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Posted: 5/3/2012 1:03:34 AM
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Posted: 5/3/2012 1:13:29 AM
Our narcotics/currency K9 is a Belgian Malanois, and I can tell you the big bastard sheds all over the place. Goofy as the day is long, too and never shuts up when he's out of the truck. Our handler loves to pick handfuls of fur off him and throw them at us to. I've learned to keep a lint roller in my bag to keep my uniform clean.
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Posted: 5/3/2012 1:33:47 AM
Originally Posted By 45FMJoe:
Our narcotics/currency K9 is a Belgian Malanois, and I can tell you the big bastard sheds all over the place. Goofy as the day is long, too and never shuts up when he's out of the truck. Our handler loves to pick handfuls of fur off him and throw them at us to. I've learned to keep a lint roller in my bag to keep my uniform clean. Yikes! I'm use to a double coat dog but that sounds crazy. |
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Posted: 5/3/2012 1:38:12 AM
Originally Posted By Mblades: Originally Posted By 45FMJoe: Our narcotics/currency K9 is a Belgian Malanois, and I can tell you the big bastard sheds all over the place. Goofy as the day is long, too and never shuts up when he's out of the truck. Our handler loves to pick handfuls of fur off him and throw them at us to. I've learned to keep a lint roller in my bag to keep my uniform clean. Yikes! I'm use to a double coat dog but that sounds crazy. Our handler showed up at the office I was working in two weeks ago and used another officer's computer. She came in the next day and was bitching about the dog hair all over her desk and computer, it was pretty fucking funny. In fact, she was telling someone else about it yesterday - guess it really made an impression on her. LOL. |
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Posted: 5/3/2012 2:05:08 PM
Some of them are slicker haired. Mine sheds practically not at all, nowhere near what my german shepherd did. IMO they are tremendous dogs for a pretty committed owner. They have to have some training, both so you can handle them and because mentally they require it.
My dog seems to be quite different to the one the other guy is describing, mine is very quiet, only barks when someone is around, pretty much a warning barker, otherwise not a sound. Mine stays inside, sleeps with us, and is a very social dog, sometimes to the extent that she won't leave you alone. Biting is a treat for a mali, letting them bite is used as a reward in training, so be aware that if you are going to have a dog that will bite, they need to be trained to do it on command, and to come out on command. They also need to have a bulletproof 'down' or 'sit' just for control. The majority of them are bred for sport (PSA, IPO, Sch, etc) or for police/military work. I think most of the breeders of malinois are in this mode, but there are often a couple in each litter that are not super high drive competition type dogs that will make better 'pet' dogs. Even the lower drive malinois will be likely more dog than you have handled in the past, and will usually be solid protection dogs. Mine is going to visit this weekend, so she can get a few bites on a decoy, and work on her 'out'. Here's mine at about 6 months old, she's 9 mo. now. ![]() |
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Posted: 5/4/2012 2:16:38 PM
Originally Posted By jstevens: Even the lower drive malinois will be likely more dog than you have handled in the past... I just quoted this statement to emphasize it. Malinois are GREAT dogs in the hands of the RIGHT PERSON. Just please do the research and make sure you're the right person for a Malinois! |
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Posted: 5/4/2012 7:42:07 PM
I got mine knowing it had a few issues. She did not have a good start to life, she was not socialized and had a few physical scars. The tip of her ear was missing a chunk and her tail was broken at one time but healed. I have had GSDs growing up, and a Border Collie in the last 10 years and they are lazy compared to the Mal. I spend about 1 to 2 hours a day walking and some other activity for her, and I feel I should be doing more. A 1 or 2 mile walk is just a warm up, she begs to be worked. I will walk her, then set up the tunnel and the teeter totter and other crap I have laying around to run her through/ After that I will throw the ball for her, but I have to make it hard and make sure the ball disappears in the wood pile or some where else she needs to use her nose to find it. It is kind of like driving a Corvette to the neighborhood grocery store a couple of times a week, you need to get it out and see how hard you can push it.
Mine has been easy to train with basic commands, leash work. She picked up on what I wanted with in a day, maybe two. The poster above who said they like to bite is correct, mine used to love coming up and pulling on your clothing, nipping at your hands( that has been corrected). The trainer I go to call them Malligators, and I can see why. Bottom line is that they need discipline, socialization and a JOB to do. They need physical and mental work not just one or the other. I am not an expert by any means, I got her about 9 months ago and it has been fun but a lot of work. |
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Posted: 5/6/2012 10:44:51 PM
Place holder for pics later....bottom line best dog ever! I've handled two, one in Iraq....by far the sweetest/protective partner I've ever had. As mentioned above....make sure you have enough time to devote to them or you will regret it.
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Posted: 5/7/2012 10:45:44 PM
Currently I have a 6 month old pup and ive had working line shepherds and malinois. The malinois will require a LOT of attention. Do yourself a favor and babysit one for a week before getting one. The malinois is more than energetic, if you are not prepared you will have a dog with so much nervous energy it will develop extremely bad habits if it is left alone for long periods of time. This is a serious animal and i just hate to see one go to someone who doesnt understand what theyre getting into. It would be a tragedy to get a beautiful high drive malinois pup only to become disenchanted with him as he grows into the animal as advertised.....its a serious dog.He will bite, he will jump on people, he will bark and destroy shit with a vigor you cant comprehend. If you are not going to be with him all the time he will not be a house dog.
If you read this and still want one....get to a dogsport club and prepare to look at all other dogs with disdain because you will love these dogs. They are so smart and trainable and loyal..you will love them. |
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Posted: 5/8/2012 1:12:53 PM
[Last Edit: 5/8/2012 1:13:37 PM by jstevens]
Originally Posted By Havoc11:
Currently I have a 6 month old pup and ive had working line shepherds and malinois. The malinois will require a LOT of attention. Do yourself a favor and babysit one for a week before getting one. The malinois is more than energetic, if you are not prepared you will have a dog with so much nervous energy it will develop extremely bad habits if it is left alone for long periods of time. This is a serious animal and i just hate to see one go to someone who doesnt understand what theyre getting into. It would be a tragedy to get a beautiful high drive malinois pup only to become disenchanted with him as he grows into the animal as advertised.....its a serious dog.He will bite, he will jump on people, he will bark and destroy shit with a vigor you cant comprehend. If you are not going to be with him all the time he will not be a house dog. If you read this and still want one....get to a dogsport club and prepare to look at all other dogs with disdain because you will love these dogs. They are so smart and trainable and loyal..you will love them. I agree with all this 100%. They love to bite, you often let them bite as a reward in training. I think some of the other problems described above can be eliminated if they are socialized properly. Mine doesn't destroy much (will chew up blankets, etc) doesn't bark much, and does well when left home while i'm at work. I definitely do not leave her in the main part of the house, but in a mud room with a concrete floor! I would say that I have had lots of working dogs, but only a couple that were truly 'serious'. The mali tend to be very social, want to be with people, and really clingy, which would seem to go against their 'serious' nature. In other words, very loving dogs that are way above all in ease of training, but if you can't fool with them a bit both mentally and physically every day, they are not for you. If you talk to a decent breeder, they will place you with a somewhat more 'relaxed' puppy if you tell them the truth. Many may not even sell you one as a pet. I did some bitework with mine Sunday with the people I got her from, she had a littermate that was nasty enough she wouldn't sell to a 'pet' home of any kind. When it was a pup, she woke it up, got bitten on the arm, and her left leg before she even knew it. Mine has none of the handler aggression, and bites just as well in her work. This one is being trained and is going to a prison as a security/drug detection dog. Just bear in mind that even the average/lower drive mali will be wild, energetic, athletic, and will bite! Mine can easily face me, jump up, and lick me on the forehead just playing around. Great dogs, though, I really have enjoyed mine. All of this will apply to a dutch shepherd as well, just in case you run into one. |
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Posted: 5/14/2012 7:53:29 AM
Originally Posted By jstevens:
Originally Posted By Havoc11:
Currently I have a 6 month old pup and ive had working line shepherds and malinois. The malinois will require a LOT of attention. Do yourself a favor and babysit one for a week before getting one. The malinois is more than energetic, if you are not prepared you will have a dog with so much nervous energy it will develop extremely bad habits if it is left alone for long periods of time. This is a serious animal and i just hate to see one go to someone who doesnt understand what theyre getting into. It would be a tragedy to get a beautiful high drive malinois pup only to become disenchanted with him as he grows into the animal as advertised.....its a serious dog.He will bite, he will jump on people, he will bark and destroy shit with a vigor you cant comprehend. If you are not going to be with him all the time he will not be a house dog. If you read this and still want one....get to a dogsport club and prepare to look at all other dogs with disdain because you will love these dogs. They are so smart and trainable and loyal..you will love them. I agree with all this 100%. Same here. I have never owned one, but I have been around many of them in training and competitions. My best description for them is that they are like GSDs on crack. I would like to own one some day, but not while I have small kids. |
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Posted: 5/19/2012 9:27:11 PM
Thanks for all the info everyone.
I don't feel like we are going into this unprepared. Part of the reason for wanting a Malinois is to match the energy and intelligence of the Australian shepherd we already have. The aussie has seemingly limitless amounts of energy and desire to work even when compared to other Aussies she interacts with. We took her because she was destructive in her previous home but after some training and plenty of mental and physical exercise shes become a great dog. I know the Mal maybe a whole other level but I feel like the gap won't be as wide as someone coming from owning other breads. |
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Posted: 5/20/2012 12:21:32 AM
Originally Posted By AF_K9:
Place holder for pics later....bottom line best dog ever! I've handled two, one in Iraq....by far the sweetest/protective partner I've ever had. As mentioned above....make sure you have enough time to devote to them or you will regret it. This. I've handled two. Both were older when I got them but the energy levels were still retarded high. I love mine and can't wait to pick up another one here soon. Once I get a yard I plan to adopt one as well.
Refer to avatar for pic of my mal |
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Posted: 5/20/2012 10:53:54 PM
[Last Edit: 5/20/2012 11:02:24 PM by kerry]
You have been given a lot of good advice.I own a Dutch Shepherd, they are very similar in character to a Mal. If you are gonna get a Mal do a LOT of research and find a good breeder, and be VERY HONEST when you tell the breeder your experience and intentions for the dog. Going to check out some dog clubs, "PSA, Mondio and such" would be time well spent. I would suggest finding a good "bite sport club" before you get a Mal.
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Posted: 5/21/2012 7:51:31 AM
Did the decoy get his middle finger bitten off?
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Posted: 5/21/2012 8:49:25 PM
Originally Posted By abnk:
Did the decoy get his middle finger bitten off? LOL, that's what happens when you decoy too long. He actually lost the finger in a bike accident. |
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Posted: 6/1/2012 3:37:22 PM
great thread I have been researching these dogs for a while and I think this will be our next one. probally not for a few years or 2. there are a lot of K( places around so I plan on taking it there. I have a Black GS and the local GS club said no because he is part wolf, and they only accept AKC shepards. Bullshit.
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Posted: 6/1/2012 9:45:53 PM
Thats bs that they only let akc dogs in their club. What do they exclude euro dogs ? Ive never seen a wolf hybrid do bite work, not that it couldnt, ive just never seen it. Theres a guy in our club that does bite work with a jack russell terrier. Its hilarious because hes actually good at ! Ive seen a lot of akc dogs that dont have the courage for it. You just never know.
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Posted: 7/2/2012 9:16:43 PM
Originally Posted By Havoc11:
Thats bs that they only let akc dogs in their club. What do they exclude euro dogs ? Ive never seen a wolf hybrid do bite work, not that it couldnt, ive just never seen it. Theres a guy in our club that does bite work with a jack russell terrier. Its hilarious because hes actually good at ! Ive seen a lot of akc dogs that dont have the courage for it. You just never know. at the club i go to there is a welsh corgie that is bite trained to bite at a not so very nice place. but after owning a dutch i will never own anything else but shepherds. Absolutely THE BEST dogs you could ever dream of owning. but like everyone here has said they are a LOT of work. I came home from work the other day to find my house in shambles. My first thought was, shit I've been robbed, but then shortly realized my loving Dutchy sitting wagging her tail in the midse of all the chaos. hahaha |
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Posted: 7/11/2012 9:56:10 PM
My wife and I rescued a Malinois puppy 2 years ago when she was 14 weeks old. She had been abused as a young pup and we had some issues trying to housebrake her. And yes they are high energy dogs that need alot of attention and ours will destroy blankets when left home alone also..lol
jstevens...i completely understand your concern with a high energy dog and small kids.. but i would say if you want a Malinois you can still have one even with small kids just make sure you get one as a puppy and socialize them from day one. We started out by having our kids hold the leash on walks and feeding her (also taking the food way from her) and there had NEVER been an issue. Our malinois is very protective of our 3 daughters and our home. Although she still tries to be the alpha dog and can be stubborn at times...when she is in the house..she really does know her place and never makes any advances toward our kids. Other little kids maybe but not ours. There are times where she will jump up on the chair with me or my wife and makes herself vocal with a small growl but all we have to do is say "excuse me" and she knows she is wrong then lays there happy as can be. This she only does with me and my wife. She is allowed in our girls bedrooms to laying on the bed with them and has never growled at them. Our Malinois is also very gentle with the cats too. I just wanted to share this info with you. Good Luck in the future whenever you decide to get one. |
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Posted: 7/13/2012 10:52:43 PM
It has pretty much been well covered here. My wife and I rescued a 9 month old mal about exactly two years ago. Didn't know it was a mal or what the hell a mal even was at the time. Thought she was a GSD mix of some kind. As she grew and we investigated more, it became pretty obvious we had a pure mal.
High energy, very smart, loyal and protective of us and "her" surrounding area (which includes the entire sidewalk route we walk twice a day. Was a total life adjustment at first. Now, I wouldn't trade her for the world. Best of luck if you end up getting one. <––––––––- Remi |
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Posted: 7/30/2012 11:10:00 PM
Updates man.... updates!
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