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Posted: 5/22/2014 9:10:39 AM EDT
Hole. Lee. Sheit.

You guys can pull some fucking ridiculous moves.

Alan Cassidy of The Black Dahlia Murder:























































Jon Rice of Job for a Cowboy:
































































Hector "Leche" De Santiago of As Blood Runs Black:
































Ken Bedene of Aborted:
































And my personal favorite, even though he doesn't necessarily do anything as fancy and ridiculous compared to the other guys would be:

Chris Adler of Lamb of God:













































I'll stick to my four strings, thanks.
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 11:20:01 AM EDT
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How do you forget to post videos by Derek Roddy and George Kollias????

Link Posted: 5/22/2014 11:38:22 AM EDT
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I don't see any vids

 
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 11:47:40 AM EDT
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Not from band's I've ever listened too very much of



Are the videos not showing up? I tried to make all the videos in a line, since it stacks them in some odd fucked up way, but I dont think that would cause an issue.
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 11:57:36 AM EDT
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How do you forget to post videos by Derek Roddy and George Kollias????

I don't see any vids  


Me neither.

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Link Posted: 5/22/2014 12:43:08 PM EDT
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Fix't finally.

I sort of forgot that it doesn't like https, only http, when it comes to youtube embeds



Holy shit there's some brutality going on in that video, MadMike
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 6:32:06 PM EDT
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Fix't finally.

I sort of forgot that it doesn't like https, only http, when it comes to youtube embeds



Holy shit there's some brutality going on in that video, MadMike
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Derek is the king.

Check out his work on Nile's Black Seeds of Vengeance and Hate Eternal's I Monarch.
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 6:34:20 PM EDT
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I've posted this before, but this is video of Derek tracking in the studio.  This is why they call him "One Take" Roddy.  

Link Posted: 5/22/2014 6:41:50 PM EDT
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John Longstreth is also on another level speed and precision wise.

Link Posted: 5/22/2014 6:49:13 PM EDT
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And the legend, George Kollias.

Link Posted: 5/22/2014 7:00:53 PM EDT
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Some talentless no-name jagoff who hangs around here.



Link Posted: 5/22/2014 8:05:15 PM EDT
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That gravity blast sounds like pure chaos, hahaha

I don't know how you guys pull off that sort of shit man, I'm glad I'm a bassist.
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 8:35:41 PM EDT
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Not to rain on anyone's parade here OP...but the last band I played in..we had a drummer that

was near 60 years old that could kick this guys butt.and sing.

 
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Not to rain on anyone's parade here OP...but the last band I played in..we had a drummer thatwas near 60 years old that could kick this guys butt.and sing.
 
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Oh I don't doubt you by any means! I'm sure there are a lot of great and better drummers than those I listed, those are just a few of the stand-outs of the bands I listen to


Link Posted: 6/8/2014 10:34:33 AM EDT
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Musicians have to be good, because the singing and lyrics are laughable.
Link Posted: 6/9/2014 6:22:16 AM EDT
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Woah, hold on with that nonsense for a minute there!

I'll concede that it's not the easiest thing to listen to as an outsider, but metal vocals take some serious talent to actually be good at, and the quality and topic of lyrical content ranges vastly just as it does in any other genre.
Link Posted: 6/9/2014 9:31:03 AM EDT
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Woah, hold on with that nonsense for a minute there!

I'll concede that it's not the easiest thing to listen to as an outsider, but metal vocals take some serious talent to actually be good at, and the quality and topic of lyrical content ranges vastly just as it does in any other genre.
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Woah, hold on with that nonsense for a minute there!

I'll concede that it's not the easiest thing to listen to as an outsider, but metal vocals take some serious talent to actually be good at, and the quality and topic of lyrical content ranges vastly just as it does in any other genre.


Exactly.  I hear so many people jone on it as "just a bunch of yelling" but try and do it...it is insanely hard to do with volume, consistently for the length of a performance or recording, and SAFELY.  Sure you might be able to belt out a song, but if you can't talk for the rest of the day, let alone crank out another one, then yeah you kinda can't do it.

Same thing with the lyrics.  There are several bands and subgenres that have very well thought out lyrics.  But yeah, the average Beatles song lyrics are soooooo much less laughable  (And I say that as a huge Beatles fan.)



Uber-genius John Lennon

I am he as you are he as you are me
And we are all together
See how they run like pigs from a gun
See how they fly, I'm crying

Sitting on a cornflake
Waiting for the van to come
Corporation T-shirt, stupid bloody Tuesday
Man you've been a naughty boy
You let your face grow long

I am the eggman
They are the eggmen
I am the walrus
Goo goo g' joob

Mr. City policeman sitting
Pretty little policemen in a row
See how they fly like Lucy in the sky
See how they run, I'm crying

I'm crying, I'm crying, I'm crying

Yellow matter custard
Dripping from a dead dog's eye
Crabalocker fishwife
Pornographic priestess
Boy, you've been a naughty girl
You let your knickers down

I am the eggman
They are the eggmen
I am the walrus
Goo goo g' joob

Sitting in an English garden
Waiting for the sun
If the sun don't come you get a tan
From standing in the English rain

I am the eggman
They are the eggmen
I am the walrus
Goo goo g' joob
G-goo goo g' joob

Expert, texpert choking smokers
Don't you think the joker laughs at you?
(Ha ha ha! He he he! Ha ha ha!)
See how they smile like pigs in a sty
See how they snide, I'm crying

Semolina pilchard climbing up the Eiffel tower
Elementary penguin singing Hare Krishna
Man, you should have seen them kicking
Edgar Allan Poe

I am the eggman
They are the eggmen
I am the walrus
Goo goo g' joob
G-goo goo g' joob
Goo goo g' goo
G-goo goo g' joob goo

Juba juba juba
Juba juba juba
Juba juba, juba juba
Juba juba



Read more: Beatles - I Am The Walrus Lyrics | MetroLyrics
Link Posted: 6/9/2014 5:41:31 PM EDT
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Woah, hold on with that nonsense for a minute there!

I'll concede that it's not the easiest thing to listen to as an outsider, but metal vocals take some serious talent to actually be good at, and the quality and topic of lyrical content ranges vastly just as it does in any other genre.
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Woah, hold on with that nonsense for a minute there!

I'll concede that it's not the easiest thing to listen to as an outsider, but metal vocals take some serious talent to actually be good at, and the quality and topic of lyrical content ranges vastly just as it does in any other genre.


I am not saying it's easy. I just think it sounds dumb as shit, and I played in a metal band in high school (6-7 years ago.) I am at the point now where I love metal for the insane musical skills in it, and I just can't listen to some kid scream his head off like job for a cowboy. It sounds ridiculous. I like my vocals more like dream theater or old nightwish, even children of Bodom I like. Screaming can  work, but it's gotta be tension and release, like opeth, all that remains, KSE, BFMV, etc.
Link Posted: 6/10/2014 7:03:04 AM EDT
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I am not saying it's easy. I just think it sounds dumb as shit, and I played in a metal band in high school (6-7 years ago.) I am at the point now where I love metal for the insane musical skills in it, and I just can't listen to some kid scream his head off like job for a cowboy. It sounds ridiculous. I like my vocals more like dream theater or old nightwish, even children of Bodom I like. Screaming can  work, but it's gotta be tension and release, like opeth, all that remains, KSE, BFMV, etc.
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I gotcha, just the way "laughable" came across a bit differently than intended it seems.

Different strokes for different folks I guess. With the exception of Opeth (Simply because I've never listened to them) I'm not much a fan of any of them with the exception of a few songs here and there.
Link Posted: 6/12/2014 12:39:07 PM EDT
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I can't say metal drummers suck, they are usually the most talented member in any given metal band but metal is the musical equivalent to sticking your head under a zero turn lawn mower.
Link Posted: 6/13/2014 6:08:15 AM EDT
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It's sort of meant to be
Link Posted: 6/13/2014 6:16:32 AM EDT
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Aaron Kitcher - Infant Ahnihilator

Link Posted: 6/13/2014 9:18:46 AM EDT
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How the fuck could I forget Danny Carey?

One of my all-time favorite bands and drummer. I consider TOOL to be progressive metal, but I know some people see it differently, but none-the-less it's going into this thread.

Link Posted: 6/14/2014 5:26:36 AM EDT
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Ben Harclerode From Whitechapel always impresses me:https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=yurq37gtzmg
Link Posted: 6/14/2014 3:27:38 PM EDT
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I'm a big fan of Darren Cesca's work on Arsis's We Are The Nightmare

The track is Failing Winds of Hopeless Greed


Link Posted: 6/15/2014 11:05:45 AM EDT
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The drumming of Marshall Wieczorek from Wretched has always caught my ear pretty well.

Their new album is fucking sick.

Any reason behind the tape on the bottom of the cymbals? I understand using shit to dampen the tone of drums when recording, but I've never see anything like that on cymbals



Link Posted: 6/16/2014 6:59:09 PM EDT
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The drumming of Marshall Wieczorek from Wretched has always caught my ear pretty well.

Their new album is fucking sick.

Any reason behind the tape on the bottom of the cymbals? I understand using shit to dampen the tone of drums when recording, but I've never see anything like that on cymbals

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPSyzdJwV8g

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He probably just wants immediate decay instead of the cymbals rininging out a lot.  I put a moongel on my ride for that reason.  Wouldn't feel the need to do it on anything else.  His cymbals are pretty much nonexistent in that mix IMO.
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He probably just wants immediate decay instead of the cymbals rininging out a lot.  I put a moongel on my ride for that reason.  Wouldn't feel the need to do it on anything else.  His cymbals are pretty much nonexistent in that mix IMO.
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The drumming of Marshall Wieczorek from Wretched has always caught my ear pretty well.

Their new album is fucking sick.

Any reason behind the tape on the bottom of the cymbals? I understand using shit to dampen the tone of drums when recording, but I've never see anything like that on cymbals

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPSyzdJwV8g



He probably just wants immediate decay instead of the cymbals rininging out a lot.  I put a moongel on my ride for that reason.  Wouldn't feel the need to do it on anything else.  His cymbals are pretty much nonexistent in that mix IMO.

I guess that makes sense. Seems odd to want so many of your cymbals to decay that quickly, but different strokes for different folks. I guess it probably helps clear up a bit of noise in the higher frequencies
Link Posted: 6/25/2014 1:11:57 PM EDT
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The drumming of Marshall Wieczorek from Wretched has always caught my ear pretty well.

Their new album is fucking sick.

Any reason behind the tape on the bottom of the cymbals? I understand using shit to dampen the tone of drums when recording, but I've never see anything like that on cymbals

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPSyzdJwV8g

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Wow, I like everything about that.

Too many bands are all speed and don't seem to have a clue about balls and chunk (groove) except for a few seconds of "breakdown" per song.

As for Kollias, he was a huge inspiration for me on double bass, but everything he does (in Nile at least) is extremely basic drumming just played really fast. Then there is the other extreme, players who are super technical but at the expense of any kind of punch and groove at all. This guy Wieczorek (and the band as a whole) manage to do it all really well.




Link Posted: 6/25/2014 1:13:21 PM EDT
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Chris Adler, while not having the flair of some of the more flamboyant drummers, really knows exactly what is needed for each song. And nobody can throw in a fill like Adler. He's one of my favorites.
Link Posted: 6/25/2014 1:17:15 PM EDT
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And then for technical prowess, I've always found the drummers for the complex math metal bands to be mind boggling. I can't even count out what they're playing, and there they are firing on all cylinders.

Matt Garstka is a great example. Check out his work with Animals as Leaders.
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How the fuck could I forget Danny Carey?

One of my all-time favorite bands and drummer. I consider TOOL to be progressive metal, but I know some people see it differently, but none-the-less it's going into this thread.

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As a classically trained drummer of 15 years, they all have impressive speed, but none of the impress me. Danny Carey doesn't have the chops some of these guys have, but Danny impresses me. There are very few drummers that make me go back to re-listen to what he just played to try and figure it out.
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Chris Adler, while not having the flair of some of the more flamboyant drummers, really knows exactly what is needed for each song. And nobody can throw in a fill like Adler. He's one of my favorites.
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Chris Adler, while not having the flair of some of the more flamboyant drummers, really knows exactly what is needed for each song. And nobody can throw in a fill like Adler. He's one of my favorites.

I fucking love Chris Adler simply because he plays shit that works perfectly for the songs. He's not flashy, but fuck does he play some entertaining music.

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As a classically trained drummer of 15 years, they all have impressive speed, but none of the impress me. Danny Carey doesn't have the chops some of these guys have, but Danny impresses me. There are very few drummers that make me go back to re-listen to what he just played to try and figure it out.

I'm just a bassist and a lay-man, I dont know shit about drumming really so what's impressive in a "classical" sense is lost on me

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As a classically trained drummer of 15 years, they all have impressive speed, but none of the impress me. Danny Carey doesn't have the chops some of these guys have, but Danny impresses me. There are very few drummers that make me go back to re-listen to what he just played to try and figure it out.
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I'd love to know what you think that means.  Trained to play classical music?  Took lessons?  Trained as a jazz drummer?  Went to a music school?
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I'd love to know what you think that means.  
Trained to play classical music?  Took lessons?  Trained as a jazz drummer?  Went to a music school?
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As a classically trained drummer of 15 years, they all have impressive speed, but none of the impress me. Danny Carey doesn't have the chops some of these guys have, but Danny impresses me. There are very few drummers that make me go back to re-listen to what he just played to try and figure it out.


I'd love to know what you think that means.  
Trained to play classical music?  Took lessons?  Trained as a jazz drummer?  Went to a music school?


I am sure you're going to tell him what it means.
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I am sure you're going to tell him what it means.
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As a classically trained drummer of 15 years, they all have impressive speed, but none of the impress me. Danny Carey doesn't have the chops some of these guys have, but Danny impresses me. There are very few drummers that make me go back to re-listen to what he just played to try and figure it out.


I'd love to know what you think that means.  
Trained to play classical music?  Took lessons?  Trained as a jazz drummer?  Went to a music school?


I am sure you're going to tell him what it means.


It doesnt really have set meaning for drummers, it just usually ends up being something one says to make it appear that you are elite before you crap on what someone else does.
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It doesnt really have set meaning for drummers, it just usually ends up being something one says to make it appear that you are elite before you crap on what someone else does.
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As a classically trained drummer of 15 years, they all have impressive speed, but none of the impress me. Danny Carey doesn't have the chops some of these guys have, but Danny impresses me. There are very few drummers that make me go back to re-listen to what he just played to try and figure it out.


I'd love to know what you think that means.  
Trained to play classical music?  Took lessons?  Trained as a jazz drummer?  Went to a music school?


I am sure you're going to tell him what it means.


It doesnt really have set meaning for drummers, it just usually ends up being something one says to make it appear that you are elite before you crap on what someone else does.


Could mean he was trained as a symphonic percusionist.   Or... maybe he has studied with such notable percussion instructors as: Gary Chaffee, Gary Chester, Ed Uribe, Ed Kaspik, and John Ramsey.

Or it could be what you said.

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Me neither.

Let me rescue this thread:

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How do you forget to post videos by Derek Roddy and George Kollias????

I don't see any vids  


Me neither.

Let me rescue this thread:

http://youtu.be/npupiwUiTp0


Ahh...my buddy Derek...this video was a few months ago at Semimole Music here in the Tampa area. I've know Derek since he worked at Mars Music Ft. Lauderdale...LOL...super super nice guy.
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Me neither.

Let me rescue this thread:

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How do you forget to post videos by Derek Roddy and George Kollias????

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Me neither.

Let me rescue this thread:

http://youtu.be/npupiwUiTp0


Ahh...my buddy Derek...this video was a few months ago at Semimole Music here in the Tampa area. I've know Derek since he worked at Mars Music Ft. Lauderdale...LOL...super super nice guy.
Link Posted: 7/11/2014 8:15:13 PM EDT
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Check out Romain Goulon from Necrophagist.  "Event Horizion" is impressive
Link Posted: 7/12/2014 7:09:56 PM EDT
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I dont know that this guy does anything special in particular, but his drumming interests me none-the-less.


Philippe Boucher of Beyond Creation

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