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Posted: 5/15/2013 9:34:40 PM
I feel more like I do now than I did when I first got here.
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Posted: 5/15/2013 9:48:03 PM
That's Kent Wein ( Wein air Alaska family). He is great people. I flew with him when he first upgraded to Captain. The only time in my career, that I flew with a Captain younger than I was. His brother is a 737 Captain, and his dad is Very involved with the classic/warbird community.

He told me, he and his brother got to ferry FiFi once with their dad. The highlight of the trip? When ATC asked what kind of Boeing they were in, and he got to answer "we're a SUPERFORTRESS, sir".

He forgot to mention you can use the compass mirror on the glare shield , to check out anyone who is standing in the isle behind the cockpit, if the door is open.
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Posted: 5/15/2013 9:57:57 PM
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Nice. I would love to compare that to the dc9-10.


Eta, thanks nimslow.
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Posted: 5/15/2013 11:07:33 PM
Kind of reminds me of Christoph Waltz for some reason, or Kevin Spacy.
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Posted: 5/16/2013 12:19:50 AM
The S-80 grows on you. When I first got on it, I hated it. But 8000 hours later, I liked it.
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Posted: 5/16/2013 12:30:44 AM
That was cool.
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Posted: 5/16/2013 8:18:21 AM
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Posted: 5/16/2013 4:44:32 PM
Originally Posted By disorientedpilot:
Nice. I would love to compare that to the dc9-10.


Eta, thanks nimslow.


I flew the DC9 at NWA as a Captain for eight years, never flew it as an F/O. Great airplane, the -10 would out climb the F100 and the -50 was as close to the Mad Dog as you could get. Reliable, rugged and radar vectors required. The bad thing, two VOR's and an ADF for navigation (think coffee grinder, in a jet). There were times you didn't know what state you were over...worst day ever was flying over eight hours and nine legs in one day, in a jet, in the same snow storm and never getting out of the state of Michigan.

And they can handle 38kts of crosswind.

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Posted: 5/16/2013 5:03:00 PM
What is the Mad Dog?
I feel more like I do now than I did when I first got here.
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Posted: 5/16/2013 5:37:06 PM
My dad watched this and laughed. He flew the slug back in the 80s. He did point out that when he flew it the cockpit was 100% steam gauges.
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there is no room for free loaders or cowards in a functioning society.
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Posted: 5/16/2013 10:01:53 PM
What's up with the magnetic compass anyway?
I feel more like I do now than I did when I first got here.
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Posted: 5/16/2013 10:15:40 PM
Originally Posted By Sig_Prude:
What is the Mad Dog?


MD-80 series...MD = Mad Dog
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Posted: 5/16/2013 10:32:30 PM
I've flown as a passenger in one, on two legs of a trip.

It was by far the smoothest flight I've ever been on. Awesome ride.


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Posted: 5/16/2013 10:56:03 PM
Been a passenger on the md80's quite a bit. One of my favorite planes, nice old school feel and reminds me of all the flights as a kid
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Posted: 5/18/2013 10:37:45 PM
Originally Posted By Sig_Prude:
What's up with the magnetic compass anyway?


The compass is one of those things that always makes me wonder "what were they thinking"?. My best guess, is that's the best place they could find, to put it, that keeps it away from all the electrical interference, mostly from the heated windscreens.

With all due respect to my friend Kent, he is not totally correct. There are two mirrors used to view the compass.

The Whiskey compass on the DC-9-80 series, is mounted near the ceiling, behind, and to the right, of the first officers head. Facing aft.


The compass is in the front of the cutout square in this picture.


Hard to get a good picture, but it's up in there.


Aft of the compass, facing forward, is a fixed mirror, that reflects the image of the compass forward. That's why the image is reversed, if you look back at the mirror.




Mounted on the top of the glare shield, are two, small, movable mirrors, that we can aim at the fixed mirror, behind the compass. These allow us to have a normal view of the compass rose.




Again..What were they thinking?
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Posted: 5/19/2013 1:13:34 PM
Originally Posted By Dr_Nimslow:
Originally Posted By Sig_Prude:
What's up with the magnetic compass anyway?


The compass is one of those things that always makes me wonder "what were they thinking"?. My best guess, is that's the best place they could find, to put it, that keeps it away from all the electrical interference, mostly from the heated windscreens.

With all due respect to my friend Kent, he is not totally correct. There are two mirrors used to view the compass.

The Whiskey compass on the DC-9-80 series, is mounted near the ceiling, behind, and to the right, of the first officers head. Facing aft.


The compass is in the front of the cutout square in this picture.
<a href="http://s21.photobucket.com/user/nimslow/media/cmp2_zpsbe3873e6.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/nimslow/cmp2_zpsbe3873e6.jpg</a>

Hard to get a good picture, but it's up in there.
<a href="http://s21.photobucket.com/user/nimslow/media/cmp1_zps26787b1a.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/nimslow/cmp1_zps26787b1a.jpg</a>

Aft of the compass, facing forward, is a fixed mirror, that reflects the image of the compass forward. That's why the image is reversed, if you look back at the mirror.
<a href="http://s21.photobucket.com/user/nimslow/media/cmp6_zps1d7318ba.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/nimslow/cmp6_zps1d7318ba.jpg</a>

<a href="http://s21.photobucket.com/user/nimslow/media/cmp5_zps3cc8c227.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/nimslow/cmp5_zps3cc8c227.jpg</a>

Mounted on the top of the glare shield, are two, small, movable mirrors, that we can aim at the fixed mirror, behind the compass. These allow us to have a normal view of the compass rose.
<a href="http://s21.photobucket.com/user/nimslow/media/cmp3_zpsf064a831.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/nimslow/cmp3_zpsf064a831.jpg</a>

<a href="http://s21.photobucket.com/user/nimslow/media/cmp4_zpsdbfff141.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/nimslow/cmp4_zpsdbfff141.jpg</a>

Again..What were they thinking?


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Posted: 5/19/2013 1:53:56 PM
Thats pretty cool Dr Nimslow... My family has flown both the MD and most models of the 9, but hadn't mentioned the whiskey compass.

You could put something like that in that little fighter of yours if you get bored.
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Posted: 5/19/2013 6:40:40 PM
Originally Posted By cmjohnson:
I've flown as a passenger in one, on two legs of a trip.

It was by far the smoothest flight I've ever been on. Awesome ride.




Smooth ride is pretty much a function of weather conditions.
I feel more like I do now than I did when I first got here.
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Posted: 5/19/2013 9:27:19 PM
Originally Posted By Dr_Nimslow:
Originally Posted By Sig_Prude:
What's up with the magnetic compass anyway?


The compass is one of those things that always makes me wonder "what were they thinking"?. My best guess, is that's the best place they could find, to put it, that keeps it away from all the electrical interference, mostly from the heated windscreens.


The whiskey compass is my aircraft will spin about 45 degrees off when I flip on the landing light or spotlight. Makes sense to remote mount it......or at least the sensor on the newer ones.
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Posted: 5/20/2013 3:02:12 PM
Originally Posted By Sig_Prude:
Originally Posted By cmjohnson:
I've flown as a passenger in one, on two legs of a trip.

It was by far the smoothest flight I've ever been on. Awesome ride.




Smooth ride is pretty much a function of weather conditions.


And wing loading.
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Posted: 5/20/2013 7:23:37 PM
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Originally Posted By Dr_Nimslow:
Originally Posted By Sig_Prude:
What's up with the magnetic compass anyway?


The compass is one of those things that always makes me wonder "what were they thinking"?. My best guess, is that's the best place they could find, to put it, that keeps it away from all the electrical interference, mostly from the heated windscreens.

With all due respect to my friend Kent, he is not totally correct. There are two mirrors used to view the compass.

The Whiskey compass on the DC-9-80 series, is mounted near the ceiling, behind, and to the right, of the first officers head. Facing aft.


The compass is in the front of the cutout square in this picture.
<a href="http://s21.photobucket.com/user/nimslow/media/cmp2_zpsbe3873e6.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/nimslow/cmp2_zpsbe3873e6.jpg</a>

Hard to get a good picture, but it's up in there.
<a href="http://s21.photobucket.com/user/nimslow/media/cmp1_zps26787b1a.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/nimslow/cmp1_zps26787b1a.jpg</a>

Aft of the compass, facing forward, is a fixed mirror, that reflects the image of the compass forward. That's why the image is reversed, if you look back at the mirror.
<a href="http://s21.photobucket.com/user/nimslow/media/cmp6_zps1d7318ba.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/nimslow/cmp6_zps1d7318ba.jpg</a>

<a href="http://s21.photobucket.com/user/nimslow/media/cmp5_zps3cc8c227.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/nimslow/cmp5_zps3cc8c227.jpg</a>

Mounted on the top of the glare shield, are two, small, movable mirrors, that we can aim at the fixed mirror, behind the compass. These allow us to have a normal view of the compass rose.
<a href="http://s21.photobucket.com/user/nimslow/media/cmp3_zpsf064a831.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/nimslow/cmp3_zpsf064a831.jpg</a>

<a href="http://s21.photobucket.com/user/nimslow/media/cmp4_zpsdbfff141.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/nimslow/cmp4_zpsdbfff141.jpg</a>

Again..What were they thinking?


Almost looks like TUL but not quite. AA for sure.
Edit; maybe not. I thought we had replaced all the silver covered insulation.
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Posted: 5/21/2013 6:12:07 PM
I forgot to add: do not pull the wrong handle in the back of the airplane for the air stairs.

It is the only aircraft that I know that has ice on the wings after refueling during the summer.
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Posted: 5/21/2013 6:39:09 PM
Originally Posted By AR18:
I forgot to add: do not pull the wrong handle in the back of the airplane for the air stairs.

It is the only aircraft that I know that has ice on the wings after refueling during the summer.


What happens if you pull the wrong handle?
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Posted: 5/21/2013 7:34:26 PM
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Originally Posted By M82Assault:
Originally Posted By AR18:
I forgot to add: do not pull the wrong handle in the back of the airplane for the air stairs.

It is the only aircraft that I know that has ice on the wings after refueling during the summer.


What happens if you pull the wrong handle?


Eject the tail cone.

Edit; oh yeah and escape slide for the cabin out the tail!!
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Posted: 5/21/2013 7:35:49 PM
Originally Posted By Dr_Nimslow:
That's Kent Wein ( Wein air Alaska family). He is great people. I flew with him when he first upgraded to Captain. The only time in my career, that I flew with a Captain younger than I was. His brother is a 737 Captain, and his dad is Very involved with the classic/warbird community.

He told me, he and his brother got to ferry FiFi once with their dad. The highlight of the trip? When ATC asked what kind of Boeing they were in, and he got to answer "we're a SUPERFORTRESS, sir".

He forgot to mention you can use the compass mirror on the glare shield , to check out anyone who is standing in the isle behind the cockpit, if the door is open.



Kent Wein also did the U2-Vertigo "Three day trip from a pilot's point of view" several years ago:


Pretty accurate, too.. :)








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Posted: 5/21/2013 7:39:22 PM


Oh and to the original video.. that is an incredible throttle quadrant. A lot of shit going on there!




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