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Posted: 7/2/2014 8:49:57 PM EDT
No matter what i build. Its a dual coil setup. Everything gives me a weak cloud and makes me cough like a mother fucker.

I've got some 24 gauge kanthal coming in. Been using 28. Any suggestions?

I tried a parallel 4 wrap build around a 7/64th drill bit that's the closest to vapable I've had yet but I'd sooner go gay than ever Do a parallel wrap again.

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Could it be a wicking issue? Too much juice around the coils will cause what you're describing.
Link Posted: 7/2/2014 9:58:55 PM EDT
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What mix of juice are you using?
Link Posted: 7/2/2014 10:08:55 PM EDT
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How Do i fix this? Just ensure not too much wick is touching the outside of the coil?

Any juice i try from 50/50 to 70vg/30pg 6mg to 18.

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Link Posted: 7/2/2014 11:49:30 PM EDT
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Is the vape coming off too hot?

Burnt flavor or how do you describe it?

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Seems too hot maybe but it's a .5ohm setup and its mitt really putting out much vapor.  The same setup on my stillare and other 22mm attys absolutely hemorrhage vapor

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Link Posted: 7/3/2014 1:57:16 AM EDT
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Pics of your build?

Both of my 28mm RDA's work like champs. Not any better than a 22mm but they do work.
Link Posted: 7/3/2014 10:54:20 AM EDT
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I've never gotten a build to suit me in my 28mm stillaire either. I've tried 5 different setups with different gauges of wire. I think I've about given up on the platform all together. I'll be selling my hades clone, batteries, 28mm kayfun and stillaire soon.
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The one coil is kind of fucked. Not how i originally had it wicked but honestly, I have no clue how to wick properly. I tried shifting them around a bit. It hits ok now. Decent vapor production. I get a lot of juice in my mouth though when i hit it. Almost like a film of e juice everywhere, Not like when you get when an atty spits juice.

It's usable now but I'm not impressed. Tempted to break it down and have a go with the 24 gauge wire...

Edit there is no middle ground though. It hits too cool at first but halfway through the second hit it gets too hot. I have a feeling I'm getting the juice in my mouth because of the cool hit. The coil takes too long to heat up but when it gets hot it's too hot.

Edit: pics of new build incoming

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Link Posted: 7/3/2014 2:17:17 PM EDT
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Got my 24 gauge wire in. 5 wraps around a 7/64 drill bit. .22ohms. Still getting that oily film in my mouth but beyond that it's hitting great.





Edit though the juice I'm using is more VG than i usually order. I wonder if that is the reason for the film.

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Link Posted: 7/3/2014 2:26:56 PM EDT
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Alright. I'll go with this exact setup when I get home tonight. Hope it makes me like mine.
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It's the fucking tip. Swapped it out with the tip from my stillare and no juice in my mouth.

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Is the new tip a wider bore or narrower bore than the one you were using?
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It's the fucking tip. Swapped it out with the tip from my stillare and no juice in my mouth.

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Is the new tip a wider bore or narrower bore than the one you were using?


The one that works better is wider but quite a bit shorter. It also has a narrower opening right at the base. The one that was giving me too much juice is just a straight shot.

I wonder if the extra length was giving the vapor more time to condense?

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Link Posted: 7/3/2014 5:34:48 PM EDT
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The one that came with my 28mm stillaire was monster big. Made me feel like some kind of homo. I swapped it for the tip off of a tobh.
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I just made a 24 gauge coil for my 22mm RDA.  It just seems anything you do with the 28mm you can do better in a 22mm.

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IMO where 28 mm RDA's shine is for quad setups. You've got room to spread the coil heat out a bit and really take advantage of the increased contact surface. My 28 mm Mega produces a real nice WARM vape, as opposed to the very HOT vape in any 22 mm with quads I've tried. Running duals, 22 is better sized for typical builds.
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I've never gotten a build to suit me in my 28mm stillaire either. I've tried 5 different setups with different gauges of wire. I think I've about given up on the platform all together. I'll be selling my hades clone, batteries, 28mm kayfun and stillaire soon.
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Dibs!

Serious.
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Dibs!

Serious.
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I've never gotten a build to suit me in my 28mm stillaire either. I've tried 5 different setups with different gauges of wire. I think I've about given up on the platform all together. I'll be selling my hades clone, batteries, 28mm kayfun and stillaire soon.

Dibs!

Serious.


Make me a cash or trade offer. I'm serious too.
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Make me a cash or trade offer. I'm serious too.
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I've never gotten a build to suit me in my 28mm stillaire either. I've tried 5 different setups with different gauges of wire. I think I've about given up on the platform all together. I'll be selling my hades clone, batteries, 28mm kayfun and stillaire soon.

Dibs!

Serious.


Make me a cash or trade offer. I'm serious too.

Seconds!!!

Wife unit keeps stealing mine..
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Seconds!!!

Wife unit keeps stealing mine..
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I've never gotten a build to suit me in my 28mm stillaire either. I've tried 5 different setups with different gauges of wire. I think I've about given up on the platform all together. I'll be selling my hades clone, batteries, 28mm kayfun and stillaire soon.

Dibs!

Serious.


Make me a cash or trade offer. I'm serious too.

Seconds!!!

Wife unit keeps stealing mine..


Anyone is welcome to PM me a cash or trade offer. I have the hades clone, one Sony 50 amp, the stillaire and the kayfun. All in barely used condition.  

Mouse, I know you have all kinda of stuff laying around.
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Anyone is welcome to PM me a cash or trade offer. I have the hades clone, one Sony 50 amp, the stillaire and the kayfun. All in barely used condition.  

Mouse, I know you have all kinda of stuff laying around.
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Here ya go......




Link Posted: 7/16/2014 8:02:47 AM EDT
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Could somebody with a 28mm Stillare post a pic of the bottom post?

Mucho thanks in advance.
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Could somebody with a 28mm Stillare post a pic of the bottom post?

Mucho thanks in advance.
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Link Posted: 7/16/2014 10:03:18 AM EDT
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Perfect. Thanks much. I think one of those is gonna go on the 26650 bottom feeder I just finished.
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I've never gotten a build to suit me in my 28mm stillaire either. I've tried 5 different setups with different gauges of wire. I think I've about given up on the platform all together. I'll be selling my hades clone, batteries, 28mm kayfun and stillaire soon.
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I'm there too. My brass monkee hits like a beast and has liked any setup I put in it. The hades/stillaire is a pita and heavy as hell!
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