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Posted: 6/13/2014 2:02:09 PM EDT
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Is that the group that was declared clandestine by your GL?
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Posted: 6/13/2014 3:10:56 PM EDT
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Is that the group that was declared clandestine by your GL? Nice avatar... |
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Posted: 6/13/2014 8:41:30 PM EDT
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Is that the group that was declared clandestine by your GL? Nice avatar... And? I had read about a snake named order that had gotten in some trouble in CA. I was hoping to clarify which group he's asking about and perhaps learn something it is a different order than I was thinking of. |
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Posted: 6/13/2014 11:01:40 PM EDT
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And? I had read about a snake named order that had gotten in some trouble in CA. I was hoping to clarify which group he's asking about and perhaps learn something it is a different order than I was thinking of. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is that the group that was declared clandestine by your GL? Nice avatar... And? I had read about a snake named order that had gotten in some trouble in CA. I was hoping to clarify which group he's asking about and perhaps learn something it is a different order than I was thinking of. Grand and Glorious Knights of Creeping Serpents. Affirmative we got in trouble several years ago with the GL. |
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Posted: 6/14/2014 9:11:58 AM EDT
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Then you'll have to forgive me for being cautious, but I don't see GGOKCS as being a recognized appendant body on either CA GL's website nor my own. Has CA GL recognized you in such a way that we might talk about this or are you still clandestine?
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Posted: 6/14/2014 11:36:02 AM EDT
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And? I had read about a snake named order that had gotten in some trouble in CA. I was hoping to clarify which group he's asking about and perhaps learn something it is a different order than I was thinking of. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is that the group that was declared clandestine by your GL? Nice avatar... And? I had read about a snake named order that had gotten in some trouble in CA. I was hoping to clarify which group he's asking about and perhaps learn something it is a different order than I was thinking of. Whoops. I meant that for the OP. I see that his and mine are very similar. Great minds and all. 
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Posted: 6/15/2014 1:00:57 AM EDT
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Then you'll have to forgive me for being cautious, but I don't see GGOKCS as being a recognized appendant body on either CA GL's website nor my own. Has CA GL recognized you in such a way that we might talk about this or are you still clandestine? Kinda hard where to begin......it used to be recognized by the GL....somewhat. Until they found out about the initiation which was held together with some Arizona lodges. The initiations were let's just say were way more "physical" than the Chiefs initiation. Creeping Serpents initiation was held outside of CA state due to liability issues. Specifically in Yuma, AZ. Long story short, we were soon to receive letters from the GL to cease and desist any further involvement with the organization with threats of disbarment. So the Serpent went to sleep. This is as far I can go on this without further jeopardizing my duties as a Freemason with the GL of CA. |
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Posted: 6/15/2014 9:57:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:This is as far I can go on this without further jeopardizing my duties as a Freemason with the GL of CA. Given the nature of a subject whose discussion may border on being verboten. And in the interest of helping a Brother subdue his passion. Perhaps we should shut this one down. |
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Posted: 6/15/2014 12:08:56 PM EDT
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I've seen a letter demanding that you demit from the group in writing or face disbarment. If you say the group is simply sleeping then I will take that as proof you have not quit the group and I will leave this conversation
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Posted: 6/15/2014 1:25:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/15/2014 1:30:58 PM EDT
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this group?
http://freemasonsfordummies.blogspot.com/2007/06/grand-and-glorious-order-knights-of.html if this is true i am tempted to ban it's members from this forum. |
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Posted: 6/15/2014 1:38:15 PM EDT
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Kinda hard where to begin......it used to be recognized by the GL....somewhat. Until they found out about the initiation which was held together with some Arizona lodges. The initiations were let's just say were way more "physical" than the Chiefs initiation. Creeping Serpents initiation was held outside of CA state due to liability issues. Specifically in Yuma, AZ. Long story short, we were soon to receive letters from the GL to cease and desist any further involvement with the organization with threats of disbarment. So the Serpent went to sleep. This is as far I can go on this without further jeopardizing my duties as a Freemason with the GL of CA. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Then you'll have to forgive me for being cautious, but I don't see GGOKCS as being a recognized appendant body on either CA GL's website nor my own. Has CA GL recognized you in such a way that we might talk about this or are you still clandestine? Kinda hard where to begin......it used to be recognized by the GL....somewhat. Until they found out about the initiation which was held together with some Arizona lodges. The initiations were let's just say were way more "physical" than the Chiefs initiation. Creeping Serpents initiation was held outside of CA state due to liability issues. Specifically in Yuma, AZ. Long story short, we were soon to receive letters from the GL to cease and desist any further involvement with the organization with threats of disbarment. So the Serpent went to sleep. This is as far I can go on this without further jeopardizing my duties as a Freemason with the GL of CA. i have received a copy of the letter from the CA grand lodge. It appears the "snakes" are in fact a declared clandestine organization CA. |
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Posted: 6/16/2014 12:15:19 AM EDT
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Just for the record...I did my obligations and affirmations to sign in to the GL not to be a member or any associations with the Serpents a long time ago. How or what they are doing now, I do not have any connections or any members of that organization. To my understanding, that organization is still ongoing in other places. But in CA., it is a dead snake since it was disbanded many many years ago.......
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Posted: 6/16/2014 1:11:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just for the record...I did my obligations and affirmations to sign in to the GL not to be a member or any associations with the Serpents a long time ago. How or what they are doing now, I do not have any connections or any members of that organization. To my understanding, that organization is still ongoing in other places. But in CA., it is a dead snake since it was disbanded many many years ago....... |
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Posted: 6/16/2014 3:54:09 PM EDT
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clandestion organization
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