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Posted: 2/3/2016 10:40:37 PM EDT
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B36 Engineer panel
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Posted: 2/3/2016 10:57:40 PM EDT
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B36 Engineer panel F.M.L. Wow Same thing I thought!!!  And what is up with the shag green seats in the B1 Lancer?
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Posted: 2/4/2016 12:44:12 AM EDT
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Awesome link, thanks for posting it up. ETA: I recently went out to the Pima Air/Space Museum (by the DM boneyard) and they had a B-36 on the grounds...I knew the B-36 was big, but holy shit. It was impressive to see how big it was in person. |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 1:22:19 AM EDT
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B36 Engineer panel F.M.L. Wow I look at that and think about my relitively simple turbines... that are ALL THE SAME. We have a page of finely spaced ops limits we are supposed to have memorized. I can't imagine how many pages of ops limits that would take today with all those engines. And, if you look at it, there is more to it. There has to be a ton of remote circuit breakers and electrical/hydraulic panels elsewhere. There is also the radio operators station as well as the navs which I am sure has some additional things to break. It would just be an endless stream of "hey Eng, com'ere! does this look/sound/smell funny to you?" |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 10:15:18 AM EDT
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Same thing I thought!!! And what is up with the shag green seats in the B1 Lancer?Quote HistoryQuoted:
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B36 Engineer panel F.M.L. Wow Same thing I thought!!! And what is up with the shag green seats in the B1 Lancer?That's the normal type of seat pad for the ACES II seat. Most are black but for what ever reason the B-1 is green. |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 12:33:18 PM EDT
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Thanks for not letting me get anything else productive done today...
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Posted: 2/9/2016 1:22:25 PM EDT
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I like the throttles on the A-10.
"Hey Pete! Go carve up the countertop in the breakroom and make me some handles!" |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 1:37:17 PM EDT
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Awesome!!!!
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Posted: 2/9/2016 9:32:06 PM EDT
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Some of those cockpits are amazingly simple.
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:10:53 PM EDT
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I'd hate to have to fly an approach from the back seat of the B-45, what a horrible cockpit arrangement.
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:53:21 PM EDT
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I'd hate to have to fly an approach from the back seat of the B-45, what a horrible cockpit arrangement. There are some bad ones arent there... but from my experience, as long as the planes have the 1960s style grey / black ADI, it ain't that bad. The old ADIs like that precessed bad, but the upside was that they could be levelled by the little knob. So, when you were configured on the approach and 0VVI, level the ADI and just look at what is important... it takes a little mental math sometimes with the descent rates, but I honestly prefer that old grey/black ADI with the pitch & bank steering bars to the newer blue/black steam ADIs with their so called flight directors. The below links are to a great panel. Those cross hairs on the ADI aren't flight directors. They are weird, but I like them. Sadly, I will never see them again. That ancient drum air speed indicator though... is hard to get used to. http://www.nmusafvirtualtour.com/media/090/C-130E%20Pilot%20Station.html http://www.nmusafvirtualtour.com/media/090/C-130E%20Copilot%20Station.html Plus, check out the ADFs on the co pilots side of the pedestal. Coffee grinder carrier wave style. You actually have to listen to the wwwwwwwwwwwweeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwww sound to tune it. I was told, that they were the same as on the old prop bombers.
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Posted: 2/11/2016 1:47:41 PM EDT
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Whoa!
Take a look at the Flight Deck overview on the C-141. Apparently that aircraft made a trip from Vietnam to the Philippines circa 1975. Wonder if I ever touched that plane at Kadena. |
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Posted: 2/11/2016 2:08:44 PM EDT
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There are some bad ones arent there... but from my experience, as long as the planes have the 1960s style grey / black ADI, it ain't that bad. The old ADIs like that precessed bad, but the upside was that they could be levelled by the little knob. So, when you were configured on the approach and 0VVI, level the ADI and just look at what is important... it takes a little mental math sometimes with the descent rates, but I honestly prefer that old grey/black ADI with the pitch & bank steering bars to the newer blue/black steam ADIs with their so called flight directors. The below links are to a great panel. Those cross hairs on the ADI aren't flight directors. They are weird, but I like them. Sadly, I will never see them again. That ancient drum air speed indicator though... is hard to get used to. http://www.nmusafvirtualtour.com/media/090/C-130E%20Pilot%20Station.html http://www.nmusafvirtualtour.com/media/090/C-130E%20Copilot%20Station.html Plus, check out the ADFs on the co pilots side of the pedestal. Coffee grinder carrier wave style. You actually have to listen to the wwwwwwwwwwwweeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwww sound to tune it. I was told, that they were the same as on the old prop bombers.Those CDUs and VVIs look downright out of place on that panel. |
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Posted: 2/11/2016 2:11:09 PM EDT
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There are some bad ones arent there... but from my experience, as long as the planes have the 1960s style grey / black ADI, it ain't that bad. The old ADIs like that precessed bad, but the upside was that they could be levelled by the little knob. So, when you were configured on the approach and 0VVI, level the ADI and just look at what is important... it takes a little mental math sometimes with the descent rates, but I honestly prefer that old grey/black ADI with the pitch & bank steering bars to the newer blue/black steam ADIs with their so called flight directors. The below links are to a great panel. Those cross hairs on the ADI aren't flight directors. They are weird, but I like them. Sadly, I will never see them again. That ancient drum air speed indicator though... is hard to get used to. http://www.nmusafvirtualtour.com/media/090/C-130E%20Pilot%20Station.html http://www.nmusafvirtualtour.com/media/090/C-130E%20Copilot%20Station.html Plus, check out the ADFs on the co pilots side of the pedestal. Coffee grinder carrier wave style. You actually have to listen to the wwwwwwwwwwwweeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwww sound to tune it. I was told, that they were the same as on the old prop bombers.Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'd hate to have to fly an approach from the back seat of the B-45, what a horrible cockpit arrangement. There are some bad ones arent there... but from my experience, as long as the planes have the 1960s style grey / black ADI, it ain't that bad. The old ADIs like that precessed bad, but the upside was that they could be levelled by the little knob. So, when you were configured on the approach and 0VVI, level the ADI and just look at what is important... it takes a little mental math sometimes with the descent rates, but I honestly prefer that old grey/black ADI with the pitch & bank steering bars to the newer blue/black steam ADIs with their so called flight directors. The below links are to a great panel. Those cross hairs on the ADI aren't flight directors. They are weird, but I like them. Sadly, I will never see them again. That ancient drum air speed indicator though... is hard to get used to. http://www.nmusafvirtualtour.com/media/090/C-130E%20Pilot%20Station.html http://www.nmusafvirtualtour.com/media/090/C-130E%20Copilot%20Station.html Plus, check out the ADFs on the co pilots side of the pedestal. Coffee grinder carrier wave style. You actually have to listen to the wwwwwwwwwwwweeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwww sound to tune it. I was told, that they were the same as on the old prop bombers.I actually prefer the "dual cue" or crosshair flight directors over the "single cue" batwing style, but thats just me. I've had the chance to use one of the coffee grinder ADF's, as well as fly an airplane with an all black sperry horizon, and one of these DG's..I'd rather work behind a PFD these days, it's hard to beat having it all on one tube, along with the trend vectors. 
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Posted: 2/12/2016 2:16:57 PM EDT
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The signatures all over the 141 is pretty cool |
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Posted: 4/21/2016 9:01:44 PM EDT
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I've always been fascinated by the B-26 waist gunner positions. I've always thought it would be a hell of a thing to be sitting there, at altitude, above those gaping holes.
My pic from the museum: 
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Posted: 4/21/2016 9:35:04 PM EDT
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I actually prefer the "dual cue" or crosshair flight directors over the "single cue" batwing style, but thats just me. I've had the chance to use one of the coffee grinder ADF's, as well as fly an airplane with an all black sperry horizon, and one of these DG's..I'd rather work behind a PFD these days, it's hard to beat having it all on one tube, along with the trend vectors. <a href="http://s21.photobucket.com/user/nimslow/media/11-25-14/_57_zpspccvhgkk.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/nimslow/11-25-14/_57_zpspccvhgkk.jpg</a> I pulled a DG just like that and the all black artificial horizon out of our 172. They're now sitting on the bookshelf in my wife's office. They look a lot better there than in the panel. I didn't have much experience with the dual cue FDs until the 'bus, everything else I've flown had single cue Collins. I prefer it now as well, but it could just be because it works a lot better than in the old stuff I'd been flying.
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