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Posted: 3/22/2017 4:16:55 PM EDT
For clarification, I mean that you had something go wrong or did something stupid that put your aircraft down somewhere you didn't initially intend to. Landing a medical helicopter or a bush plane out in the field doesn't count. Likewise, if you lost control at an airport and crashed or ventured off the runway, it did. Poll inbound.
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[#2]
Almost, but no.
I was in the Army, on our way from Central America to North Carolina on a C141. Along the way two engines failed. Air Force tells us, "at the first sign of trouble with another engine, we need to lose a lot of weight (You Guys)". We where going to jump when we got to NC, so we had parachutes. We got our gear on, and listened for the emergency bail out alarm, it never came. So, not only did we not get to bail out into who knows where, but, when we did get home we didn't even get to jump because they wanted to get the plane on the ground fast as possible. I realize now that this is actually the complete opposite of what OP asked for sorry. L |
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[#5]
Do rotor blades through trees and lots of holes in a helicopter count?
Also please more accurately define the term "crash". |
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[#6]
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Do rotor blades through trees and lots of holes in a helicopter count? Also please more accurately define the term "crash". View Quote Incident involving putting the airplane down in a controlled or uncontrolled manner somewhere that either resulted in damage to the airplane or from conditions that merited immediate termination of the flight. Engine quits at 8000 ft and you glide to an airport with no damage to the airplane, that counts. Attempting to land and you ground loop, that counts too. Diverting due to weather or low fuel doesn't count; landing on a road due to low fuel or weather, that counts unless you're in Alaska and it's SOP. |
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[#7]
What about touching the ground with parts that are not supposed to touch the ground and you keep flying?
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[#8]
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What about touching the ground with parts that are not supposed to touch the ground and you keep flying? View Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgdSflSCTQM |
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[#9]
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You mean like this? I'll count that in, but you better post a story to go along with it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgdSflSCTQM View Quote |
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[#10]
Arecibo Airport, Arecibo, Puerto Rico. Jump master was Harry O'Connor. Years later he would go on to be famous in the jump world.
I dropped out of the sky from 1500ft straight into the wing of a beautiful Piper twin engine Comanche. I was able to run atop one wing hop/dragged over the fuselage drop on the other wing then was dragged/jumped down to the tarmac to complete my PLF. I was hanging under a T10 chute so steering wasn't an option. Technically I did crash into the plane and that's not were I was supposed to land. |
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[#11]
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Not sure how he kept the props off the pavement. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You mean like this? I'll count that in, but you better post a story to go along with it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgdSflSCTQM Eta: here it is... Attached File |
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[#14]
I've had four incidents that required immediate unplanned landings. Only one where I thought that making a runway was in question. One of those was a medical emergency. Several more incidents where I landed with fewer engines running on landing than when I took off. Incidentally every engine failure I've ever had has been in a twin (freight dogging for the win.) A very near engine failure in a PC-12 was one of my immediate unscheduled stops and my only serious engine mechanical failure with a turbine in flight. Also my closest call in ice was at 0400 in a PC-12 after a nearly 24 hour day.
Recently a buddy of mine parked a 210 on a road in some of the least hospitable places to land a plane after the engine grenaded. Even the NTSB said he was impressed. |
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[#15]
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Had a connecting rod come apart in a Cessna and had to set her down on the beach. Luckily it was a cold day (for Florida) and the beach was empty or it would have been the water instead. http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m163/aramp1/Flying/Beach%20Landing_zpsmybnsddy.jpg http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m163/aramp1/Flying/Engine%20Failure_zpsxwpphk16.jpeg View Quote |
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[#16]
My two major engine failures resulted in making it back to the runway, one was just barely.
I did, however, bury two UAVs while I was in Afghanistan. One ended up in an Afghan Colonel's back yard instead of the wadi. |
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[#17]
Declared and diverted for equipment failure (vacuum failed/panel lights failed) in IMC at night. The only mechanical problem that necessitated an early return was a fuel selector valve that began leaking when the student switched tanks.
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[#19]
Had to return to the departure airport after the cabin failed to pressurize on a CJ3. Unfortunately had a full load of pax and lots of fuel, so had to circle for 30 mins to get down to landing weight. Had a newborn on board, so was very glad I caught it early (before the masks dropped and mass panic ensued) and was able to descend at a slow rate to protect ears.
Lost cabin pressure after maintenance in another Citation Jet, wound up with the mask in my hand before I realized I'd even reached for it, haha. A few other issues here and there, but nothing dramatic that required off-airport landing. |
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[#20]
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Had a connecting rod come apart in a Cessna and had to set her down on the beach. Luckily it was a cold day (for Florida) and the beach was empty or it would have been the water instead. http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m163/aramp1/Flying/Beach%20Landing_zpsmybnsddy.jpg http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m163/aramp1/Flying/Engine%20Failure_zpsxwpphk16.jpeg View Quote Seriously though, wow. Ive never seen an engine fail that bad. |
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[#21]
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Had a connecting rod come apart in a Cessna and had to set her down on the beach. Luckily it was a cold day (for Florida) and the beach was empty or it would have been the water instead. http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m163/aramp1/Flying/Beach%20Landing_zpsmybnsddy.jpg http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m163/aramp1/Flying/Engine%20Failure_zpsxwpphk16.jpeg View Quote Nice job in that sand BTW. |
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[#22]
Mu uncle crashed into the North Sea in 1943 ... does that count?
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[#24]
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Did you ever find the rest of the connecting rod? Seriously though, wow. Ive never seen an engine fail that bad. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Did you ever find the rest of the connecting rod? Seriously though, wow. Ive never seen an engine fail that bad. Quoted:
You're lucky they didn't lock you up for landing out there on that beach. They can be a little....picky Nice job in that sand BTW. |
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[#25]
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LOL. I think there were chunks of metal scattered all along the beach. There were several pieces and chunks that weren't found. The county was the first LE on the scene. They were straight up dicks. Well, the old crusty sgt was a dick. The younger partner was okay. They really were hostile with me for "tampering with their crime scene" ie retrieving my pilot's license from inside the cockpit when talking to the FAA. After the park ranger got there and took over the sheriff dept left and things were cool. When the FAA finally got there, they were awesome too. The investigator complemented me on my landing. I told her I've had much worse. View Quote 1st time was when we pulled my mentor dead out of his 150. The inspector talked shit about him for 20 minutes as he was laying next to us under a sheet. 2nd time I was the first week on the job with my employer and another crew had a mechanical issue that caused them to depart the runway. I got a rash of shit from the inspectors for policies and practices I knew nothing about. |
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[#26]
My dad had one in a cub in 1946 , I work as a kid for a guy who had 3 2 in experimental planes and 1 in a gyrocopter . I have been lucky in my limited world
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[#28]
<---Never in mine, but...
...I've flown many Aero Commanders across all models, in various states of restoration or (dis)repair and had hydraulic failures, electrical failures, engine failures and all were non-events. I did have one hydraulic failure that resulted in a nose gear collapse at about 5kts, at the conclusion of my roll-out. It just went "ka-chunk" and sat. Bent one gear door and scratched the paint on it. I think we spent about 3 hours repairing it and off we went. I also had the same indication (hyd. failure followed by no green light for the nose gear) at Oakland, and when I told the tower, they rolled all the trucks. The nose wheel turned out to be locked, but I got a nice welcome from all the guys in their trucks with the spinny lights, lining the runway . /TCP |
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[#30]
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This was mine. It was post maintenance. Engine quit on takeoff at 200ft due to FOD going through the #4 cylinder. Really glad I declined the intersection departure that day. I wrote the plane off in my head immediately, pulled power in case it decided to come back to life, stood on the rudder, threw the gear down to help slow down and ended up not bending any metal. The Mooney did well off-road. I took the pics with my iPhone so the depth of field may be a bit misleading. The field was a terraced run-off field and I bet I was within 40 yards of the neighborhood when I finally stopped. My reason for the thread was that I'm curious how often things happen that you just never hear about because the news doesn't catch it and metal doesn't bend. In other words, how much riskier is night/single-engine IFR/wet feet flying? http://www.usfbs.com/UserData/a555/Images/201703240444038790.jpg http://www.usfbs.com/UserData/a555/Images/20170324044403.jpg http://www.usfbs.com/UserData/a555/Images/20170324044402.jpg View Quote |
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[#31]
Landed in between parallel runways. A weird crosswind likely from a microburst sent us into the dirt area. We were landing when the sudden crosswind hit. Had already pulled back power and were about 6 feet from the ground. It was an instant hard push to the left and we were then dropped into the ditch area.
Rode it out and back onto a taxiway. Just went along like nothing happened. ATC didn't even make a peep about it. My underwear was a different story |
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[#32]
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My two major engine failures resulted in making it back to the runway, one was just barely. I did, however, bury two UAVs while I was in Afghanistan. One ended up in an Afghan Colonel's back yard instead of the wadi. View Quote |
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[#33]
Myself no, but five of my friends that ALL were much older, very experienced Pilots crashed and only one died as a result....kinda made me think there are only two kinds of small airplanes: those that have crashed and those that haven't yet.
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[#34]
Engine swap in exhaust valve, landed safely at an unintended destination. Also lost a Magneto another time and lost all my electrical well I was trying to figure it out. Landed at the nearest airport, not the one I meant to
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[#35]
I copied and pasted this from an archived thread, but it's my one "off airport landing" story.
I had to look it up in my logbook, February of 1987. It was my second hour of multi-engine dual, in a Beech Duthcess. We were up in the practice area near Baraboo, I was flying simulated instrument under the hood. My instructor shut the fuel off to one of the engines, to simulate an engine failure. I did the emergency drill, and feathered the prop. When we did the restart checklist, the prop unfeathered, but the engine didn't restart. For a bunch of reasons, my instructor believed the engine was making partial power, even thigh it was still inoperative. The item of highest drag on a multi-engine airplane is a windmilling propellor. We turned back towards Madison, and he called our "company" (long since out of business, used to be the big, blue hangar on the south ramp) and the boss told him to be sure and get the plane back home. At that point, the die was cast for the rest of the days events. The airplane would not maintain altitude on the good engine, with the prop windmilling, so we were in a gentle descent the whole way back. We made it to about six miles form the Madison airport when we realized we were never going to make the runway. We landed with the gear down, in a frozen, plowed field. The airplane stayed upright, but the prop on the operating engine got the tips bent when it hit a mound of silage. They flew it out of the field, and back to MSN that day. My instructor got what was called a "709 ride" or an emergency recertification check. Since I was not rated in multi-engine airplanes at the time, the FAA left me alone. Let's just say I learned a bunch of things that day. |
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[#36]
put my weedhopper down in a cornfield when the fuel pump quit. Thankfully the corn was only knee high and the prop was already stopped.
I landed a quicksilver in a cow pasture when i noticed my sunglasses hanging off the strut, out of my reach. I didn't want them to go thru the prop,,they were prescription! Don't know if these count as I land in fields and misc grass places a lot anyway. edit: my only experience with feds was when a friend touched the river with quicksilver wheels, it flipped and drowned him. I went with them to get the plane out of the river and evaluate. |
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[#37]
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Myself no, but five of my friends that ALL were much older, very experienced Pilots crashed and only one died as a result....kinda made me think there are only two kinds of small airplanes: those that have crashed and those that haven't yet. View Quote |
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[#38]
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I copied and pasted this from an archived thread, but it's my one "off airport landing" story. I had to look it up in my logbook, February of 1987. It was my second hour of multi-engine dual, in a Beech Duthcess. We were up in the practice area near Baraboo, I was flying simulated instrument under the hood. My instructor shut the fuel off to one of the engines, to simulate an engine failure. I did the emergency drill, and feathered the prop. When we did the restart checklist, the prop unfeathered, but the engine didn't restart. For a bunch of reasons, my instructor believed the engine was making partial power, even thigh it was still inoperative. The item of highest drag on a multi-engine airplane is a windmilling propellor. We turned back towards Madison, and he called our "company" (long since out of business, used to be the big, blue hangar on the south ramp) and the boss told him to be sure and get the plane back home. At that point, the die was cast for the rest of the days events. The airplane would not maintain altitude on the good engine, with the prop windmilling, so we were in a gentle descent the whole way back. We made it to about six miles form the Madison airport when we realized we were never going to make the runway. We landed with the gear down, in a frozen, plowed field. The airplane stayed upright, but the prop on the operating engine got the tips bent when it hit a mound of silage. They flew it out of the field, and back to MSN that day. My instructor got what was called a "709 ride" or an emergency recertification check. Since I was not rated in multi-engine airplanes at the time, the FAA left me alone. Let's just say I learned a bunch of things that day. View Quote Glad you both walked away. We were flying hard IMC in a single engine (my neighbor is a pilot, I am aspiring). I am becoming more and more convinced that two engines are the way to go, but they are just unobtainable for me at this point. And me and my family have flown a number of IMC flights in singles. |
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[#40]
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I copied and pasted this from an archived thread, but it's my one "off airport landing" story. I had to look it up in my logbook, February of 1987. It was my second hour of multi-engine dual, in a Beech Duthcess. We were up in the practice area near Baraboo, I was flying simulated instrument under the hood. My instructor shut the fuel off to one of the engines, to simulate an engine failure. I did the emergency drill, and feathered the prop. When we did the restart checklist, the prop unfeathered, but the engine didn't restart. For a bunch of reasons, my instructor believed the engine was making partial power, even thigh it was still inoperative. The item of highest drag on a multi-engine airplane is a windmilling propellor. We turned back towards Madison, and he called our "company" (long since out of business, used to be the big, blue hangar on the south ramp) and the boss told him to be sure and get the plane back home. At that point, the die was cast for the rest of the days events. The airplane would not maintain altitude on the good engine, with the prop windmilling, so we were in a gentle descent the whole way back. We made it to about six miles form the Madison airport when we realized we were never going to make the runway. We landed with the gear down, in a frozen, plowed field. The airplane stayed upright, but the prop on the operating engine got the tips bent when it hit a mound of silage. They flew it out of the field, and back to MSN that day. My instructor got what was called a "709 ride" or an emergency recertification check. Since I was not rated in multi-engine airplanes at the time, the FAA left me alone. Let's just say I learned a bunch of things that day. View Quote |
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[#41]
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Ouch. Failed to feather the prop. Did your instructor pass his 709 ride? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I copied and pasted this from an archived thread, but it's my one "off airport landing" story. I had to look it up in my logbook, February of 1987. It was my second hour of multi-engine dual, in a Beech Duthcess. We were up in the practice area near Baraboo, I was flying simulated instrument under the hood. My instructor shut the fuel off to one of the engines, to simulate an engine failure. I did the emergency drill, and feathered the prop. When we did the restart checklist, the prop unfeathered, but the engine didn't restart. For a bunch of reasons, my instructor believed the engine was making partial power, even thigh it was still inoperative. The item of highest drag on a multi-engine airplane is a windmilling propellor. We turned back towards Madison, and he called our "company" (long since out of business, used to be the big, blue hangar on the south ramp) and the boss told him to be sure and get the plane back home. At that point, the die was cast for the rest of the days events. The airplane would not maintain altitude on the good engine, with the prop windmilling, so we were in a gentle descent the whole way back. We made it to about six miles form the Madison airport when we realized we were never going to make the runway. We landed with the gear down, in a frozen, plowed field. The airplane stayed upright, but the prop on the operating engine got the tips bent when it hit a mound of silage. They flew it out of the field, and back to MSN that day. My instructor got what was called a "709 ride" or an emergency recertification check. Since I was not rated in multi-engine airplanes at the time, the FAA left me alone. Let's just say I learned a bunch of things that day. I'm guessing the 709 ride was largely due to the instructors inability to diagnose whether or not the engine was producing power but even more importantly, for making the classic mistake of allowing the schmuck on the ground to tell the schmuck in the air how to fly the plane. He should have landed immediately at the nearest suitable airfield, Baraboo. But instead he risked their lives trying to appease the boss and in so doing ended up in the field. I'm kinda shocked he bothered to contact the boss at all during that. Aviate, navigate, communicate. Instructor should've called the boss after he was parked on the ramp at Baraboo. |
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[#43]
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Not as bad as these people. http://dwjx78790mroz.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/02143545/dcuviaargwi6fng09g0h.jpg View Quote |
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[#45]
Not yet, but I'm a glider pilot, so basically destine for an off field landing someday.
Lucky for us, it's no big deal |
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[#46]
Single engine recip:
One off field Two made it to an airport Twin recip: One reject below V1 Two inflight- landed at destination Twin turboprop Two inflight shutdowns Jet One failure during rotation One during climb out Both were return to departure airport A couple of failures well below V1, so non events |
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[#47]
I have had an engine failure at 500' agl after take off in a grumman. Not a fond memory.
I am far more worried about medical emergencies while flying solo or as the sole pilot aboard. Loss of consciousness for any reason would be fatal. |
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[#48]
Several times.
Bird strike, faulty gauge readings, chip lights, control servos going bad... Better to land the helicopter now where I want than have it crash where it wants! |
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