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Posted: 7/14/2010 10:45:38 PM
Say I wanted to make a primitive spear and attach a spear head to the spear shaft with rope. How do you do it? Whats the proper technique?
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Posted: 7/14/2010 11:03:13 PM
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Well, call me a cheater but they make a Spear shaped knife that can attach to any standard threaded mop handle. I thought about getting one.

I just looked it up again. Its the SOG spirit knife. Has a set screw for attachment to any proper sized branch or stick and will screw directly on to a standard push broom handle, etc.

And I know, you're talking all Indian mojo and stuff but this is an option I am interested in.
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Posted: 7/14/2010 11:06:07 PM
You want to use something that will shrink, like rawhide or sinew. Wrap it tight while wet, it will tighten more as it dries.
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Posted: 7/14/2010 11:06:35 PM
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Posted: 7/14/2010 11:24:57 PM
Thanks for the tips. I'm specifically interested in how to use the cordage. Are there any animated images out there on how to do it?
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Posted: 7/14/2010 11:31:00 PM
Socket or tang?


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Posted: 7/14/2010 11:40:08 PM

Originally Posted By von_landstuhl:
Socket or tang?



Your guess is as good as mine.
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Posted: 7/14/2010 11:43:58 PM
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Pick up a book on early human tools. It's not hard to make your own knives, spears, axes, or hand axes/Ulus.

Hell, they're made with rocks and sticks so you can afford to experiment all you want. Just no cheating with power tools.
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Posted: 7/14/2010 11:44:19 PM
i though you said "how to re-attach a stripper's head" haha
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Posted: 7/14/2010 11:46:02 PM
Originally Posted By lsujim:

Originally Posted By von_landstuhl:
Socket or tang?



Your guess is as good as mine.


He's asking what kind of spear head. A socket will fit over your shaft. A tang will need a split shaft to fit inside. Different methods for each.
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Posted: 7/14/2010 11:47:05 PM
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You've got some things to get figgered out here:
-head (shape it to have sharp edges on the front, but not where it is lashed into place)

-shaft (I think this is the most important part-good strong, light, straight, smooth piece of lumber-you have to throw it, remember?) Also, the shape of the spear shaft where you lash the head on is important to how the lashings work.

-lashings-sinew, rawhide shrink as they dry, so they are on the list.

You can lash a bayonet to a bamboo pole with paracord, and have a great weapon, but it isn't necessarily a spear. Throwing spear? Stabbing spear? What's it for?

I know these aren't really answers, but they may help to get you the info you are looking for.

Edit: obvious question-a stone (flint) head, or a bronze head? Bronze allows you to make a socket, but stone generally doesn't
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Posted: 7/14/2010 11:47:21 PM

Originally Posted By lsujim:

Originally Posted By von_landstuhl:
Socket or tang?



Your guess is as good as mine.

A socketed spear can be friction fit (like a socketed chisel), but is normally held on with a long rivet through the socket and shaft. For a tanged spear, look up primitive arrows. You're basically talking about a scaled-up version of the same thing.

BTW, many people I know that dabble in blacksmithing use socketed chisels to make socketed spears.
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Posted: 7/14/2010 11:59:32 PM
Thanks for the great tips everyone.

Lashing was the word I was looking for. Now I'm finding what I need on youtube/etc.
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Posted: 7/15/2010 12:13:51 AM
You're not done, mister
Show us the results (with wild bacon that you speared) to save your rep.
Or at least a nice spear
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Posted: 7/15/2010 12:50:46 AM
SOG Spirit and a broom handle. Or any knife blade + a stick + some rope/paracord/sturdy twine = spear
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Posted: 7/15/2010 12:58:15 AM

Originally Posted By LePew:
You're not done, mister
Show us the results (with wild bacon that you speared) to save your rep.
Or at least a nice spear

I'll whisper to it too.
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Posted: 7/15/2010 12:58:42 AM
Originally Posted By lsujim:
Say I wanted to make a primitive spear and attach a spear head to the spear shaft with rope. How do you do it? Whats the proper technique?

rope = fail You need rawhide to do it correctly.
Split shaft, insert spear head , wet rawhide wrap tightly allow rawhide to dry.apply additional course of rawhide thongs



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Posted: 7/15/2010 1:20:24 AM
Gonna need some pine pitch, sinew and lots of hide glue!
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Posted: 7/15/2010 1:22:35 AM

Originally Posted By bloodsport2885:
Pick up a book on early human tools. It's not hard to make your own knives, spears, axes, or hand axes/Ulus.

Hell, they're made with rocks and sticks so you can afford to experiment all you want. Just no cheating with power tools.

I take it you have never flintknapped before! Good luck trying to make an arrowhead just by reading a book!
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Posted: 7/15/2010 4:58:03 AM
Originally Posted By lsujim:
Say I wanted to make a primitive spear and attach a spear head to the spear shaft with rope. How do you do it? Whats the proper technique?


chew tendons and sinews down to cord size and use that. or use some high strength cording. ROPE is too big. And since you want it to be the proper technique use brass nuts and bolts and cover those with the cord.