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Posted: 6/13/2017 5:31:06 PM EDT
Finally saw my childhood guitar hero (Yngwie) live, last Wednesday at the HoB in Vegas. He was having some technical difficulties and he and his tech were furiously working on things throughout the evening. I could tell that he was more than a little distracted by it all. But he was still amazing and it was so satisfying to be up against the barrier right in front of him after so many years of wanting to see him live. I'm from the sticks of Montana... so to see someone like Yngwie you have to escape flyover country for the big city.
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Posted: 6/13/2017 7:30:39 PM EDT
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I saw Ynwgie in 1989 at the Palace in Detroit with Dio. Great show I had no idea he was still touring. |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 9:25:47 PM EDT
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I saw Ynwgie in 1989 at the Palace in Detroit with Dio. Great show I had no idea he was still touring. 
Nice! Still in his prime back then. But he's still pretty damned good!
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Posted: 6/14/2017 7:41:43 AM EDT
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I caught him in Houston on Saturday. Had to drive 2 hours home after and be at work for 5am. It was worth it.
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Posted: 6/14/2017 8:37:43 AM EDT
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I caught him in Houston on Saturday. Had to drive 2 hours home after and be at work for 5am. It was worth it. I drove home 16 hours the day after, and it was worth it as well... especially since I got to oggle the rugged beauty of places like Mesquite, NV and St. George, UT. Love that drive! |
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Posted: 6/14/2017 1:19:20 PM EDT
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Nice! Are your ears still ringing? Lol
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Posted: 6/14/2017 2:07:44 PM EDT
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LOL...fake Marshall stacks.
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Posted: 6/14/2017 2:11:13 PM EDT
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Nice! Are your ears still ringing? Lol 
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Posted: 6/14/2017 2:12:13 PM EDT
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LOL...fake Marshall stacks. |
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Posted: 6/14/2017 9:49:17 PM EDT
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Not all. There are numerous threads on gear forums about what Yngwie tours with. He's far more likely to roll with the good stuff than most performers (outside of Bonamassa). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LOL...fake Marshall stacks.
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Posted: 6/14/2017 10:07:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/14/2017 10:09:03 PM EDT
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When/where was that pic taken? Also notice that I said "not all". I counted 7 that were powered on, on my side of the stage. |
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Posted: 6/14/2017 11:18:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/15/2017 12:26:54 AM EDT
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Lots of people post that pic in Yngwie threads. Can I let you in on a secret? It doesn't make the ones who do it look clever, or like they know something that no one else does. It makes them look like dipshits. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Lots of people post that pic in Yngwie threads. Can I let you in on a secret? It doesn't make the ones who do it look clever, or like they know something that no one else does. It makes them look like dipshits. |
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Posted: 6/16/2017 11:01:36 AM EDT
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Dude is/was/still awesome.
I first saw him in a small club outside of Pittsburgh Pa circa '83, I mean like 10 feet from him. The bands name was "STEELER"... 
Then he joined Alcatrazz,and saw them at the War Memorial in Oakland.PA near the Pitt Campus. Then I saw his next band "Rising Force"...! "Queen in Love" is still one of my favorites ! This was back when RATT,Dokken,Motley Crue and all the rest were touring. Then I saw QUEENSRYCHE !!! 
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Posted: 6/16/2017 11:12:17 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/16/2017 10:00:54 PM EDT
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So you are the big man for calling people names that repost a picture that someone else posted first in this thread. All performers do this fake stuff on stage. This is nothing new..sorry you got your feels hurt knowing your hero does it too. I just thought it was funny that someone got a picture of the backside of the amp props. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lots of people post that pic in Yngwie threads. Can I let you in on a secret? It doesn't make the ones who do it look clever, or like they know something that no one else does. It makes them look like dipshits. There is a difference, though, between a wisecrack and a serious claim. If one is serious about trying to school everyone on how Yngwie's Marshall stacks are fake, one is going to look like a dipshit, because they aren't fake. |
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Posted: 6/17/2017 10:30:56 AM EDT
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Lots of people post that pic in Yngwie threads. Can I let you in on a secret? It doesn't make the ones who do it look clever, or like they know something that no one else does. It makes them look like dipshits. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Lots of people post that pic in Yngwie threads. Can I let you in on a secret? It doesn't make the ones who do it look clever, or like they know something that no one else does. It makes them look like dipshits. |
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Posted: 6/17/2017 10:44:00 AM EDT
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Who gives a fuck about fake amps? It's showbiz.
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Posted: 6/17/2017 12:08:45 PM EDT
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Who gives a fuck about fake amps? It's showbiz.
(I didn't think my little jab would get so much traction.  )
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Posted: 6/17/2017 1:35:27 PM EDT
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I'll let you in on a little secret. I know that's not Yngwie. Red Label knows it's not Yngwie. RL saw my smilly and moved on to the substance of my post. Here's another little secret you don't run four heads into two cabs. Redundancy is great but that level of redundancy is for show. Notice how many of those cabs are miced up i.e. what everyone gets to listen to through the house sound system... One. So anyone past row 30 gets to hear the output of one speaker run off one amp. From a set-up standpoint balancing that many amps with vocals, drums, and bass would be a nightmare for a sound technician. For these reasons I'm pretty sure 95% of the those cabs are for show and not for sound. If I was the roady I'd insist they were empty shells to remove about 80 lbs of speakers per cab and 15-20 lbs per head. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lots of people post that pic in Yngwie threads. Can I let you in on a secret? It doesn't make the ones who do it look clever, or like they know something that no one else does. It makes them look like dipshits. In the case of Yngwie's show, they unload a bunch of real Marshall stacks, regardless of whether said stacks are going to be making sound during the show or not. The fact that not all of the amps and cabs are passing audio does not make them fake, i.e. either a plywood facade dressed up to look like real backline, or genuine Marshall heads and cabs that have been gutted. As to the who cares if they're real or not, well, a lot of people care, because this is where the conversation goes every time someone posts a picture of Yngwie's stage. It isn't my doing. But I am compelled to respond when people start posting falsehoods. The rig the OP saw was in Dallas two days later, and I know I what I speak. |
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Posted: 6/17/2017 9:05:43 PM EDT
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We're talking about a man who keeps tons of guitars in a pile in his home. He has vintage Fenders that people lust over scalloped for him. I wouldn't put it past him to want roadies loading and unloading the real thing night after night. If I could play like him, I'd do whatever I wanted too.
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Posted: 6/18/2017 7:29:33 AM EDT
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Ive seen Yngwie 6 or 7 times. Last time I saw him I went back stage with my BIL who was working security. His amps are all real, all plugged in and all on. That pic has been around fir a long time abd it isn't even Yngwie.
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Posted: 6/18/2017 9:09:06 AM EDT
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Also, ACDC and every other 80s band that's toured with a wall of Marshalls has used the same fake shit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When/where was that pic taken? Also notice that I said "not all". I counted 7 that were powered on, on my side of the stage. |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 8:43:14 AM EDT
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I did a guitar clinic thing with Ric Emmet. He said all of his wall of Marshalls were real, but only one was being used. |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 10:39:08 AM EDT
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Ive seen Yngwie 6 or 7 times. Last time I saw him I went back stage with my BIL who was working security. His amps are all real, all plugged in and all on. That pic has been around fir a long time abd it isn't even Yngwie. |
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Posted: 7/20/2017 6:12:26 PM EDT
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I'll let you in on a little secret. I know that's not Yngwie. Red Label knows it's not Yngwie. RL saw my smilly and moved on to the substance of my post. Here's another little secret you don't run four heads into two cabs. Redundancy is great but that level of redundancy is for show. Notice how many of those cabs are miced up i.e. what everyone gets to listen to through the house sound system... One. So anyone past row 30 gets to hear the output of one speaker run off one amp. From a set-up standpoint balancing that many amps with vocals, drums, and bass would be a nightmare for a sound technician. For these reasons I'm pretty sure 95% of the those cabs are for show and not for sound. If I was the roady I'd insist they were empty shells to remove about 80 lbs of speakers per cab and 15-20 lbs per head. |
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Posted: 7/20/2017 6:52:41 PM EDT
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Actually, one driver out of the 4 in that one cabinet - and that's IF the mike isn't just for show .... |
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Posted: 7/21/2017 3:36:48 PM EDT
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The guitar amp microphone is not for show. There are more reasons than one to mic a guitar amp. Someone might want guitar in his monitor.
Guitar can be in the mains and in a monitor without ever going into an amplifier or speaker. Do it all the time. |
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Posted: 7/21/2017 5:55:55 PM EDT
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Everyone who is in a band and has run sound raise your hand ....
Guitar can be in the mains and in a monitor without ever going into an amplifier or speaker. Do it all the time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The guitar amp microphone is not for show. There are more reasons than one to mic a guitar amp. Someone might want guitar in his monitor.
Guitar can be in the mains and in a monitor without ever going into an amplifier or speaker. Do it all the time. I'm honestly not sure of the point you're trying to make. Yngwie is not running his guitar direct, if that's what you're suggesting. |
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Posted: 7/21/2017 6:50:15 PM EDT
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Everyone who is in a band and has run sound raise your hand ....
Guitar can be in the mains and in a monitor without ever going into an amplifier or speaker. Do it all the time. I've played stages since 1985. And I've run sound plenty as well. One wall of my man cave is a wall of PA gear, including my 24 channel board. Some people here and elsewhere seem very unfamiliar with the man, the myth, the legend... who is Yngwie Malmsteen. I was obsessed with his playing throughout the last half of the 80s, and into the 90s. He doesn't do shit the way other artists do it. He's always been over-the-top and 100% YNGWIE. He doesn't plug into a Rockman and go direct to get his sound. He plugs a Strat into some FX and into live Marshalls. That's his schtick. He's not Def Leppard doing "Hysteria". He's not practical and he doesn't give a shit how other people do things. I stood at the barrier in front of him all night and I can assure you that I was getting a face full of his tone, straight out of the cabs. The wife and I were glad that we had brought plugs, and we brought enough to hand-out to others. I couldn't hear the bass and I could barely hear the vocals. But that's okay, because I didn't go to get a perfect, studio quality mix. I went to see him to get a face full of "Yngwie Fucking Malmsteen"!
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Posted: 7/21/2017 7:46:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/21/2017 8:57:08 PM EDT
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Wait... WTF? I've played stages since 1985. And I've run sound plenty as well. One wall of my man cave is a wall of PA gear, including my 24 channel board. Some people here and elsewhere seem very unfamiliar with the man, the myth, the legend... who is Yngwie Malmsteen. I was obsessed with his playing throughout the last half of the 80s, and into the 90s. He doesn't do shit the way other artists do it. He's always been over-the-top and 100% YNGWIE. He doesn't plug into a Rockman and go direct to get his sound. He plugs a Strat into some FX and into live Marshalls. That's his schtick. He's not Def Leppard doing "Hysteria". He's not practical and he doesn't give a shit how other people do things. I stood at the barrier in front of him all night and I can assure you that I was getting a face full of his tone, straight out of the cabs. The wife and I were glad that we had brought plugs, and we brought enough to hand-out to others. I couldn't hear the bass and I could barely hear the vocals. But that's okay, because I didn't go to get a perfect, studio quality mix. I went to see him to get a face full of "Yngwie Fucking Malmsteen"! |
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Posted: 7/23/2017 1:42:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/23/2017 2:14:01 AM EDT
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I will run sound for at least 20 bands this week. I'm honestly not sure of the point you're trying to make. Yngwie is not running his guitar direct, if that's what you're suggesting. |
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Posted: 7/23/2017 6:45:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryVery cool. I've got an Yngwie strat and it would be nice to get the YJM100. Have wanted one for a while, but just has never come together yet. Pretty happy with my Friedman BE100 and Splawn Quickrod halfstacks at the moment.
Have also wanted a 1959RR for years as well. A white halfstack specifically. But then I'll have to have a white LP Custom too.
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Posted: 7/23/2017 8:51:04 PM EDT
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https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8579/29975338520_6f91b287e4_o.jpgWall Of Sound by FredMan, on Flickr |
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Posted: 7/23/2017 9:33:28 PM EDT
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I'll take your word for it. Just suggesting it is not only possible, but not uncommon, to run direct and fake the wall of amps. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I will run sound for at least 20 bands this week. I'm honestly not sure of the point you're trying to make. Yngwie is not running his guitar direct, if that's what you're suggesting. Right there with you on the direct thing, I've also seen guys going direct by running tube heads into specialized DI boxes that provide a load for the amp and an XLR out. Pretty cool, especially if you want the sound of your tube head and just want to listen with IEMs 
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Posted: 7/25/2017 1:19:21 PM EDT
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All good, man. It's nothing I've seen with my own eyes, but I have reached out to a couple of guys who have done his shows and asked them. Right there with you on the direct thing, I've also seen guys going direct by running tube heads into specialized DI boxes that provide a load for the amp and an XLR out. Pretty cool, especially if you want the sound of your tube head and just want to listen with IEMs |
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Posted: 7/25/2017 2:17:20 PM EDT
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LOL...fake Marshall stacks. |
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Posted: 7/25/2017 6:34:42 PM EDT
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I'm working with a guy using a Line 6 Helix. Modeling has gotten a lot better, and a lot more tunable. You can even adjust bias, bias excursion, rectifier sag, etc. in the tube amp models. |
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Posted: 7/25/2017 6:50:57 PM EDT
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I'm working with a guy using a Line 6 Helix. Modeling has gotten a lot better, and a lot more tunable. You can even adjust bias, bias excursion, rectifier sag, etc. in the tube amp models. 
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Posted: 7/25/2017 6:53:01 PM EDT
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Yup. Probably a miked half stack back stage. |
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