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Posted: 3/28/2010 10:35:23 AM EST
someone i know showed back up one day. he did a tour in Iraq, Army ( not national guard ) then a few months after the tour, he shows up out of the blue, saying "meh, i just got in my car, drove off base. they wont come looking for me"

im guessing there is WAY more to the story,

how do i find out if there were other circumstances, say, dishonorable discharge or something? hell, could have been a dont ask, dont tell issue

it just seems weird that someone can say fuckit,im foing, and not be picked up a year + later when he still had 1.5 years to go.
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Posted: 3/28/2010 10:37:22 AM EST
Not that weird at all actually.. had a guy in my platoon do it. He came back like a year later though. I don't know the end result specifics but I think he spent time in jail and got a dishonorable discharge.
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Posted: 3/28/2010 10:44:11 AM EST
happens more than you would think...
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Posted: 3/28/2010 10:45:55 AM EST
Originally Posted By builttoughf250:
someone i know showed back up one day. he did a tour in Iraq, Army ( not national guard ) then a few months after the tour, he shows up out of the blue, saying "meh, i just got in my car, drove off base. they wont come looking for me"

im guessing there is WAY more to the story,

how do i find out if there were other circumstances, say, dishonorable discharge or something? hell, could have been a dont ask, dont tell issue

it just seems weird that someone can say fuckit,im foing, and not be picked up a year + later when he still had 1.5 years to go.


Why don't you man up ad ask him? Instead of sneaking around trying to find ways to violate the privacy act of 1974?

Your buddy is probably AWOL/ Missing movement. If so, he's right, they WON'T come looking for him. They will probably adsep him out with a other than honorable or bad conduct discharge. He'll lose all or most of the rights he had as a veteran, right that he had been earning. OR he'll get pulled over for something stupid one day, and they will take him back to do brig time, and finish out his contract.
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Posted: 3/28/2010 10:53:23 AM EST
I had a guy in Korea (Korean National-American soldier) show back up to the unit after he had been gone for 2+years. He just walked up the gate and told the guys he took a little time off and was back to finish up. He was sentenced to 6 months in jail, dishonorable discharge, all that. I've seen other people just take off to show back up a few months later. Shit, at Ft. Knox, there was always a gaggle of really old fuckers wearing BDU's picking up trash, cutting grass, other details. These are guys that had split how many untold years ago and had gotten caught by civilian authorities. They were still owned by the Army and where waiting to get kicked out.

You can do a Freedom of Information Act request at the VA on the soldier if you really want to.
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Posted: 3/28/2010 10:58:59 AM EST
Originally Posted By cavscouty:
I had a guy in Korea (Korean National-American soldier) show back up to the unit after he had been gone for 2+years. He just walked up the gate and told the guys he took a little time off and was back to finish up. He was sentenced to 6 months in jail, dishonorable discharge, all that. I've seen other people just take off to show back up a few months later. Shit, at Ft. Knox, there was always a gaggle of really old fuckers wearing BDU's picking up trash, cutting grass, other details. These are guys that had split how many untold years ago and had gotten caught by civilian authorities. They were still owned by the Army and where waiting to get kicked out.

You can do a Freedom of Information Act request at the VA on the soldier if you really want to.


We had the same Platoon in the Marines at Camp Pendleton. Bunch of old timers that went UA for Vietnam. Now they just separate people without waiting for them to come back, makes it a lot easier.

I didn't think you could get info on some one with a freedom of info act? My understanding was the only thing really available was a DD214 if it was filed at county records.
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Posted: 3/28/2010 11:02:49 AM EST
Originally Posted By builttoughf250:
someone i know showed back up one day. he did a tour in Iraq, Army ( not national guard ) then a few months after the tour, he shows up out of the blue, saying "meh, i just got in my car, drove off base. they wont come looking for me"

im guessing there is WAY more to the story,

how do i find out if there were other circumstances, say, dishonorable discharge or something? hell, could have been a dont ask, dont tell issue

it just seems weird that someone can say fuckit,im foing, and not be picked up a year + later when he still had 1.5 years to go.





How do I put this. Oh O know/

it's none of your D*** business.
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Posted: 3/28/2010 11:03:34 AM EST
If he was in my old unit, if he goes back they'll promote him. And if he gets a DUI he'll be on the fast track to Ranger school.
Nobody who went AWOL in my unit ever got a DD.
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Posted: 3/28/2010 11:04:22 AM EST
Originally Posted By Madcap72:
Originally Posted By cavscouty:
You can do a Freedom of Information Act request at the VA on the soldier if you really want to.


We had the same Platoon in the Marines at Camp Pendleton. Bunch of old timers that went UA for Vietnam. Now they just separate people without waiting for them to come back, makes it a lot easier.

I didn't think you could get info on some one with a freedom of info act? My understanding was the only thing really available was a DD214 if it was filed at county records.


The VA has DD214's on file on most everybody, the fire of 1977 burned a shit ton of them up though. This is a good place to start.

Makes perfect sense.
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Posted: 3/28/2010 11:04:47 AM EST
Originally Posted By dragongoddess:
Originally Posted By builttoughf250:
someone i know showed back up one day. he did a tour in Iraq, Army ( not national guard ) then a few months after the tour, he shows up out of the blue, saying "meh, i just got in my car, drove off base. they wont come looking for me"

im guessing there is WAY more to the story,

how do i find out if there were other circumstances, say, dishonorable discharge or something? hell, could have been a dont ask, dont tell issue

it just seems weird that someone can say fuckit,im foing, and not be picked up a year + later when he still had 1.5 years to go.





How do I put this. Oh O know/

it's none of your D*** business.


so a guy might have gone AWOL, and its no ones business ?
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Posted: 3/28/2010 11:06:55 AM EST
Originally Posted By -GunNutJuell-:
If he was in my old unit, if he goes back they'll promote him. And if he gets a DUI he'll be on the fast track to Ranger school.
Nobody who went AWOL in my unit ever got a DD.


What's that?
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Posted: 3/28/2010 11:08:44 AM EST
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Originally Posted By -GunNutJuell-:
If he was in my old unit, if he goes back they'll promote him. And if he gets a DUI he'll be on the fast track to Ranger school.
Nobody who went AWOL in my unit ever got a DD.


We must have served with the same unit.

Sounds like he was being facetious. You said he was in the NG, finished his tour, and then a few months after he gets back he returns to work. Isn't that the way it usually works?
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Posted: 3/28/2010 11:10:54 AM EST
Originally Posted By cavscouty:
Originally Posted By -GunNutJuell-:
If he was in my old unit, if he goes back they'll promote him. And if he gets a DUI he'll be on the fast track to Ranger school.
Nobody who went AWOL in my unit ever got a DD.


What's that?


Dishonorable discharge.
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Posted: 3/28/2010 11:15:29 AM EST
Originally Posted By Shootist_Jeff:
Originally Posted By -GunNutJuell-:
If he was in my old unit, if he goes back they'll promote him. And if he gets a DUI he'll be on the fast track to Ranger school.
Nobody who went AWOL in my unit ever got a DD.


We must have served with the same unit.

Sounds like he was being facetious. You said he was in the NG, finished his tour, and then a few months after he gets back he returns to work. Isn't that the way it usually works?


He said not in the NG.
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Posted: 3/28/2010 11:15:36 AM EST
Originally Posted By Shootist_Jeff:
Originally Posted By -GunNutJuell-:
If he was in my old unit, if he goes back they'll promote him. And if he gets a DUI he'll be on the fast track to Ranger school.
Nobody who went AWOL in my unit ever got a DD.


We must have served with the same unit.

Sounds like he was being facetious. You said he was in the NG, finished his tour, and then a few months after he gets back he returns to work. Isn't that the way it usually works?


no, this guy was ARMY active, not NG
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Originally Posted By builttoughf250:
Originally Posted By dragongoddess:
Originally Posted By builttoughf250:
someone i know showed back up one day. he did a tour in Iraq, Army ( not national guard ) then a few months after the tour, he shows up out of the blue, saying "meh, i just got in my car, drove off base. they wont come looking for me"

im guessing there is WAY more to the story,

how do i find out if there were other circumstances, say, dishonorable discharge or something? hell, could have been a dont ask, dont tell issue

it just seems weird that someone can say fuckit,im foing, and not be picked up a year + later when he still had 1.5 years to go.





How do I put this. Oh O know/

it's none of your D*** business.


so a guy might have gone AWOL, and its no ones business ?


The OP has every right to ask his buddy what happened, his buddy has every right not to tell him. It IS no ones business. He'll either get picked up, or not either way he's boned. It's no ones place to judge him except for his superiors if he's caught or a court martial.
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Posted: 3/28/2010 11:20:08 AM EST
Why would somebody lie about going AWOL? If he's going to lie about why he's out early he could just say he got a Medical Discharge or something.
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Posted: 3/28/2010 11:22:55 AM EST
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If he gets pulled over in a traffic stop AWOL will show up on a records check for wants & warrants.

At least it used to.
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Posted: 3/28/2010 11:23:01 AM EST
Originally Posted By ScoutOut:
Why would somebody lie about going AWOL? If he's going to lie about why he's out early he could just say he got a Medical Discharge or something.


"meh, i just got in my car, drove off base. they wont come looking for me" sounds pretty honest.
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Posted: 3/28/2010 11:35:02 AM EST

Originally Posted By Tango7:
If he gets pulled over in a traffic stop AWOL will show up on a records check for wants & warrants.

At least it used to.

I know we ran on a medical call at the jail for a guy that had been picked up by the local PD for showing up as AWOL.
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