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Posted: 2/11/2009 7:34:23 AM
Plug in and play...
If you or others don't think you sound that good... Chances are, its not your amps tone. |
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Posted: 2/23/2009 7:34:48 PM
Originally Posted By BurningPalaces:
DO NOT go buy a Mesa Boogie and then complain that your low end sounds like sludge and you can't distinguish between strings. WHAT?!?!?!?!? Mesa's are some of the best amps for clarity in overdrive. You can go from the lower notes and let them ring out while playing on the higher string at the same time, and hear everything as clear as day! Sounds like you are jealous of Mesa's!Everyone has there own tone they like.... And every part of your rig plays a big part in your tone! Play around with different combinations of gear and see what you think sounds best! My tips...... 1. More effects might sound good when playing by yourself but when mixed with other instruments, it'll just muddy up the sound. The biggest mistake I see new guitarists, or new to playing live make is to use too many effects all cranked up too loud for their amp.... and it'll just sound like noise. 2. Learn the Rhythm part of a song first, then work on a solo. when playing with others everyone needs to be on the same page as far as the way the song goes. I've played with people who just want to solo over everything, and think they are Joe Satriani, while that might be fun for playing at home or jamming with one other person it doesn't work for writing music or playing live. 3.For really cool distortion while recording, use an acoustic guitar for one track, then use the electric guitar with your overdrive on another track. and blend. The acoustic seems to really bring the overdrive up, make it clearer, and give a your tone a bassy feel. |
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Posted: 2/23/2009 9:12:44 PM
[Last Edit: 2/23/2009 9:20:37 PM by mentalstampede]
I've got one...HIgh-gain lovers take note:.
Turn down your preamp gain and crank the master volume instead. You can get some cool sounds that way by driving the power section of your amp hard instead of getting all your gain from the preamp. That's why I like my amps in the 50 watt range instead of the super-powerful triple-rectifier type of rig that seems to be all the rage. You can crank the master volume without getting too loud to be practical. If you're not gonna drive the tubes hard, what's the point of having an all-tube amp? A 50 watt amp running balls-out to keep up will almost always sound better than a 150 watt amp at the same volume level. Another thought: If you're playing with a full band, don't aggressively scoop your mids. That bottom-heavy scooped mids sound that sounds so great when you're standing alone in front of your amp can and will turn to mud when there's a drummer, a bassist, a vocalist, and another guitarist all trying to be heard at the same time. |
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Posted: 4/8/2009 12:08:15 AM
Big strings, high action, small frets, fixed thru-body bridges, good <50watt tube amp, most important...your hands.
Oh...and just because it sounds good sitting on the floor of your living room, doesn't mean it sounds good in a band setting and/or mic'd up going out a PA. |
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Posted: 5/17/2009 8:51:57 PM
Remember to use the knobs on the guitar and the way you play to adjust your tone as well. The volume and tone knobs on the guitar are very useful in modulating tone, and the volume knob may have more affect than you would think. Also, picking/strumming force/position have a huge impact on tone, as do string choice and, to a lesser extent, pick choice (yes, it does make a difference).
Another thing to remember, is that just because you don't get any buzzing, doesn't mean your action isn't too low. Every guitar has a "sweetspot" where it really opens up. For some guitars, that spot is just above the buzzing point, for others, you may need to have the action significantly higher. DON'T AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME YOU JUST NEED TO SET THE AMP!!!!!!!!!! Every guitar sounds different, if you can't get the tone you want, it might not be possible with your guitar, regardless of amplifier/effects used; which is why the most important thing is to play a guitar before buying it. Remember, a shitty amp can make a good guitar sound like ass, but the best amp in the world can't make a "dead" guitar sound good. Other tips I've picked up.... Whenever possible, use the smallest amp with enough power for what you're trying to do. This is especially true of tube amps. The componentery and speakers sound best when under a bit of load. Not only will a 30W 1-12" combo be more than enough to play most small bar gigs, it will actually sound better than a 200W full stack under those circumstances. It will also be much easier to haul into and out of said bar. Expensive cables do make a significant difference. Whether or not that difference is a good thing depends on your particular rig and tastes. Don't play too loud. It is easier to hear everyone in the band when the volume is kept at a comfortable level. If you don't know the appropriate level for the room you are playing, ask the sound guy. |
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Posted: 9/11/2009 6:23:10 PM
if all you play is clean guitar, play it thhrough a bass amp. so much more power behind it.
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Posted: 10/1/2009 11:31:52 PM
This guy obviously thinks like I do. I'm tried & true simple when it comes to tone. Guitar- Amp with alot of gain. Simple as that. I know people who play with Hughes & Kettner expensive heads with on-board effects and it just doesn't have the tone of my Dual-Recto with a 4x12 Vintage-30 cab. Just my .02. |
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Posted: 11/21/2009 7:44:57 PM
If you like blues and classic rock, buy a low powered tube amp and crank it. It's the key to guitar tone.
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Posted: 11/21/2009 7:59:02 PM
Try different speakers and cabinets. My own main amp, which is a fully custom built amp, sounds like two totally different amplifiers entirely when I switch from my
EVM-12L cabinets to a Marshall 4x12 bottom loaded with Vintage 30s. The tonal character is as much in the speakers and cabinets as anywhere else. CJ |
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Posted: 11/25/2009 12:19:22 PM
Originally Posted By cmjohnson: Try different speakers and cabinets. My own main amp, which is a fully custom built amp, sounds like two totally different amplifiers entirely when I switch from my EVM-12L cabinets to a Marshall 4x12 bottom loaded with Vintage 30s. The tonal character is as much in the speakers and cabinets as anywhere else. CJ What kinds of effects to different cabinets have on tone, assuming that the number, type, and size of speakers are all the same? |
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Posted: 11/25/2009 4:31:12 PM
The difference can be surprising. Sometimes, all the difference between a "modern" tone and a "vintage" tone is the speaker/cabinet selection,
with the same amplifier. My custom amp is downright mean. I've stacked it up side by side with some really GOOD high gain Marshalls, and my amp is considerably meaner and with more tonal texture to it as well. That's with EV's. When I tried it out with a Marshall 4x12 loaded with Vintage 30s, it sounded more like a classic British tone but still with more gain and balls. But the character changed completely when I changed from one speaker cabinet type to another. You really would not have thought it was the same amp. Speakers and cabinets are a huge part of the tone. CJ |
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Posted: 1/21/2010 9:20:04 PM
I have a 20 watt Marshall combo with tube preamp. I use the "pre-amp out" jack, and plug that into a 60 watt Peavey bass amp. Epiphone Dot semi-hollow body with Humbuckers.
Sometimes use a pedal, but not really needed. Great tone. |
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Posted: 2/15/2010 8:51:34 PM
I have to disagree with the statement "big strings, small frets, high action" for big tone.
2 out of 3 isn't bad, but big frets are what I prefer. The huge Dunlop 6100 wire isn't too big! Taller fretwire means easier fretting with less pressure, allowing faster play and easier bending when your fingertips never have to touch and drag on the fingerboard. Most people who try bigger fretwire end up liking it, based on what I've seen for myself. I personally don't know a single really FAST player that likes low fretwire. CJ |
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Posted: 2/16/2010 4:21:21 PM
Originally Posted By cmjohnson:
I have to disagree with the statement "big strings, small frets, high action" for big tone. 2 out of 3 isn't bad, but big frets are what I prefer. The huge Dunlop 6100 wire isn't too big! Taller fretwire means easier fretting with less pressure, allowing faster play and easier bending when your fingertips never have to touch and drag on the fingerboard. Most people who try bigger fretwire end up liking it, based on what I've seen for myself. I personally don't know a single really FAST player that likes low fretwire. CJ For sure. I used to scallop all my necks because the tallest frewire wasn't tall enough for me. I didn't like to feel the wood slowing my hands down. Also, it was easier to get under the string and do big bends without all the wood there. I will say, years after having gone back to normal necks... scalloped frets may have given me more speed and string control, but my tone is WAY better now. Of course, that's probably due more to a maturity of playing and hearing than it is the extra wood. |
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Posted: 2/16/2010 10:08:36 PM
Here's a huge tone tip: STEREO RIG.
I (finally) had my Mesa/boogie SOB (first "reissue" of the Mark 1) rebuilt and restored to service. It features a fully buffered all tube effects loop now, too. Though it's not the high gain modern rock monster that I like to play, it has the virtue of having a power amp section that is identical to the power amp section of my main, fully custom made amplifier. Same exact output transformer, almost identical plate voltages and bias levels, pretty much the same amp from the effects loop on through to the speaker output. So it's a perfect satellite amp for running with my main rig in stereo. Even the speaker cabs are matched. (Single 12s of the same cabinet design, with EVM-12Ls) I just got to play with both rigs together in stereo last night, and I think my brain is smoking. an entirely new level. What few tonal differences there are between the two amps were able to mostly be massaged out of them by judicious tweaking of the 1/3 octave EQ. Each amp has its own EQ channel. I can't wait to try it out at a time when I can crank it up without (much) fear of complaining neighbors. In my neighborhood, most people work during the day, and those that don't are elderly and pretty deaf, so I can get away with it on the next weekday I take off. Stereo MORE than doubles the fun factor. CJ |
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Posted: 2/17/2010 11:29:45 AM
[Last Edit: 2/17/2010 11:36:36 AM by Red_Label]
Definitely hard to beat a stereo rig for a big, fat, loud sound.
P.S. My daily practice rig is a Vox Tonelab LE floorboard running stereo into a Rocktron Velocity 300 power amp, into these same Marshall 1960 cabs. The Traynor tube heads are just too loud to sound good at such low volumes. Love the tone on the Vox! But yeah... I'm spoiled now. Can't even get into practice without running into both 4X12 cabs. I've rid myself of my combos. ![]() |
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Posted: 3/6/2010 10:56:03 PM
[Last Edit: 3/6/2010 10:56:29 PM by Gone_Shootin]
Originally Posted By cmjohnson: Here's a huge tone tip: STEREO RIG. I (finally) had my Mesa/boogie SOB (first "reissue" of the Mark 1) rebuilt and restored to service. It features a fully buffered all tube effects loop now, too. Though it's not the high gain modern rock monster that I like to play, it has the virtue of having a power amp section that is identical to the power amp section of my main, fully custom made amplifier. Same exact output transformer, almost identical plate voltages and bias levels, pretty much the same amp from the effects loop on through to the speaker output. So it's a perfect satellite amp for running with my main rig in stereo. Even the speaker cabs are matched. (Single 12s of the same cabinet design, with EVM-12Ls) I just got to play with both rigs together in stereo last night, and I think my brain is smoking. an entirely new level. What few tonal differences there are between the two amps were able to mostly be massaged out of them by judicious tweaking of the 1/3 octave EQ. Each amp has its own EQ channel. I can't wait to try it out at a time when I can crank it up without (much) fear of complaining neighbors. In my neighborhood, most people work during the day, and those that don't are elderly and pretty deaf, so I can get away with it on the next weekday I take off. Stereo MORE than doubles the fun factor. CJ Originally
Posted By Red_Label: Definitely hard to beat a stereo rig for a big, fat, loud sound. P.S. My daily practice rig is a Vox Tonelab LE floorboard running stereo into a Rocktron Velocity 300 power amp, into these same Marshall 1960 cabs. The Traynor tube heads are just too loud to sound good at such low volumes. Love the tone on the Vox! But yeah... I'm spoiled now. Can't even get into practice without running into both 4X12 cabs. I've rid myself of my combos. http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/walkerj_bil/Gear0409.jpg Yep, stereo sounds awesome. But.... while having identical setups on both sides is fine, there is something about having different amps/speakers/cabinets running at the same time. There's something about mixing things up that, well, sounds better. This is also why I don't like to have a cabinet with identical speakers in it. |
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Posted: 3/29/2010 7:07:57 PM
This observation is painfully obvious, but I'll toss it out there.
Invest in good instrument cables. I had purchased some cheap cables on SameDayMusic not thinking there would be a difference, however they seem to add quite a of treble to the overall tone. When I use only my ErnieBall (I am assuming thats the brand name) I can get a "warmer" tone. I should have just purchased good cables to begin with. ![]() |
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Posted: 3/29/2010 7:37:34 PM
Originally Posted By -Wolverine-: This observation is painfully obvious, but I'll toss it out there. Invest in good instrument cables. I had purchased some cheap cables on SameDayMusic not thinking there would be a difference, however they seem to add quite a of treble to the overall tone. When I use only my ErnieBall (I am assuming thats the brand name) I can get a "warmer" tone. I should have just purchased good cables to begin with. ![]() But don't overdo it. George L's cable is good and not overpriced. Monster guitar cables ARE massively overpriced. Any cord built with Belden cable and Switchcraft connectors, properly terminated, is a good quality cable. It doesn't have to cost much. CJ |
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Posted: 4/10/2010 8:49:16 PM
Originally Posted By kap_x:
Somewhat similar to tekka's tip, when recording guitar (or really a wide array of instruments, for that matter, but it works particularly well with overdriven electric guitar), layer the same recorded riff by digitally duplicating it, and then having one of the copies start a few milliseconds after the first. The ears won't be able to really distinguish that they're not perfectly aligned, but it will make the tone of the guitar much thicker. This is called artifical double-tracking. Playing the same thing twice and overlaying them is also a great way to spruce up your songs, too, since we can never play the exact same way. This is called double-tracking. |
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Posted: 4/10/2010 11:55:30 PM
It's for that reason that I like to use a delay set to a VERY short delay time, and minimal feedback/regeneration.
If you set it up right, it'll even do a good job of emulating cabinet resonance and can put an already thick tone over the top, well into massive territory. CJ |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 4:47:50 AM
telecaster + jcm800
that is all |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 7:19:43 AM
Here's my latest tone tip:
The Alesis DEQ230 digital programmable EQ. This model just went on closeout so I got one brand new in the sealed box for 129 dollars. I'd have preferred to get the midi-enabled DEQ230D version but for the price, I could not pass this up and I can get the D version later. Plus as I don't have a midi controller yet, it'd be a "future" feature for me anyway. There's an even fancier model, the DEQ830, and it provides EQ for up to 8 channels at a time instead of just two, but that's really overkill for my simple rig. One thing I can do with the 230 or any stereo EQ is use an A/B footswitch to switch two EQ curves without changing the EQ preset program. Just set each channel to a different curve. This is useful when switching from rhythm to lead voicing or clean to dirty voicing or whatever you want. I can not state this strongly enough: If you are not using an item such as this (a 1/3 octave equalizer) in your effects loop, and have taken the time to learn what it can do for your tone, then you are not getting the best possible tone that you could. CJ
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Posted: 11/13/2010 2:54:06 PM
How do I post music that I have on CD, or also in my ITunes?
I am a Dj and I've been spinning records since 1996. The largest croud I've ever played on stage in front of was over 9000 people in Antwerp, Belgium. It was amazing. I have played at several shows in NYC at the Rose Land Ballroom back in the day(until about 2006), also other Civic Center type venues and I was a resident Dj at AXIS and Avalon in Boston on Lansdowne St. back in the late 90's. I record to DAT in my home studio, then go to another studio and they remaster & burn my CD's for me. I've been doing this since 1996. Actually have my latest mix that I'd like to share but don't know how... Dj. Vertigo |
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Posted: 2/7/2011 9:58:31 PM
Im a rock guitar player and sing so here is my advice.
Ive found that for the places I play (bars and parties, and seems like never the same place twice in a row), that the more simple I keep my setup the better, I try and limit the amount of effects I use and dont use anything that is not easily adjustable. My rack gear is long gone and I dont miss it at all. The smaller the place Im playing, the smaller the rig I take. I have 15, 40 and 100 watt amps and different cabs I can pick from to suit the venue and stage size. My Marshall 4x12 may look Rock and Roll but it can be too much for a small venue even with the 15watt head on it. As has already been said, more mids and less gain if you want to cut through. If you can get him to do it, and I know its hard cause rock drummers tend to be high strung, get your drummer to try and play softer. The lower stage volume can really benefit your overall sound and ability to groove with each other. Those plastic ring thingys also work really nice for tone/volume. As far as singing, always have a bag of cough drops just in case, try and pick songs early in the set that wont strain you so you can warm up. And then theres the rule I broke last gig, watch your alcohol consumption. Everyone said it was our best show ever, wish I could remember more of it.
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