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Posted: 6/25/2017 1:57:13 PM EDT
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Why did it take so long for IPA to become popular in this country?
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Posted: 6/25/2017 2:02:12 PM EDT
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Why did it take so long for IPA to become popular in this country? |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 2:22:26 PM EDT
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when can you ship me a bottle of Pappys? any age would work.
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Posted: 6/25/2017 2:23:06 PM EDT
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What is the markup on a 1.75L Makers Mark?
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Posted: 6/25/2017 2:32:49 PM EDT
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Does red wine come to the store after having been stored at 55 degrees and controlled humidity, or is it in a truck in 100 degree heat like everything else?
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Posted: 6/25/2017 2:56:57 PM EDT
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Why is it so hard to find whisker Blake port wine?
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Posted: 6/25/2017 3:08:38 PM EDT
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when can you ship me a bottle of Pappys? any age would work. 
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Posted: 6/25/2017 3:21:24 PM EDT
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What is the markup on a 1.75L Makers Mark? 
Has MM raised their prices in recent years? Yes. Makers is aged at least 5 years, 9 months. So the bottle you bought today was probably barreled 6 years ago. So depletion have gone up 12%(just a made up number) since then? How do you control depletion? How do you slow it down and still make profit? Easy, raise prices. I know it sounds like I am dodging the question, but I hope I answered your question. |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 3:30:53 PM EDT
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Does red wine come to the store after having been stored at 55 degrees and controlled humidity, or is it in a truck in 100 degree heat like everything else? The easy answer is yes, it is properly stored. Our suppliers would not allow us to mistreat their product to the point of quality loss. |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 3:36:07 PM EDT
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How do manufacturers/distillers/marketing companies decide where to allocate output?
How do they decide which regions of the country or which distributors get how how much of each product that is allocated. I'm talking about products that are often in short supply and would sell quickly in any market. For example, there has been almost zero Weller of any variety available in the Chattanooga, TN area for a couple years. But (until very recently) I could drive down to Dalton, GA and get plenty and it was the same for a couple other brands that were scarce. When I asked stores here and down there they both said it was due to the different distributors receiving different amounts of product. So why the difference? |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 3:38:54 PM EDT
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Why is it so hard to find whisker Blake port wine? 
Port wines are not big sellers (and I am being kind). Maybe if some Rapper would sing about it (helps Moet, for one), or some Housewives from somewhere(they did wonders for Rose'), or maybe a movie with it in the backdrop ( ever see Sideways? It put Pinot Noir on the map) it might make a resurgence. Retailers devote real estate to what turns. I know in my state, once a retailer buys it, he has a few days to decide to send it back, after that, he owns it. I am forbidden by law to take it back. So the best place to look is at the large retailers who pride themselves on a large assortment. Total Wine, Bevmo and the sort. |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 3:46:59 PM EDT
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How do manufacturers/distillers/marketing companies decide where to allocate output? Lot's of reasons combined. Something to the effect of; want 10 cases of brand X? You gotta buy 250 cases of brand Y and 500 cases of brand Z. How do they decide which regions of the country or which distributors get how how much of each product that is allocated. I'm talking about products that are often in short supply and would sell quickly in any market. For example, there has been almost zero Weller of any variety available in the Chattanooga, TN area for a couple years. But (until very recently) I could drive down to Dalton, GA and get plenty and it was the same for a couple other brands that were scarce. When I asked stores here and down there they both said it was due to the different distributors receiving different amounts of product. So why the difference? Most liquor Wholesalers in the US are still privately held and have been in business for 50-100 years. Family businesses. Lots of relationships. this and also the formula as described above, is a couple of examples of how the decisions are made. |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 6:11:29 PM EDT
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St Augustine Distillery told me that Florida has a mandatory 33%/33%/33% split from manufacturer, to distributor, to retailer from the retail price. Is that correct?
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Posted: 6/25/2017 6:47:40 PM EDT
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St Augustine Distillery told me that Florida has a mandatory 33%/33%/33% split from manufacturer, to distributor, to retailer from the retail price. Is that correct? |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 7:31:25 PM EDT
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Do the various wholesalers/distributors tend to have exclusive rights to certain brands within their area?
Could you give a synopsis of how that generally works? Who determines who can sell what brands and where they can sell them? Do the same rules apply to wine and distilled spirits or are they handled differently? |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 7:47:49 PM EDT
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Depends. The more expensive the wine, the better temperature control. Easy answer? The cheap stuff, stored at whse temp. Some large areas are cooled ( I am talking hundreds of thousands of sq. ft of floor space) and the really good stuff (think $100 and up retail) is strictly controlled. The temperature in a warehouse can be reasonable comfortable without A/C. Even in Florida. With the right ventilation and insulation it is not too bad. All of our trucks in Fl. are temperature controlled and have been for quite a few years. The easy answer is yes, it is properly stored. Our suppliers would not allow us to mistreat their product to the point of quality loss. |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 7:52:19 PM EDT
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Do the various wholesalers/distributors tend to have exclusive rights to certain brands within their area? Typically yes. Could you give a synopsis of how that generally works? Mr Beam or Mr Tito's comes to a contractual agreement with the Wholesaler. There are 5-6 major wholesalers across the country. Also many smaller wholesalers. You can imagine how a larger wholesaler that covers multiple states (some 15-20 states or more) can craft huge contracts. Some suppliers will even commit their business to one supplier wherever they operate. Keep in mind, those contracts, like any business, stipulate performance and expectations. On both sides. For example, Mr Tito's will have a team in place (bigger states like Fl, Ca, NY, Texas especially, smaller states may share a "team") to monitor and assist. There are big chain customers and smaller independent along with everything in between that appreciate different levels of support. There is marketing, hands on sales forces, advertising and tons of other day to day operations. Grocery Stores, liquor stores, hotels, restaurants, convenience stores, country clubs....the list goes on and on. Who determines who can sell what brands and where they can sell them? Generally the Distillers and Wineries themselves. Contracts with specific commitments are in place similar to many other industries. Do the same rules apply to wine and distilled spirits or are they handled differently? Pretty much the same. |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 8:43:24 PM EDT
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Do the various wholesalers/distributors tend to have exclusive rights to certain brands within their area? Typically yes. Could you give a synopsis of how that generally works? Mr Beam or Mr Tito's comes to a contractual agreement with the Wholesaler. There are 5-6 major wholesalers across the country. Also many smaller wholesalers. You can imagine how a larger wholesaler that covers multiple states (some 15-20 states or more) can craft huge contracts. Some suppliers will even commit their business to one supplier wherever they operate. Keep in mind, those contracts, like any business, stipulate performance and expectations. On both sides. For example, Mr Tito's will have a team in place (bigger states like Fl, Ca, NY, Texas especially, smaller states may share a "team") to monitor and assist. There are big chain customers and smaller independent along with everything in between that appreciate different levels of support. There is marketing, hands on sales forces, advertising and tons of other day to day operations. Grocery Stores, liquor stores, hotels, restaurants, convenience stores, country clubs....the list goes on and on. Who determines who can sell what brands and where they can sell them? Generally the Distillers and Wineries themselves. Contracts with specific commitments are in place similar to many other industries. Do the same rules apply to wine and distilled spirits or are they handled differently? Pretty much the same. |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 9:42:39 PM EDT
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Is there a difference in getting domestic whiskey bought for your business compared to Irish, Japanese, or Scotch whisky? Or by the time it reaches you its all the same?
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Posted: 6/26/2017 10:48:16 AM EDT
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RNDC, Premier (BB), or Southern?
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Posted: 6/26/2017 10:54:34 AM EDT
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Is there any large retailer that you find more difficult to deal with than others?
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Posted: 6/26/2017 6:05:46 PM EDT
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Any word about an Elijah Craig 12 year return? Perhaps as a "limited" release a la their 18, 21, 23 year expressions?
ETA: is Old Grand Dad BiB and 114 safe from discontinuation/price hikes in the immediate future? |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 10:12:32 AM EDT
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RNDC, Premier (BB), or Southern? |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 10:16:19 AM EDT
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Is there any large retailer that you find more difficult to deal with than others? |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 1:51:15 PM EDT
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Nothing less than the best. There is no question who that is. 
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Posted: 6/27/2017 4:55:07 PM EDT
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Still dont know....wanna tell me which accounts have allocated bourbons on the shelf in Central Florida, or not? Also, unfortunately, lots of retailers don't want to tie up a lot of dollars in inventory with a limited customer base. Dollars are made with volume. Restaurants on the other hand can buy really expensive product, Mark it up 300% (selling by the glass) and make bank. |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 5:56:45 PM EDT
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I'm having my bachelor's party in a few weeks. I like wheated bourbons moreso than ones with a high rye bill. Favorites include Buffalo Trace, Maker's, and Bulleit.
What'd be a good bourbon to indulge in? |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:20:44 PM EDT
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I'm having my bachelor's party in a few weeks. I like wheated bourbons moreso than ones with a high rye bill. Favorites include Buffalo Trace, Maker's, and Bulleit. What'd be a good bourbon to indulge in? |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:41:08 PM EDT
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I'm having my bachelor's party in a few weeks. I like wheated bourbons moreso than ones with a high rye bill. Favorites include Buffalo Trace, Maker's, and Bulleit. What'd be a good bourbon to indulge in? |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 10:34:11 PM EDT
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E H Taylor small batch or any of the Weller products. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm having my bachelor's party in a few weeks. I like wheated bourbons moreso than ones with a high rye bill. Favorites include Buffalo Trace, Maker's, and Bulleit. What'd be a good bourbon to indulge in? And thank you for the idea of a tasting, OP. That sounds like it'd be a fun activity |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 10:10:45 PM EDT
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@mattyvac
Florida should be able to find some Bookers in WD liquors. It has been out for about 4 months....very limited supply. Booker's |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 10:20:21 PM EDT
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@mattyvac Florida should be able to find some Bookers in WD liquors. It has been out for about 4 months....very limited supply. Booker's Bookers Rye with the MSRP of $299.99? I will buy every single one you can find me  I will drive across the state for it...Naples, Miami, Tally, Jville...anywhere.
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Posted: 7/1/2017 7:02:27 AM EDT
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I am looking for Rock Hill Farms and will be in FL for the fourth weekend. I will be in the Jacksonville area. Will I have any luck?
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Posted: 7/1/2017 8:16:10 AM EDT
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I am looking for Rock Hill Farms and will be in FL for the fourth weekend. I will be in the Jacksonville area. Will I have any luck? |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 2:21:22 PM EDT
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Do you have any insight on the Templeton Rye fiasco?
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Posted: 7/1/2017 2:34:09 PM EDT
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Booker's regular? No care Bookers Rye with the MSRP of $299.99? I will buy every single one you can find me I will drive across the state for it...Naples, Miami, Tally, Jville...anywhere.Quote HistoryQuoted:
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@mattyvac Florida should be able to find some Bookers in WD liquors. It has been out for about 4 months....very limited supply. Booker's Bookers Rye with the MSRP of $299.99? I will buy every single one you can find me I will drive across the state for it...Naples, Miami, Tally, Jville...anywhere.
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Posted: 7/1/2017 2:50:02 PM EDT
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Do you have any insight on the Templeton Rye fiasco? That being said, the brewhaha centered around an implied fact that it was distilled in Iowa. It is actually distilled at a distillery called MGP in Lawrenceville Indiana. MGP is a huge distillery that makes lots of different brands as a co-packer. Another words they use any ingredients you want and they will custom distill it for you. Lots of "craft" brands are made this way. The same as just about anything. Green beans, washing machines, you name it. Lots of Alcoholic beverages like to have a "heritage" to wrap around their product. Pretty much all the big brands do it. Research Elijah Craig, Jeffersons, Pappy Van Winkle, and most others. It is mostly Lore and Legend, some might even call it bullshit. I call it "branding" or "marketing".
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Posted: 7/2/2017 9:37:36 PM EDT
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You ask for allocated Bourbon, I deliver. Then you turn your nose up and want a Whiskey! It's like decidin' where to go out to eat with my wife.
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Posted: 7/3/2017 7:38:32 AM EDT
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Bookers regular isnt allocated ... ? It has been out of stock for 4 months. 3 asterisks in the on hand column= allocated. |
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Posted: 7/3/2017 8:30:16 AM EDT
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I drink cheap wine at home. My go-to used to be Barefoot Shraz but I haven't seen it in the stores for at least a year. Barefoot Cab and Pinot, sure, but no Shiraz. Is that likely an indication of a crop failure or is that a market/sales failure thing?
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Posted: 7/3/2017 9:30:16 AM EDT
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I *may* be down your way tomorrow, if so can I stop by for a drink?
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Posted: 7/3/2017 10:11:35 AM EDT
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Bookers regular isnt allocated ... ? |
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Posted: 7/3/2017 11:12:58 AM EDT
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Winn Dixie only at this time(as far as chains are concerned). It has been out of stock for 4 months. 3 asterisks in the on hand column= allocated. If you see the Booker's Rye, lmk. |
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Posted: 7/3/2017 11:40:14 AM EDT
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Why is the market flooded with IPA's? Have we reached saturation on them yet?
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Posted: 7/3/2017 11:53:56 AM EDT
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Why is the market flooded with IPA's? Have we reached saturation on them yet? |
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Posted: 7/3/2017 12:16:43 PM EDT
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Oh the stories I have about Costco's 2000 Bordeaux campaign...
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Posted: 7/3/2017 6:43:52 PM EDT
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I drink cheap wine at home. My go-to used to be Barefoot Shraz but I haven't seen it in the stores for at least a year. Barefoot Cab and Pinot, sure, but no Shiraz. Is that likely an indication of a crop failure or is that a market/sales failure thing? |
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Posted: 7/3/2017 6:44:44 PM EDT
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Of course. I have no specific plans. Come on down!
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Posted: 7/3/2017 7:38:50 PM EDT
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You are just probably just not looking in the right places. Chains allocate space by the best sellers. A brand like Barefoot just buys whatever is the best source. Shiraz could be from France, Australia (biggest source) or the US. Poke around some other chains and you will probably find it.  I did not know this! Hahaha... So "Barefoot Shiraz" could as easily be US or French sourced syrah as Aussie Shiraz? So much for terroir...
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Posted: 7/3/2017 7:53:53 PM EDT
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You are just probably just not looking in the right places. Chains allocate space by the best sellers. A brand like Barefoot just buys whatever is the best source. Shiraz could be from France, Australia (biggest source) or the US. Poke around some other chains and you will probably find it. |
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