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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Summersville Lake 9/26/16 Regina's first post-cert dives. Sampling and the house-sized boulder.

Posted: 10/3/2016 3:59:05 PM EDT

Two dives, first was 103 min and the second was 104. Max depth on 1st was 67ft and 42ft on 2nd.

Me showing her proper bouyancy and trim.

Me showing off. Showing her one can hover upside-down.

Being an asshole by pointing out how her SPG snap is turned backwards, a teaching moment on line traps.

Regina sampling.

House-sized Boulder

Regina dumping air.

Microbe sample.

Me.

The lake on the 26th, down about 20 feet.

My reward for carrying her gear to the water's edge.

She is comfortable in the water, she was already a strong swimmer before her training began. She is a fast learner.

Her trim needs adjusted, she swims too heads-up. I need to get her to understand the importance of dumping air promptly and get her to use her back dump.

Her buoyancy needs work and she needs to minimize all movements and develop economy of motion.

That said, it will come with time, practice and tutelage under this cruel master.

Considered shutting her air off to see if she could operate her valve.....and then my better judgment kicked in

Posted: 10/3/2016 7:09:16 PM EDT

[#1]

Cool dive thanks fer sharing...

Posted: 10/4/2016 11:15:41 PM EDT

[#2]

I ordered some trim weight pouches to put on her top tank strap.

I also have to get her to unlean swimming with her hands.

Posted: 10/4/2016 11:16:15 PM EDT

[#3]

Still gonna get her a Spear Gun

Posted: 10/5/2016 5:00:02 PM EDT

[#4]

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I also have to get her to unlean swimming with her hands.

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That is the hardest to unlearn. I want an underwater cattle prod. Only because trying students hands is a no-no.

Posted: 10/5/2016 8:01:00 PM EDT

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I am trying to get her to hold her inflator in both hands just to keep them busy. However, that contradicts me getting her to learn to dump air from her bottom dump too.

I think knock down the biggest problem first.

Hold the inflator and learn to go vertical to dump. Then add the back inflator.

Eventually, I will replace her and my suicide hooks with snap bolts too. I need to order some stainless snap bolts and went scrounging when I set our regulators up. I didn't want to cannibalize an existing set.

We won't be strict DIR but we will be ahead of 99% of most recreational divers when I am through. Dangling and loose crap is a pet peeve of mine.

Her trim weight finally shipped.

Posted: 10/5/2016 8:06:45 PM EDT

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Her air consumption is already awesome, I am going to have to get bigger cylinders for me when she finally gets her buoyancy, weighting and trim nailed.

If I could only get her in a pool and drill her ass off for a few weeks.

Posted: 10/5/2016 8:46:06 PM EDT

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I am trying to get her to hold her inflator in both hands just to keep them busy. However, that contradicts me getting her to learn to dump air from her bottom dump too.

I think knock down the biggest problem first.

Hold the inflator and learn to go vertical to dump. Then add the back inflator.

Eventually, I will replace her and my suicide hooks with snap bolts too. I need to order some stainless snap bolts and went scrounging when I set our regulators up. I didn't want to cannibalize an existing set.

We won't be strict DIR but we will be ahead of 99% of most recreational divers when I am through. Dangling and loose crap is a pet peeve of mine.

Her trim weight finally shipped.

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I like trigger clips. Easy to use with gloves and very low chance of entaglement.

Posted: 1/30/2017 1:21:45 PM EDT

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I like trigger clips. Easy to use with gloves and very low chance of entaglement.

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I won't get all DIR preachy on you, but those types of clips have a well-earned name of "suicide clips." I used to use a version of the NightIze clips on my BCD at first until I encountered minor difficulties untangling stuff out of them. When I read more about technical diving, safety practice, etc., I found that they were a totally unnecessary hazard. I don't care if it's small or large, the point is to reduce the risk of entanglement, task loading, etc.

This problem has been effectively solved by the boltsnap. There is no need to think about it.

divegearexpress.com has top quality boltsnaps for very reasonable prices. You do not have to pay LDS inflated prices for them.

Posted: 1/30/2017 8:59:53 PM EDT

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Bolt snaps suck. Hate them. Nearly as bad as what I've always called a suicide clip.

You sure you're referring to trigger clips as suicide clips?

Trigger clips

Suicide clip

Posted: 1/31/2017 12:46:32 PM EDT

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I've been using 'suicide clips' and caribiners for damn near 40 years with no issues with entanglement diving in wrecks and kelp beds or lost gear.

I have had lights drop from trigger clips after being bumped and yes, trigger snaps suck monkey balls.

Posted: 1/31/2017 7:22:22 PM EDT

[#11]

I've only had bolt snaps come off of gear that I tied to them myself (with #24 cave line) in the beginning of my tech diving journey, because I wasn't using the correct type of knot. Thankfully the $100 backup light the bolt snap was attached to was firmly secured in a piece of bicycle inner-tube on my harness so it wasn't actually lost in the cave.

After I learned what I didn't know (

), I've scraped my shit across all manner of rocks, dry ground, truck beds, tank benches, etc. and never lost a single piece of gear.

Bolt snaps FTW

Dive Gear Express FTW

DIR... not so FTW (switching to sidemount this weekend)

Posted: 1/31/2017 8:24:56 PM EDT

[#12]

I used to fish Summersville Lake many years ago. Extremely deep, extremely clear. I've caught crappy at 65/70 feet of water while bouncing silver buddies off the bottom. I've caught small mouth bass in 95 feet of water with those little do-nothing worms, just sort of dragging them along with the trolling motor.

My younger brother did his certification dive at Summersville Lake. They anchored the boat and dove at that long point about midways up the lake on the left side. He said it was really weird when they got down to the thermocline (??) and he could stand on the rocks dropping down to the channel below and have his feet/ankles in cold water and his shoulders in warm water.

Biggest WV small mouth I ever caught was just around the bend from that long point. Fishing at night and caught a 3 lb. 6 oz. small mouth that was 19&3/4" long. Watching that thing dance across the water in the moonlight was an awesome sight.

Posted: 1/31/2017 9:09:54 PM EDT

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I've only had bolt snaps come off of gear that I tied to them myself (with #24 cave line) in the beginning of my tech diving journey, because I wasn't using the correct type of knot. Thankfully the $100 backup light the bolt snap was attached to was firmly secured in a piece of bicycle inner-tube on my harness so it wasn't actually lost in the cave.

After I learned what I didn't know (

), I've scraped my shit across all manner of rocks, dry ground, truck beds, tank benches, etc. and never lost a single piece of gear.

Bolt snaps FTW

Dive Gear Express FTW

DIR... not so FTW (switching to sidemount this weekend)

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I should have clarified my earlier hate of bolt snaps
I don't like bolt snaps that are double ended snaps. I've lost gear to them. Single ended are OK, but I still like the trigger. It's just a better feel for where to engage and disengage the snap.

Single ended bolt snap

Double ended bolt snap

Posted: 2/1/2017 10:01:40 PM EDT

[#14]

Double-enders DO suck. I hate those fuckers.

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