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Posted: 7/9/2016 10:33:07 PM EDT
PRESS RELEASE – Doc’s Friends, the group managing the restoration of the B-29 known as Doc, announced today the historic B-29 will make its return to flight Sunday, July 17.
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Posted: 7/9/2016 10:38:08 PM EDT
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I pray everyday we can once again be the great nation that we once were .
These guys that rebuilt this 
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Posted: 7/9/2016 11:00:24 PM EDT
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I pray everyday we can once again be the great nation that we once were . These guys that rebuilt this Agree to both. Great plane that won the war and hope out country can get back to what it once was. Time to make America Great Again! |
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Posted: 7/9/2016 11:19:29 PM EDT
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Its beautiful. Looks better than Fifi with that unnatural paint scheme. No offense to a certain someone here.
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Posted: 7/9/2016 11:32:05 PM EDT
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Outstanding! A road trip may be in order.
I worked on Doc a little before I got laid off and left Wichita in 2002. |
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Posted: 7/9/2016 11:40:34 PM EDT
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Been watching the progress on the FB page for a while. Sure will be nice to see it fly again.
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Posted: 7/10/2016 10:26:05 AM EDT
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Its beautiful. Looks better than Fifi with that unnatural paint scheme. No offense to a certain someone here. ElSupremo will have the best seat in the house. |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 12:42:49 AM EDT
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Its beautiful. Looks better than Fifi with that unnatural paint scheme. No offense to a certain someone here. ElSupremo will have the best seat in the house. Hope there will be pictures. |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 11:44:14 AM EDT
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A well known aviation photographer will be in the photo/chase plane and will have hundreds plus video.
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Posted: 7/11/2016 8:35:13 PM EDT
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A well known aviation photographer will be in the photo/chase plane and will have hundreds plus video. I have been thinking about making a drive there to get some pics.
It might be fun. |
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Posted: 7/12/2016 10:35:50 AM EDT
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Are Doc and FiFi going to be up at EAA this year?
I was looking forward to Bombers Over Madison again this year but it looks like they will be in Janesville the first weekend of EAA. |
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Posted: 7/12/2016 11:59:49 AM EDT
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Honest question.
How many B29 Pilot in Commands do we have in this country, let alone the world? |
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Posted: 7/12/2016 1:12:37 PM EDT
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Honest question. How many B29 Pilot in Commands do we have in this country, let alone the world? Not sure, I know we used to have one here, but there's a strong correlation between being a high status aviation professional and getting banned from arfcom. |
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Posted: 7/12/2016 2:24:09 PM EDT
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Not sure, I know we used to have one here, but there's a strong correlation between being a high status aviation professional and getting banned from arfcom. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Honest question. How many B29 Pilot in Commands do we have in this country, let alone the world? Not sure, I know we used to have one here, but there's a strong correlation between being a high status aviation professional and getting banned from arfcom. I miss all the drama. What's that all about? |
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Posted: 7/12/2016 2:32:00 PM EDT
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I miss all the drama. What's that all about? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Honest question. How many B29 Pilot in Commands do we have in this country, let alone the world? Not sure, I know we used to have one here, but there's a strong correlation between being a high status aviation professional and getting banned from arfcom. I miss all the drama. What's that all about? His name was old cat driver. I'm sure his spirit lives on......... 
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Posted: 7/12/2016 6:55:15 PM EDT
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I told my boss today about Doc being done and ready for a flight on Sunday. She said take Monday off and go take pictures! And they are paying me for my Monday!
Now I have to get ready for a road trip. 
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Posted: 7/15/2016 10:55:30 AM EDT
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Be sure to check DOC's website for designated public area to watch take off.
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Posted: 7/16/2016 6:56:56 AM EDT
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I am rounding up the crew this morning and we are headed to Wichita.
Engine run ups and some taxi checks today. DOC willing, we fly in the morning. |
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Posted: 7/16/2016 7:06:45 AM EDT
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I am rounding up the crew this morning and we are headed to Wichita. Engine run ups and some taxi checks today. DOC willing, we fly in the morning. Nice! I'm on the road myself. Have a few places planned out for viewing. .mil ID.
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Posted: 7/16/2016 7:56:21 AM EDT
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Here's to a safe flight!
<------------- After flight of course.  |
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Posted: 7/16/2016 11:52:27 PM EDT
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Looking forward to a successful return to the skies, el supremo!
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Posted: 7/17/2016 7:09:01 AM EDT
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I'm waiting!
Have camera ready! 
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Posted: 7/17/2016 7:20:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/17/2016 8:40:08 AM EDT
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I gots me a TWA ramp to shoot from.
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Posted: 7/17/2016 9:46:16 AM EDT
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She Flies!
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Posted: 7/17/2016 10:06:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryGlorious! She looked wonderful in flight. |
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Posted: 7/17/2016 10:13:05 AM EDT
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Awesome safe first flight. Congrats!
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Posted: 7/17/2016 7:27:16 PM EDT
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Anyone know how the flight went yet?
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Posted: 7/17/2016 7:50:54 PM EDT
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Looks like they had some engine indicator go off that they didn't like so turned back. I just read that on news on the inter webs so take it with grain of salt. I was wondering why they did a quick lap and never raised the gear from what I would tell from the live feed.
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Posted: 7/17/2016 10:33:02 PM EDT
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Looks like they had some engine indicator go off that they didn't like so turned back. I just read that on news on the inter webs so take it with grain of salt. I was wondering why they did a quick lap and never raised the gear from what I would tell from the live feed. I always thought that first flights are traditionally quick and dirty. |
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Posted: 7/17/2016 10:46:19 PM EDT
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I always thought that first flights are traditionally quick and dirty. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looks like they had some engine indicator go off that they didn't like so turned back. I just read that on news on the inter webs so take it with grain of salt. I was wondering why they did a quick lap and never raised the gear from what I would tell from the live feed. I always thought that first flights are traditionally quick and dirty. First flights are usual fast or short to test controls, stability and stresses on the plane. They also fly gear down for quick landing, just one more item the pilot does not have to worry about. A recent p38 plane, b or c model recovered from Greenland, made it's first flight wheels down. It had engine problems lost power and the pilot had to set down after a five minute flight. No time for the gear to be raised or lowered. Plane was worked on and now flies air shows. |
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Posted: 7/18/2016 12:03:42 AM EDT
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First flights are usual fast or short to test controls, stability and stresses on the plane. They also fly gear down for quick landing, just one more item the pilot does not have to worry about. A recent p38 plane, b or c model recovered from Greenland, made it's first flight wheels down. It had engine problems lost power and the pilot had to set down after a five minute flight. No time for the gear to be raised or lowered. Plane was worked on and now flies air shows. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looks like they had some engine indicator go off that they didn't like so turned back. I just read that on news on the inter webs so take it with grain of salt. I was wondering why they did a quick lap and never raised the gear from what I would tell from the live feed. I always thought that first flights are traditionally quick and dirty. First flights are usual fast or short to test controls, stability and stresses on the plane. They also fly gear down for quick landing, just one more item the pilot does not have to worry about. A recent p38 plane, b or c model recovered from Greenland, made it's first flight wheels down. It had engine problems lost power and the pilot had to set down after a five minute flight. No time for the gear to be raised or lowered. Plane was worked on and now flies air shows. Glacier Girl |
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Posted: 7/18/2016 2:11:56 AM EDT
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Here is a Quick one boys and girls. Just got home from a LONG drive so I will go through more tomorrow.
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Posted: 7/18/2016 11:02:26 AM EDT
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Awesome!
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Posted: 7/18/2016 11:18:00 AM EDT
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so much awesome
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Posted: 7/18/2016 2:59:09 PM EDT
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Looks like they had some engine indicator go off that they didn't like so turned back. I just read that on news on the inter webs so take it with grain of salt. I was wondering why they did a quick lap and never raised the gear from what I would tell from the live feed. Good buddy of mine was one of the flight engineers on Doc and said they had a chip detector light come on #4 at rotation. Then around 500 ft, #1 and #2 started to come on. Engine indications were all normal but decided to not risk it. |
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Posted: 7/18/2016 3:15:12 PM EDT
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Good buddy of mine was one of the flight engineers on Doc and said they had a chip detector light come on #4 at rotation. Then around 500 ft, #1 and #2 started to come on. Engine indications were all normal but decided to not risk it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looks like they had some engine indicator go off that they didn't like so turned back. I just read that on news on the inter webs so take it with grain of salt. I was wondering why they did a quick lap and never raised the gear from what I would tell from the live feed. Good buddy of mine was one of the flight engineers on Doc and said they had a chip detector light come on #4 at rotation. Then around 500 ft, #1 and #2 started to come on. Engine indications were all normal but decided to not risk it. That's a moment that would cause some ass puckering. |
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Posted: 7/18/2016 3:25:02 PM EDT
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144 spark plugs.
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Posted: 7/18/2016 3:44:16 PM EDT
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That's a moment that would cause some ass puckering. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looks like they had some engine indicator go off that they didn't like so turned back. I just read that on news on the inter webs so take it with grain of salt. I was wondering why they did a quick lap and never raised the gear from what I would tell from the live feed. Good buddy of mine was one of the flight engineers on Doc and said they had a chip detector light come on #4 at rotation. Then around 500 ft, #1 and #2 started to come on. Engine indications were all normal but decided to not risk it. That's a moment that would cause some ass puckering. Yes it would. With fresh engines it may be something super simple, or it could be something major. Either way it is in everyones best interests to set her down asap. I had a lot of fun watching history with my son and father. As a hilarious side note, my father fell asleep while sitting on the base of the TWA steps and almost fell off. I laughed, he laughed and fun was had.
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Posted: 7/18/2016 3:55:44 PM EDT
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Some things you can never anticipate because when the plane is in the air, wings flex, air and vibrations rattle things you can never test on the ground. I think it went well considering it hasn't flown in decades.
I spent a week changing every spark plug on FIFI back in November and it was a mess. Oil just gets into and saturates everything. |
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Posted: 7/18/2016 4:19:37 PM EDT
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Some things you can never anticipate because when the plane is in the air, wings flex, air and vibrations rattle things you can never test on the ground. I think it went well considering it hasn't flown in decades. I spent a week changing every spark plug on FIFI back in November and it was a mess. Oil just gets into and saturates everything. I bet those on the bottom cylinders are the worst. Were chip detectors original equipment? |
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Posted: 7/18/2016 5:35:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/23/2016 4:54:39 PM EDT
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Any videos of the flight yet?
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Posted: 7/23/2016 5:23:51 PM EDT
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Any videos of the flight yet? Page 1. It's glorious! 'Merica!! |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 8:19:36 PM EDT
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Any videos of the flight yet? there is a few out there. |
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Posted: 7/26/2016 11:41:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/27/2016 10:12:38 AM EDT
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Other than it being a Boeing aircraft, any reason for its engine starting sequence of #3, #4, #2 then #1?
For a commercial Boeing aircraft the right side engine is started first in order to have brakes. Is this true for the B-29 as well? |
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Posted: 7/27/2016 4:09:50 PM EDT
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Other than it being a Boeing aircraft, any reason for its engine starting sequence of #3, #4, #2 then #1? For a commercial Boeing aircraft the right side engine is started first in order to have brakes. Is this true for the B-29 as well? The B-29 only has one hydraulic item and that is wheel brakes. There is only one hydraulic pump and it is electric. The engines can be started in any sequence, it doesn't really matter. The main reason for starting 3 & 4 first is that the backward facing flight engineer can look directly at them through a big window on the right while trying to convince them to come to life. When starting 2 & 1 he can only see just a tiny bit of their props through the little window on the left. The B-29 was an advanced technology flying war machine at the end of WWII for dispensing bombs, but it had absolutely no modern conveniences except for pressurization. It requires someone at the controls with muscles and knowledge of how to use their feet to coordinate flight control inputs. It had no: Boosted flight controls Nosewheel steering Reverse Anti-skid brakes Yaw damper Trim buttons (all manual trim wheels) Air conditioning |
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Posted: 7/27/2016 4:19:06 PM EDT
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Any word on the chip indicators? (As in, are the engines okay?)
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