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Link Posted: 4/15/2013 5:50:28 AM EDT
[#1]
Thanks for  helping me embed   this video  
I have a  update video on this kit That im trying to post

Link Posted: 4/15/2013 6:15:43 AM EDT
[#2]
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8248/8652353074_3bc48014f3_m.jpg

I did a update video on my  Gear bag  
cant get my new youtube vid to embed   but here is a still shot  showing some of the changes  like  
changed out the  large military flashlight   with a smaller brighter , lighter   one  
recently got a headlamp   for when  I go caving   and it is perfect  for  hands free  use  , It is not a  high end   one  but  when I run accross a  better one I will upgrade  it
added more ammo  both 22 and 9mm  
Just a few  of the changes   check out the video If you can and tell me what you guys  think  

remember  this isnt just a Bugout bag  / zombie apocalypse / emergency  bag   that stays in my trunk . It is something I use and take with me on the regular   when I go caving   , hiking  , camping  rock climbing  Ect  
which is   pretty often  .

Keep Checking back  because I will be continuing to upload  new videos  and photos   as I make them  


Link Posted: 4/15/2013 2:45:23 PM EDT
[#3]
How comfortable is that pack?

Now load everything up and tell us how much it weighs.

Then carry it for a mile and tell us how much it feels like it weighs.


LD  
Link Posted: 4/15/2013 2:48:02 PM EDT
[#4]
Link Posted: 4/15/2013 3:46:19 PM EDT
[#5]
If you have to bug out it can be mentally stressful which can lead to panic and basic errors that escalate into emergencies. A list of what is in your BOB for when you can't remember what you have and a small survival guide for when you can't remember how to do something basic is useful. Training with all your stuff is the best but a list or guide that helps you focus and make better decisions is also helpful.
Link Posted: 4/15/2013 3:52:49 PM EDT
[#6]
This may sound silly because we are talking about bugging out and SHTF but you might also pack a spare phone charger. You never know what situation could cause you to bug out but there is a possibility that there would be electricity and satellites still available and you might want to be able to send out a message.
Link Posted: 4/15/2013 4:05:11 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
I did a update video on my  Gear bag  
cant get my new youtube vid to embed  




Link Posted: 4/15/2013 4:10:25 PM EDT
[#8]
Might want to toss some ziplocked socks and underwear in there;  nothing makes a cold, wet bug-outer happier than clean, dry socks and skivvies.
Link Posted: 4/15/2013 4:16:48 PM EDT
[#9]
If it were me, I'd just replace the bag.  Painting that stuff can get weird, and maybe the paint flakes off onto important equipment or your clothes or who knows what.

Great post and kit, OP, you'll be very happy in our Survival Discussions subforum under the Outdoors tab.

I won't critique or advise any specifics since people vary, but you can check out the links ar-jedi posted for suggestions, or take a look at my stuff for other ideas: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_10_17/654395_Current_emergency_kit__lots_of_pics.html

Welcome to the board!
Link Posted: 4/15/2013 4:17:09 PM EDT
[#10]

your new video looks good.

1) on your holster question, folks need to know: OWB?  IWB?  at what position?

2) add a whistle hanging from your pack, such that if you fall and are injured you can blow the whistle without having to remove your pack etc.  see: example

3) upgrade on your comms -- you may want to check out the following:
   -- http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_10_22/604477_Ham_Radio_101.html
   -- http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_10_22/646491_the_CAN_T_FAIL_thread_for_getting_a_ham_radio_license_and_learning_basic_VHF_UHF_operations.html

4) lithium AA batts for your flashlight etc. -- these have a shelf life of 10yrs+ so you don't have to worry about swapping them out.  see: example

5) some additional ideas here:  link

ar-jedi

Link Posted: 4/15/2013 6:26:53 PM EDT
[#11]
You've got a very good bag there.  And a good plan.  Know that your MILES ahead of most people who have neither a pack nor a plan.
Link Posted: 4/15/2013 7:15:07 PM EDT
[#12]
First welcome to ARFCOM!  Now, what are you planning for ( I could not watch the video)?  How long and how far do you plan on having to go?  From work or school to home?  What's the lay of the land like?  Do you need a compass and map?  What training have you had?  Those will help you figure out what you need.  I like your set up so far.  Like others have said I would get a multi-tool and I love the little LED AA Maglites I also pack a ton of chem sticks into my bags, those things come in handy.  I hope you visit the survival forum and learn and get ready for anything that may come your way.
Link Posted: 4/16/2013 6:48:57 AM EDT
[#13]
Since you don't like your current holster, check out the Safepacker from Wilderness:

Safepacker

I have a few and they can be belt mounted, backpack hip mounted or you can buy the optional across the chest strap for them. They come in different colors, too.
Link Posted: 4/16/2013 4:06:30 PM EDT
[#14]
For some weird reason, I keep thinking an extra Sports Bra .
Link Posted: 4/16/2013 5:27:27 PM EDT
[#15]
thanks  for the vote of confidence   my friend   , Love your avatar by the way   what is it from ?
Link Posted: 4/16/2013 5:52:31 PM EDT
[#16]
batteries go dead so look in to a shake flash light and a hand crank radio. I have a life straw there pretty cool, purifier tabs will run out.
Link Posted: 4/16/2013 6:44:52 PM EDT
[#17]
It weighs  around 35Lbs    with both firearms and ammo  
I know   I know  that is  heavy   and i am working on  getting higher end  lighter weight items   to lighten the load  
But in the mean time  I just look at it as good exercise


Before I added the extra 50 rds of 9mm  and extra 100 rds of 22, I have taken this pack on   2 Mile  GA  walks a  5 mile NC and SC Foothill  hike and  believe me   any pack over 20Lbs gets Heavy  after the first  2 Miles   when going  up hill with no beaten path

But overall I love it    its a pretty comfy Pack   the pads  and  padded belt work great to keep some airflow  and comfort back there
In fact I have  had some expensive packs  in the past   and none were as comfortable  and cool as this one  

The only thing I hate about the pack is its   Desert Pattern   because  alot of times  when  someone does  happen to see it they have to ask  how long I was In Iraq or Afghanistan  and I get stuck in a Lengthy convo with someone on politics   or war  
I really need to remedy  the color for my own sanity    lol  
So I think i will be trying something   soon  



Link Posted: 4/16/2013 7:24:32 PM EDT
[#18]
One thought about replacing that pack; see what it's running for used on ebay.  Consider selling it to help trade up.
Link Posted: 4/17/2013 7:28:55 AM EDT
[#19]
I don't know if I missed it or not, but sun screen is a big one. I carry a small 50 proof.

What color bag would you prefer?  Going newer like ACU or Multicam or just a tan bag?


Otherwise great job!  Very well rounded and well thought out
Link Posted: 4/17/2013 8:03:39 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
thanks  for the vote of confidence   my friend   , Love your avatar by the way   what is it from ?


If this is asked of me, the avatar is from American Werewolf in London.  I cropped it to the proper dimensions.

Nice doggy.  
Link Posted: 4/17/2013 11:51:11 AM EDT
[#21]
I'll go ahead and throw mine into the mix since I actually use mine relatively often.  Mine is the sole purpose for going 30 Miles to bug out A or 70 Miles to bug out location B.  As such I have tried to make it as modular as possible so it is simple to grab and go with what I need.

It's a Molle II Medium Ruck, it is the perfect size for just about anything.  Plus, I'm a big fan of external frames for carrying anything more than 25lbs or so.  Aslo, I chose the medium rather than the large for two reasons.  Reason 1) It has pockets for organization 2) anything bigger and I would be tempted to fill it further and it would become too heavy.  As it sits, it is 43.2lbs wet.  About 12lbs of that is water (most water will be consumed on the first day walking, I also have multiple planned places to get water along the way and should be able to get by with just refilling the two canteens on the way.)










Main compartment:
Compass and Map are left in Vehicle but will be added when BO happens (since my Jeep is always near me )
100oz Bladder
Katadyn Water Filter
Level 2 ECWCS Jacket
Poncho (doubles as tent when used with 550 cord)
Multicam Buttpouch (empty since it is no longer winter, used to hold Level 6 MC Jacked and Trousers)
Sleeping pad with the sides cut down to make it lighter and more mobile
2 Stripped down MRE's
2 freeze dried entrees
2 freeze dried granola breakfasts
60rds of 75gr BTHP 5.56
51rds of 9mm 115gr JHP
2 Pairs of wool socks and Level 1 ECWCS Silk Weight top and bottom
another 3 Pairs of socks (since no longer winter 2 pairs of these will be taken out)
Boot Sock Liner and White Sweat Wicking T shirt










Second Compartment:
Surefire 6PX (not shown)
3 MRE snacks (for quick easy access)
Spare Socks (for quick easy access)
Hat
Gold Bond Foot Powder (life saver)
The constitution and New Testament Bible
Water Filter for Bladder
Carmex
Vicks Vapor Inahler
Cortizone 10
Floss (more important than brushing...and lighter weight )
Two moist towelettes and two hand towels compressed
Esbit Stove w/4 fuel tabs for boiling water
Spare baggy
Electrical tape
Handkerchief  
Two can openers (for food found along the way)
Raided first aid kit for all the electrolyte, antiseptic, antacid, etc
2 sets of gloves
2 Sets of spare batteries for each light
Pen and Permanent marker (not shown)
50 Proof sunscreen (not shown)
5.56/9mm OTIS Cleaning Kit







Bottom Compartment:
CInch Tight
2 Izzy's
2 HH Gauze
Combat Gauze
Gloves
Booboo Kit stripped down with badaids, butterfly closures, MOLE SKIN (MUST HAVE FOR BLISTERS) and Space Blanket (used in conjunction with tent if sleeping bag is left at home)
Fire starter kit with water/wind proof matches, lighter, cord saw, lighter, candle, fire starting material
Coffee filter for using around water filter (keeps it unclogged for longer periods)
550 Cord wrapped in Duct Tape
Purification tablets for use in the 2 canteens
Camp Soap (nice to feel clean)
Squished Toilet Paper Roll







Outside Pouches
RAT-3 Fixed Blade
2 AR15 Mags with 75gr BTHP
2 Glock 17 Mags with 135gr +P Hornady Critical Duty 9mm
2 1qt Canteens (one with Gas Mask attachment and wind screen for esbit stove)



And of course, my EDC:
Glock 19 Exo with Triji HD Nights and Don't Tread On Me rear plate
Multicam Holster
Spare G17 Mag fueled by 135gr +P Hornady Critical Duty 9mm
Benchmade OTF Infidel Knife
Citizen Eco Drive Watch
Carmex
Streamlight PT2L
Crappy wallet from Target






Black Betty, I hope that gives you some ideas and/or answers.  Any questions, just ask!
Link Posted: 4/17/2013 12:00:56 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
I'll go ahead and throw mine into the mix since I actually use mine relatively often.  Mine is the sole purpose for going 30 Miles to bug out A or 70 Miles to bug out location B.  As such I have tried to make it as modular as possible so it is simple to grab and go with what I need.

It's a Molle II Medium Ruck, it is the perfect size for just about anything.  Plus, I'm a big fan of external frames for carrying anything more than 25lbs or so.  Aslo, I chose the medium rather than the large for two reasons.  Reason 1) It has pockets for organization 2) anything bigger and I would be tempted to fill it further and it would become too heavy.  As it sits, it is 43.2lbs wet.  About 12lbs of that is water (most water will be consumed on the first day walking, I also have multiple planned places to get water along the way and should be able to get by with just refilling the two canteens on the way.)

<a href="http://s946.photobucket.com/user/amoisson/media/80F5C5CA-5EE3-4C47-AC6A-FB44310CD90B-4168-000005711C5203A6.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/amoisson/80F5C5CA-5EE3-4C47-AC6A-FB44310CD90B-4168-000005711C5203A6.jpg</a>

<a href="http://s946.photobucket.com/user/amoisson/media/B90B06B5-0DAB-45D8-8E49-D19DFC9DD468-4168-00000571221F3B4A.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/amoisson/B90B06B5-0DAB-45D8-8E49-D19DFC9DD468-4168-00000571221F3B4A.jpg</a>

<a href="http://s946.photobucket.com/user/amoisson/media/61F7BCBE-B1A3-4B04-8892-2D737B35AB99-4168-000005712D025E7B.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/amoisson/61F7BCBE-B1A3-4B04-8892-2D737B35AB99-4168-000005712D025E7B.jpg</a>

<a href="http://s946.photobucket.com/user/amoisson/media/85BBC4E9-AE35-4B88-924D-FFD582D7B5BA-4168-0000057182584E3B.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/amoisson/85BBC4E9-AE35-4B88-924D-FFD582D7B5BA-4168-0000057182584E3B.jpg</a>


Main compartment:
Compass and Map are left in Vehicle but will be added when BO happens (since my Jeep is always near me )
100oz Bladder
Katadyn Water Filter
Level 2 ECWCS Jacket
Poncho (doubles as tent when used with 550 cord)
Multicam Buttpouch (empty since it is no longer winter, used to hold Level 6 MC Jacked and Trousers)
Sleeping pad with the sides cut down to make it lighter and more mobile
2 Stripped down MRE's
2 freeze dried entrees
2 freeze dried granola breakfasts
60rds of 75gr BTHP 5.56
51rds of 9mm 115gr JHP
2 Pairs of wool socks and Level 1 ECWCS Silk Weight top and bottom
another 3 Pairs of socks (since no longer winter 2 pairs of these will be taken out)
Boot Sock Liner and White Sweat Wicking T shirt

<a href="http://s946.photobucket.com/user/amoisson/media/D5479ACD-10D7-45C9-A21F-AB4DB810A998-4168-0000057133090509.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/amoisson/D5479ACD-10D7-45C9-A21F-AB4DB810A998-4168-0000057133090509.jpg</a>

<a href="http://s946.photobucket.com/user/amoisson/media/ADB257DC-D958-4F1F-ABCC-6AFE132958E5-4168-0000057138BD3CB7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/amoisson/ADB257DC-D958-4F1F-ABCC-6AFE132958E5-4168-0000057138BD3CB7.jpg</a>

<a href="http://s946.photobucket.com/user/amoisson/media/746BC009-D63E-4DED-83A4-74D057BCA7D0-4168-00000571415ECE15.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/amoisson/746BC009-D63E-4DED-83A4-74D057BCA7D0-4168-00000571415ECE15.jpg</a>




Second Compartment:
Surefire 6PX (not shown)
3 MRE snacks (for quick easy access)
Spare Socks (for quick easy access)
Hat
Gold Bond Foot Powder (life saver)
The constitution and New Testament Bible
Water Filter for Bladder
Carmex
Vicks Vapor Inahler
Cortizone 10
Floss (more important than brushing...and lighter weight )
Two moist towelettes and two hand towels compressed
Esbit Stove w/4 fuel tabs for boiling water
Spare baggy
Electrical tape
Handkerchief  
Two can openers (for food found along the way)
Raided first aid kit for all the electrolyte, antiseptic, antacid, etc
2 sets of gloves
2 Sets of spare batteries for each light
Pen and Permanent marker (not shown)
50 Proof sunscreen (not shown)
5.56/9mm OTIS Cleaning Kit

<a href="http://s946.photobucket.com/user/amoisson/media/F6AC9519-E5AB-4F61-8181-2269D7370EB2-4168-000005714C662129.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/amoisson/F6AC9519-E5AB-4F61-8181-2269D7370EB2-4168-000005714C662129.jpg</a>

<a href="http://s946.photobucket.com/user/amoisson/media/F74A60F6-5CA8-43D8-AE0F-6217B226D608-4168-00000571546C8585.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/amoisson/F74A60F6-5CA8-43D8-AE0F-6217B226D608-4168-00000571546C8585.jpg</a>



Bottom Compartment:
CInch Tight
2 Izzy's
2 HH Gauze
Combat Gauze
Gloves
Booboo Kit stripped down with badaids, butterfly closures, MOLE SKIN (MUST HAVE FOR BLISTERS) and Space Blanket (used in conjunction with tent if sleeping bag is left at home)
Fire starter kit with water/wind proof matches, lighter, cord saw, lighter, candle, fire starting material
Coffee filter for using around water filter (keeps it unclogged for longer periods)
550 Cord wrapped in Duct Tape
Purification tablets for use in the 2 canteens
Camp Soap (nice to feel clean)
Squished Toilet Paper Roll

<a href="http://s946.photobucket.com/user/amoisson/media/1B1EA799-F570-4649-8625-F6CC78B7AE18-4168-000005715D66AF1F.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/amoisson/1B1EA799-F570-4649-8625-F6CC78B7AE18-4168-000005715D66AF1F.jpg</a>

<a href="http://s946.photobucket.com/user/amoisson/media/BFE36CA4-0361-4A29-A165-23E45BB47A04-4168-000005716B4610C8.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/amoisson/BFE36CA4-0361-4A29-A165-23E45BB47A04-4168-000005716B4610C8.jpg</a>



Outside Pouches
RAT-3 Fixed Blade
2 AR15 Mags with 75gr BTHP
2 Glock 17 Mags with 135gr +P Hornady Critical Duty 9mm
2 1qt Canteens (one with Gas Mask attachment and wind screen for esbit stove)

<a href="http://s946.photobucket.com/user/amoisson/media/DDCD0E31-468B-4BC2-88DC-38729D89D26B-4168-0000057173ACF882.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/amoisson/DDCD0E31-468B-4BC2-88DC-38729D89D26B-4168-0000057173ACF882.jpg</a>

And of course, my EDC:
Glock 19 Exo with Triji HD Nights and Don't Tread On Me rear plate
Multicam Holster
Spare G17 Mag fueled by 135gr +P Hornady Critical Duty 9mm
Benchmade OTF Infidel Knife
Citizen Eco Drive Watch
Carmex
Streamlight PT2L
Crappy wallet from Target

<a href="http://s946.photobucket.com/user/amoisson/media/5216D266-1261-4B02-A51D-8B85FCEFE669-4168-000005718E820A86.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/amoisson/5216D266-1261-4B02-A51D-8B85FCEFE669-4168-000005718E820A86.jpg</a>




Black Betty, I hope that gives you some ideas and or answers.  Any questions, just ask!


Thats a really good set up. What is the weight of the pack with bed roll?
Link Posted: 4/17/2013 12:09:31 PM EDT
[#23]
Thank you!!  It's been an evolution over the last 5 years of using it and toying with it.  It sits at 43.2lbs with everything pictured, with the sleeping bag (REI 45+) it is about 2lbs added weight.  

I also have an Army Sleep System for the winter that I use with the bivy and recon bag that adds another 3lbs.  But thankfully St. Louis MO doesn't stay that cold for very long during the winter


ETA: I like to keep everything modular so I can tailor things as needed to any given need, and also keep it compatible with my fighting gear.  I do lines, so I have my Every Day Carry, 1st line: AR15 and Combat Pants with belt set up.  2nd Line: Assault pack and Vest or armor depending on situation.  3rd Line is my pack which is shown above.  I can also snap a few pics of those as well if you like?
Link Posted: 4/18/2013 4:44:23 PM EDT
[#24]
Op, to embed video I think one needs to be a team member. Joining adds that ability, gives you the thread subscribe button, and access to team forum and hotd and botd. (Hunk of the day and babe of the day)...

The road is dangerous because there have been other ladies that have entered arfcom and made their presence known and have appreciated and teased the more"likeable" leg humpers. Good thing is they mainly come out in general discussion and aren't seen in any other forum.

Link Posted: 4/18/2013 8:54:35 PM EDT
[#25]
Freaking Awesome Kit   !  I love  everything about it  !  one day My kit will be close to being as Sweet and High end as yours  

Thanks for taking the time to post   and share    I am ssoooooo  Jealous
Link Posted: 4/18/2013 9:11:50 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Freaking Awesome Kit   !  I love  everything about it  !  one day My kit will be close to being as Sweet and High end as yours  

Thanks for taking the time to post   and share    I am ssoooooo  Jealous


haha thanks, trust me, you've definitely started out right with a REALLY  well set up kit, I'm impressed.  I think when I started my first bag I had underwear, an mre, a water bottle, and a map with no compass

Link Posted: 4/21/2013 5:40:11 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Looks good so far.

Needs more fire!


True, Troxain it wonerful stuff. waterproof matches, cotton wading, fine steel wool and a mag block.
otherwise, it is suprisingly similar to my own get home bag.
Link Posted: 4/23/2013 7:53:18 AM EDT
[#28]
Did you get the pack dyed? Someone else posted a link that showed how to dye that ruck.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 5:10:34 PM EDT
[#29]
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 6:50:15 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackbettypreps/8678683847/

I have not  tried to  dye it yet


Vinyl Dye aka Duplicolor seat dye from autozone in the spray can works just fine.  Stripes, blobs, specks, whatever you want it to look like just spray it.  If it starts to wear thin, touch it up quick with a spray.
Link Posted: 4/25/2013 10:55:55 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I'll go ahead and throw mine into the mix since I actually use mine relatively often.  Mine is the sole purpose for going 30 Miles to bug out A or 70 Miles to bug out location B.  As such I have tried to make it as modular as possible so it is simple to grab and go with what I need.

It's a Molle II Medium Ruck, it is the perfect size for just about anything.  Plus, I'm a big fan of external frames for carrying anything more than 25lbs or so.  Aslo, I chose the medium rather than the large for two reasons.  Reason 1) It has pockets for organization 2) anything bigger and I would be tempted to fill it further and it would become too heavy.  As it sits, it is 43.2lbs wet.  About 12lbs of that is water (most water will be consumed on the first day walking, I also have multiple planned places to get water along the way and should be able to get by with just refilling the two canteens on the way.)

<a href="http://s946.photobucket.com/user/amoisson/media/80F5C5CA-5EE3-4C47-AC6A-FB44310CD90B-4168-000005711C5203A6.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/amoisson/80F5C5CA-5EE3-4C47-AC6A-FB44310CD90B-4168-000005711C5203A6.jpg</a>

<a href="http://s946.photobucket.com/user/amoisson/media/B90B06B5-0DAB-45D8-8E49-D19DFC9DD468-4168-00000571221F3B4A.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/amoisson/B90B06B5-0DAB-45D8-8E49-D19DFC9DD468-4168-00000571221F3B4A.jpg</a>

<a href="http://s946.photobucket.com/user/amoisson/media/61F7BCBE-B1A3-4B04-8892-2D737B35AB99-4168-000005712D025E7B.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/amoisson/61F7BCBE-B1A3-4B04-8892-2D737B35AB99-4168-000005712D025E7B.jpg</a>

<a href="http://s946.photobucket.com/user/amoisson/media/85BBC4E9-AE35-4B88-924D-FFD582D7B5BA-4168-0000057182584E3B.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/amoisson/85BBC4E9-AE35-4B88-924D-FFD582D7B5BA-4168-0000057182584E3B.jpg</a>


Main compartment:
Compass and Map are left in Vehicle but will be added when BO happens (since my Jeep is always near me )
100oz Bladder
Katadyn Water Filter
Level 2 ECWCS Jacket
Poncho (doubles as tent when used with 550 cord)
Multicam Buttpouch (empty since it is no longer winter, used to hold Level 6 MC Jacked and Trousers)
Sleeping pad with the sides cut down to make it lighter and more mobile
2 Stripped down MRE's
2 freeze dried entrees
2 freeze dried granola breakfasts
60rds of 75gr BTHP 5.56
51rds of 9mm 115gr JHP
2 Pairs of wool socks and Level 1 ECWCS Silk Weight top and bottom
another 3 Pairs of socks (since no longer winter 2 pairs of these will be taken out)
Boot Sock Liner and White Sweat Wicking T shirt

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Second Compartment:
Surefire 6PX (not shown)
3 MRE snacks (for quick easy access)
Spare Socks (for quick easy access)
Hat
Gold Bond Foot Powder (life saver)
The constitution and New Testament Bible
Water Filter for Bladder
Carmex
Vicks Vapor Inahler
Cortizone 10
Floss (more important than brushing...and lighter weight )
Two moist towelettes and two hand towels compressed
Esbit Stove w/4 fuel tabs for boiling water
Spare baggy
Electrical tape
Handkerchief  
Two can openers (for food found along the way)
Raided first aid kit for all the electrolyte, antiseptic, antacid, etc
2 sets of gloves
2 Sets of spare batteries for each light
Pen and Permanent marker (not shown)
50 Proof sunscreen (not shown)
5.56/9mm OTIS Cleaning Kit

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Bottom Compartment:
CInch Tight
2 Izzy's
2 HH Gauze
Combat Gauze
Gloves
Booboo Kit stripped down with badaids, butterfly closures, MOLE SKIN (MUST HAVE FOR BLISTERS) and Space Blanket (used in conjunction with tent if sleeping bag is left at home)
Fire starter kit with water/wind proof matches, lighter, cord saw, lighter, candle, fire starting material
Coffee filter for using around water filter (keeps it unclogged for longer periods)
550 Cord wrapped in Duct Tape
Purification tablets for use in the 2 canteens
Camp Soap (nice to feel clean)
Squished Toilet Paper Roll

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Outside Pouches
RAT-3 Fixed Blade
2 AR15 Mags with 75gr BTHP
2 Glock 17 Mags with 135gr +P Hornady Critical Duty 9mm
2 1qt Canteens (one with Gas Mask attachment and wind screen for esbit stove)

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And of course, my EDC:
Glock 19 Exo with Triji HD Nights and Don't Tread On Me rear plate
Multicam Holster
Spare G17 Mag fueled by 135gr +P Hornady Critical Duty 9mm
Benchmade OTF Infidel Knife
Citizen Eco Drive Watch
Carmex
Streamlight PT2L
Crappy wallet from Target

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Black Betty, I hope that gives you some ideas and or answers.  Any questions, just ask!


Thats a really good set up. What is the weight of the pack with bed roll?


You should get a compression bed roll. That is what I use in my rig and I backpack quit frequently. Very light and doesn't take much room. Check REI for ideas (Their kinda expensive).

I read some stuff on the past few pages, some really good advice. Just remember essentials, such as water and Food. I live in AZ and hike all over. I work in the summers out in the desert so i have to carry a lot of water. I have a hydration pack and bottled water for some my hikes cause we go through it all. Something that has helped me a lot is a water purifier! OMG, love the thing. I never over nighted a spelunking trip. Most the time my buddies and I just take water, rope, pistols, food and lights. Back packs with lots of gear get difficult to go into caves.

One really nice tip on here I read, dry clothing. Greatest feeling ever after going hiking and spending the night and sweating all day. Get some nice cloths and put the nasty damp cloths in a bag.
Link Posted: 4/25/2013 11:09:28 AM EDT
[#32]
Oh something else that I like to carry. I am big into medical rigs so I have a blow out kit with me also. I don't mind the extra weight of it.

List of a few things i like to take..

Med Kit
Hydration Resorvior
2 Canteens (Or water bottles)
Stream Light stinger with extra Battery
Surefire G3 W/ Batteries (Attached to my med Kit)
Gerber multi-took (Attached to my shoulder strap or med kit)
3 MRE's
G17 w/ 3 Mags
Compressed Sleeping Bag and mat from REI
Hat
magnesium fire starter
Lighter
matches
Small blue tarp
Orange tape
Walkies/Radios
Cell Phone
Pending on weather, change of cloths.
Varmint Calls (If you get hungry and have no food, call in a fox or yote, better than no food)

Also pending on where we go, I might bring a collapsible fishing pole w/box of lures or stink bait for some fresh fish mmmmmmm

Sometimes I cannot take my rifle, that is a reason I didn't list it. I work for the AZGFD as an intern so I cannot always carry a AR15 or any rifle wtih me. But when I do, I usually take my S&W MP22 or my AR15 Carbine with an ACOG TA01NSN (small 4x scope on any rifle is sufficient enough). Summer time out here, Rabbits are full of worms so I try to keep to fish as much as possible when getting wild stuff.

This ins't my whole gear bag, but pretty much the griddy stuff I like to take with me when I go out.

Remember tho! WATER WATER WATER WATER! Dehydration is a killer!
Link Posted: 4/26/2013 5:17:01 AM EDT
[#33]
First off, Thanks for sharing your insights, gonna make my 20 yr old college student daughter read this LOL.  

My bag is an old ALICE pack and I am limited to what I can carry (Navy Contractor.....they frown on bringing firearms on base....) I am far from being a BOB expert,
A quick scan, never saw any kind of hat or gloves.  Also, some coin of them realm and a flash drive with your passport, IDs, vital papers scanned and encrypted.  Some moral items, a family photo and a small Bible will go a long way if tough times (not pushing my beliefs, just sharing)  also some hard candy and instant coffee or tea again to lift the spirit.  If I missed them, apologies.
Great thread.

Never miss a chance to gain more KSA (Knowledge, Skills and Abilities). You said you were a caver,  I have never seen anyone to rivel Firefighters or Cavers for phenominal rope work.
Link Posted: 4/28/2013 3:13:57 PM EDT
[#34]
thanks    for the reply  
I have  a hat in this kit   but no gloves at this point   it is something I am considering as long as   they are lightweight and higher end  like  body armor  brand  
I   have all kinds of ideas of awesome things to put in this kit  but  I have to think about   weight, getting it at a good enough price  and practicality  

i like the idea of moral items    
Link Posted: 4/29/2013 2:44:01 AM EDT
[#35]
Marry me
Link Posted: 4/29/2013 1:11:30 PM EDT
[#36]
Link Posted: 4/29/2013 5:23:22 PM EDT
[#37]
thanks   I have already stripped down the MREs   in the kit  
I like the info you gave  on the  Millennium  bars    I have not tried them yet and will make sure to give them a try , the datrex type bars are Kinda expensive  and really  don't taste good at all  
I had them in the past  from a friends  kit  . Currently  I carry  Power bars in this kit  , They expired about 1 year ago and still taste great   I purchased a huge lot of them a while back  at the flea market .
I know that  taste  wouldn't matter that much in a "real survival situation"  but in the mean time  when I take this kit out into the sticks  for  camping , caving , hiking ect  I would rather have stuff that is  energy giving  as well as  tasty   to  make  my  roughing it trips  just a little more enjoyable  


Thanks for your input and everyone's  comments and suggestions  

Link Posted: 4/29/2013 8:58:27 PM EDT
[#38]
Link Posted: 5/2/2013 8:32:17 PM EDT
[#39]
Put all that crap in the bag and shake the hell out of it upsidedown.  Thorw it off the roof a couple of times- fully loaded.  Pick it up by one shoulder strap, then by a compression strap.  Kick it across the yard- fully loaded.  What broke inside the bag?  Did the bag's stitching break or start to unravel?  

Sorry if I missed it, but I don't see a little monocular/binos.  I have one in my kit for scouting places I'd rather avoid.  Keep those around your neck, along with a small LED squeeze light.  

Add a CD; best signal mirror ever!

Option: Get a busted rifle scope or some other optic.   Take it apart and use whatever lens works best for starting a fire.  Wrap the lens in an old tube sock, fold it over and secure with a couple of rubber bands.  Better yet: Turn the sock inside out, smear it with Vaseline, turn it back inside in, insert lens as above.  Store it in a plastic baggie.  If you have to, cut small pieces of Vaseline smeared sock to aid in fire starting- the Vaseline will burn easily.
Link Posted: 5/19/2013 5:13:59 PM EDT
[#40]
dont forget about "girl corks"... they double as good bandages..
some slightly less tactical clothing might help you stay under the radar a bit more... a bit of camo is one thing but head to toe black and camo makes everyone stand out unless they are hiding in the woods... mesh gym shorts weigh very little and are wonderful on hot days..
Link Posted: 6/2/2013 9:30:16 AM EDT
[#41]
Get a strobe, it can and will save your life if you are lost, injured or stranded.

This particular model is my favorite. 8hr minimum run time on 2 AA's
Has and IR filter. So if you are in a situation where you have hostiles in pursuit of you, you can use the IR filter so that only those with night vision will be able to see your strobe.
That IR filter will also allow your strobe to be seen through clothing, so you can keep it in an outside pocket on your ruck to reduce the chance of losing it.


ACR MS2000
Link Posted: 6/2/2013 12:40:12 PM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
Get a strobe, it can and will save your life if you are lost, injured or stranded.

This particular model is my favorite. 8hr minimum run time on 2 AA's
Has and IR filter. So if you are in a situation where you have hostiles in pursuit of you, you can use the IR filter so that only those with night vision will be able to see your strobe.
That IR filter will also allow your strobe to be seen through clothing, so you can keep it in an outside pocket on your ruck to reduce the chance of losing it.


ACR MS2000


Botach Tactical

But seriously, don't buy from botach
Link Posted: 6/2/2013 7:05:37 PM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Get a strobe, it can and will save your life if you are lost, injured or stranded.

This particular model is my favorite. 8hr minimum run time on 2 AA's
Has and IR filter. So if you are in a situation where you have hostiles in pursuit of you, you can use the IR filter so that only those with night vision will be able to see your strobe.
That IR filter will also allow your strobe to be seen through clothing, so you can keep it in an outside pocket on your ruck to reduce the chance of losing it.


ACR MS2000


Botach Tactical

But seriously, don't buy from botach


Buy from who the hell ever sustains your morning wood, I just googled it and hot linked the first site that popped up to give the woman an idea of what shes looking for.
As a lady I am also sure she's intelligent enough to shop around for the best prices
Link Posted: 6/2/2013 8:06:00 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Get a strobe, it can and will save your life if you are lost, injured or stranded.

This particular model is my favorite. 8hr minimum run time on 2 AA's
Has and IR filter. So if you are in a situation where you have hostiles in pursuit of you, you can use the IR filter so that only those with night vision will be able to see your strobe.
That IR filter will also allow your strobe to be seen through clothing, so you can keep it in an outside pocket on your ruck to reduce the chance of losing it.


ACR MS2000


Botach Tactical

But seriously, don't buy from botach


Buy from who the hell ever sustains your morning wood, I just googled it and hot linked the first site that popped up to give the woman an idea of what shes looking for.
As a lady I am also sure she's intelligent enough to shop around for the best prices

Botach has, on occasion, the best prices.

subsequently after you order you find out that your item was not shipped, the tracking number they gave you is invalid, their customer service folks typically don't answer the phone, they act like they don't even know what you are talking about when they do answer the phone, etc etc etc

< "do i look like a bitch?"
> "no"
< "then why you trying to treat me like one?"

ar-jedi


Link Posted: 7/3/2013 6:26:15 PM EDT
[#45]
Found this cool Knife at the flea market  
It says   Applegate and fairbairn
anyone know if its a  Keeper?
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3795/9130077844_f0fa6279d4.jpg
Link Posted: 7/3/2013 6:32:38 PM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
Found this cool Knife at the flea market  
It says   Applegate and fairbairn
anyone know if its a  Keeper?
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3795/9130077844_f0fa6279d4.jpg


Yep. I love their knives. I have one of their daggers that I have used the crap out of for 12 years or more. Still sharp.
Link Posted: 7/3/2013 6:44:59 PM EDT
[#47]
Awesome   Thanks  !
Link Posted: 7/4/2013 7:04:46 PM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
Hello   I am new to the site  
I wanted to get some advice on my  Bugout Bag / Adventure gear bag  
I keep this bag in the trunk of my car   most everywhere  I go .
I go on hiking  excursions   , caving , camping / Hunting trips  as often as time permits   and always take  my gear  to  find out what works  and what doesn't  
I am constantly upgrading  the  contents   and finding items   that are  Lighter weight   and  higher quality  
but I  just wanted to share and get some opinions  

If I can get  the photos  and video to load please take a look at them and give me some advice   on how I could make it better  

This is the Backpack I found at the flea  market  the guy wanted  more but i talked him down to $20
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8105/8596879609_0ca9c619d7.jpg
It still had the tags  and Plastic packaging on it   .  I know its not a great pattern  but I thought it was a ok  deal  
here is a actual shot of  my pack  with My US Survival Rifle  and my handheld CB that I keep in the bag  
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8508/8595885125_8f846ca77b.jpg




http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8523/8611309547_7decb9ec5c.jpg
Here is a Shot  Of  some of the items in my kit  

I really dont like the  desert Camo   that much   anyone ever tried   to dye or spray paint   cordura  ?

I tried to  embed the youtube video I made of my Kit  but I cant get it to work here    

MORE PHOTOS AND VIDEOS WILL be posted  





I don't get into this section much but yes you can dye the pack.

I did a video on dyeing gear here:


Link Posted: 7/9/2013 4:56:08 PM EDT
[#49]
thanks  alot for your reply and video on dying  dcu gear
Link Posted: 7/12/2013 2:21:30 PM EDT
[#50]
Damn, I wish our flea markets had badass stuff!! Hard to find $150 Camelbak BFM packs for that cheap, not to mention awesome Sykes knives for that cheap!!!!  

As far as flashlights, I have used and owned lots of different quality and cheap lights. I have boiled down to these two. The Streamlight ProTac 2AAA and the Streamlight ProTac 2AA. Reasons being are this. The super bright badass lights that use CR-123 lithium batts seem to burn out pretty quick. And those batts are quite pricey. And if you go with the cheap versions of those batts they noticeably die much quicker. And in a SHTF scenario.... standard "AA" and "AAA" batteries are going to be a lot easier to find AND most standard headlamps use these sizes of batteries. The ProTac 2AAA is basically a pen light and it uses just two of the AAA batteries. Very small, very light but yet very tough (bezel even has a wicked edge on it for headsmashing) and it has three outputs. High it cranks out 80 lumens (very impressive for a small pen light if you ask me), blinding strobe setting which works awesome to take away someones night vision and the low output setting runs on 10 lumens. And they use some smart technology that actually works quite well. Throughout the life of the battery, the flashlight maintains damn near 100% of its output so you still get blinding light until it finally just goes kaput. Waterproof to 1 meter for 30 minutes and like I said tough. Dropped mine 20 feet from a ladder onto concrete and aside from some small scuffs, it still works and nothing broke. The ProTac 2AA uses obviously two of the AA batteries and puts out 120 lumens on high, also has the blinding strobe feature and then runs on 14 lumens on low. All the same features as mentioned for the 2AAA except for a little bigger and brighter. Both are very light and space saving. Think of your standard MagLight at Walmart for the size of the 2AA and a Sharpie Marker for the size of the 2AAA. I bought mine at Streichers for $35 for the 2AAA and $48 for the 2AA. I'm sure you can find them cheaper but even full priced, very reasonable for the high quality you get. Streamlight quit making the 2AAA with the strobe feature but you can still find them. No, I'm not a Streamlight sales rep, I have just messed with so many lights using cheap common batteries, expensive batteries, uncommon batteries and rechargeables..... and these are the best I have found for the money and the quality and the battery power availability. Otherwise you are doing a damn fine job young SHTF B.O.B Jedi!!

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