ae77c4daec.jpg


Link Posted: 8/6/2010 4:44:02 PM EDT
Iv'e got a gentleman and his wife been eating with me for years at my pizza place...REAL nice guy. Flew a ton of missions with them in Nam. I never knew he was a combat pilot till one day i was discusing a drawing i did in high school of a Phantom that i loved and the dang art teacher said she "lost" it. He said "yup, i loved the Phantoms too". Needless to say i love it when he and his wife come for a pie
Link Posted: 8/6/2010 4:48:15 PM EDT
I like the way they look, however I've always had the understanding that they were really not all that great of a plane... They did used to be blue angles though... hmmm maybe my perspective is skewed.
Link Posted: 8/6/2010 5:42:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Ryan1021:
Every time I see that plane I am reminded of the hours of Chuck Yeager's Air Combat I played growing up.


Oh my God! Talk about blast from the past. I flew so many 'missions' in an F-4E that God knows how many hours I spent. My favorite was the custom mission designer where you could pick your aircraft and the the opposing A/Cs and the orientation and number and etc. After I would rack up my kills, I would then watch the 'video' form different angles. That brings back memories!



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