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Posted: 9/20/2016 4:37:08 PM EDT
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How much is a Long Bow variant?
Link Posted: 9/20/2016 4:40:55 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/20/2016 4:43:02 PM EDT
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Bystanders... don't all go and help or anything...
Link Posted: 9/20/2016 4:47:06 PM EDT
[#4]
Well, that was expensive.
Link Posted: 9/20/2016 4:48:55 PM EDT
[#5]
That won't buff out.
Link Posted: 9/20/2016 5:12:20 PM EDT
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They're Greek what did you expect?
Link Posted: 9/20/2016 5:39:40 PM EDT
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And it looks like the wingman beat a hasty retreat.  
Link Posted: 9/20/2016 5:46:21 PM EDT
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40 million.
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How much is a Long Bow variant?






40 million.




 
Good thing the Greeks can afford it's replacement......with Merkels money.
Link Posted: 9/20/2016 5:47:18 PM EDT
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Well, somebody else paid for it.



But the embarrassment will last for weeks.



 
Link Posted: 9/20/2016 6:03:39 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/20/2016 6:07:31 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/20/2016 6:09:23 PM EDT
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oops..




Link Posted: 9/20/2016 7:29:14 PM EDT
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That shit always works in the movies....
Link Posted: 9/20/2016 7:39:04 PM EDT
[#14]
Did anyone survive?
Link Posted: 9/20/2016 7:41:00 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/20/2016 8:44:05 PM EDT
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Its reported that they both lived.
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Did anyone survive?


Its reported that they both lived.



Wow, thank God for Tier One restraints, crashworthy seats and pure dumb luck.




Any airbag technology in modern helo's?
Link Posted: 9/20/2016 8:45:11 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/20/2016 8:51:13 PM EDT
[#18]
Ooops.
Link Posted: 9/20/2016 9:00:19 PM EDT
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Soooo, bad day the office then?
Link Posted: 9/20/2016 11:28:38 PM EDT
[#20]
Awesome
Link Posted: 9/21/2016 2:12:27 AM EDT
[#21]
Sucks when you run out of collective.
Link Posted: 9/21/2016 2:57:22 AM EDT
[#22]
That will not look good on his year-end review.
Link Posted: 9/21/2016 3:04:36 AM EDT
[#23]
Hey when you got it, you got it.

Those fuck heads didn't have it.
Link Posted: 9/21/2016 3:31:12 AM EDT
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I don't this Longbow crew will ever fly again.

$40 million dollar mistake.

Link Posted: 9/21/2016 5:54:15 AM EDT
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Old School

Link Posted: 9/21/2016 6:46:23 AM EDT
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I wonder if the Greeks do the helo dunker.


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Some do.  
Link Posted: 9/21/2016 4:30:45 PM EDT
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All part of Darwin's master plan.
Link Posted: 9/21/2016 6:38:14 PM EDT
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So does he get a little Apache painted under the pilots window ?
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 12:58:25 AM EDT
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Some article I saw on the crash said it was an engine failure... Sure....
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 10:05:52 AM EDT
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Looked like there might have been a bird strike through an engine between 5-7 sec mark.
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 10:13:05 AM EDT
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The way the greeks do it, they usually don't have to worry about pulling out!
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 10:17:54 AM EDT
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well the engine sure failed when It ingested all that water, right?
Link Posted: 10/6/2016 1:14:44 PM EDT
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Puff of smoke from #1 engine seconds before gaining altitude. There's a lot of arm chair pilots out there suggesting that the pilot lost an engine, pulled pitch to avoid high speed collision with the ground, and doubled back to water in anticipation of crash.

Everyone else seems to be convinced he was pulling a 1st CAV pitch roll and ran out of collective.
Link Posted: 10/6/2016 4:41:36 PM EDT
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Puff of smoke from #1 engine seconds before gaining altitude....
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That flash is the anti collision light, it's presumably mounted on the engine exhaust of the Greek apaches.  The combination of strobe duration, shutter speed, and frame rate only catches some of the strobe flashes.  Watch random aviation videos on YouTube and you'll often see erratic strobe flashes due to this.

No military copter pilot in the world would fly like that with a face full of warning lights.  Also that aircraft would easily have had enough single engine power to continue level flight.  

Lastly the cone angle on the rotor as he descends toward the water is way higher than you can get with single engine power at normal rotor speed.  

I hate to make assumptions, but all evidence in that video is that he was almost certainly attempting to show off.

Does anybody know if the Greeks have GE or RR engines?
Link Posted: 10/8/2016 12:10:12 PM EDT
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That is almost impossible on an Apache due to the configuration of the engine and nose gearbox.
Link Posted: 10/8/2016 11:10:36 PM EDT
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CFII was vortex ring state involved in this accident, or was it just bad judgement? It appears that the aircraft was moving in clean air.
Link Posted: 10/9/2016 7:32:11 PM EDT
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Speed less than 10 kts, power applied greater than 20% and rate of descent greater than 300 feet per minute. An absence of any of the three means no.

Settling With Power or Vortex Ring State
Link Posted: 10/16/2016 9:44:42 PM EDT
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combat maneuvering flight, then mushing.
Link Posted: 10/19/2016 1:40:54 AM EDT
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Power available < power required to recover.
...just dumb.
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