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Posted: 10/17/2015 5:06:06 PM EDT
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Write it down several times and recite them like your doing. That way you have several ways of importing the memory and keeping it.
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Posted: 10/18/2015 1:43:23 AM EDT
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Create a digital file and play it back while you are driving. Just like learning a song. Other than that it is just repetition.
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Posted: 10/18/2015 7:09:39 AM EDT
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Write it down several times and recite them like your doing. That way you have several ways of importing the memory and keeping it. I w n w, p, p, s, s, c, c, m o e t... |
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Posted: 10/19/2015 9:17:42 AM EDT
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Some really great advice, thanks all! I'm going to try recording it tonight.
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Posted: 10/19/2015 5:25:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some really great advice, thanks all! I'm going to try recording it tonight. Bro, may not be a clear violation of your oath, but its damn close. BTW, these other Brothers are from other states, their obligations sometimes vary significantly from ours. Be mindful of that. ETA, I learned all my stuff by sitting in every lodge meeting for the past 5 years, attending 2 extra meetings a month and school of instruction. You also have your ritual book as a guide. |
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Posted: 10/20/2015 10:31:10 AM EDT
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I learn a line and then add the next one. When I get the third I add it. If I make a mistake, I go back to the begging and start reciting it all over. Make a mistake, start over.
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Posted: 10/20/2015 12:33:00 PM EDT
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I learn a line and then add the next one. When I get the third I add it. If I make a mistake, I go back to the begging and start reciting it all over. Make a mistake, start over. That method works for me as well. The lectures I learn best by hearing them start to finish over and over again. The digital version works great for me in that aspect (for the most part they are not ciphered). That portion of the obligation is interpreted differently by different people. In Utah, it goes on to say w t s may bc l o i t a p o ps u t w c o H, and t-by t ss o Fmy b u o t m u. My digital files are secured. They can only be accessed by me. |
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Posted: 10/20/2015 5:10:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: . In Utah, it goes on to say w t s may bc l o i t a p o ps u t w c o H, and t-by t ss o Fmy b u o t m u. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I learn a line and then add the next one. When I get the third I add it. If I make a mistake, I go back to the begging and start reciting it all over. Make a mistake, start over. . In Utah, it goes on to say w t s may bc l o i t a p o ps u t w c o H, and t-by t ss o Fmy b u o t m u. |
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Posted: 10/20/2015 5:46:00 PM EDT
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I learn a line and then add the next one. When I get the third I add it. If I make a mistake, I go back to the begging and start reciting it all over. Make a mistake, start over. . In Utah, it goes on to say w t s may bc l o i t a p o ps u t w c o H, and t-by t ss o Fmy b u o t m u. Ah, I am always fascinated at how our ritual can differ yet we can still all meet on the level with each other. 
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Posted: 10/21/2015 10:51:20 AM EDT
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Bro, may not be a clear violation of your oath, but its damn close. BTW, these other Brothers are from other states, their obligations sometimes vary significantly from ours. Be mindful of that. ETA, I learned all my stuff by sitting in every lodge meeting for the past 5 years, attending 2 extra meetings a month and school of instruction. You also have your ritual book as a guide. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Some really great advice, thanks all! I'm going to try recording it tonight. BTW, these other Brothers are from other states, their obligations sometimes vary significantly from ours. Be mindful of that. ETA, I learned all my stuff by sitting in every lodge meeting for the past 5 years, attending 2 extra meetings a month and school of instruction. You also have your ritual book as a guide. I understand what you are saying, but I'm working on the opening charge... which is posted on our website  But thank you for looking out for a brother.
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Posted: 10/21/2015 11:55:20 AM EDT
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I've tried different techniques, but say I have yet to find a replacement for repetition, repetition, repetition.
Seriously, if written down, keep reading it to yourself over and over. I've found vocalizing or subvocalizing adds to it. If not, written down, work with your instructor to get it in your head, even haltingly, and then repeat it to yourself over and over. My practice times are in the car commuting to and from work. It's worked for me. I was raised in June of 2013 and am 3/4s of the way to a gold card. S&F, SMS-ret |
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Posted: 10/21/2015 2:41:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I understand what you are saying, but I'm working on the opening charge... which is posted on our website But thank you for looking out for a brother.Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Some really great advice, thanks all! I'm going to try recording it tonight. BTW, these other Brothers are from other states, their obligations sometimes vary significantly from ours. Be mindful of that. ETA, I learned all my stuff by sitting in every lodge meeting for the past 5 years, attending 2 extra meetings a month and school of instruction. You also have your ritual book as a guide. I understand what you are saying, but I'm working on the opening charge... which is posted on our website But thank you for looking out for a brother. |
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Posted: 10/23/2015 10:18:05 AM EDT
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do it live. Seriously, get a few brothers together (maybe after closing one night) and mock your way through it. I'd be willing to bet you know more to it than you think you do.
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Posted: 10/23/2015 4:55:31 PM EDT
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do it live. Seriously, get a few brothers together (maybe after closing one night) and mock your way through it. I'd be willing to bet you know more to it than you think you do. I have no shortage of awesome brethren willing to help out. My work schedule is just rough at the moment. I've been saying it over and over on the commute (1 hr each way), but time is running short! 
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Posted: 12/12/2015 3:24:07 PM EDT
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Are the charges in the Craftsman? IF they are then you only need to remember what goes in the blanks.
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Posted: 12/13/2015 11:21:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are the charges in the Craftsman? IF they are then you only need to remember what goes in the blanks. |
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Posted: 12/15/2015 9:14:39 PM EDT
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Bro, may not be a clear violation of your oath, but its damn close. BTW, these other Brothers are from other states, their obligations sometimes vary significantly from ours. Be mindful of that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Some really great advice, thanks all! I'm going to try recording it tonight. BTW, these other Brothers are from other states, their obligations sometimes vary significantly from ours. Be mindful of that. if you choose to go the recording method, may i strongly recommend you not tell ANYONE. you are right on the verge of violating your o&o....and, remember the penalty for a j.w. (i say as i head for the south as of saint John's day next) |
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Posted: 12/23/2015 6:56:06 PM EDT
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I w n w, p, p, s, s, c, c, m o e t... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Write it down several times and recite them like your doing. That way you have several ways of importing the memory and keeping it. I w n w, p, p, s, s, c, c, m o e t... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Find a Brother in the lodge to work with you. Phones are your friend if you cannot get together. |
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Posted: 12/24/2015 9:01:17 AM EDT
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Same here. Going back to the beginning each time can be tedious though. I create re-set points sort of. If I a made a mistake on the obligation, I would re-do that portion, not the from the very beginning.
Remember, you have a LIW and DIW...let them do their jobs. Best of luck Fr. Wor. Mike Quote HistoryQuoted:
That method works for me as well. The lectures I learn best by hearing them start to finish over and over again. The digital version works great for me in that aspect (for the most part they are not ciphered). That portion of the obligation is interpreted differently by different people. In Utah, it goes on to say w t s may bc l o i t a p o ps u t w c o H, and t-by t ss o Fmy b u o t m u. My digital files are secured. They can only be accessed by me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I learn a line and then add the next one. When I get the third I add it. If I make a mistake, I go back to the begging and start reciting it all over. Make a mistake, start over. That method works for me as well. The lectures I learn best by hearing them start to finish over and over again. The digital version works great for me in that aspect (for the most part they are not ciphered). That portion of the obligation is interpreted differently by different people. In Utah, it goes on to say w t s may bc l o i t a p o ps u t w c o H, and t-by t ss o Fmy b u o t m u. My digital files are secured. They can only be accessed by me. |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 12:31:54 AM EDT
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We have practice at lodge every Tuesday except the night of our stated meeting. We work on upcoming degrees and if nothing is on the calendar we go through open, close, and any sticking points. I'm going to work on pulling in more Masonic education at practice and go into the why behind the ritual. Sometimes understanding why you are doing something a particular way helps it stay with you.
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Posted: 1/1/2016 4:21:39 PM EDT
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Our Grand Lodge just had a trial on a Mason who recorded ritual work as a study aid. He is no longer a Mason in South Carolina.
I would echo meeting with a few brothers to help you through. My Lodge meets every week to practice. After a few months it is a BS session, but it's fun. |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 9:35:11 PM EDT
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I just picked up Jay Dub as well and I used sing song. I find speaking in infelctions allowed me to hit all the words correctly by making it a "song" rather than straight memorization
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Posted: 1/8/2016 2:08:02 PM EDT
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Our Grand Lodge just had a trial on a Mason who recorded ritual work as a study aid. He is no longer a Mason in South Carolina. I would echo meeting with a few brothers to help you through. My Lodge meets every week to practice. After a few months it is a BS session, but it's fun. Again... I would reiterate.. I was working on the opening charge. Which is posted on the interwebz.. not much secret ritual there. As an update, all is well, I passed off on my opening charge, and business of the lodge. Next step.. learn the 2nd Degree! :) |
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Posted: 1/8/2016 4:56:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Again... I would reiterate.. I was working on the opening charge. Which is posted on the interwebz.. not much secret ritual there. As an update, all is well, I passed off on my opening charge, and business of the lodge. Next step.. learn the 2nd Degree! :) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Our Grand Lodge just had a trial on a Mason who recorded ritual work as a study aid. He is no longer a Mason in South Carolina. I would echo meeting with a few brothers to help you through. My Lodge meets every week to practice. After a few months it is a BS session, but it's fun. Again... I would reiterate.. I was working on the opening charge. Which is posted on the interwebz.. not much secret ritual there. As an update, all is well, I passed off on my opening charge, and business of the lodge. Next step.. learn the 2nd Degree! :) |
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Posted: 1/9/2016 11:41:40 AM EDT
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Our Grand Lodge just had a trial on a Mason who recorded ritual work as a study aid. He is no longer a Mason in South Carolina. I would echo meeting with a few brothers to help you through. My Lodge meets every week to practice. After a few months it is a BS session, but it's fun. Again... I would reiterate.. I was working on the opening charge. Which is posted on the interwebz.. not much secret ritual there. As an update, all is well, I passed off on my opening charge, and business of the lodge. Next step.. learn the 2nd Degree! :) I don't. I don't want to start on the 3rd, and so many people are learning the 1st, I figured it would be more beneficial to start on the 2nd. |
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Posted: 1/9/2016 7:46:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't. I don't want to start on the 3rd, and so many people are learning the 1st, I figured it would be more beneficial to start on the 2nd. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Our Grand Lodge just had a trial on a Mason who recorded ritual work as a study aid. He is no longer a Mason in South Carolina. I would echo meeting with a few brothers to help you through. My Lodge meets every week to practice. After a few months it is a BS session, but it's fun. Again... I would reiterate.. I was working on the opening charge. Which is posted on the interwebz.. not much secret ritual there. As an update, all is well, I passed off on my opening charge, and business of the lodge. Next step.. learn the 2nd Degree! :) I don't. I don't want to start on the 3rd, and so many people are learning the 1st, I figured it would be more beneficial to start on the 2nd. |
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Posted: 1/9/2016 9:56:26 PM EDT
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I think that the is a difference here. Do you mean the lectures that come at the end of the ceremony or the obligations? I don't know any lectures but I know the degree work for all three degrees in all of the positions and the past master degree. I was the master of ceremony for the last four years though. I did a lot of studying to learn it. It wasn't easy.
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Posted: 1/10/2016 1:16:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think that the is a difference here. Do you mean the lectures that come at the end of the ceremony or the obligations? I don't know any lectures but I know the degree work for all three degrees in all of the positions and the past master degree. I was the master of ceremony for the last four years though. I did a lot of studying to learn it. It wasn't easy. No, I mean every word from start to finish, including the charges. PA is different than SC. Even though we are all brothers our state has different ways of doing things. We even have different signs. They are similar, but the way we throw them is different. Our officer positions have similar names and different responsibilities. Its late, I'll have to get back to this later. |
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Posted: 1/14/2016 11:26:33 AM EDT
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in my jurisdiction and perhaps the whole state of PA, you have to know 2 degrees before the tail end of your SW year or they will not put you on the ballot for WM. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Our Grand Lodge just had a trial on a Mason who recorded ritual work as a study aid. He is no longer a Mason in South Carolina. I would echo meeting with a few brothers to help you through. My Lodge meets every week to practice. After a few months it is a BS session, but it's fun. Again... I would reiterate.. I was working on the opening charge. Which is posted on the interwebz.. not much secret ritual there. As an update, all is well, I passed off on my opening charge, and business of the lodge. Next step.. learn the 2nd Degree! :) I don't. I don't want to start on the 3rd, and so many people are learning the 1st, I figured it would be more beneficial to start on the 2nd. That's correct, same here. JW - Opening Charge, SW - Opening Charge, Closing Charge, Business of the Lodge. WM - all previoius + 2 degrees. I've got a little time left for the degree work... I know I know.. the earlier i start..
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