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Posted: 1/18/2016 6:21:30 PM EDT
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A Blakhawk can fly on one engine too... Ask me how I know
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Posted: 1/18/2016 6:42:02 PM EDT
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Anything more than one engine is a crutch!
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Posted: 1/18/2016 7:03:06 PM EDT
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A Blakhawk can fly on one engine too... Ask me how I know OK How do you know????????????? |
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Posted: 1/18/2016 7:36:49 PM EDT
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Meh...
Piper Cub's been doin it for 66 years. |
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Posted: 1/18/2016 8:25:55 PM EDT
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I was on an airliner that flew on only one engine a few months ago. The flight wasn't as long as it would have been on two engines.
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Posted: 1/19/2016 4:01:46 AM EDT
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Did ya know that? I reddit. But what made me laugh was "Do you know an F16 can, if necessary, fly on only one engine?" "it can even go supersonic on one engine" It can? 
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Posted: 1/19/2016 4:24:27 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/19/2016 8:45:39 AM EDT
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Quoted: Did ya know that? I reddit. But what made me laugh was "Do you know an F16 can, if necessary, fly on only one engine?" "it can even go supersonic on one engine" |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 8:55:04 PM EDT
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I soloed single engine.
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Posted: 1/20/2016 9:15:29 AM EDT
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So........can 2 single engine pilots fly a twin? One flies the left engine, the other flies the right engine????
 
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Posted: 1/21/2016 2:19:09 AM EDT
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The F16 thing is hilarious. Lol As far as the airliner thing, its kind of a requirement. Their heads would explode if they knew they could takeoff with one engine too, after V1 that is.
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Posted: 1/21/2016 2:32:30 AM EDT
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The F16 thing is hilarious. Lol As far as the airliner thing, its kind of a requirement. Their heads would explode if they knew they could takeoff with one engine too, after V1 that is. How close can they get to Mach 1? On both engines of course, say a 777. |
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Posted: 1/21/2016 12:44:12 PM EDT
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How close can they get to Mach 1? On both engines of course, say a 777. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The F16 thing is hilarious. Lol As far as the airliner thing, its kind of a requirement. Their heads would explode if they knew they could takeoff with one engine too, after V1 that is. How close can they get to Mach 1? On both engines of course, say a 777. Isn't Mne something like .9 ? |
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Posted: 1/21/2016 1:55:11 PM EDT
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How close can they get to Mach 1? On both engines of course, say a 777. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The F16 thing is hilarious. Lol As far as the airliner thing, its kind of a requirement. Their heads would explode if they knew they could takeoff with one engine too, after V1 that is. How close can they get to Mach 1? On both engines of course, say a 777. I think I'm still half asleep because I'm missing the joke. lol I was referring to them talkie g about twin engines and a F16. I'm still waking up. |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:39:43 AM EDT
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I'm gonna go on a limb here and say a 747 can not fly on one engine...
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:42:28 AM EDT
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How close can they get to Mach 1? On both engines of course, say a 777. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The F16 thing is hilarious. Lol As far as the airliner thing, its kind of a requirement. Their heads would explode if they knew they could takeoff with one engine too, after V1 that is. How close can they get to Mach 1? On both engines of course, say a 777. Way above it......in a power-on dive |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 6:22:02 AM EDT
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The F16 thing is hilarious. Lol As far as the airliner thing, its kind of a requirement. Their heads would explode if they knew they could takeoff with one engine too, after V1 that is. How close can they get to Mach 1? On both engines of course, say a 777. Way above it......in a power-on dive Will it get past, and then not break up? |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 6:30:55 AM EDT
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I'm gonna go on a limb here and say a 747 can not fly on one engine... One has, actually. Of course that single engine was a 777 engine (ge90-115b) and the three CF-6s were running, just at idle... 
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Posted: 1/23/2016 12:52:21 PM EDT
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The F16 thing is hilarious. Lol As far as the airliner thing, its kind of a requirement. Their heads would explode if they knew they could takeoff with one engine too, after V1 that is. How close can they get to Mach 1? On both engines of course, say a 777. Way above it......in a power-on dive Will it get past, and then not break up? Yea, a 777 could get super-sonic in a dive. Not sure exactly what would happen, but it wouldn't be good for the airframe. Definite damage, but I'd be flat guessing as to the type/extent. |
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Posted: 1/23/2016 12:53:02 PM EDT
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One has, actually. Of course that single engine was a 777 engine (ge90-115b) and the three CF-6s were running, just at idle... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/07/Ge-747-N747GE-020918-03.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm gonna go on a limb here and say a 747 can not fly on one engine... One has, actually. Of course that single engine was a 777 engine (ge90-115b) and the three CF-6s were running, just at idle... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/07/Ge-747-N747GE-020918-03.jpg Well I'll be..... I stand corrected, sort of
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Posted: 1/24/2016 1:20:23 PM EDT
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I'm gonna go on a limb here and say a 747 can not fly on one engine... Fly? Probably. Climb? No. |
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Posted: 1/24/2016 1:36:07 PM EDT
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I'm gonna go on a limb here and say a 747 can not fly on one engine... Fly? Probably. Climb? No. Maybe at a very low altitude and weight. Granted I've never flown a 747, but in the C-17 (as in just about any multi-engine airplane, as you know) we had OEI drift down calculations from normal cruising altitudes, because even with the loss of just one engine we wouldn't be able to maintain normal altitudes. Nothing existed for 3 engines out, except the parachutes. One crew managed to barely land on 2, but it was close. |
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Posted: 1/24/2016 1:52:51 PM EDT
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Maybe at a very low altitude and weight. Granted I've never flown a 747, but in the C-17 (as in just about any multi-engine airplane, as you know) we had OEI drift down calculations from normal cruising altitudes, because even with the loss of just one engine we wouldn't be able to maintain normal altitudes. Nothing existed for 3 engines out, except the parachutes. One crew managed to barely land on 2, but it was close. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm gonna go on a limb here and say a 747 can not fly on one engine... Fly? Probably. Climb? No. Maybe at a very low altitude and weight. Granted I've never flown a 747, but in the C-17 (as in just about any multi-engine airplane, as you know) we had OEI drift down calculations from normal cruising altitudes, because even with the loss of just one engine we wouldn't be able to maintain normal altitudes. Nothing existed for 3 engines out, except the parachutes. One crew managed to barely land on 2, but it was close. I know of a L1011 that flew from over ABQ at cruise to LAX on a single engine. The crew chose not to divert to ABQ because they didn't have one engine go around performance at 5500 MSL. A 707 could do SE approaches with go around capability if the speeds were maintained in the 200s. |
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Posted: 1/24/2016 2:25:25 PM EDT
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I know of a L1011 that flew from over ABQ at cruise to LAX on a single engine. The crew chose not to divert to ABQ because they didn't have one engine go around performance at 5500 MSL. A 707 could do SE approaches with go around capability if the speeds were maintained in the 200s. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm gonna go on a limb here and say a 747 can not fly on one engine... Fly? Probably. Climb? No. Maybe at a very low altitude and weight. Granted I've never flown a 747, but in the C-17 (as in just about any multi-engine airplane, as you know) we had OEI drift down calculations from normal cruising altitudes, because even with the loss of just one engine we wouldn't be able to maintain normal altitudes. Nothing existed for 3 engines out, except the parachutes. One crew managed to barely land on 2, but it was close. I know of a L1011 that flew from over ABQ at cruise to LAX on a single engine. The crew chose not to divert to ABQ because they didn't have one engine go around performance at 5500 MSL. A 707 could do SE approaches with go around capability if the speeds were maintained in the 200s. Pretty impressive...I certainly could be wrong. Then again, an L1011 that's on one engine has lost 66% of it's thrust, whereas a 747 on 1 has lost 75%. Same for the 707 though, so who knows. Suppose I could reach out to a couple friends who are flying them to get to the bottom of this 
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Posted: 1/24/2016 3:15:46 PM EDT
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Pretty impressive...I certainly could be wrong. Then again, an L1011 that's on one engine has lost 66% of it's thrust, whereas a 747 on 1 has lost 75%. Same for the 707 though, so who knows. Suppose I could reach out to a couple friends who are flying them to get to the bottom of this
Oh yeah...you'd have to light. I imagine its going to do a SE V1 cut. But, if you're at altitude, its different. The big thing to consider is that > 2 engine airplanes lose less of their total excess horsepower for climbing. Thus, twin engine airplanes are always pretty overpowered. 3/4 engine airplanes aren't. The L1011 had the fan come off one of the wing engines, fly forward, and then come back to shell the other one out. They maintained a safe altitude and airspeed over that part of the country, but a go around at LAX is a go around at sea level with no obstructions for time zones going westbound. I know my father said the 707 was better on a single engine if it was inboard vs. outboard engine, but they were doing all of their training in the airplane. |
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Posted: 1/24/2016 5:32:51 PM EDT
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I know of a L1011 that flew from over ABQ at cruise to LAX on a single engine. The crew chose not to divert to ABQ because they didn't have one engine go around performance at 5500 MSL. A 707 could do SE approaches with go around capability if the speeds were maintained in the 200s. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm gonna go on a limb here and say a 747 can not fly on one engine... Fly? Probably. Climb? No. Maybe at a very low altitude and weight. Granted I've never flown a 747, but in the C-17 (as in just about any multi-engine airplane, as you know) we had OEI drift down calculations from normal cruising altitudes, because even with the loss of just one engine we wouldn't be able to maintain normal altitudes. Nothing existed for 3 engines out, except the parachutes. One crew managed to barely land on 2, but it was close. I know of a L1011 that flew from over ABQ at cruise to LAX on a single engine. The crew chose not to divert to ABQ because they didn't have one engine go around performance at 5500 MSL. A 707 could do SE approaches with go around capability if the speeds were maintained in the 200s. If you did a single engine go-around in a B-707 you had best be early, high, light, clean and have more extra energy than a lizard running on a hardwood floor 
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Posted: 1/24/2016 9:17:36 PM EDT
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If you did a single engine go-around in a B-707 you had best be early, high, light, clean and have more extra energy than a lizard running on a hardwood floor
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Maybe at a very low altitude and weight. Granted I've never flown a 747, but in the C-17 (as in just about any multi-engine airplane, as you know) we had OEI drift down calculations from normal cruising altitudes, because even with the loss of just one engine we wouldn't be able to maintain normal altitudes. Nothing existed for 3 engines out, except the parachutes. One crew managed to barely land on 2, but it was close. I know of a L1011 that flew from over ABQ at cruise to LAX on a single engine. The crew chose not to divert to ABQ because they didn't have one engine go around performance at 5500 MSL. A 707 could do SE approaches with go around capability if the speeds were maintained in the 200s. If you did a single engine go-around in a B-707 you had best be early, high, light, clean and have more extra energy than a lizard running on a hardwood floor
That's what I would've guessed too...any aircraft that can fly and/or perform a go around on only 25% of its designed thrust seems over-engineered to me. But I have nothing solid to refute it, and Schreechjet seems to have at least some 2nd hand knowledge, so not going to say he's wrong. [shrug] In King Airs you can't even perform a single engine go-around once you roll flaps landing....and it's a 2 engine aircraft lol |
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Posted: 1/31/2016 11:42:02 PM EDT
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That's what I would've guessed too...any aircraft that can fly and/or perform a go around on only 25% of its designed thrust seems over-engineered to me. But I have nothing solid to refute it, and Schreechjet seems to have at least some 2nd hand knowledge, so not going to say he's wrong. [shrug] In King Airs you can't even perform a single engine go-around once you roll flaps landing....and it's a 2 engine aircraft lol Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Maybe at a very low altitude and weight. Granted I've never flown a 747, but in the C-17 (as in just about any multi-engine airplane, as you know) we had OEI drift down calculations from normal cruising altitudes, because even with the loss of just one engine we wouldn't be able to maintain normal altitudes. Nothing existed for 3 engines out, except the parachutes. One crew managed to barely land on 2, but it was close. I know of a L1011 that flew from over ABQ at cruise to LAX on a single engine. The crew chose not to divert to ABQ because they didn't have one engine go around performance at 5500 MSL. A 707 could do SE approaches with go around capability if the speeds were maintained in the 200s. If you did a single engine go-around in a B-707 you had best be early, high, light, clean and have more extra energy than a lizard running on a hardwood floor
That's what I would've guessed too...any aircraft that can fly and/or perform a go around on only 25% of its designed thrust seems over-engineered to me. But I have nothing solid to refute it, and Schreechjet seems to have at least some 2nd hand knowledge, so not going to say he's wrong. [shrug] In King Airs you can't even perform a single engine go-around once you roll flaps landing....and it's a 2 engine aircraft lol  Overloaded at ABQ in July?
Granted, there are all types of KingAirs. ...you sure you didn't mean a QueenAir? |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 7:07:58 PM EDT
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Overloaded at ABQ in July?
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If you did a single engine go-around in a B-707 you had best be early, high, light, clean and have more extra energy than a lizard running on a hardwood floor
That's what I would've guessed too...any aircraft that can fly and/or perform a go around on only 25% of its designed thrust seems over-engineered to me. But I have nothing solid to refute it, and Schreechjet seems to have at least some 2nd hand knowledge, so not going to say he's wrong. [shrug] In King Airs you can't even perform a single engine go-around once you roll flaps landing....and it's a 2 engine aircraft lol Overloaded at ABQ in July?
Granted, there are all types of KingAirs. ...you sure you didn't mean a QueenAir? King 350/350ERs. Single engine landing checklist says to delay rolling flaps landing until "no potential for a go-around exists" (or similar wording). We went ahead and interpreted that to mean gear firmly resting on the runway, and always flew our single-engine approaches/landings at takeoff flaps. |
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