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Posted: 3/15/2014 5:58:51 PM EDT
Get off your asses and apply. Doesnt this shit look like fun?
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Posted: 3/15/2014 6:02:00 PM EDT
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Fun times.
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Posted: 3/15/2014 6:18:56 PM EDT
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You could be cool as fuck and do this:
Or cool as fuck and do this:
Or be all “gun pilot” in one of these:
Or get your air assault or MEDEVAC in on one of these:
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Posted: 3/15/2014 6:36:15 PM EDT
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If I wasnt flying clunky ol fixed wing I would. Rotorcraft looks like a hoot.
I tried to get a buddy to do woft. But he didn't have the balls. |
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Posted: 3/15/2014 9:17:44 PM EDT
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How's your back?
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Posted: 3/15/2014 9:19:04 PM EDT
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How's your back? Better now that I fly Chinooks 
Neck still hurts |
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Posted: 3/15/2014 9:31:11 PM EDT
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Think I'll stick to Powerpoint & email. My world doesn't end w/ the power goes out. Stay up there!
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Posted: 3/16/2014 4:13:31 PM EDT
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Well, I'll find out in May if I get to.
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Posted: 3/16/2014 4:16:51 PM EDT
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Also, my flight physical said no Kiowas, I'm too tall
 . Not that it matters anymore
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Posted: 3/16/2014 4:26:54 PM EDT
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Also, my flight physical said no Kiowas, I'm too tall . Not that it matters anymore So did mine and I chose them anyway.
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Posted: 3/16/2014 5:56:44 PM EDT
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IERW starts in 2 weeks. Can't wait!
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Posted: 3/16/2014 7:31:33 PM EDT
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Hoping to have my package in for the next board. Leaving my job to finish it in time, starting tomorrow. Going to get my instrument and sport CFI immediately after my package is complete.
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Posted: 3/16/2014 7:33:46 PM EDT
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Where are the HUEY video's????
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Posted: 3/16/2014 7:43:55 PM EDT
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Where are the HUEY video's???? I though only that Air Force had real hueys still. |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 7:46:43 PM EDT
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IERW starts in 2 weeks. Can't wait! Just finish SERE? |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 8:08:18 PM EDT
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IERW starts in 2 weeks. Can't wait! Just finish SERE? BOLC. I was a SERE Dunker bypass. |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 8:11:23 PM EDT
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BOLC. I was a SERE Dunker bypass. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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IERW starts in 2 weeks. Can't wait! Just finish SERE? BOLC. I was a SERE Dunker bypass. Oh nice. Well, have fun in Aeromed. Flight line will be a blast. |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 8:15:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I though only that Air Force had real hueys still. And the Marines, and the State Department... |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 8:16:09 PM EDT
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Oh nice. Well, have fun in Aeromed. Flight line will be a blast. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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IERW starts in 2 weeks. Can't wait! Just finish SERE? BOLC. I was a SERE Dunker bypass. Oh nice. Well, have fun in Aeromed. Flight line will be a blast. I'm totally stoked about being up early for flight line with a newborn. But yea, I cannot wait for my first flight.
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Posted: 3/16/2014 8:41:02 PM EDT
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Dude in my Chinook class had newborn twins. He was bleary eyed quite a bit
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Posted: 3/17/2014 5:39:06 PM EDT
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Dude in my Chinook class had newborn twins. He was bleary eyed quite a bit God bless him. Twins...... We're thankful his birth worked out in a bubble so we could enjoy paternity leave. It's been an eye opening and truly awesome experience. I'm kinda sad I'm not going to be able to spend more time with him once I start flight line. |
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Posted: 3/18/2014 5:41:30 AM EDT
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Gah, would loved to have done that. Ended up staying the civil flying route, got married, had kids and got too old. A few years back one of our new-hire rotor pilots (I was EMS at the time) was the unit commander (???) for a UH60 NG outfit and said they needed folks and he could probably get me a shot.
 I started researching it pretty heavily and was seriously considering it as, at the time, I was still of age... wife vetoed it big time. Fun killer.
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Posted: 3/20/2014 4:16:00 PM EDT
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I'm 30 and hate my job. Any reason I shouldn't look into this?
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Posted: 3/20/2014 7:25:24 PM EDT
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I'm 30 and hate my job. Any reason I shouldn't look into this? Do it. I have 4 street to seat guys in my class and they all say it was the best decision they've ever made. Lots of good info at link. http://helicopterforum.verticalreference.com/forum/32-general-military-helicopter-discussions/ |
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Posted: 3/20/2014 7:34:48 PM EDT
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What would you say about going the officer route?
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Posted: 3/20/2014 7:41:08 PM EDT
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What would you say about going the officer route? RLO aviation branch? Great if you want to lead and having flying as an additional duty. CWOs fly more. Its the way it is. |
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Posted: 3/20/2014 7:41:52 PM EDT
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RLO aviation branch? Great if you want to lead and having flying as an additional duty. CWOs fly more. Its the way it is. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What would you say about going the officer route? RLO aviation branch? Great if you want to lead and having flying as an additional duty. CWOs fly more. Its the way it is. Cool cool, thanks man |
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Posted: 3/20/2014 7:53:11 PM EDT
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I'm 30 and hate my job. Any reason I shouldn't look into this? A lot of people hate their job. What are your goals? Defying gravity is cool but that's not "the job". It's just something you have to be able to do very well to be capable of doing "the job". |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 2:21:12 AM EDT
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A lot of people hate their job. What are your goals? Defying gravity is cool but that's not "the job". It's just something you have to be able to do very well to be capable of doing "the job". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm 30 and hate my job. Any reason I shouldn't look into this? A lot of people hate their job. What are your goals? Defying gravity is cool but that's not "the job". It's just something you have to be able to do very well to be capable of doing "the job". The only goal I really have at the moment is to find a job that will allow me to provide for my family and actually feel useful in life. I'm working a deadend job in the automotive business and I'm tired of being paid on commission. I've always loved aviation and at one time I was very close to entering the military. It's always been something I've regretted to a degree, but I never would have met my wife otherwise. As I'm scrambling to find a decent job to get out of where I'm at, the WOFT idea keeps coming back. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 4:38:27 AM EDT
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I have a question. How hard is the math aspect of this training? I won't lie, when they start adding letters in with numbers, I go full derp
 . My job calls for detailed math but it's all formulas and hard to mess up when you get it figured out.
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Posted: 3/21/2014 4:39:27 AM EDT
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There is little math at all. Adding up a quick hand jammed PPC, or reciprocal headings. That is pretty much it.
If there is cockpit math, you have an E6B. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 5:22:49 AM EDT
[#31]
But I want to fly 58's :(
I'm prior service, would I have to do basic? Or just WOCS and then FT? |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 5:25:48 AM EDT
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But I want to fly 58's :( I'm prior service, would I have to do basic? Or just WOCS and then FT? Should just be WOCS and then into the B co meat grinder. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 5:33:46 AM EDT
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Should just be WOCS and then into the B co meat grinder. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But I want to fly 58's :( I'm prior service, would I have to do basic? Or just WOCS and then FT? Should just be WOCS and then into the B co meat grinder. Intredasting |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 5:36:00 AM EDT
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Start to finish, how long will it take to get from school to the first duty station?
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Posted: 3/21/2014 5:39:08 AM EDT
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Start to finish, how long will it take to get from school to the first duty station? 18-24 months from Day 1 of WOCS to PCS. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 6:10:54 AM EDT
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Tempting. What does it take to get into the 160th?
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Posted: 3/21/2014 6:28:50 AM EDT
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I have a question. How hard is the math aspect of this training? I won't lie, when they start adding letters in with numbers, I go full derp . My job calls for detailed math but it's all formulas and hard to mess up when you get it figured out.CFII is right. There is no complex mental math required. You need to be able to do simple addition and subtraction in your head quickly. (For example: 100-78=22 and 78+15=93) You need to be able to divide numbers by 2 or 3 and multiply numbers by 2 or 3 in your head. (ie: 2/3 of 15=10 and 5x3=15) You need to be able to tell time by analog clock and do simple time math. (ie: It's 17:15 and in 1:47 minutes it'll be 19:02) That's about it. For anything else you'll have time for a calculator and you'll have the E-6B. I wish I could say that I don't run into iPhone generation students that struggle with such simple, real world, life skills but I do. And it technology makes it worse every year. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 6:34:24 AM EDT
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CFII is right. There is no complex mental math required. You need to be able to do simple addition and subtraction in your head quickly. (For example: 100-78=22 and 78+15=93) You need to be able to divide numbers by 2 or 3 and multiply numbers by 2 or 3 in your head. (ie: 2/3 of 15=10 and 5x3=15) You need to be able to tell time by analog clock and do simple time math. (ie: It's 17:15 and in 1:47 minutes it'll be 19:02) That's about it. For anything else you'll have time for a calculator and you'll have the E-6B. I wish I could say that I don't run into iPhone generation students that struggle with such simple, real world, life skills but I do. And it technology makes it worse every year. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a question. How hard is the math aspect of this training? I won't lie, when they start adding letters in with numbers, I go full derp . My job calls for detailed math but it's all formulas and hard to mess up when you get it figured out.CFII is right. There is no complex mental math required. You need to be able to do simple addition and subtraction in your head quickly. (For example: 100-78=22 and 78+15=93) You need to be able to divide numbers by 2 or 3 and multiply numbers by 2 or 3 in your head. (ie: 2/3 of 15=10 and 5x3=15) You need to be able to tell time by analog clock and do simple time math. (ie: It's 17:15 and in 1:47 minutes it'll be 19:02) That's about it. For anything else you'll have time for a calculator and you'll have the E-6B. I wish I could say that I don't run into iPhone generation students that struggle with such simple, real world, life skills but I do. And it technology makes it worse every year. Imagine what instructing in the Lakota will be like
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Posted: 3/21/2014 6:49:17 AM EDT
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Cockpit technology is awesome. The more tools to help you do the job the better.
Not being able to accomplish simple, real world, life functions without accessing your smart phone is not awesome. Yes. Recently, there was a student who made it all the way to BWS before somebody finally identified the fact that he could not read an analog clock. At all. That one blew my mind. And when we're trying to knock out a hover power check and the answer to my question of "Our indicated hover torque is 78. The Max Torque available is 100. What's the spread?" is... "Oh man I suck at math..." My response will be "Tough shit. That's the job. You've got 5 seconds to figure it out." |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 6:52:01 AM EDT
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Cant read an analog clock? WTF
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Posted: 3/21/2014 6:58:46 AM EDT
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Cant read an analog clock? WTF No shit, right? That student went through Instruments with a different flight so I didn't hear about it until later. After that, I started making sure my students didn't have that issue. (That's not something I could have ever imagined I would have to do). And since then I did have a young 2LT who, admittedly, struggled with it at first. We rectified that immediately and he ended up doing well enough. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 7:29:34 AM EDT
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The only goal I really have at the moment is to find a job that will allow me to provide for my family and actually feel useful in life. I'm working a deadend job in the automotive business and I'm tired of being paid on commission. I've always loved aviation and at one time I was very close to entering the military. It's always been something I've regretted to a degree, but I never would have met my wife otherwise. As I'm scrambling to find a decent job to get out of where I'm at, the WOFT idea keeps coming back. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm 30 and hate my job. Any reason I shouldn't look into this? A lot of people hate their job. What are your goals? Defying gravity is cool but that's not "the job". It's just something you have to be able to do very well to be capable of doing "the job". The only goal I really have at the moment is to find a job that will allow me to provide for my family and actually feel useful in life. I'm working a deadend job in the automotive business and I'm tired of being paid on commission. I've always loved aviation and at one time I was very close to entering the military. It's always been something I've regretted to a degree, but I never would have met my wife otherwise. As I'm scrambling to find a decent job to get out of where I'm at, the WOFT idea keeps coming back. Nothing you wrote would preclude you from doing it. If you're truly interested, you need to shit or get off the pot, though, because you're already 30 and the clock's ticking. Expect a minimum of 8-12 months from paperwork start to actually being in the Army if selected. I'm sure someone will be along to say that it only took them 6 months.. blah blah blah... but that would be atypical. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 7:53:04 AM EDT
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Talk to me about pay. I highly doubt I'll be making what I make now as a civilian rotor pilot, but what does a WO1 on flight status pay a year?
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Posted: 3/21/2014 8:52:30 AM EDT
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CFII is right. There is no complex mental math required. You need to be able to do simple addition and subtraction in your head quickly. (For example: 100-78=22 and 78+15=93) You need to be able to divide numbers by 2 or 3 and multiply numbers by 2 or 3 in your head. (ie: 2/3 of 15=10 and 5x3=15) You need to be able to tell time by analog clock and do simple time math. (ie: It's 17:15 and in 1:47 minutes it'll be 19:02) That's about it. For anything else you'll have time for a calculator and you'll have the E-6B. I wish I could say that I don't run into iPhone generation students that struggle with such simple, real world, life skills but I do. And it technology makes it worse every year. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a question. How hard is the math aspect of this training? I won't lie, when they start adding letters in with numbers, I go full derp . My job calls for detailed math but it's all formulas and hard to mess up when you get it figured out.CFII is right. There is no complex mental math required. You need to be able to do simple addition and subtraction in your head quickly. (For example: 100-78=22 and 78+15=93) You need to be able to divide numbers by 2 or 3 and multiply numbers by 2 or 3 in your head. (ie: 2/3 of 15=10 and 5x3=15) You need to be able to tell time by analog clock and do simple time math. (ie: It's 17:15 and in 1:47 minutes it'll be 19:02) That's about it. For anything else you'll have time for a calculator and you'll have the E-6B. I wish I could say that I don't run into iPhone generation students that struggle with such simple, real world, life skills but I do. And it technology makes it worse every year. What's bad is my generation (28 years old) was all taught on scientific calculators. Simple math has not been used without a calculator in many many year. I can do it just not as fast as I used to be able to. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 2:45:57 PM EDT
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Talk to me about pay. I highly doubt I'll be making what I make now as a civilian rotor pilot, but what does a WO1 on flight status pay a year? WO1 pay kinda sucks. When you hit 3 years time in service and CW2, it gets much better. There are online pay charts. Just google "military pay calculator 2014" |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 3:32:49 PM EDT
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WO1 pay kinda sucks. When you hit 3 years time in service and CW2, it gets much better. There are online pay charts. Just google "military pay calculator 2014" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Talk to me about pay. I highly doubt I'll be making what I make now as a civilian rotor pilot, but what does a WO1 on flight status pay a year? WO1 pay kinda sucks. When you hit 3 years time in service and CW2, it gets much better. There are online pay charts. Just google "military pay calculator 2014" Forgot about pay charts. WO pay is bad. I make W5 with 24+ years of service currently.... |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 3:40:21 PM EDT
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Even with BAH? Our housing allotment is tax free.
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Posted: 3/21/2014 3:49:35 PM EDT
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Ain't no recruiters in here, google it.
If you need help with something that basic how will you figure out anything when lives are on the line? Plus if your first question is about pay your motivation is all sorts of wrong. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Talk to me about pay. I highly doubt I'll be making what I make now as a civilian rotor pilot, but what does a WO1 on flight status pay a year? |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 3:56:26 PM EDT
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Ain't no recruiters in here, google it. If you need help with something that basic how will you figure out anything when lives are on the line? Plus if your first question is about pay your motivation is all sorts of wrong. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Ain't no recruiters in here, google it. If you need help with something that basic how will you figure out anything when lives are on the line? Plus if your first question is about pay your motivation is all sorts of wrong. Quoted:
Talk to me about pay. I highly doubt I'll be making what I make now as a civilian rotor pilot, but what does a WO1 on flight status pay a year? Thanks for the lecture clown. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 3:58:28 PM EDT
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Even with BAH? Our housing allotment is tax free. I don't think BAH is going to cover that large of a gap. But no, I didn't figure it in. |
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