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Posted: 2/4/2016 11:32:14 AM EDT
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WTF???? My thought exactly.
Maybe he had a good reason, but I would be scared to death of flipping it and/or drowning. Bellying in on the pavement would be my first choice any day. Either way, the engines are F'd now. Probably more salt water damage to it than metal work on the belly. |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 1:17:54 PM EDT
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Wtf indeed.
No way would I ditch vs bellying it in on a runway. Maybe he really hated the plane, and wanted to finish it off with a nice saltwater bath. |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 1:18:56 PM EDT
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WTF???? My thought exactly. Maybe he had a good reason, but I would be scared to death of flipping it and/or drowning. Bellying in on the pavement would be my first choice any day. Either way, the engines are F'd now. Probably more salt water damage to it than metal work on the belly. Totalled now for insurance reasons? I can't come up with any reason not to gear it up on a runway. |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 1:20:09 PM EDT
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WTF???? My thought exactly. Maybe he had a good reason, but I would be scared to death of flipping it and/or drowning. Bellying in on the pavement would be my first choice any day. Either way, the engines are F'd now. Probably more salt water damage to it than metal work on the belly. I know what he was thinking. I can gear up on the runway and go though the repair process away from home at a strange airport or I can get out from owning this thing altogether. But then again stress can make folks not think strait sometimes. |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 1:21:31 PM EDT
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Wtf indeed.
No way would I ditch vs bellying it in on a runway. Maybe he really hated the plane, and wanted to finish it off with a nice saltwater bath. It looked like a Skymaster to me, I would have wanted to finish it off too! |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 2:54:33 PM EDT
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Water looked warm.
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Posted: 2/4/2016 5:58:32 PM EDT
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Idiot.
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Posted: 2/4/2016 7:10:02 PM EDT
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I saw a 337 belly land on 13R at KBFI several years ago. Saw him on short final then noticed his mains looking like the legs of a wasp in flight. He touched down and stopped in about 300 ft. Closed the main runway down for a few hours.
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Posted: 2/4/2016 11:05:12 PM EDT
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Something don't smell right. Strange airport? He was in Honolulu. You suppose he flew out there from California? 2 hours of fuel? Don't they foam runways for this sort of thing, time permitting?
ETA: I guess that's no longer a standard practice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foam_path |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 10:51:07 AM EDT
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Something don't smell right. Strange airport? He was in Honolulu. You suppose he flew out there from California? 2 hours of fuel? Don't they foam runways for this sort of thing, time permitting? ETA: I guess that's no longer a standard practice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foam_path For most light aircraft, if there is about 1500 feet of grass, you can belly it in with little or limited damage, especially if you stop the engine and motor the prop into place. |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 10:52:42 AM EDT
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For most light aircraft, if there is about 1500 feet of grass, you can belly it in with little or limited damage, especially if you stop the engine and motor the prop into place. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Something don't smell right. Strange airport? He was in Honolulu. You suppose he flew out there from California? 2 hours of fuel? Don't they foam runways for this sort of thing, time permitting? ETA: I guess that's no longer a standard practice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foam_path For most light aircraft, if there is about 1500 feet of grass, you can belly it in with little or limited damage, especially if you stop the engine and motor the prop into place. Exactly what I would have done |
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Posted: 2/11/2016 1:03:26 AM EDT
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It looked like a Skymaster to me, I would have wanted to finish it off too! Came here to post this... 
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Posted: 2/11/2016 5:46:45 AM EDT
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Came here to post this...
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It looked like a Skymaster to me, I would have wanted to finish it off too! Came here to post this...
Think of all the mechanics' children who will now starve! |
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Posted: 2/11/2016 9:05:07 AM EDT
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It looked like a Skymaster to me, I would have wanted to finish it off too! Came here to post this...
Think of all the mechanics' children who will now starve! Possibly. But at least now those children won't be fatherless from their father hanging himself after working on one of those bastards. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 12:13:32 PM EDT
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It looked like a Skymaster to me, I would have wanted to finish it off too! Came here to post this...
Think of all the mechanics' children who will now starve! As a former C337 owner, I can confirm. I don't miss that plane. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 3:13:39 PM EDT
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My neighbor set his sea plane down on a concrete runway a perfect keel landing. We jacked it up so the gear could come down and he taxied back to the hanger for minor repairs.
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Posted: 2/14/2016 3:45:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly what I would have done Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Something don't smell right. Strange airport? He was in Honolulu. You suppose he flew out there from California? 2 hours of fuel? Don't they foam runways for this sort of thing, time permitting? ETA: I guess that's no longer a standard practice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foam_path For most light aircraft, if there is about 1500 feet of grass, you can belly it in with little or limited damage, especially if you stop the engine and motor the prop into place. Exactly what I would have done I was taught not to pick the grass, if pavement is an option. Grass / dirt there is more of a possibility of digging something in, and somersaulting /tumbling. In hard pavement, you just slide /grind to a halt. Same as crashing on a motorcycle, things tend to slide until you reach the grass or dirt on the side of the track, and then the tumbling and destruction starts.  I have personally tested this with a motorcycle, not with a 'plane, yet. IMHO YMMV |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:15:30 PM EDT
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Sounds like an insurance deal to me.
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:36:40 PM EDT
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I was taught not to pick the grass, if pavement is an option. Grass / dirt there is more of a possibility of digging something in, and somersaulting /tumbling. In hard pavement, you just slide /grind to a halt. Same as crashing on a motorcycle, things tend to slide until you reach the grass or dirt on the side of the track, and then the tumbling and destruction starts.
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Something don't smell right. Strange airport? He was in Honolulu. You suppose he flew out there from California? 2 hours of fuel? Don't they foam runways for this sort of thing, time permitting? ETA: I guess that's no longer a standard practice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foam_path For most light aircraft, if there is about 1500 feet of grass, you can belly it in with little or limited damage, especially if you stop the engine and motor the prop into place. Exactly what I would have done I was taught not to pick the grass, if pavement is an option. Grass / dirt there is more of a possibility of digging something in, and somersaulting /tumbling. In hard pavement, you just slide /grind to a halt. Same as crashing on a motorcycle, things tend to slide until you reach the grass or dirt on the side of the track, and then the tumbling and destruction starts.
I have personally tested this with a motorcycle, not with a 'plane, yet. IMHO YMMV This +1 |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 8:52:36 AM EDT
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I've still got 500 more "other than paved" landings in my logbook than paved landings. If I were familiar with the local terrain and the consistency of the turf I'd pick the turf so long as it was try and level-ish.
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Posted: 2/15/2016 3:34:29 PM EDT
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I've still got 500 more "other than paved" landings in my logbook than paved landings. If I were familiar with the local terrain and the consistency of the turf I'd pick the turf so long as it was try and level-ish. Never landed gear up but hanger talk said asphalt/concrete was preferred as grass/sod had a tendency to roll up and tear sheet metal. Got no idea if true. |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 3:45:06 PM EDT
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Maybe he didn't like fire?
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Posted: 2/15/2016 10:50:15 PM EDT
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Never landed gear up but hanger talk said asphalt/concrete was preferred as grass/sod had a tendency to roll up and tear sheet metal. Got no idea if true. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've still got 500 more "other than paved" landings in my logbook than paved landings. If I were familiar with the local terrain and the consistency of the turf I'd pick the turf so long as it was try and level-ish. Never landed gear up but hanger talk said asphalt/concrete was preferred as grass/sod had a tendency to roll up and tear sheet metal. Got no idea if true. I've rebuilt GA planes after both, I prefer dirt cleanout. |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:23:26 PM EDT
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one less Polish buzzbomb
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Posted: 2/16/2016 3:10:49 AM EDT
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For most light aircraft, if there is about 1500 feet of grass, you can belly it in with little or limited damage, especially if you stop the engine and motor the prop into place. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Something don't smell right. Strange airport? He was in Honolulu. You suppose he flew out there from California? 2 hours of fuel? Don't they foam runways for this sort of thing, time permitting? ETA: I guess that's no longer a standard practice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foam_path For most light aircraft, if there is about 1500 feet of grass, you can belly it in with little or limited damage, especially if you stop the engine and motor the prop into place. I thought about grass, but I think you would be better off on the runway. Something might dig into the grass and flip you. |
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Posted: 2/16/2016 3:40:49 AM EDT
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Seems there would be fewer sparks on the grass?
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Posted: 2/16/2016 8:35:48 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/16/2016 10:50:52 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/16/2016 11:12:04 AM EDT
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Registration required Quote HistoryAlong with a 48hr authorization period. |
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Posted: 2/16/2016 11:17:48 AM EDT
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Along with a 48hr authorization period. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Along with a 48hr authorization period. Et tu, esa17? |
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Posted: 2/16/2016 1:50:29 PM EDT
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Crap, sorry about that link. I've been a member there long enough that it didn't even dawn on me that you'd need to be registered.
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