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Posted: 3/7/2010 8:34:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/7/2010 8:36:18 AM EDT by sinsir]
so here it is, definitive proof that even non-glock type firearms go kaboom. it happened yesterday at the range.












Link Posted: 3/7/2010 8:35:28 AM EDT
WTF happened?
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 8:36:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/7/2010 8:37:03 AM EDT by GNRNR]

Originally Posted By R_Fury:
WTF happened?


+P .22
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 8:36:40 AM EDT
thats looks like a squib Kb not a chamber space KB ....
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 8:38:12 AM EDT
Must've been a lateral order of P22s made by Glock.

I KEED; I KEED; DON'T TAZE ME, BRO!!!
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 8:38:12 AM EDT
That is a common flaw in P22. I beleive I read a product advisment or recall or smoething that could even give a pretty goo dround count estimate as to where it would fail...

Dan
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 8:38:20 AM EDT
Looks like I will be staying away from guns with MIM parts.
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 8:38:27 AM EDT
Details on ammo etc?

I've seen pics of this happening to a P22 before, IIRC S&W replaced the slide.
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 8:38:37 AM EDT
Let me guess...reloads
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 8:38:43 AM EDT
I've always heard that those walther p22 slides were pot metal. I went with the Ruger MKIII. Sorry about the bro. Hope it gets fixed.

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Link Posted: 3/7/2010 8:39:00 AM EDT
you got me on that one as well ... I was shooting, about the third mag of the day, and I pulled the trigger, and the slide bounced off of my shoulder ... I was shooting factory, rem "golden bullets" bulk pack
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 8:39:07 AM EDT
how did the slide feel when it hit the shooter in the face?
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 8:39:08 AM EDT
Cast slide.
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 8:40:22 AM EDT
Originally Posted By pv74:
Let me guess...reloads




Link Posted: 3/7/2010 8:41:24 AM EDT
Originally Posted By pv74:
Let me guess...reloads


LOL... who the hell reloads .22 ?
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 8:42:15 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Dan12:
That is a common flaw in P22. I beleive I read a product advisment or recall or smoething that could even give a pretty goo dround count estimate as to where it would fail...

Dan


I call BS...only Rugers are ever recalled
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 8:42:25 AM EDT
as for the round count ... well ... a cubic *F* ton .... i have shot this gun a lot .. well over 5k

not reloads .. it's a .22
rem golden bullet bulk pack

not a squib ..

the round fired and hit the target
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 8:43:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/7/2010 8:43:33 AM EDT by HK_Shooter_03]
Shitty Chinese monkey metal slides = failure.

The only thing potmetal should be used for is airsoft - not even rimfires.
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 8:43:42 AM EDT
Originally Posted By pv74:
Let me guess...reloads






Link Posted: 3/7/2010 8:43:45 AM EDT
Originally Posted By GonzoAR15-1:
how did the slide feel when it hit the shooter in the face?


it did'nt, it hit my shoulder ... and it was like a weak punch from a girl .. did'nt even leave a bruise

Link Posted: 3/7/2010 8:44:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/7/2010 8:44:31 AM EDT by PA452]
This is one of the reasons I don't have a P22. They're simply cheaply made.
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 8:46:00 AM EDT
Originally Posted By pv74:
Let me guess...reloads


You are kidding, right? Still
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 8:47:20 AM EDT
Not so much a KAboom, but the front did fall off.

I've heard about these problems with the P22, I haven't shot it much in the last few years because of it,.
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 8:51:18 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Triumph955i:
Not so much a KAboom, but the front did fall off.

I've heard about these problems with the P22, I haven't shot it much in the last few years because of it,.


actually the front of the slide stayed on, due to the threaded adapter, the rest of the slide came flying off
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 8:54:20 AM EDT
Must have been stored too close to a glock.
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 8:58:37 AM EDT
Damn, the only thing my P22 will shoot is CCI minimags.
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 9:00:45 AM EDT
did you have a suppressor on it ?
its sorta common with a suppressor
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 9:03:15 AM EDT
Interesting. I have thousands and thousands of rounds through my dad's P22. I love using it to acquaint new shooters––Last thing I want is to have it fly off and hit some girl in the face and end up like this ––->

What year was your P22 made?
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 9:08:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/7/2010 9:10:04 AM EDT by sinsir]
Originally Posted By DarkCharisma:
Interesting. I have thousands and thousands of rounds through my dad's P22. I love using it to acquaint new shooters––Last thing I want is to have it fly off and hit some girl in the face and end up like this ––->

What year was your P22 made?


it was a "first edition" i've had it for years ... round count - 5k+ easy


Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
did you have a suppressor on it ?
its sorta common with a suppressor


so now you tell me yes, the form 4 came in, i picked it up from the dealer, and hit the range ... then the slide hit me

Link Posted: 3/7/2010 9:11:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/7/2010 9:13:17 AM EDT by Walkure]
Not a KB.

Slides failing at the front is common with P22s, especially when there is some sort of shoulder in front of the slide (hence why it is most common with the longer-barrel variants that feature the "barrel weight" at the end of the slide).


ETA - It is considered an inevitability by a good number of individuals, including myself. P22s are NOT made to last; they are made to be cheap and to work well during their relatively short lifespan.
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 9:13:25 AM EDT
Mine is up to 17,000 now and still running good . Little peening here and there , and I need to re tighten the screws every now and than , but the slide is still in one piece . So what was hanging off the front of that when it went?
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 9:17:39 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Kodiak-AK:
Mine is up to 17,000 now and still running good . Little peening here and there , and I need to re tighten the screws every now and than , but the slide is still in one piece . So what was hanging off the front of that when it went?



a YHM .22 wraith



Link Posted: 3/7/2010 9:23:02 AM EDT
Originally Posted By America-first:
Cast slide.



That gets my vote.
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 9:27:59 AM EDT
The barrel doesn't look damaged at all. If I were betting $$ on the failure mode, I'd say that the POS potmetal slide developed stress cracks and sheared off under recoil. The recoil spring was driving it forward, inertia was pulling it rearward, and that spot in the slide was the weakest point.



Originally Posted By pv74:
Let me guess...reloads


Not sure if serious, but this is funny either way

Link Posted: 3/7/2010 9:29:43 AM EDT
Originally Posted By GonzoAR15-1:
how did the slide feel when it hit the shooter in the face?


Probably not as bad as a Beretta slide.
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 9:30:14 AM EDT
Well that sucks,I own one of those. I don't have any where near the round count you have but dam. I think I'll put mine up for sale.
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 9:30:43 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 9:34:46 AM EDT
inclusions in the cast magnesium (IIRC) material.. poor choice for a slide material/method IMHO..

that said I DO own one myself.. only issue I've had is a feeding one and wather sez to put more rounds through it.
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 9:35:00 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Ragin_Cajun:
The barrel doesn't look damaged at all. If I were betting $$ on the failure mode, I'd say that the POS potmetal slide developed stress cracks and sheared off under recoil. The recoil spring was driving it forward, inertia was pulling it rearward, and that spot in the slide was the weakest point.



Originally Posted By pv74:
Let me guess...reloads


Not sure if serious, but this is funny either way



that was my assessment as well, in the one pic, I highlighted what looked to me like porosity or other material flaws in the slide where it broke. after years of shooting it, and thousands of rounds later ... she finally gave up
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 9:35:06 AM EDT
cool concept/design ..... pos build quality
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 9:38:18 AM EDT
That sucks. I have one of those.



Link Posted: 3/7/2010 9:38:22 AM EDT
I wouldn't call that a kaboom, I'd call it a cracked slide.
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 9:38:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/7/2010 9:39:19 AM EDT by sinsir]
Originally Posted By SGB:
As said .......... Hardly a "KABOOM"


Originally Posted By Tolip:
I wouldn't call that a kaboom, I'd call it a cracked slide.



true, ... no loud bang, no cloud of burning powder .. it was more of a WTF then a Kaboom
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 9:43:19 AM EDT
Those slides are made of metal similar to what Lorcins, Jennings, and Ravens are made from. I'll take a cast steel Ruger or Browning any day of the week first. I have never understood peoples' fascination with the Walther P22.
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 9:47:41 AM EDT
Just send it back, they will take care of you. I had an older one (2004?) that developed cracks in the slide in '08. I sent it in and they replaced the slide and some other parts at no cost.
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 9:52:08 AM EDT
Well I never liked the P22. I do like my P99 though.
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 9:55:04 AM EDT
Originally Posted By AJE:
Just send it back, they will take care of you. I had an older one (2004?) that developed cracks in the slide in '08. I sent it in and they replaced the slide and some other parts at no cost.


it's in a box, waiting on monday

Link Posted: 3/7/2010 9:59:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/7/2010 9:59:55 AM EDT by AJE]

Originally Posted By sinsir:
Originally Posted By AJE:
Just send it back, they will take care of you. I had an older one (2004?) that developed cracks in the slide in '08. I sent it in and they replaced the slide and some other parts at no cost.


it's in a box, waiting on monday


That's good. You'll have it back pretty quickly. I think mine was about a week.

You'll put alot more rounds through it if you just got your suppressor
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 10:04:36 AM EDT
Saw the break, then saw the "First Edition" scroll on the slide and thought, "Well there's your problem." I've seen a few early ones do that after installing the 5" barrel and shroud, or in this case, a thread adapter that is larger diameter than the hole in the front of the slide. I don't think that ever was decided to to be reason, but every one that I've seen broken that way had something that would possibly impact the front of the slide as it cycled.
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 10:09:21 AM EDT
I have seen M16's explode and put upper receiver shrapnal in the operators face.
Link Posted: 3/7/2010 10:15:52 AM EDT
That sucks. The p22 is a fun little gun to shoot.
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