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Posted: 1/22/2012 12:56:04 PM
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THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT
I will give the short story on our trip which was quite unremarkable.

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Edit: Trigger groups purchased @ Shot and carried in carry-on got you stopped, detained; then Feds and LV Metro wrote reports and your fun trip turned to shit.

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/prohibited/permitted-prohibited-items.shtm#6



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Posted: 1/22/2012 1:02:26 PM
Paragraphs are important.
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Posted: 1/22/2012 1:18:36 PM
Sounds like an interesting story, but I can't figure out what you are talking about other than your friend had gun parts?
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Posted: 1/22/2012 1:26:44 PM
Originally Posted By Wespe:
Sounds like an interesting story, but I can't figure out what you are talking about other than your friend had gun parts?


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Posted: 1/22/2012 1:48:20 PM
You fail at composition.

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Posted: 1/22/2012 2:00:48 PM
I was the guy in the back and side shaking my black bag vigously to make sure nothing gun related is in there.

Just magazines and stickers.

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Posted: 1/22/2012 2:10:13 PM
We learned really quick from our trips to the SAR show in Phoenix that the TSA guys are not going to let us have ANYTHING that is a gun part, or looks like a gun part in our carry-on bags.

Just the way it is.
Yes, our parts are tight, we did that on purpose.

Don't sweat it. It's a service rifle, not a Fabergé egg. "Hognose'
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Posted: 1/22/2012 2:24:35 PM
gel shoe inserts on that list of prohibited items is
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Posted: 1/22/2012 4:15:32 PM
it is hard to believe moons ago, there are people I know that traveled with their LL and RR and also their HK sears with them in their check in with no flinging glare eyes from TSA.

Today everyone is paranoid.

TSA to the SAR show a couple years back allowed us with some MG-42 internals but coming back they said no.

What was the difference, we mentioned what it is was.....

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Posted: 1/22/2012 4:33:26 PM
This was the first year that i did not buy anything at the show. In the past I've bought knives, LaRue mounts, AR parts and other items. Driving to SHOT has its advantages.
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Posted: 1/22/2012 5:14:39 PM
Sometimes you will get an overzealous TSA type that will demand that event the most benign gun parts be in a locked case in your checked baggage.

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Posted: 1/22/2012 5:50:08 PM
It's understandable I think. If people stashed every "part" allowed on the flight, it wouldn't take long to assemble a pistol.
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Posted: 1/22/2012 5:52:19 PM
While making my way through security at Vegas yesterday I noticed a knife clipped to the pocket of the guy next to me who was next to go through the scanner. I pointed at it discreetly and when he realized what I was pointing at a look of panic developed on his face and he covered it with his hand. He told me "I guess I'll have to throw it away." Poor guy looked sick to his stomach.
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Posted: 1/22/2012 6:43:23 PM
Originally Posted By PreheatedJunk:
While making my way through security at Vegas yesterday I noticed a knife clipped to the pocket of the guy next to me who was next to go through the scanner. I pointed at it discreetly and when he realized what I was pointing at a look of panic developed on his face and he covered it with his hand. He told me "I guess I'll have to throw it away." Poor guy looked sick to his stomach.


This.... ^^^^^

TSA bagged zbrane once for a knife no one could find. They "saw" it but could not get their hands on it. They X-ray-ed it 3x. It had fallen into a rip within the backpack. When they finally "GOT" it - they said he could throw it away to board, he said NO, I'll mail it to myself, which he did successfully.
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Posted: 1/22/2012 6:52:38 PM
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Sometimes you will get an overzealous TSA type that will demand that event the most benign gun parts be in a locked case in your checked baggage.




They are doing their job..... It's very easy to get a gun through security piece by piece.
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Posted: 1/22/2012 10:44:15 PM
I wanted to be at the check point with the international attendee who purchased the RPG mock up from the Blue-Guns booth. I watched him take it apart and tie it into his backpack.
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Originally Posted By callmestick:
Originally Posted By juan223:
Sometimes you will get an overzealous TSA type that will demand that event the most benign gun parts be in a locked case in your checked baggage.




They are doing their job..... It's very easy to get a gun through security piece by piece.


CHECKED BAGGAGE

They hunted down a guy at the boarding gate for having a stripped mauser barrel in his CHECKED baggage, no other parts, no access to the baggage hold if he did. They wanted him arrested, local PD said no and took charge of it until a friend of passenger could pick it up.

I was listening to this and as they were done I asked the lead TSA guy about this, he was adament that any and all 'gun parts' would need to be declared and locked as if they were firearms themselves. I asked him that if I had a lone magazine spring and nothing else would that apply, he said yes.

'Doing their job' my ass....
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Posted: 1/23/2012 9:01:53 AM
Originally Posted By juan223:
Originally Posted By callmestick:
Originally Posted By juan223:
Sometimes you will get an overzealous TSA type that will demand that event the most benign gun parts be in a locked case in your checked baggage.




They are doing their job..... It's very easy to get a gun through security piece by piece.


CHECKED BAGGAGE

They hunted down a guy at the boarding gate for having a stripped mauser barrel in his CHECKED baggage, no other parts, no access to the baggage hold if he did. They wanted him arrested, local PD said no and took charge of it until a friend of passenger could pick it up.

I was listening to this and as they were done I asked the lead TSA guy about this, he was adament that any and all 'gun parts' would need to be declared and locked as if they were firearms themselves. I asked him that if I had a lone magazine spring and nothing else would that apply, he said yes.

'Doing their job' my ass....


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Posted: 1/23/2012 11:12:35 AM
Rent-a-cops on a power trip.
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Posted: 1/23/2012 1:13:41 PM

Originally Posted By Lion_Dog:


Edit: Trigger groups purchased @ Shot and carried in carry-on got you stopped, detained; then Feds and LV Metro wrote reports and your fun trip turned to shit.


Yep, firearms parts are NOT allowed as carry-on.
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Posted: 1/23/2012 2:16:56 PM
yeah I got stopped in Austin, TX with a nightforce scope in my carryone. I just told them it was a range finder and they scanned it again seperatly and let me carry it on
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Posted: 1/23/2012 7:19:25 PM
don't just complain, vote for Ron Paul he wants to shut the TSA down and have our actual government agencies do a better job.
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Posted: 1/23/2012 8:44:28 PM
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Welcome to the club of people with their rights violated. Police cant just pull you over and search you for no reason and take your mouth wash, guns, knives, shampoo, and laptop batterys so TSA shouldnt be allowed to. I feel for all the victims of september 11th that were killed in the buildings and the plane. It would have never happened if people had not decided to be sheep and had the pilots acted more like a cab driver by keeping the damn door shut. Thanks to them you get your rights violated daily. Luckally, the attitute of passengers and pilots have changed.

Edit - mean no disrespect to the victims it is just a way of life that the citizens of this country have become acustom to being protected by others and from theirselfs.
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Posted: 1/24/2012 10:45:36 AM
If you are going to a GUNSHOW, bring an empty lockable hard case for all the stuff you might purchase at the show.

It's really simple to follow the law if you understand what the actual regulations are.





If you are going to be the guy that thinks he can carry on a prohibited item then you will be "inconvenienced". And if you sit there and bitch it will do no good anyways.

When I was activated for airport security duty after 911 we had the most trouble from rich old lady's and businessmen in suits.

They seemed to think that they deserved an exemption because of their "status".
Yes, our parts are tight, we did that on purpose.

Don't sweat it. It's a service rifle, not a Fabergé egg. "Hognose'
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Posted: 1/24/2012 12:17:26 PM
Originally Posted By mike_nds:
If you are going to a GUNSHOW, bring an empty lockable hard case for all the stuff you might purchase at the show.

It's really simple to follow the law if you understand what the actual regulations are.





If you are going to be the guy that thinks he can carry on a prohibited item then you will be "inconvenienced". And if you sit there and bitch it will do no good anyways.

When I was activated for airport security duty after 911 we had the most trouble from rich old lady's and businessmen in suits.

They seemed to think that they deserved an exemption because of their "status".


maybe they do! are they the ones blowing shit up and using planes as missiles?
let's be honest, profiling is the way to go for the most part. it aint pc but a street wise agent can read people better than a scanner.

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Posted: 1/24/2012 6:54:35 PM
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It's really simple to follow the law if you understand what the actual regulations are.



Thats the problem the airline rules are NOT A LAW. They are TSA POLICY that was cooked up by TSA without representation of the American people. They are then enforced like a law. In many states it is NOT illegal for a CCW holder to take a firearm into a airport. It is also allowed under law for all law enforcement officers on or off duty. TSA has taken it upon their self to make a POLICY and enforce it by depriving rights of the people. Most of the charges that are brought upon citizens are thrown out of court because the act is not illegal. Recently this can be seen in Richmond Va. when a man stood in line waiting for an Xray with his bill of rights written on his chest with a sharpy. The man was detain and eventually charged with disorderly conduct. The commonwealth then promptly declined to prosecute the charge because it does not meet the code. This individual would have been well within his rights to sue and probably should have. His charge went well beyond the officer made a minor mistake and charged him with something they shouldnt have. TSA then sidesteps the charges being dismissed by going after the law abiding citizen with a civil fine.

I could go on and on and on about how wrong this is and how one day very soon someone is going to get sued for millions. However, the average citizen goes along with this because of fear. This is fine but in that case congress needs to pass an actual law prohibiting items on an aircraft. The executive branch should never create stuff to enforce on their own initiative because it is simply contrary to the constitution (this goes for some ATF regs as well but at least most have routes in interpretations of the law.) There could be whole threads on this topic. Until then if you simply dont want the attention, see the above and lock all of your gun stuff in a carry on (dont get me started on how the airlines are infringing upon interstate commerce with a firearm by charging a check bag fee for only a firearm.)
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