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Posted: 5/21/2010 6:13:25 AM EST
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Not talking about your CCW .........but your truck gun , a longarm.

Not necessarily inserted into the weapon , just a few loaded mags ........say in the mag pouches on the gun's case.

Curious.......Is it legal in your state?


And while we're on the subject , 'IF' you can in your state .........what about if the longarm has an integral mag? Is there a difference?


ETA...........Here in Maine , a loaded longarm's mag is GTG , as long as its not attatched to the longarm .

B. A person may not, while in or on a motor vehicle or in or on a trailer or other type of vehicle being hauled by a motor vehicle, have a cocked and armed crossbow or a firearm with a cartridge or shell in the chamber or in an attached magazine, clip or cylinder or a muzzle-loading firearm charged with powder, lead and a primed ignition device or mechanism, except that a person who has a valid Maine permit to carry a concealed weapon may have in or on a motor vehicle or trailer a loaded pistol or revolver covered by that permit.


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Posted: 5/21/2010 6:14:48 AM EST
We can carry unloaded long guns in our vehicles in Utah. Unloaded = empty chamber.

I've never been hassled for my AR sitting on the backseat during traffic stops, even with the magazine in.
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Posted: 5/21/2010 6:16:40 AM EST
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Legal in Texas. Concealed or open. Round in chamber. It's all good.

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Posted: 5/21/2010 6:17:20 AM EST
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Loaded rifle in car is fine.

You just can't display it "in a manner calculated to alarm."
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Posted: 5/21/2010 6:17:43 AM EST
Yep. I can have a loaded mag and an AR in the backseat of my pickup. As long as the mag isn't in the rifle and the rifle is cased you am good to go in IL.
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Posted: 5/21/2010 6:18:06 AM EST
Walk down the streen in TX, locked and loaded, safety off.
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Posted: 5/21/2010 6:19:25 AM EST
Not in Ohio. On the way to the range, no loaded magazines allowed in the vehicle.
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Posted: 5/21/2010 6:19:39 AM EST
Just recently in TN. Used to be a loaded magazine was considered a loaded rifle (hello shoe-string = machine gun).

Still can't have one chambered but at least we can have the magazine in it.
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Posted: 5/21/2010 6:21:40 AM EST
Yep! But if I drive through Denver, I need to stop at my storage shed on the north part of town, store all of my 30 round magazines and pick up all of the 20 rounders. Then I stop at my storage shed on the south part of town and swap them back.

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Posted: 5/21/2010 6:23:18 AM EST
Correct me if I am wrong but I think in CO you cannot have a round chambered?
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Posted: 5/21/2010 6:23:26 AM EST
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Yep! But if I drive through Denver, I need to stop at my storage shed on the north part of town, store all of my 30 round magazines and pick up all of the 20 rounders. Then I stop at my storage shed on the south part of town and swap them back.


What a PITA! Glad TX has it in the state constitution that no municipality can create laws more restrictive than those on the state level in regards to guns.
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Posted: 5/21/2010 6:23:28 AM EST
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Just recently in TN. Used to be a loaded magazine was considered a loaded rifle (hello shoe-string = machine gun).

Still can't have one chambered but at least we can have the magazine in it.


I didn't know they changed it. That's good to know!
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Posted: 5/21/2010 6:24:40 AM EST
Yes I can.. I can even have the mag in the gun as long as there is not a round in the chamber the gun is not considered loaded
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An old hunting regulation in NY says that a long arm must be unloaded in both chamber and magazine while in a motor vehicle. This is generally accepted to mean that an internal magazine and the chamber of that gun must be unloaded...but detachable mags can be loaded and kept in the vehicle. We usually dont keep them in the rifle loaded just in case, so usually in the mag pouches is g2g.
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Posted: 5/21/2010 6:26:03 AM EST
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This will cause some pause, but yes you can in NY. It cannot be in the firearm. Commonly held advice is to keep it in a separate locked container from the firearm if you don't have a trunk. This pertains to long arms. Handguns with a valid permit are fine for loaded or however you decide for transport.

The law dealing with this loaded long gun issue is a NY Environmental Conservation Law iirc devised to curb poaching more than "public safety". Doesn't mean it can't be applied towards public safety in real world application...

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Yes. Mag in but chamber has to be empty.
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Posted: 5/21/2010 6:27:47 AM EST

Originally Posted By DiddyMas:
Just recently in TN. Used to be a loaded magazine was considered a loaded rifle (hello shoe-string = machine gun).

Still can't have one chambered but at least we can have the magazine in it.


Would that include people from out of state?
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Posted: 5/21/2010 6:28:04 AM EST
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Loaded rifle in car is fine.

You just can't display it "in a manner calculated to alarm."


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Posted: 5/21/2010 6:28:12 AM EST
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Originally Posted By DiddyMas:
Just recently in TN. Used to be a loaded magazine was considered a loaded rifle (hello shoe-string = machine gun).

Still can't have one chambered but at least we can have the magazine in it.


I didn't know they changed it. That's good to know!


**Only applies to carry permit holders.

The law goes on to state that you can use the long gun defensively, if need be. How ridiculous is that?
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Posted: 5/21/2010 6:43:17 AM EST
Originally Posted By Popo:
Originally Posted By goose_bob_jr:
Originally Posted By DiddyMas:
Just recently in TN. Used to be a loaded magazine was considered a loaded rifle (hello shoe-string = machine gun).

Still can't have one chambered but at least we can have the magazine in it.


I didn't know they changed it. That's good to know!


**Only applies to carry permit holders.

The law goes on to state that you can use the long gun defensively, if need be. How ridiculous is that?


Well I have my permit so I'm good there.
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Posted: 5/21/2010 6:45:59 AM EST
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Originally Posted By DiddyMas:
Just recently in TN. Used to be a loaded magazine was considered a loaded rifle (hello shoe-string = machine gun).

Still can't have one chambered but at least we can have the magazine in it.


I didn't know they changed it. That's good to know!


I believe you have to have your CCW to do this, but I'm not sure.
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Posted: 5/21/2010 6:47:56 AM EST
In VA,counties or cities can make carry of a loaded firearm illegal in a vehicle on public highways. Some do,some don't.
So far as I know,you can,in a vehicle, legally transport an AR with a loaded mag inserted,and the bolt locked back in VA. Loaded= chambered

You can't walk around with a loaded semi-auto with a more than 20rd magazine in some of our urban counties however. That's one of our weirder laws.
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TX, carry your longarm, locked and loaded. you are GTG legally,
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Posted: 5/21/2010 6:48:23 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Poodleshooter:
In VA,counties or cities can make carry of a loaded firearm illegal in a vehicle on public highways. Some do,some don't.
So far as I know,you can,in a vehicle, legally transport an AR with a loaded mag inserted,and the bolt locked back in VA. Loaded= chambered

You can't walk around with a loaded semi-auto with a more than 20rd magazine in some of our urban counties however. That's one of our weirder laws.


You can if you have a CHP.
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Posted: 5/21/2010 6:48:52 AM EST
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Originally Posted By DiddyMas:
Just recently in TN. Used to be a loaded magazine was considered a loaded rifle (hello shoe-string = machine gun).

Still can't have one chambered but at least we can have the magazine in it.


I didn't know they changed it. That's good to know!


I believe you have to have your CCW to do this, but I'm not sure.


Yeah, it was mentioned above that it only applies to CCW holders. Which I'm in the clear.
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Posted: 5/21/2010 6:48:54 AM EST
We can have a loaded magazine, but it must be in a different container than the rifle. A pocket on a rifle case works. It's a hunting based regulation.

I can walk down mainstreet with a loaded ak, however.
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loaded and uncased

I think we can even shoot from the road at varmints(Coyotes etc.)

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Posted: 5/21/2010 6:51:06 AM EST
Originally Posted By DiddyMas:
Just recently in TN. Used to be a loaded magazine was considered a loaded rifle (hello shoe-string = machine gun).

Still can't have one chambered but at least we can have the magazine in it.


A loaded magazine, but not inserted into the firearm, is still considered loaded.

The change was only to allow those with a Handgun Carry Permit to have a loaded (but no round in the chamber) rifle or shotgun in their vehicle. For all others, it's still no loaded magazines and no ammo in the immediate vicinity of the firearm.
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Posted: 5/21/2010 6:55:02 AM EST
Long guns must be out of sight and unloaded (can have loaded mags/ammo in same case). GTG
Handguns and AR's in a locked case, unloaded, trigger or action lock, with transport permit (to approved range only).
So I can tool around town with any shotgun or rifle (right up to .50 BMG) in the car, but my .22 pistol and AR have to locked down on the way to range.
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Posted: 5/21/2010 6:56:14 AM EST
Originally Posted By Popo:
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Originally Posted By DiddyMas:
Just recently in TN. Used to be a loaded magazine was considered a loaded rifle (hello shoe-string = machine gun).

Still can't have one chambered but at least we can have the magazine in it.


I didn't know they changed it. That's good to know!


**Only applies to carry permit holders.

The law goes on to state that you can use the long gun defensively, if need be. How ridiculous is that?


Considering the mentality of some in the more urban areas of our state, they had to put that in there to make it perfectly clear that it was legal to use that type of firearm for self-defense.
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Posted: 5/21/2010 6:58:07 AM EST
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Correct me if I am wrong but I think in CO you cannot have a round chambered?


That's right (for long guns, handguns can be chambered).

It just gets goofy when you travel through Denver with high capacity (21+ round) magazines. The instructor in my CCW class mentioned something about a "Peaceable Journey" provision in Denver's AWB but it sounds like it's going to be a hassle if you did get stopped in Denver with hicaps.

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Posted: 5/21/2010 6:59:29 AM EST
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Yup.


Does that include out of state non permit holders ?Iknow they changed it where you could carry a loaded pistol in a car without a permit. Can you have a loaded chamber or just a mag inserted ? Iv'ehadapermit for years but wouldbenice toknowif
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Posted: 5/21/2010 6:59:50 AM EST
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You can drive around with a loaded M16 hanging in the gun rack of your pick up if you wanted. Properly NFA registered of course.
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Posted: 5/21/2010 7:00:24 AM EST

Originally Posted By osprey21:
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Posted: 5/21/2010 7:04:55 AM EST
The diversity of gun laws often amazes me.
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Posted: 5/21/2010 7:05:43 AM EST
You can carry long guns fully loaded on the front seat if you want to in South Carolina except for some silly regulations on state owned Wildlife Managament Areas that I never visit anyway.
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Posted: 5/21/2010 7:05:59 AM EST
IIRC in Oklahoma you can have a weapon and a loaded magazine but they have to be separated in a way that the weapon cannot be loaded easily while driving the vehicle. I could have my center console filled with loaded magazines and a gun in the trunk (if I didn't drive a pickup, I could keep one in my toolbox if I cleaned it out.) If anything happens I'd have to grab the magazines, get out of the vehicle, open the trunk/toolbox, then load and THEN I could fire. You could also reverse this and have gun up front and ammunition in back, but LE's I've talked to suggest gun in back to be safe, legally anyway.
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Posted: 5/21/2010 7:06:50 AM EST
Originally Posted By DiddyMas:
Just recently in TN. Used to be a loaded magazine was considered a loaded rifle (hello shoe-string = machine gun).

Still can't have one chambered but at least we can have the magazine in it.


...and this is only allowed if you have a carry permit.
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