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Posted: 12/16/2014 10:48:06 PM EDT
I was one of those who applied OTS in the ATC bid in Feb, I just got my class date today for the academy, mid January!
Looking forward to starting a new career, I wasnt a CTI grad but I am a PPL and Sport Pilot with about 150 hours total, a TW and Complex/HP endorsement, so at least I know how airplanes work  Anyone have any advice? UPDATE: Not only did I pass, I got the top score in my region, so I got first pick. Ill be heading to SBN! |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 11:19:10 PM EDT
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Be one of the good ones.
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Posted: 12/17/2014 3:38:59 AM EDT
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Find a good study group.
Dont be stupid. IM me if you have any questions. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 9:59:14 AM EDT
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Always wanted to do ATC. Just never had the opportunity to go do it. I tried to sign up for classes up in OKC as well when they had the job fair online
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Posted: 12/17/2014 5:16:45 PM EDT
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I was one of those who applied OTS in the ATC bid in Feb, I just got my class date today for the academy, mid January! Looking forward to starting a new career, I wasnt a CTI grad but I am a PPL and Sport Pilot with about 150 hours total, a TW and Complex/HP endorsement, so at least I know how airplanes work
Anyone have any advice? Congrats. I wish I would have taken the Atc route instead of flying them. |
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Posted: 12/19/2014 3:34:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Find a good study group. Dont be stupid. IM me if you have any questions. |
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Posted: 12/19/2014 3:37:40 PM EDT
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Don't follow in my CA footsteps
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Posted: 12/19/2014 11:16:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't follow in my CA footsteps  |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 12:26:46 AM EDT
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Be one of the good ones.
yep |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 3:33:23 PM EDT
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Study, study, study.
When you get out of the Academy is when you really need to buckle down and STUDY. Most training failures are at the facility whether tower or center. Show your trainer and supervisor that you want the job. Get in early, don't take to much time off, did I mention STUDY. Memorize the maps and procedures, don't try to rationalize why they are the way they are. Your pilot experience will be of only marginal help, and then only at the beginning of your training. Good Luck, and STUDY Retired ATCS tower, tracon, and center controller and supervisor. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 3:38:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Study, study, study. When you get out of the Academy is when you really need to buckle down and STUDY. Most training failures are at the facility whether tower or center. Show your trainer and supervisor that you want the job. Get in early, don't take to much time off, did I mention STUDY. Memorize the maps and procedures, don't try to rationalize why they are the way they are. Your pilot experience will be of only marginal help, and then only at the beginning of your training. Good Luck, and STUDY Retired ATCS tower, tracon, and center controller and supervisor. Thanks for the advice! I will be buckling down and getting to work, I understand its not vacation time.
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Posted: 12/21/2014 4:47:39 PM EDT
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Thanks for the advice! I will be buckling down and getting to work, I understand its not vacation time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Study, study, study. When you get out of the Academy is when you really need to buckle down and STUDY. Most training failures are at the facility whether tower or center. Show your trainer and supervisor that you want the job. Get in early, don't take to much time off, did I mention STUDY. Memorize the maps and procedures, don't try to rationalize why they are the way they are. Your pilot experience will be of only marginal help, and then only at the beginning of your training. Good Luck, and STUDY Retired ATCS tower, tracon, and center controller and supervisor. Thanks for the advice! I will be buckling down and getting to work, I understand its not vacation time. He nailed it |
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Posted: 12/22/2014 8:54:53 AM EDT
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When you have questions or concerns, don't hesitate to email me.
It's not a job for everyone. The shift work is horrible on you and family. But. if you enjoy 3 d puzzles, you'll like it. |
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Posted: 12/23/2014 8:02:01 AM EDT
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Terminal, rtf or enroute?y
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Posted: 12/23/2014 12:00:33 PM EDT
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Terminal, rtf or enroute?y Initial training, where they don't tell you where you're going anymore. Highest score at the end gets first pick from a list, next highest gets second pick, and so on. |
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Posted: 12/23/2014 12:02:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Initial training, where they don't tell you where you're going anymore. Highest score at the end gets first pick from a list, next highest gets second pick, and so on. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Terminal, rtf or enroute?y Initial training, where they don't tell you where you're going anymore. Highest score at the end gets first pick from a list, next highest gets second pick, and so on. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 12:14:18 AM EDT
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they split the classes off into terminal and enroute based on who knows what, i know I wont be going enroute (thank god) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Terminal, rtf or enroute?y Initial training, where they don't tell you where you're going anymore. Highest score at the end gets first pick from a list, next highest gets second pick, and so on. Forgot about the going to basics part. As others have said study. Kim's place is a great way to get a study group together, it's also a great way to get a party group together. Both happen frequently. Make it a good balance. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 12:20:55 AM EDT
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I was one of those who applied OTS in the ATC bid in Feb, I just got my class date today for the academy, mid January! Looking forward to starting a new career, I wasnt a CTI grad but I am a PPL and Sport Pilot with about 150 hours total, a TW and Complex/HP endorsement, so at least I know how airplanes work
Anyone have any advice? This in no b.s. shoot me a name and phone number. IM My dad taught at Mike Monroney for decades. Ill have him call you with advice. Txl |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 4:23:13 AM EDT
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Another controller here, things have changed a lot but make sure you know your shit. STUDY and have a GOOD ATTITUDE. I was asked to train a developmental that was on an extension after failing their 100% check ride on Clearance. I don't see him much and,as we headed upstairs, I asked him what his weak spots were. He started mouthing off about how development B failed a check ride and he didn't have to go through remedial training but I will its BS so on and so forth. Guy didn't have any idea of what our LOAs stated, he was more interested in playing ping pong in the break room...
Hit me up if you have any questions, I was in OKC in 2007 and 2008. |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 5:30:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This in no b.s. shoot me a name and phone number. IM My dad taught at Mike Monroney for decades. Ill have him call you with advice. Txl Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I was one of those who applied OTS in the ATC bid in Feb, I just got my class date today for the academy, mid January! Looking forward to starting a new career, I wasnt a CTI grad but I am a PPL and Sport Pilot with about 150 hours total, a TW and Complex/HP endorsement, so at least I know how airplanes work Anyone have any advice? This in no b.s. shoot me a name and phone number. IM My dad taught at Mike Monroney for decades. Ill have him call you with advice. Txl |
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Posted: 1/2/2015 11:38:12 AM EDT
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I went through RTF IN 2007. If I can be of help let me know.
How many FAA controllers do we have here in ARFCOM? |
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Posted: 1/2/2015 11:54:58 AM EDT
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I went through RTF IN 2007. If I can be of help let me know. How many FAA controllers do we have here in ARFCOM? Quite a few |
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Posted: 1/2/2015 12:26:47 PM EDT
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Anyone near DFW? I am looking to get there.
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Posted: 1/5/2015 11:28:16 PM EDT
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Anyone near DFW? I am looking to get there. I'm sure D10 always needs people! 
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Posted: 1/6/2015 3:37:41 PM EDT
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 Hoping to go the same route in a couple of years when my military ATC stint is up.
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Posted: 2/16/2015 10:03:24 PM EDT
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Op, how is everything going? I went through the academy for tower last spring, and I'll be back for RTF hopefully in the next few months. I guess I was one of the last classes where I knew where I was going before I went to OKC. (I was CTI)
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Posted: 3/8/2015 2:53:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Op, how is everything going? I went through the academy for tower last spring, and I'll be back for RTF hopefully in the next few months. I guess I was one of the last classes where I knew where I was going before I went to OKC. (I was CTI) |
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Posted: 3/8/2015 9:57:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its going really well! basics was easy, ended up with 133/136 on the final, im in the academics portion of the tower cab class, grinding it out, have a 93% avg so far. Cant wait to get into labs! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Op, how is everything going? I went through the academy for tower last spring, and I'll be back for RTF hopefully in the next few months. I guess I was one of the last classes where I knew where I was going before I went to OKC. (I was CTI) |
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Posted: 3/11/2015 7:10:42 PM EDT
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Hoping to go the same route in a couple of years when my military ATC stint is up.I've had a lot of my folks jumping ship lately for the FAA. SSgt manning is projected to go from 130% to 104% in the next 6 months in AMC. I anticipate it dropping further without the AF offering a bonus. |
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Posted: 3/12/2015 6:50:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How are things weighted point wise? For us it was like 90% PV scores, and 10% from the classroom. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Op, how is everything going? I went through the academy for tower last spring, and I'll be back for RTF hopefully in the next few months. I guess I was one of the last classes where I knew where I was going before I went to OKC. (I was CTI) |
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Posted: 3/12/2015 8:04:02 PM EDT
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This new system seems interesting
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Posted: 3/13/2015 8:43:26 PM EDT
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How are things weighted point wise? For us it was like 90% PV scores, and 10% from the classroom. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Op, how is everything going? I went through the academy for tower last spring, and I'll be back for RTF hopefully in the next few months. I guess I was one of the last classes where I knew where I was going before I went to OKC. (I was CTI) Got back from RTF a few weeks ago. In there the written tests are worth 2% total, with the other 98‰ divided between 3 PV runs. RTF is actually pretty easy, especially with the lack of pressure of losing your job. I know it will be going pass/fail for new hires, but I don't know how it will be implemented. |
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Posted: 3/20/2015 3:17:49 PM EDT
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I've been hearing about RTF being pass/fail for the new hires since 2007, sure seems to take a while to get to it...
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Posted: 3/24/2015 6:53:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've been hearing about RTF being pass/fail for the new hires since 2007, sure seems to take a while to get to it... |
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Posted: 3/24/2015 6:54:24 PM EDT
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welp, finished academics, i had a 93 and change pct avg overall. I think that puts me 4th or 5th in my class. On to the TSS, its been a blast so far! I love this job and im happy to be here.
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Posted: 3/27/2015 11:26:17 PM EDT
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welp, finished academics, i had a 93 and change pct avg overall. I think that puts me 4th or 5th in my class. On to the TSS, its been a blast so far! I love this job and im happy to be here. Nice job. The TSS can be a grind at some points. The voice recognition software can be a PITA. If you start talking fast to the computer, it will start giving you garbage back. If you feel like you are getting behind, don't talk faster, you will only dig a bigger hole. Slow down and play the computer's game. Once it clicks, its a hell of a lot of fun. |
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Posted: 3/28/2015 8:50:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice job. The TSS can be a grind at some points. The voice recognition software can be a PITA. If you start talking fast to the computer, it will start giving you garbage back. If you feel like you are getting behind, don't talk faster, you will only dig a bigger hole. Slow down and play the computer's game. Once it clicks, its a hell of a lot of fun. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: welp, finished academics, i had a 93 and change pct avg overall. I think that puts me 4th or 5th in my class. On to the TSS, its been a blast so far! I love this job and im happy to be here. Nice job. The TSS can be a grind at some points. The voice recognition software can be a PITA. If you start talking fast to the computer, it will start giving you garbage back. If you feel like you are getting behind, don't talk faster, you will only dig a bigger hole. Slow down and play the computer's game. Once it clicks, its a hell of a lot of fun. I've always enjoyed the simulators despite most people hating them.I'm anxiously awaiting the results from the recent prior experience FAA announcement. |
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Posted: 3/28/2015 9:52:35 PM EDT
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Nice job. The TSS can be a grind at some points. The voice recognition software can be a PITA. If you start talking fast to the computer, it will start giving you garbage back. If you feel like you are getting behind, don't talk faster, you will only dig a bigger hole. Slow down and play the computer's game. Once it clicks, its a hell of a lot of fun. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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welp, finished academics, i had a 93 and change pct avg overall. I think that puts me 4th or 5th in my class. On to the TSS, its been a blast so far! I love this job and im happy to be here. Nice job. The TSS can be a grind at some points. The voice recognition software can be a PITA. If you start talking fast to the computer, it will start giving you garbage back. If you feel like you are getting behind, don't talk faster, you will only dig a bigger hole. Slow down and play the computer's game. Once it clicks, its a hell of a lot of fun. The TSS hated the way I say Navajo. It couldn't read it |
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Posted: 3/29/2015 2:26:26 PM EDT
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welp, finished academics, i had a 93 and change pct avg overall. I think that puts me 4th or 5th in my class. On to the TSS, its been a blast so far! I love this job and im happy to be here. Nice job. The TSS can be a grind at some points. The voice recognition software can be a PITA. If you start talking fast to the computer, it will start giving you garbage back. If you feel like you are getting behind, don't talk faster, you will only dig a bigger hole. Slow down and play the computer's game. Once it clicks, its a hell of a lot of fun. The TSS hated the way I say Navajo. It couldn't read it My tech school class was half foreigners so the TSS had an aneurysm on a daily basis. I thought the TSS was fun though, and the Keesler ones usually ran pretty well. The TSS here is garbage though, voice doesn't work at all so someone has to fly the whole thing and play pilot. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 2:50:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The TSS hated the way I say Navajo. It couldn't read it Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: welp, finished academics, i had a 93 and change pct avg overall. I think that puts me 4th or 5th in my class. On to the TSS, its been a blast so far! I love this job and im happy to be here. Nice job. The TSS can be a grind at some points. The voice recognition software can be a PITA. If you start talking fast to the computer, it will start giving you garbage back. If you feel like you are getting behind, don't talk faster, you will only dig a bigger hole. Slow down and play the computer's game. Once it clicks, its a hell of a lot of fun. The TSS hated the way I say Navajo. It couldn't read it |
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Posted: 4/9/2015 3:08:29 PM EDT
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I thought this might be sort of relevant to this thread. I just got my tentative offer letter from the prior ATC announcement in February.
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Posted: 4/9/2015 10:13:34 PM EDT
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I thought this might be sort of relevant to this thread. I just got my tentative offer letter from the prior ATC announcement in February. Nice. Congrats |
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Posted: 4/9/2015 10:21:26 PM EDT
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Got my list of choices. Depending on class rank I can take SHV, CID, SBN, HUF, LAN, or ABI. Anyone know anything about these? The rapcon at SHV would be cool I think, but not living in LA
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Posted: 4/10/2015 2:19:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Got my list of choices. Depending on class rank I can take SHV, CID, SBN, HUF, LAN, or ABI. Anyone know anything about these? The rapcon at SHV would be cool I think, but not living in LA |
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Posted: 4/10/2015 8:01:46 AM EDT
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Got my list of choices. Depending on class rank I can take SHV, CID, SBN, HUF, LAN, or ABI. Anyone know anything about these? The rapcon at SHV would be cool I think, but not living in LA Out of those I'd probably pick SBN. Nice town not far from Chicago. |
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Posted: 4/10/2015 1:54:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Out of those I'd probably pick SBN. Nice town not far from Chicago. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Got my list of choices. Depending on class rank I can take SHV, CID, SBN, HUF, LAN, or ABI. Anyone know anything about these? The rapcon at SHV would be cool I think, but not living in LA Out of those I'd probably pick SBN. Nice town not far from Chicago. |
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Posted: 4/10/2015 2:09:56 PM EDT
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Got my list of choices. Depending on class rank I can take SHV, CID, SBN, HUF, LAN, or ABI. Anyone know anything about these? The rapcon at SHV would be cool I think, but not living in LA Ha! SHV would be my only choice on that list! And I don't even like it up in North LA!
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Posted: 4/10/2015 6:12:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ha! SHV would be my only choice on that list! And I don't even like it up in North LA! RC Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Got my list of choices. Depending on class rank I can take SHV, CID, SBN, HUF, LAN, or ABI. Anyone know anything about these? The rapcon at SHV would be cool I think, but not living in LA Ha! SHV would be my only choice on that list! And I don't even like it up in North LA! RC |
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Posted: 4/11/2015 1:16:22 AM EDT
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Got my list of choices. Depending on class rank I can take SHV, CID, SBN, HUF, LAN, or ABI. Anyone know anything about these? The rapcon at SHV would be cool I think, but not living in LA How much time do you have to make a decision? |
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Posted: 4/11/2015 1:07:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How much time do you have to make a decision? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Got my list of choices. Depending on class rank I can take SHV, CID, SBN, HUF, LAN, or ABI. Anyone know anything about these? The rapcon at SHV would be cool I think, but not living in LA How much time do you have to make a decision? Well, we finish evals wed so I should know my class rank by then, then we get to pick Thursday morning. So not much time at all. |
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Posted: 4/11/2015 2:19:14 PM EDT
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Well, we finish evals wed so I should know my class rank by then, then we get to pick Thursday morning. So not much time at all. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Got my list of choices. Depending on class rank I can take SHV, CID, SBN, HUF, LAN, or ABI. Anyone know anything about these? The rapcon at SHV would be cool I think, but not living in LA How much time do you have to make a decision? Well, we finish evals wed so I should know my class rank by then, then we get to pick Thursday morning. So not much time at all. It may be worth the effort to get a hold of the Facrep for your top couple choices and get as much info about the facility (nnumber of trainees there, how long the program takes, where their cpcs go after they check out (some facilities are known pipelines to bigger places), and how things are at the facility. |
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