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Posted: 7/30/2014 11:04:47 PM EDT
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So I just recoiled my 3.1 at 1.3 ohms on my MVP and it produces less vapor than my 1.8 builds but the flavor is markedly better, normal?
Also I didn't think the MVP fired below 1.5 
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Posted: 7/31/2014 12:23:10 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lcoates33:
Have you checked the meter it self? I literally today had a lead on my fluke go to shit. It was adding 19ohms onto my reading. I wonder if yours is doing the same. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lcoates33:
Originally Posted By inthe605:
Bought a kayfun 3.1 in the big city today to sit on top of the Pro-vari I bought on Monday. I'm kinda struggling with these coils. So far I've rolled 3 or them and they ohm'd out 1.6-2.0 using a Fluke multimeter. But as soon as I hit the fire button E1 has popped up every time. Even got an E8 for a fraction of a second on the last one. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Have you checked the meter it self? I literally today had a lead on my fluke go to shit. It was adding 19ohms onto my reading. I wonder if yours is doing the same. Wouldn't know how to check the fluke if I wanted to. What I do have now it is red hot coil starting at the center. I think I'm winning right now. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/31/2014 6:12:31 AM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By inthe605:
Wouldn't know how to check the fluke if I wanted to. What I do have now it is red hot coil starting at the center. I think I'm winning right now. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By inthe605:
Originally Posted By lcoates33:
Originally Posted By inthe605:
Bought a kayfun 3.1 in the big city today to sit on top of the Pro-vari I bought on Monday. I'm kinda struggling with these coils. So far I've rolled 3 or them and they ohm'd out 1.6-2.0 using a Fluke multimeter. But as soon as I hit the fire button E1 has popped up every time. Even got an E8 for a fraction of a second on the last one. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Have you checked the meter it self? I literally today had a lead on my fluke go to shit. It was adding 19ohms onto my reading. I wonder if yours is doing the same. Wouldn't know how to check the fluke if I wanted to. What I do have now it is red hot coil starting at the center. I think I'm winning right now. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile 
Sounds like you got the "short" part ironed out. For the meter, just touch the leads together to get a baseline reading... then read something and subtract the baseline reading to get the actual. If the reading is high enough to irratate you, do what i did and order new leads. 
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Posted: 8/14/2014 12:37:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: privateer1967]
[#4]
Picked up an Ehpro Kfl today, first coil was 30 gauge, 8 wraps, came out to 2 ohms with organic cotton, using an mvp at 10.5 watts and loving every bit of it!!!
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Posted: 8/28/2014 8:05:44 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By inthe605:
Wouldn't know how to check the fluke if I wanted to. What I do have now it is red hot coil starting at the center. I think I'm winning right now. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By inthe605:
Originally Posted By lcoates33:
Originally Posted By inthe605:
Bought a kayfun 3.1 in the big city today to sit on top of the Pro-vari I bought on Monday. I'm kinda struggling with these coils. So far I've rolled 3 or them and they ohm'd out 1.6-2.0 using a Fluke multimeter. But as soon as I hit the fire button E1 has popped up every time. Even got an E8 for a fraction of a second on the last one. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Have you checked the meter it self? I literally today had a lead on my fluke go to shit. It was adding 19ohms onto my reading. I wonder if yours is doing the same. Wouldn't know how to check the fluke if I wanted to. What I do have now it is red hot coil starting at the center. I think I'm winning right now. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile E1 is the error code for a short on a Provari. Double check your posts and coil to make sure you'r not shorting out somewhere. When wrapping coils for a device to be used on a Provari, you really don't need to use an external meter. Once you've got your coil wrapped and mounted, lower the Provari's voltage to 3.5 or so (to make sure you don't exceed the current limits if your coil is a bit low). Then use the Provari's built in meter to measure your coil resistance. It's very accurate. Then adjust your voltage back to get your desired wattage. You can usually get as high as 14 watts without a problem on a Provari. |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 7:29:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: andy45247]
[#6]
i am having a problem with a short with a HCigar Kayfun 3.1 Clone that i just got today. First rebuild able so i was very excited to give it a try. Built it up once coil ran well, about 1.8 ohms, however i didn't clean it out good enough and could taste a faint metallic taste.
So i took it all apart and gave it a nice soupy hot water bathe. Now the problem is every time i screw on the inner housing tube that goes around the coil it shorts. It works fine without it. Coil heats up no problem. I built 2 coils and both short when i screw on the housing. The wires are good, no contact with the housing. I think the long post that has the air flow tube is making contact with the housing and shorting it out, but am not 100%. Any one have any insight? ETA: Ok got some pics up here . I tried to get some good shots with the tube on but those 2 where the best i could do. If you need more pics at different angles let me know. thanks. |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 7:40:50 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By andy45247:
i am having a problem with a short with a HCigar Kayfun 3.1 Clone that i just got today. First rebuild able so i was very excited to give it a try. Built it up once coil ran well, about 1.8 ohms, however i didn't clean it out good enough and could taste a faint metallic taste. So i took it all apart and gave it a nice soupy hot water bathe. Now the problem is every time i screw on the inner housing tube that goes around the coil it shorts. It works fine without it. Coil heats up no problem. I built 2 coils and both short when i screw on the housing. The wires are good, no contact with the housing. I think the long post that has the air flow tube is making contact with the housing and shorting it out, but am not 100%. Any one have any insight? Post a pic and we can solve this problem right away. |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:21:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DVCAPI]
[#8]
I've read the build guide a bunch of times. Now I'm waiting on my stuff to get here. I've been looking at different local vape shops web pages & found a local shop that has a 'Build' night every Wednesday night, 7-10pm. Think I'll go check it out while I'm waiting. I can try some e-juice & get some juice to start with, too.
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Posted: 9/3/2014 11:46:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Enlightenme556]
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By andy45247:
i am having a problem with a short with a HCigar Kayfun 3.1 Clone that i just got today. First rebuild able so i was very excited to give it a try. Built it up once coil ran well, about 1.8 ohms, however i didn't clean it out good enough and could taste a faint metallic taste. So i took it all apart and gave it a nice soupy hot water bathe. Now the problem is every time i screw on the inner housing tube that goes around the coil it shorts. It works fine without it. Coil heats up no problem. I built 2 coils and both short when i screw on the housing. The wires are good, no contact with the housing. I think the long post that has the air flow tube is making contact with the housing and shorting it out, but am not 100%. Any one have any insight? ETA: Ok got some pics up here . I tried to get some good shots with the tube on but those 2 where the best i could do. If you need more pics at different angles let me know. thanks. Looks like It's hanging over the edge a little and making contact with the chimney. Loosen the screw on the underside a bit, slide the post towards the center, just a bit, and screw it tight again. Easy peasy. 
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Posted: 9/4/2014 10:02:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: andy45247]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Enlightenme556:
Looks like It's hanging over the edge a little and making contact with the chimney. Loosen the screw on the underside a bit, slide the post towards the center, just a bit, and screw it tight again. Easy peasy. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Enlightenme556:
Originally Posted By andy45247:
i am having a problem with a short with a HCigar Kayfun 3.1 Clone that i just got today. First rebuild able so i was very excited to give it a try. Built it up once coil ran well, about 1.8 ohms, however i didn't clean it out good enough and could taste a faint metallic taste. So i took it all apart and gave it a nice soupy hot water bathe. Now the problem is every time i screw on the inner housing tube that goes around the coil it shorts. It works fine without it. Coil heats up no problem. I built 2 coils and both short when i screw on the housing. The wires are good, no contact with the housing. I think the long post that has the air flow tube is making contact with the housing and shorting it out, but am not 100%. Any one have any insight? ETA: Ok got some pics up here . I tried to get some good shots with the tube on but those 2 where the best i could do. If you need more pics at different angles let me know. thanks. Looks like It's hanging over the edge a little and making contact with the chimney. Loosen the screw on the underside a bit, slide the post towards the center, just a bit, and screw it tight again. Easy peasy. This got it working, thank you. |
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Posted: 9/8/2014 11:39:03 PM EDT
[#11]
I got my Provari Mini today & it had a new coil prebuilt on it @1.5 ohms..... Got a wick in it & man this thing hits hard........
One thing not listed & I didn't know, is Cotton Balls are Rolled Up Lengths of Cotton...... So Look for the Starting Line & Unroll the Cotton Ball...... OP, you might want to add that to your instructions, for someone like me that didn't Know that....   
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Posted: 9/9/2014 3:19:47 PM EDT
[#12]
is this build suitable for using with a mech mod?
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Posted: 9/9/2014 4:20:00 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Panther1911:
is this build suitable for using with a mech mod? IMO not really. Personally I like around 1 ohm for a mech build on my Kayfuns. Everything is the same except I do 9.5 wraps with 26g wire. I get .96 ohms pretty consistently.YMMV though. Some people like higher ohms. |
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Posted: 9/9/2014 4:21:15 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DVCAPI:
I got my Provari Mini today & it had a new coil prebuilt on it @1.5 ohms..... Got a wick in it & man this thing hits hard........ One thing not listed & I didn't know, is Cotton Balls are Rolled Up Lengths of Cotton...... So Look for the Starting Line & Unroll the Cotton Ball...... OP, you might want to add that to your instructions, for someone like me that didn't Know that.... Didn't think to include that. Will do. |
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Posted: 9/9/2014 4:55:58 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Panther1911:
is this build suitable for using with a mech mod? 4.2V @ 1.6 Ohms is 11 Watts.. @ 1.5 Ohms is 11.8 Watts..... Here's a Chart from SvoeMesto...... Ohms on top......Volts on the left side....... Looks like they think 8-12 Watts is the sweet spot............. 
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Posted: 9/9/2014 5:05:41 PM EDT
[#16]
I think those charts were from BC (before cotton).
Don't forget that on a mech you are not gonna have 4.2 volts for long. A higher ohm coil isn't gonna perform as well when the battery loses a little bit of voltage.
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Posted: 9/10/2014 1:26:32 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Keith1980:
IMO not really. Personally I like around 1 ohm for a mech build on my Kayfuns. Everything is the same except I do 9.5 wraps with 26g wire. I get .96 ohms pretty consistently.YMMV though. Some people like higher ohms. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Keith1980:
Originally Posted By Panther1911:
is this build suitable for using with a mech mod? IMO not really. Personally I like around 1 ohm for a mech build on my Kayfuns. Everything is the same except I do 9.5 wraps with 26g wire. I get .96 ohms pretty consistently.YMMV though. Some people like higher ohms. So you're starting about 17.5-18W on a full 4.2V battery...... How low of a Voltage to you run it to? 3.6-3.5? How do you know you need to change your battery?
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Posted: 9/10/2014 5:17:51 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DVCAPI:
So you're starting about 17.5-18W on a full 4.2V battery...... How low of a Voltage to you run it to? 3.6-3.5? How do you know you need to change your battery? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DVCAPI:
Originally Posted By Keith1980:
Originally Posted By Panther1911:
is this build suitable for using with a mech mod? IMO not really. Personally I like around 1 ohm for a mech build on my Kayfuns. Everything is the same except I do 9.5 wraps with 26g wire. I get .96 ohms pretty consistently.YMMV though. Some people like higher ohms. So you're starting about 17.5-18W on a full 4.2V battery...... How low of a Voltage to you run it to? 3.6-3.5? How do you know you need to change your battery? Correct. And I'm not the only one. Some people run them at even lower ohms. As long as it's wicked properly it can keep up. I never get lower than 3.6v on the battery. You can tell when it's time to change it.
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Posted: 9/10/2014 9:04:28 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Panther1911:
is this build suitable for using with a mech mod? so i made my first kayfun coil yesterday, it wasnt as pretty as the OP it came in at 1.7 ohms
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Posted: 10/25/2014 6:46:56 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Panther1911:
so i made my first kayfun coil yesterday, it wasnt as pretty as the OP it came in at 1.7 ohms
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Panther1911:
Originally Posted By Panther1911:
is this build suitable for using with a mech mod? so i made my first kayfun coil yesterday, it wasnt as pretty as the OP it came in at 1.7 ohms
What wattage are you all running on your 1.6 to 1.8 builds? I will be running it on a DNA 30 mod clone for reference. |
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Posted: 10/25/2014 7:37:01 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OBrien33: What wattage are you all running on your 1.6 to 1.8 builds? I will be running it on a DNA 30 mod clone for reference. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OBrien33: Originally Posted By Panther1911: Originally Posted By Panther1911: is this build suitable for using with a mech mod? so i made my first kayfun coil yesterday, it wasnt as pretty as the OP it came in at 1.7 ohmsWhat wattage are you all running on your 1.6 to 1.8 builds? I will be running it on a DNA 30 mod clone for reference. Then slowly move up & see how it reacts......... |
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Posted: 10/25/2014 7:52:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Panther1911]
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OBrien33:
What wattage are you all running on your 1.6 to 1.8 builds? I will be running it on a DNA 30 mod clone for reference. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OBrien33:
Originally Posted By Panther1911:
Originally Posted By Panther1911:
is this build suitable for using with a mech mod? so i made my first kayfun coil yesterday, it wasnt as pretty as the OP it came in at 1.7 ohms
What wattage are you all running on your 1.6 to 1.8 builds? I will be running it on a DNA 30 mod clone for reference. 11-12w Mosty closer to 11.5-12 |
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Posted: 10/25/2014 7:57:27 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Panther1911: 11-12w Mosty closer to 11.5-12 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Panther1911: Originally Posted By OBrien33: Originally Posted By Panther1911: Originally Posted By Panther1911: is this build suitable for using with a mech mod? so i made my first kayfun coil yesterday, it wasnt as pretty as the OP it came in at 1.7 ohmsWhat wattage are you all running on your 1.6 to 1.8 builds? I will be running it on a DNA 30 mod clone for reference. 11-12w Mosty closer to 11.5-12 Here's a Chart from SvoeMesto...... Ohms on top......Volts on the left side....... Looks like they think 8-12 Watts is the sweet spot............. |
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Posted: 10/25/2014 8:26:05 PM EDT
[#24]
Today I was running my 1.1ohm kayfun on the dna30 at 15w
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Posted: 10/25/2014 8:41:17 PM EDT
[#25]
I understood the chart but was just wondering other people's preferences. Specs don't always match up to what is good after trying it out
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Posted: 10/25/2014 8:58:26 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OBrien33: I understood the chart but was just wondering other people's preferences. Specs don't always match up to what is good after trying it out But it's a good starting point, either way......... |
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Posted: 10/25/2014 8:58:48 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OBrien33:
I understood the chart but was just wondering other people's preferences. Specs don't always match up to what is good after trying it out Start at low wattage and work your way up. You'll feel when you hit a satisfying wattage. |
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Posted: 10/25/2014 9:00:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NY_Shooter: Start at low wattage and work your way up. You'll feel when you hit a satisfying wattage. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NY_Shooter: Originally Posted By OBrien33: I understood the chart but was just wondering other people's preferences. Specs don't always match up to what is good after trying it out Start at low wattage and work your way up. You'll feel when you hit a satisfying wattage. |
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Posted: 10/25/2014 9:17:31 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DVCAPI:
IMHO, it depends on how big the Juice channels are on Your Version of a Kayfun, too........
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DVCAPI:
Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:
Originally Posted By OBrien33:
I understood the chart but was just wondering other people's preferences. Specs don't always match up to what is good after trying it out Start at low wattage and work your way up. You'll feel when you hit a satisfying wattage.
The 'start low and work your way up' method still works. |
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Posted: 10/25/2014 9:42:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NY_Shooter: The 'start low and work your way up' method still works. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NY_Shooter: Originally Posted By DVCAPI: Originally Posted By NY_Shooter: Originally Posted By OBrien33: I understood the chart but was just wondering other people's preferences. Specs don't always match up to what is good after trying it out Start at low wattage and work your way up. You'll feel when you hit a satisfying wattage. The 'start low and work your way up' method still works. But someone with huge Juice Channels saying they can Vape @ X watts, doesn't help if you have tiny ones......... |
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Posted: 10/25/2014 9:45:49 PM EDT
[#31]
That's what she said...
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Posted: 10/25/2014 10:07:55 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lcoates33: That's what she said... I guess the Mouse Theme is for other stuff, too..........  |
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Posted: 10/25/2014 10:15:37 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DVCAPI:
Sorry for You...... No Woman has ever said I have a Tiny One......... I guess the Mouse Theme is for other stuff, too..........
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DVCAPI:
Originally Posted By lcoates33:
That's what she said... I guess the Mouse Theme is for other stuff, too..........
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Posted: 10/26/2014 8:52:34 AM EDT
[#34]
Mouse drunk texted me a dick pic by accident once. Now I see how he was able to land a pretty wife.
Warning. Not for the faint of heart, NSFW, and might ruin your childhood memories: Click To View Spoiler
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Posted: 2/19/2017 10:15:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DVCAPI]
[#35]
Good thing this thread is still up.... Haven't used my KF 3.1 clone for a couple of years... Rolled the Coil the wrong direction on my first try..
Had to review how to build on it..... Rolling the Coil the other direction, solved that problem...... My ProVari Mini doesn't like the 1.20 build I made.... Guess I need a 1.5 or higher build.... Running on a Mech. Will go back and build a higher ohm coil for the PV, after I Vape this half Tank.... Tried it again and got the PV Working.......
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Posted: 5/9/2019 4:12:44 PM EDT
[#36]
I wonder if anyone is doing new coil builds and would like to share some "Newer" tips and tricks for coil building.
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