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Posted: 2/17/2010 1:49:03 AM EDT
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/7236099/Human-bones-could-reveal-truth-of-Japans-Unit-731-experiments.html





















By Julian Ryall in Tokyo


Published: 7:00AM GMT 15 Feb 2010



























The Imperial Japanese Army's notorious medical research team carried out secret human experiments regarded as some of the worst war crimes in history.










Its scientists subjected more than 10,000 people per year to grotesque Josef Mengele-style torture in the name of science, including captured Russian soldiers and downed American aircrews.










  The experiments included hanging people upside down until they choked, burying them alive, injecting air into their veins and placing them in high-pressure chambers.













Now new detail about their victims' suffering could be revealed after the authorities in Tokyo announced plans to open an investigation into human bones thought to have come from the unit.










A new search is also due to be carried out for mass graves that may contain more victims of human experiments.










The bones are thought to be from up to 100 people and were discovered in a mass grave in 1989 during construction work.










They bore the marks of saws and some of the skulls had drill holes and portions of the bone cut out. But the issue is so controversial in Japan that they have since been stored in a repository.










Acting on information from a former nurse, the authorities have announced they will re-examine the remains to determine whether they were used in some of the barbaric experiments carried out by Unit 731 in the dying days of the Second World War.










Toyo Ishii came forward to say that during the weeks after Japan's surrender in August 1945, she and her colleagues at the army hospital were ordered to bury corpses, bones and body parts – she said it was impossible to determine how many people they came from – before the Allies arrived.










In an interview, she claimed that the hospital had three mortuaries where bodies with numbered tags around their necks were stored in a pool of formalin to preserve them before they were dissected. Organs and other body parts were preserved in glass jars. The sites that Ishii pinpointed as the mass graves will now be excavated.










The remains were found on the site of an apartment complex in the Shinjuku district of the city which is scheduled for redevelopment. It means the search is likely to be the last effort to identify the victims and determine their fate.










An investigation after the remains were found in 1989 concluded they were mostly non-Japanese Asians and had probably been used in "medial education" or taken to the medical school from battlefields overseas for analysis. The health ministry has repeatedly denied requests from relatives of several Chinese whose relatives are believed to have died in Unit 731 experiments to have DNA tests carried out on the bones.










Unit 731 was mostly active in China, where it carried out biological, bacteriological and chemical weapons tests on civilians and prisoners of war, including Russian soldiers and Americans.










Others were subject to live vivisections, exposed to extreme cold or killed in tests in pressure chambers.










The extreme right wing in Japan refuses to accept that the unit was anything more than a sanitation team that operated behind the front-line troops while virtually nothing on its activities is mentioned in school history books. Many of the scientists involved in Unit 731 went on to have careers in politics, academia, business, and medicine.










"Most people do not believe it even happened; the rest just want to cover it up and forget about what Japan did during the war," said Tsuyoshi Amemiya, a retired military historian. "Young people don't know and they don't want to know."





















Interesting. I've often heard 731's horrific "experiments" are where we got most of our information on diving tables etc.


 
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 2:40:49 AM EDT
[#1]
Diving tables I used for diving were based off the US Navy's.  The USN compiled a lot of data to make their excellent dive tables.

The savages who were part of Unit 731 should have had their necks stretched.
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 2:42:29 AM EDT
[#2]
Every single one of them should have been tried and executed.
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 2:45:20 AM EDT
[#3]
fucking savages
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 3:00:20 AM EDT
[#4]
It's thought about 2,000 US, UK and Australian POW's were murdered at Unit 731

One of the most horrific aspects of the experiments at Unit 731 was that vivisection without any anesthetic on the victims was the norm as Ishii thought anesthetics would taint his results.


"……

Vivisection

Prisoners of war were subjected to vivisection without anesthesia.[13][11]
Vivisections were performed on prisoners after infecting them with various diseases. Scientists performed invasive surgery on prisoners, removing organs to study the effects of disease on the human body. These were conducted while the patients were alive because it was feared that the decomposition process would affect the results.[14][11] The infected and vivisected prisoners included men, women, children, and infants.[15]
Vivisections were also performed on pregnant women, sometimes impregnated by doctors, and the fetus removed.[16]
Prisoners had limbs amputated in order to study blood loss.[11]
Those limbs that were removed were sometimes re-attached to the opposite sides of the body.[11]
Some prisoners' limbs were frozen and amputated, while others had limbs frozen then thawed to study the effects of the resultant untreated gangrene and rotting.
Some prisoners had their stomachs surgically removed and the esophagus reattached to the intestines.[11]
Parts of the brain, lungs, liver, etc. were removed from some prisoners.[17][13][11]


In 2007, Doctor Ken Yuasa testified to the Japan Times that, "I was afraid during my first vivisection, but the second time around, it was much easier. By the third time, I was willing to do it." He believes at least 1,000 people, including surgeons, were involved in vivisections over mainland China.[18]

]Weapons testing

Human targets were used to test grenades positioned at various distances and in different positions.[11]
Flame throwers were tested on humans.[11]
Humans were tied to stakes and used as targets to test germ-releasing bombs, chemical weapons, and explosive bombs.[11]

Germ warfare attacks

Prisoners were injected with inoculations of disease, disguised as vaccinations, to study their effects.[11]
To study the effects of untreated venereal diseases, male and female prisoners were deliberately infected with syphilis and gonorrhea, then studied[11].
Prisoners were infested with fleas in order to acquire large quantities of disease-carrying fleas for the purposes of studying the viability of germ warfare[citation needed].
Plague fleas, infected clothing, and infected supplies encased in bombs were dropped on various targets. The resulting cholera, anthrax, and plague were estimated to have killed around 400,000 Chinese civilians.[11]
Tularemia was tested on Chinese civilians.[19]
Unit 731 and its affiliated units (Unit 1644, Unit 100, et cetera) were involved in research, development, and experimental deployment of epidemic-creating biowarfare weapons in assaults against the Chinese populace (both civilian and military) throughout World War II. Plague-infested fleas, bred in the laboratories of Unit 731 and Unit 1644, were spread by low-flying airplanes upon Chinese cities, coastal Ningbo in 1940, and Changde, Hunan Province, in 1941. This military aerial spraying killed thousands of people with bubonic plague epidemics.[20]

Other experiments

Prisoners were subjected to other experiments such as:
being hung upside down to see how long it would take for them to choke to death.[11]
having air injected into their arteries to determine the time until the onset of embolism.[11]
having horse urine injected into their kidneys.[11]
being deprived of food and water to determine the length of time until death.
being placed into high-pressure chambers until death.
being exposed to extreme temperatures and developing frostbite to determine how long humans could survive with such an affliction, and to determine the effects of rotting and gangrene on human flesh.[11]
having experiments performed upon prisoners to determine the relationship between temperature, burns, and human survival.
being placed into centrifuges and spun until dead.
having animal blood injected and the effects studied.
being exposed to lethal doses of x-ray radiation.
having various chemical weapons tested on prisoners inside gas chambers.
being injected with sea water to determine if it could be a substitute for saline.
being buried alive.

Biological warfare

Japanese scientists performed tests on prisoners with plague, cholera, smallpox, botulism, and other diseases.[21] This research led to the development of the defoliation bacilli bomb and the flea bomb used to spread the bubonic plague.[22] Some of these bombs were designed with ceramic (porcelain) shells, an idea proposed by Ishii in 1938.
These bombs enabled Japanese soldiers to launch biological attacks, infecting agriculture, reservoirs, wells, and other areas with anthrax, plague-carrier fleas, typhoid, dysentery, cholera, and other deadly pathogens. During biological bomb experiments, scientists dressed in protective suits would examine the dying victims. Infected food supplies and clothing were dropped by airplane into areas of China not occupied by Japanese forces. In addition, poisoned food and candies were given out to unsuspecting victims and children, and the results examined."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 3:00:21 AM EDT
[#5]
All is fair in love and war.Sounds mild compared to my first wife.
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 3:04:09 AM EDT
[#6]
Tag, Never heard about this
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 3:05:30 AM EDT
[#7]
beat by vito and some folks just ain't worth the time.
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 3:18:27 AM EDT
[#8]



Quoted:


All is fair in love and war.Sounds mild compared to my first wife.


For fucks sake.............



 
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 3:18:58 AM EDT
[#9]


Both the Nazis and the Japanese conducted decompression experiments on prisoners that resulted in their deaths.  But they did not develop the dive tables we use today.





The first dive tables were devised by the Englishman John Scott Haldane and colleagues in the period 1906-1908, following their landmark experiments on goat decompression. Why goats? As stated in the original paper (Boycott 1908):



...goats were very suitable animals in that slight symptoms were presented to our notice in a definite objective form. The lesser symptoms of caisson disease cannot be neglected, and there are reasons for supposing that their occurrence is not exactly conditioned by those experimental circumstances which in a more severe form produced serious and fatal results. They cannot be properly detected in mice or guinea-pigs or even in rabbits. Goats, while they are not perhaps such delicate indicators as monkeys or dogs, and though they are somewhat stupid and definitely insensitive to pain, are capable of entering into emotional relationships with their surroundings, animate and inanimate, of a kind sufficiently nice to enable those who are familiar with them to detect slight abnormalities with a fair degree of certainty.



The animals, 85 in number, used in the present experiments were a mixed collection of ordinary English goats of no particular breed...The commonest symptom which we have observed [of decompression sickness] consists of the exhibition of signs indicating that the animal feels uneasy in one or more of its legs. The limb, most commonly a fore-leg, is held up prominently in the air and the animal is evidently loth to bear weight upon it.



Haldane's tables were first adopted first by the British Navy, and later (1915) by the U.S. Navy. In the 1930s these tables were modified by the U.S. Navy, based on empiric observation of DCS incidence in sailors diving various profiles in a hyperbaric chamber. In its modifications the U.S. Navy always allowed for a certain percentage of bends in its divers, realizing that zero percentage is not realistic for deep diving, and that a decompression chamber is available for immediate treatment (at least on training dives).

Link Posted: 2/17/2010 3:23:38 AM EDT
[#10]
Japan should have been nuked completely off the map.
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 3:31:55 AM EDT
[#11]
And in case anyones wondering why the Japanese conducted tests on Allied POW's when they had already conducted tests on Chinese POW's…

They wanted to see how Europeans would react compared to Asiatics.

It was widely covered here in the UK about 20 years ago and was the subject of a TV documentary.

Nothing the Nazis did was even in the same ballpark as the horrors that were everyday practice in Unit 731.  Ishii and his team were behaving like Dr Frankenstein on crack.
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 3:42:02 AM EDT
[#12]
The Japs remain a very racist people.  They would do this all over again if it would gain them economic advantage over others.
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 3:45:37 AM EDT
[#13]




Quoted:

The Japs remain a very racist people. They would do this all over again if it would gain them economic advantage over others.




Nonsense.  The old ways are gone forever.  Now all they want to do is eat Big Macs and sniff schoolgirl's panties.
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 3:46:21 AM EDT
[#14]
Just another reason why I'll never have any respect for Douglas MacArthur: He refused many opportunities to prosecute Japanese for war crimes, and commuted the sentences of many who were tried and found guilty of horrors like Unit 731.
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 3:49:05 AM EDT
[#15]
So how are those Toyotas working out for you?




I've never understood how Americans who were old enough to remember WWII bought Japanese cars, or why American Jews continue to buy Porsche, BMW, and particularly Mercedes.

I don't think it's Taiwan we need to worry about the PRC attacking- they haven't forgotten Nanjing.
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 3:54:15 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
All is fair in love and war.Sounds mild compared to my first wife.


the shit they did in Manchuria was not "all is fair in love and war"

they committed some of the most brutal and disgusting things you can imagine... raping women to get them pregnant to conduct vivisection on them and the fetus or child... using the child for experiments... experiments with limb transplants, salt water for a blood thickening solution for trauma, bio weapons.. you name  it, those fuckers did it and had it wiped under the carpet so we could have the information.

they got a free pass after the war compared to Germany and they did not deserve it.

ETA:
Quoted:

Quoted:
The Japs remain a very racist people. They would do this all over again if it would gain them economic advantage over others.


Nonsense.  The old ways are gone forever.  Now all they want to do is eat Big Macs and sniff schoolgirl's panties.


spoken like someone completely ignorant, unless that is a tongue in cheek joke.
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 3:55:42 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Both the Nazis and the Japanese conducted decompression experiments on prisoners that resulted in their deaths.  But they did not develop the dive tables we use today.


The first dive tables were devised by the Englishman John Scott Haldane and colleagues in the period 1906-1908, following their landmark experiments on goat decompression. Why goats? As stated in the original paper (Boycott 1908):

...goats were very suitable animals in that slight symptoms were presented to our notice in a definite objective form. The lesser symptoms of caisson disease cannot be neglected, and there are reasons for supposing that their occurrence is not exactly conditioned by those experimental circumstances which in a more severe form produced serious and fatal results. They cannot be properly detected in mice or guinea-pigs or even in rabbits. Goats, while they are not perhaps such delicate indicators as monkeys or dogs, and though they are somewhat stupid and definitely insensitive to pain, are capable of entering into emotional relationships with their surroundings, animate and inanimate, of a kind sufficiently nice to enable those who are familiar with them to detect slight abnormalities with a fair degree of certainty.

The animals, 85 in number, used in the present experiments were a mixed collection of ordinary English goats of no particular breed...The commonest symptom which we have observed [of decompression sickness] consists of the exhibition of signs indicating that the animal feels uneasy in one or more of its legs. The limb, most commonly a fore-leg, is held up prominently in the air and the animal is evidently loth to bear weight upon it.

Haldane's tables were first adopted first by the British Navy, and later (1915) by the U.S. Navy. In the 1930s these tables were modified by the U.S. Navy, based on empiric observation of DCS incidence in sailors diving various profiles in a hyperbaric chamber. In its modifications the U.S. Navy always allowed for a certain percentage of bends in its divers, realizing that zero percentage is not realistic for deep diving, and that a decompression chamber is available for immediate treatment (at least on training dives).



the U.S. Navy was good at taking a SEAL or other diver... putting them on a particular blend of O2, dropping them in pressure until they passed out... then pulling the pressure off..  helped with dive tables, and for individual personnel it gave them their Partial Pressure.
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 3:56:40 AM EDT
[#18]
Not to take away from the atrocities Germany or Japan did, but I'd bet my paycheck that Russia did these same kinds of things.  Also, our hands arne't clean either.  In the 50's, we experimented on people with birth defects and mental illness to include sterilization.

Like I said, I'm not defending Germany or Japan but the victor get to write the history.
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 3:57:37 AM EDT
[#19]
It is not too late...
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 3:58:38 AM EDT
[#20]
We got our payback







140,000 people dead in one day.......



America is not one to be fucked with

Link Posted: 2/17/2010 4:00:36 AM EDT
[#21]
Tag for later

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Link Posted: 2/17/2010 4:07:42 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
So how are those Toyotas working out for you?




I've never understood how Americans who were old enough to remember WWII bought Japanese cars, or why American Jews continue to buy Porsche, BMW, and particularly Mercedes.

I don't think it's Taiwan we need to worry about the PRC attacking- they haven't forgotten Nanjing.


Same reason why we many of us don't believe in paying reparations to the blacks for slavery.

ETA: I drive a Toyota.
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 4:23:58 AM EDT
[#23]
being exposed to lethal doses of x-ray radiation


A few years down the road they got a whole shit load of experimental data of that nature to ponder.
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 4:33:54 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Not to take away from the atrocities Germany or Japan did, but I'd bet my paycheck that Russia did these same kinds of things.  Also, our hands arne't clean either. In the 50's, we experimented on people with birth defects and mental illness to include sterilization.

Like I said, I'm not defending Germany or Japan but the victor get to write the history.


Kids too, read about the Willowbrook State School, and Walter E. Fernald State School, and lastly Dr. Henry Cotton.
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 4:57:40 AM EDT
[#25]
I read about that some years ago, but interesting that it was never taught in any school that im aware of.

There were trials held for some members, but by the Soviets and not us.


Link Posted: 2/17/2010 4:59:05 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Not to take away from the atrocities Germany or Japan did, but I'd bet my paycheck that Russia did these same kinds of things.  Also, our hands arne't clean either.  In the 50's, we experimented on people with birth defects and mental illness to include sterilization.

Like I said, I'm not defending Germany or Japan but the victor get to write the history.


As bad as the Tuskegee Experiment was, comparing the two is like comparing a nuclear reactor to your microwave.  But if cognitive dissonance is your thing...go for it.
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 5:08:12 AM EDT
[#27]
Also there is a right wing hard core group of Japanese that think they did no wrong and would of course do it all over again if given the opportunity.
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 5:09:44 AM EDT
[#28]
I always wonder why the Japanese are let off the hook for stuff like this, but the Germans are seen as the ultimate in evil for doing less. PC, maybe?
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 5:11:06 AM EDT
[#29]



Quoted:


I always wonder why the Japanese are let off the hook for stuff like this, but the Germans are seen as the ultimate in evil for doing less. PC, maybe?


I wouldn't consider what the Germans did to be "less" than what the Japs did.



 
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 5:19:25 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
All is fair in love and war.Sounds mild compared to my first wife.


i can see why she left you

Link Posted: 2/17/2010 5:23:56 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
So how are those Toyotas working out for you?




I've never understood how Americans who were old enough to remember WWII bought Japanese cars, or why American Jews continue to buy Porsche, BMW, and particularly Mercedes.

I don't think it's Taiwan we need to worry about the PRC attacking- they haven't forgotten Nanjing.


thats a dumbass statement

hey dont buy tobacco products cultivated here in the south.. because at one time it was on the bloody backs of slaves.

dont buy your shit at walmart or anywhere else because maybe it was done at the expense of child slaves in india and China...


Link Posted: 2/17/2010 5:24:24 AM EDT
[#32]
I heard Unit 731 scientists went on to become Toyota engineers.
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 5:28:32 AM EDT
[#33]
Sounds like two nukes wasn't near enough.


Link Posted: 2/17/2010 5:31:58 AM EDT
[#34]
Probably no nation or society on earth has not committed some great atrocity upon another people sometime in its cumulative past.

The only question is:  How do the living, breathing descendants carry on, under the burden and the benefit of such a heritage?

Yes, I wrote the word "benefit".  Who can deny that the conquerors of a land derive benefit?

There are three templates:

1)  Ignore, gloss over, deny or re-write history, and simply revel in it.

2)  Indulge in apologies, reparations, self-abasement to "make restitution"

3)  Acknowledge the facts of the past, state that it is history, resolve not to commit atrocities, and simply move forward.

Around the world, we see lots of 1. and 2., and neither works out very well.

I vote for the third option.

Link Posted: 2/17/2010 5:36:30 AM EDT
[#35]
Wow. That's fucked up. I guess if you want those kinds of questions answered, that's the kind of shit you'd have to do. Ugh.

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Link Posted: 2/17/2010 5:38:13 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
We got our payback

http://www.eldoradonews.com/Blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/nuke.png

140,000 people dead in one day.......

America is not one to be fucked with


too bad we dropped the bombs on the only two Japanese cities that had most of the  Christians and were against the war.........Great planning there.
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 5:39:06 AM EDT
[#37]
http://ww2db.com/person_bio.php?person_id=541


Shiro Ishii









































Born25 Jun 1892
Died9 Oct 1959
NationalityJapan
CategoryOther



<small>Contributor: C. Peter Chen</small>

Shiro
Ishii was born in Shibayama Village, Sanbu District, Chiba Prefecture,
Japan. He studied medicine at the Kyoto Imperial University. In 1922,
after joining the Japanese Army, he was assigned to the 1st Army
Hospital and Army Medical School in Tokyo, Japan. In 1924, he returned
to Kyoto Imperial University for post-graduate studies. Between 1928
and 1930, he traveled to the West, researching biological and chemical
warfare from the experience from WW1. In 1932, he was chosen by the
Japanese Army to begin biological warfare research at the Zhongma
Fortress in Beiyinhe, which was outside of Harbin in Manchuria,
northeast China (Manchukuo). In 1935, Ishii shut down the Zhongma
Fortress due to a security breach, and shortly after set up a very
large facility in Pingfang, which was 24 kilometers south of Harbin;
the new facility had 150 buildings over six square kilometers of land,
and the facility was publicly known as a water purification research
center. In 1940, he was appointed the Chief of Biological Warfare
Section of the Japanese Kwantung Army, while at the same time holding
the title of the head of the Bacteriological Department of the Japanese
Army Medical Academy. In 1941, his unit was formally renamed the
Epidemic Prevention and Water Purification Department of the Kwantung
Army, also known as Unit 731. In 1942, he began conducting tests of
germ warfare agents on Chinese prisoners of war, Chinese civilians, and
in combat. Some of the germs he experimented with included bubonic
plague, cholera, and anthrax, among others. Between 1942 and 1945, he
was the Chief of the Medical Section of the Japanese First Army. In
1945, as the end seemed near, Japanese troops attempted to destroy Unit
731's headquarters to destroy all evidence; as part of this effort,
Ishii ordered 150 remaining subjects killed.






After the war, Ishii was arrested by American troops. As with all
other Unit 731 leaders, he was granted immunity by Allied leaders in
exchange for their knowledge in biological and chemical warfare.

According to Cambridge University lecturer Richard Drayton, Ishii moved
to Maryland, United States to continue his research of biological
weapons, but his daughter Harumi noted that Ishii remained in Japan
after the war. He passed away from throat cancer in Tokyo, Japan in
1959.




<small>

Source: Wikipedia.



</small>

 
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 5:50:54 AM EDT
[#38]
Rich history of this stuff in Japan.  The Samurai used to test the sharpness of their katanas on prisoners.  The apple did not fall far from the tree...
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 5:59:25 AM EDT
[#39]
Don't preach to us about gun control Japan!
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 6:02:16 AM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
All is fair in love and war.Sounds mild compared to my first wife.


STFU.
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 6:10:50 AM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
http://ww2db.com/person_bio.php?person_id=541

Shiro Ishii

Born25 Jun 1892
Died9 Oct 1959
NationalityJapan
CategoryOther

<small>Contributor: C. Peter Chen</small>
ShiroIshii was born in Shibayama Village, Sanbu District, Chiba Prefecture,Japan. He studied medicine at the Kyoto Imperial University. In 1922,after joining the Japanese Army, he was assigned to the 1st ArmyHospital and Army Medical School in Tokyo, Japan. In 1924, he returnedto Kyoto Imperial University for post-graduate studies. Between 1928and 1930, he traveled to the West, researching biological and chemicalwarfare from the experience from WW1. In 1932, he was chosen by theJapanese Army to begin biological warfare research at the ZhongmaFortress in Beiyinhe, which was outside of Harbin in Manchuria,northeast China (Manchukuo). In 1935, Ishii shut down the ZhongmaFortress due to a security breach, and shortly after set up a verylarge facility in Pingfang, which was 24 kilometers south of Harbin;the new facility had 150 buildings over six square kilometers of land,and the facility was publicly known as a water purification researchcenter. In 1940, he was appointed the Chief of Biological WarfareSection of the Japanese Kwantung Army, while at the same time holdingthe title of the head of the Bacteriological Department of the JapaneseArmy Medical Academy. In 1941, his unit was formally renamed theEpidemic Prevention and Water Purification Department of the KwantungArmy, also known as Unit 731. In 1942, he began conducting tests ofgerm warfare agents on Chinese prisoners of war, Chinese civilians, andin combat. Some of the germs he experimented with included bubonicplague, cholera, and anthrax, among others. Between 1942 and 1945, hewas the Chief of the Medical Section of the Japanese First Army. In1945, as the end seemed near, Japanese troops attempted to destroy Unit731's headquarters to destroy all evidence; as part of this effort,Ishii ordered 150 remaining subjects killed.

After the war, Ishii was arrested by American troops. As with allother Unit 731 leaders, he was granted immunity by Allied leaders inexchange for their knowledge in biological and chemical warfare.According to Cambridge University lecturer Richard Drayton, Ishii movedto Maryland, United States to continue his research of biologicalweapons, but his daughter Harumi noted that Ishii remained in Japanafter the war. He passed away from throat cancer in Tokyo, Japan in1959.

<small>
Source: Wikipedia.

</small>  


Same deal with the Nazi scientists & doctors...

Seems we benefited from those atrocities just as much without having to actually commit them.
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 6:12:15 AM EDT
[#42]
I don't know how you could possibly subject another human to that level of torture repeatedly.
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 6:22:59 AM EDT
[#43]
For the people saying 'well, the Nazis did bad things too'…

Well, if you bailed out of a B-17 over Germany, you were not going to have this done to you.






Japan Admits Dissecting WW II POWs


By Thomas Easton

The Baltimore Sun


UKUOKA, Japan "I could never again wear a white smock," says Dr. Toshio Tono, dressed in a white running jacket at his hospital and recalling events of 50 years ago. "It's because the prisoners thought that we were doctors, since they could see the white smocks, that they didn't struggle. They never dreamed they would be dissected."

The prisoners were eight American airmen, knocked out of the sky over southern Japan during the waning months of World War U, and then torn apart organ by organ while they were still alive.

What occurred here 50 years ago this month, at the anatomy department of Kyushu University, has been largely forgotten in Japan and is virtually unknown in the United States. American prisoners of war were subjected to horrific medical experiments. All of the prisoners died. Most of the physicians and asistants then did their best to hide the evidence of what they had done.

Fukuoka is midway between Hiroshima and Nagasaki, cities that are planning elaborate ceremonies to mark the devastation caused by the United States'dropping the first atomic bombs. But neither Fukuoka nor the university plans to mark its own moment of infamy.

The gruesome experiments performed at the university were variations on research programs Japan conducted in territories it occupied during the war. In the most notorious of these efforts, the Japanese Imperial Army's Unit 731 killed thousands of Chinese and Russians held prisoner in Japanese-occupied Manchuria, in experiments to develop chemical and biological weapons.

Ken Yuasa, now a frail, 70-year-old physician in Tokyo, belonged to a military company stationed just south of Unit 731's base at Harbin, Manchuria. He recalls joining other doctors to watch as a prisoner was shot in the stomach, to give Japanese surgeons practice at extracting bullets.

While the victim was still alive, the doctors also practiced amputations.

"It wasn't just my experience," Yuasa says. "It was done everywhere."

Kyushu University stands out as the only site where Americans were incontrovertibly used in dissections and the only known site where experiments were done in Japan.

On May 5, 1945, an American B-29 bomber was flying with a dozen other aircraft after bombing Tachiaral Air Base in southwestern Japan and beginning the return flight to the island fortress of Guam.

Kinzou Kasuya, a 19-year-old Japanese pilot flying one of the Japanese fighters in pursuit of the Americans, rammed his aircraft into the fuselage of the B-29, destroying both planes.

No one knows for certain how many Americans were in the B-29; its crew had been hastily assembled on Guam. But villagers in Japan who witnessed the collision in the air saw about a dozen parachutes blossom.

One of the Americans died when the cords of his, parachute were severed by another Japanese plane. A second was alive when he reached the ground. He shot all but his last bullet at the villagers coming toward him, then used the last on himself.

Two others were quickly stabbed or shot to death.

At least nine were taken into custody.

B-29 crews were despised for the grim results of their raids. So some of the captives were beaten.

The local authorities assumed that the most knowledgeable was the captain, Marvin Watkins. He was sent to Tokyo for interrogation, where was tortured but nonetheless survived the war.

Every available account asserts that a military physician and a colonel in a local regiment were the two key figures in what happened next. What happened cannot be easily explained. Perhaps caring for the Americans was an impossible burden, especially because some were injured. Perhaps food was scarce.

Whatever the reason, the colonel and doctor decided to make the prisoners available for medical experiments, and Kyushu University became a willing participant.

Teddy Ponczka was the first to be handed over to the doctors and their assistants. He had already been stabbed, in either his right shoulder or his chest. According to Tono, the American assumed he was about to be treated for the wound when he was taken to an operating room.

But the incision went far deeper. A doctor wanted to test surgery's effects on the respiratory system, so one lung was removed. The wound was stitched closed.

How Teddy Ponczka died is in dispute. According to U.S. military records, he was anesthetized during the operation, and then the gas mask was removed from his face. A surgeon, Taro Torisu, reopened the incision and reached into Ponczka's chest. In the bland words of the military report, Torisu "stopped the heart action."

Tono remembers events differently. The first experiment was followed by a second, he says. Ponczka was given intravenous injections of sea water, to determine if sea water could be used as a substitute for sterile saline solution, used to increase blood volume in the wounded or those in'shock. Tono held the bottle of sea water. He says Ponczka bled to death.

Then it was the turn of the others.

The Japanese wanted to learn whether a patient could survive the partial loss of his liver. They wanted to learn if epilepsy could be controlled by removing part of the brain. According to U.S. military records, physicians also operated on -the prisoners' stomachs and necks.

All the Americans died.

"There was no debate among the doctors about whether to do the operations - that is what made it so strange," Tono says.

Word of the experiments eventually leaked out.

Thirty people were brought to trial by an Allied war crimes tribunal in Yokohama, Japan, on March 11, 1948. Charges included vivisection, wrongful removal of body parts and cannibalism - based on reports that the experimenters had eaten the livers of the Americans.

Of the 30 defendants, 23 were found guilty of various charges. (For lack of proof, the charges of cannibalism had been dismissed.) Five of the guilty were sentenced to death, four to life imprisonment. The other 14 were sentenced to shorter terms.

But the attitude of the American occupation forces began to change largely because of the start of the Korean War in June 1950. The United States had less interest in punishing Japan, an enemy-turned-ally.

In September 1950, U.S. Gen. Douglas MacArthur, as supreme commander for Allied Forces, reduced most of the sentences. By 1958, all those convicted were free. None of the death sentences was carried out.

http://www.aiipowmia.com/731/vivisection.html
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 6:30:47 AM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
All is fair in love and war.Sounds mild compared to my first wife.




Link Posted: 2/17/2010 6:40:14 AM EDT
[#45]


But we were not justified in dropping the bomb to end the war right?
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 6:51:07 AM EDT
[#46]
Others have pretty much covered it.


Unit 731 was absolutley horrific, their actions are little known outside military historians and the like.

The Japanese did some absolutely horrific things during the war, I can't remember the book, but their was one verified account of a Japanese garrison that was eating Allied POW's, George Bush Sr. was shot down near it, but managed to swim to sea.  After the war it was discovered that the Japanese commander and his officers had been dining on Allied POW's and tried to cover up their actions

ETA:  I believe the book was called "Flyboys"
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 6:56:48 AM EDT
[#47]
From what I understand, As  part of the process (Immunity Deal) -  of letting most of the Japanese scientists/doctors/Soldiers go, was Them turning over all the records of the experiments? Supposedly they kept very detailed records of most or all of the experiments. That's why our guys (scientists) got such a hard on for the data, and cut the deal to let the Japanese guys get away with it. Why study bones when we have all the experiment data?
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 6:58:56 AM EDT
[#48]



Quoted:


http://ww2db.com/person_bio.php?person_id=541





Shiro Ishii





















Born25 Jun 1892
Died9 Oct 1959
NationalityJapan
CategoryOther


<small>Contributor: C. Peter Chen</small>
ShiroIshii was born in Shibayama Village, Sanbu District, Chiba Prefecture,Japan. He studied medicine at the Kyoto Imperial University. In 1922,after joining the Japanese Army, he was assigned to the 1st ArmyHospital and Army Medical School in Tokyo, Japan. In 1924, he returnedto Kyoto Imperial University for post-graduate studies. Between 1928and 1930, he traveled to the West, researching biological and chemicalwarfare from the experience from WW1. In 1932, he was chosen by theJapanese Army to begin biological warfare research at the ZhongmaFortress in Beiyinhe, which was outside of Harbin in Manchuria,northeast China (Manchukuo). In 1935, Ishii shut down the ZhongmaFortress due to a security breach, and shortly after set up a verylarge facility in Pingfang, which was 24 kilometers south of Harbin;the new facility had 150 buildings over six square kilometers of land,and the facility was publicly known as a water purification researchcenter. In 1940, he was appointed the Chief of Biological WarfareSection of the Japanese Kwantung Army, while at the same time holdingthe title of the head of the Bacteriological Department of the JapaneseArmy Medical Academy. In 1941, his unit was formally renamed theEpidemic Prevention and Water Purification Department of the KwantungArmy, also known as Unit 731. In 1942, he began conducting tests ofgerm warfare agents on Chinese prisoners of war, Chinese civilians, andin combat. Some of the germs he experimented with included bubonicplague, cholera, and anthrax, among others. Between 1942 and 1945, hewas the Chief of the Medical Section of the Japanese First Army. In1945, as the end seemed near, Japanese troops attempted to destroy Unit731's headquarters to destroy all evidence; as part of this effort,Ishii ordered 150 remaining subjects killed.




After the war, Ishii was arrested by American troops. As with allother Unit 731 leaders, he was granted immunity by Allied leaders inexchange for their knowledge in biological and chemical warfare.According to Cambridge University lecturer Richard Drayton, Ishii movedto Maryland, United States to continue his research of biologicalweapons, but his daughter Harumi noted that Ishii remained in Japanafter the war. He passed away from throat cancer in Tokyo, Japan in1959.



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Source: Wikipedia.



</small>  


how was this different with Nazi scientist? Except they are Asian and not white.




 
Link Posted: 2/17/2010 6:58:57 AM EDT
[#49]
I worked for the Japanese and let's just say I'm not a fan of them today.

The problems w/Toyota doesn't surprise me. Mistakes, errors, problems, are non-existent in
Japanese companies and you are not allowed to bring them up or talk about them.

They are like cats in a litter box covering shit up.

I had relatives in the Bataan Death March.
The one thing I didn't like about McArthur, is he should have allowed all the war criminals to be
gathered up and hung!

The Japanese were more brutal than the Germans.


Link Posted: 2/17/2010 7:01:43 AM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
Quoted:
http://ww2db.com/person_bio.php?person_id=541

Shiro Ishii

Born25 Jun 1892
Died9 Oct 1959
NationalityJapan
CategoryOther

<small>Contributor: C. Peter Chen</small>
ShiroIshii was born in Shibayama Village, Sanbu District, Chiba Prefecture,Japan. He studied medicine at the Kyoto Imperial University. In 1922,after joining the Japanese Army, he was assigned to the 1st ArmyHospital and Army Medical School in Tokyo, Japan. In 1924, he returnedto Kyoto Imperial University for post-graduate studies. Between 1928and 1930, he traveled to the West, researching biological and chemicalwarfare from the experience from WW1. In 1932, he was chosen by theJapanese Army to begin biological warfare research at the ZhongmaFortress in Beiyinhe, which was outside of Harbin in Manchuria,northeast China (Manchukuo). In 1935, Ishii shut down the ZhongmaFortress due to a security breach, and shortly after set up a verylarge facility in Pingfang, which was 24 kilometers south of Harbin;the new facility had 150 buildings over six square kilometers of land,and the facility was publicly known as a water purification researchcenter. In 1940, he was appointed the Chief of Biological WarfareSection of the Japanese Kwantung Army, while at the same time holdingthe title of the head of the Bacteriological Department of the JapaneseArmy Medical Academy. In 1941, his unit was formally renamed theEpidemic Prevention and Water Purification Department of the KwantungArmy, also known as Unit 731. In 1942, he began conducting tests ofgerm warfare agents on Chinese prisoners of war, Chinese civilians, andin combat. Some of the germs he experimented with included bubonicplague, cholera, and anthrax, among others. Between 1942 and 1945, hewas the Chief of the Medical Section of the Japanese First Army. In1945, as the end seemed near, Japanese troops attempted to destroy Unit731's headquarters to destroy all evidence; as part of this effort,Ishii ordered 150 remaining subjects killed.

After the war, Ishii was arrested by American troops. As with allother Unit 731 leaders, he was granted immunity by Allied leaders inexchange for their knowledge in biological and chemical warfare.According to Cambridge University lecturer Richard Drayton, Ishii movedto Maryland, United States to continue his research of biologicalweapons, but his daughter Harumi noted that Ishii remained in Japanafter the war. He passed away from throat cancer in Tokyo, Japan in1959.

<small>
Source: Wikipedia.

</small>  


Same deal with the Nazi scientists & doctors...

Seems we benefited from those atrocities just as much without having to actually commit them.




I was wondering when this was going to be pointed out.


Kinda funny how clueless most Americans are about what actually happened and how we utilized the info...










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