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Posted: 4/30/2010 2:05:20 AM
What's Arfcom's general consensus on the .460 Rowland?

I'd never heard of it until today.
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Posted: 4/30/2010 2:09:02 AM
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Posted: 4/30/2010 2:09:16 AM
[Last Edit: 4/30/2010 2:10:07 AM by SOC]
It's 45 ACP loaded to pressures found in 40 S&W 10mm etc.

ETA: The case is lengthened just enough not to chamber in 45 ACP guns.
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Posted: 4/30/2010 2:12:20 AM
Really needs it's own platform.
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Posted: 4/30/2010 2:14:26 AM
Horrible idea, concept, and execution

Yeah I bought one

Factory Ammo (if you can call it that) would split cases and give you a really short 45 and then a sleeve of brass - on a regular basis

Pistol was sent to the factory and came back worse than it was sent in

Parts now set in my junk pile
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Posted: 4/30/2010 2:14:37 AM
I will admit to not having first hand experience, but I've heard it can be rough on frames when used in 1911-style weapons. I'd like to give it a try, though.
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Posted: 4/30/2010 2:14:37 AM
It doesn't seem to me like it has any real advantage over a .44 Magnum revolver in any application that it's likely to see use.
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Posted: 4/30/2010 2:17:10 AM
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Originally Posted By WhackyPlague:
It doesn't seem to me like it has any real advantage over a .44 Magnum revolver in any application that it's likely to see use.


Except for 2-3 extra rounds and faster reload times, you're probably correct.

ETA) I wasn't being sarcastic. I heard it beats the frame of the pistol it's mounted on pretty bad. It's a great idea, and if they refine it some more, I'll order one myself.
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Posted: 4/30/2010 2:20:30 AM
I love the idea, and have snooped alittle, but have no practical knowledge of it.

I think the plus is you get .44 mag-type performance in an M1911 platform... which is desirable too me.
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Posted: 4/30/2010 2:22:04 AM
Also it's not as close to 44mag is they would lead you to think

at least in my experience

but then again what do I know - I just own one
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Posted: 4/30/2010 2:24:28 AM
wow, I never knew that round existed. You learn something new every day in arfcomland.
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Posted: 4/30/2010 2:24:48 AM
Originally Posted By byron2112:
I love the idea, and have snooped alittle, but have no practical knowledge of it.

I think the plus is you get .44 mag-type performance in an M1911 platform... which is desirable too me.


It's way short of what can be had for a .44. It is terribly limited with bullets of 250-260 grain and up whereas bullets in the 240-300 range is where the .44 shines.
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Posted: 4/30/2010 2:26:56 AM
Originally Posted By BarryTolar:
Also it's not as close to 44mag is they would lead you to think

at least in my experience

but then again what do I know - I just own one


I might have a use for that barrel. Maybe something in my junk pile might interest you...
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Posted: 4/30/2010 2:29:00 AM
Brutal. It only functions in the 1911 due to the highly effective compensator which slightly tames the violence.

A much better solution is the .45 Super. This is a fully supported .45 ACP with suitable recoil spring. 200 grain JHP at 1250 FPS isn't too shabby.
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Posted: 4/30/2010 2:33:06 AM
Originally Posted By only1asterisk:
Originally Posted By byron2112:
I love the idea, and have snooped alittle, but have no practical knowledge of it.

I think the plus is you get .44 mag-type performance in an M1911 platform... which is desirable too me.


It's way short of what can be had for a .44. It is terribly limited with bullets of 250-260 grain and up whereas bullets in the 240-300 range is where the .44 shines.


It's a compromise for sure... or you could just carry a Desert Eagle...
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Posted: 4/30/2010 2:41:23 AM
Originally Posted By only1asterisk:
Originally Posted By byron2112:
I love the idea, and have snooped alittle, but have no practical knowledge of it.

I think the plus is you get .44 mag-type performance in an M1911 platform... which is desirable too me.


It's way short of what can be had for a .44. It is terribly limited with bullets of 250-260 grain and up whereas bullets in the 240-300 range is where the .44 shines.


I have read that fairly consistently. The power isn't really what they say it is, and the bullet weights are on the low side.
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Posted: 4/30/2010 3:08:54 AM
I wonder if it could be used with the ~250 grain SWCs, like Taffin used in the .45 ACP in a recent article.
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Posted: 4/30/2010 3:44:49 AM
Anybody put this caliber in an upper receiver yet?
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Posted: 4/30/2010 9:03:24 AM
Originally Posted By GLHX2112:
Anybody put this caliber in an upper receiver yet?

.45 Super Mag (.460)

You'll need to E-mail or call in, to order just an upper.
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Posted: 4/30/2010 9:06:57 AM
The SW 4506 would be a good host gun for a .460 kit. I don't think one is made for it though...damn shame cause the 4506 is built like a brick shit house covered in Stainless Steel.
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Posted: 4/30/2010 9:09:23 AM
To each his own, and I'm glad people are interested in things like this, but in my opinion, it's just another boutique caliber produced by talented gunsmiths strutting their stuff.

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Posted: 4/30/2010 9:12:57 AM
Originally Posted By Keith_J:
Brutal. It only functions in the 1911 due to the highly effective compensator which slightly tames the violence. I don't know about this

A much better solution is the .45 Super. This is a fully supported .45 ACP with suitable recoil spring. 200 grain JHP at 1250 FPS isn't too shabby. I love mine


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Posted: 4/30/2010 9:24:37 AM
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Originally Posted By Keith_J:
Brutal. It only functions in the 1911 due to the highly effective compensator which slightly tames the violence. I don't know about this

A much better solution is the .45 Super. This is a fully supported .45 ACP with suitable recoil spring. 200 grain JHP at 1250 FPS isn't too shabby. I love mine




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