Brohawk Dilettante-At-Large Team Member Joined: Apr 2003  SC, USA Posts: 22089 Feedback: 100% (3)	Posted: 8/5/2012 1:29:38 PM THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT Apparently they were going to take this Victor for a high speed taxi as part of an airshow and the airplane said, "I want to fly." According to the story, there was an inexperienced engineer who was driving it for the demo. When it went airborne an old hand took over and salvaged what came close to being a smoking ball of fire.
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Brohawk Dilettante-At-Large Team Member Joined: Apr 2003  SC, USA Posts: 22090 Feedback: 100% (3) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/5/2012 1:44:45 PM Video with commentary by the man who landed it.
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Frank_The_Tank Disjointed Member Team Member Joined: May 2006  USA Posts: 10436 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/5/2012 3:31:45 PM Lol. Very lucky. Maybe they should have just taken it around the patch.
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H60ADriver Member Joined: Dec 2011  MI, USA Posts: 109 Feedback: 100% (7) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/5/2012 3:40:40 PM There is no way on God's earth that I would have tried to land that plane at that point in the flight. That being said, hey everyone walks away, nothintg banged up, it's still a win!
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M82Assault We're boned. Team Member Joined: Aug 2009  GA, USA Posts: 2321 Feedback: 100% (2) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/5/2012 3:44:44 PM Originally Posted By H60ADriver: There is no way on God's earth that I would have tried to land that plane at that point in the flight. That being said, hey everyone walks away, nothintg banged up, it's still a win! This. I would have said "fuck it, time to fly for a bit" and firewalled the bitch.
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Posted: 8/5/2012 5:27:50 PM [Last Edit: 8/5/2012 5:38:03 PM by BillofRights] Wow, that took extraordinarily bad judgment to try and land the aircraft on the remaining runway. How long is that strip anyway? That video is one of the worst displays of airmanship that didn't end up in a flaming ball of wreckage. Top five, for sure. The "Pilots" commentary made no sense whatsoever. Co-Pilots hand is on throttle, he doesn't respond, so the "Cpt" takes his hand off the yoke to grab the throttles, which allows the aircraft to rotate? Is that some weird Brit crew coordination? I cant even form a mental picture of what happened. Musta been assholes over elbows.

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Sig_Prude Member Joined: Apr 2008  PA, USA Posts: 1600 Feedback: 100% (8) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/5/2012 6:14:41 PM I wonder when the last time proper maintenance was done on that aircraft? I'm thinking like 20 years ago? He may have had this in the back of his mind when he decided to take his chances putting her down instead of doing what would essentially be a go-around.
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JustinOK34 The bottled beer taste, in a can. Life Member Joined: Mar 2005  OK, USA Posts: 11007 Feedback: 100% (13) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/5/2012 7:16:15 PM Airborne between 15 and 20 seconds after brake release (about 0:45), impressive for something that size. Must've been lightweight, too.
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CFII Kiowa Driver Industry Partner Joined: Oct 2002  AL, USA Posts: 13682 Feedback: 100% (19) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/5/2012 7:31:05 PM Eh, what can I say. I really doubt this was accidental. The aircraft clearly rotated. It flew because it was told to. As for recovering the botched "high speed taxi", hey, aircraft is in one piece, people are uninjured, and the crowd went wild.
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Posted: 8/5/2012 8:10:25 PM Originally Posted By JustinOK34: Airborne between 15 and 20 seconds after brake release (about 0:45), impressive for something that size. Must've been lightweight, too. It likely had merely a sip of fuel in it, just enough to dick around on the ground for the show...another reason the pilot who saved the day may have been very adamant about putting her down as opposed to taking off.

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underdogII Member Team Member Joined: Jan 2012  FL, USA Posts: 174 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/5/2012 9:58:47 PM Originally Posted By CFII: Eh, what can I say. I really doubt this was accidental. The aircraft clearly rotated. It flew because it was told to. As for recovering the botched "high speed taxi", hey, aircraft is in one piece, people are uninjured, and the crowd went wild. Definitely they Yanked back on the bitch.
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Pickle Member Joined: May 2006  KS, USA Posts: 1814 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/6/2012 12:08:46 AM Originally Posted By JustinOK34: Airborne between 15 and 20 seconds after brake release (about 0:45), impressive for something that size. Must've been lightweight, too. Let's call it 1000 hours turbine PIC. Rounding, don't you know.
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DRich Deep in the Boonies... Team Member Joined: Jun 2006  TX, USA Posts: 2284 Feedback: 100% (50) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/6/2012 11:53:54 AM [Last Edit: 8/6/2012 11:54:11 AM by DRich] It would have taken three strong men and a crowbar to pry the seat cushion out of my ass.
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Morne Member Joined: Feb 2008  OH, USA Posts: 782 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/6/2012 7:33:30 PM Beautiful bird. Glad she is alright, crew included.
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Screechjet1 Switched for 200 lbs of dog food on the TPFDD Team Member Joined: Sep 2005  MNG Posts: 24598 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/7/2012 8:26:41 PM Originally Posted By Pickle: Originally Posted By JustinOK34: Airborne between 15 and 20 seconds after brake release (about 0:45), impressive for something that size. Must've been lightweight, too. Let's call it 1000 hours turbine PIC. Rounding, don't you know. I don't have 1000 hours TPIC
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JustinOK34 The bottled beer taste, in a can. Life Member Joined: Mar 2005  OK, USA Posts: 11019 Feedback: 100% (13) Link To This Post

Posted: 8/7/2012 8:37:11 PM Originally Posted By Screechjet1: Originally Posted By Pickle: Originally Posted By JustinOK34: Airborne between 15 and 20 seconds after brake release (about 0:45), impressive for something that size. Must've been lightweight, too. Let's call it 1000 hours turbine PIC. Rounding, don't you know. I don't have 1000 hours TPIC I was totally confused by Pickle's comment. Now I get it. My 0:45 was refering to the elapsed time of the video, not the duration of the "flight".

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esa17 Member Team Member Joined: Jan 2010  MS, USA Posts: 1855 Feedback: 100% (12) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/8/2012 11:51:28 AM If this was an accident it was some piss poor planning. What are those TO briefs again? Engine fail after V1 and we're going! Good job getting her down and stopped but I probably would have taken three minutes to do a pattern and come home.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 12:23:37 PM Originally Posted By esa17: If this was an accident it was some piss poor planning. What are those TO briefs again? Engine fail after V1 and we're going! Good job getting her down and stopped but I probably would have taken three minutes to do a pattern and come home. Again, it's very unlikely that the aircraft was anywhere near airworthy and probably had absolutely MINIMAL fuel in it.

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Posted: 8/8/2012 12:35:52 PM Originally Posted By Sig_Prude: Originally Posted By esa17: If this was an accident it was some piss poor planning. What are those TO briefs again? Engine fail after V1 and we're going! Good job getting her down and stopped but I probably would have taken three minutes to do a pattern and come home. Again, it's very unlikely that the aircraft was anywhere near airworthy and probably had absolutely MINIMAL fuel in it. Thought I read that there were not pilots in the seats? So they probably didn't do a takeoff brief since they weren't planning on taking off. Nonpilots up front in the seats means they were probably shitting bricks when the thing lifted off.

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Posted: 8/8/2012 12:49:52 PM Originally Posted By JustinOK34: Originally Posted By Sig_Prude: Originally Posted By esa17: If this was an accident it was some piss poor planning. What are those TO briefs again? Engine fail after V1 and we're going! Good job getting her down and stopped but I probably would have taken three minutes to do a pattern and come home. Again, it's very unlikely that the aircraft was anywhere near airworthy and probably had absolutely MINIMAL fuel in it. Thought I read that there were not pilots in the seats? So they probably didn't do a takeoff brief since they weren't planning on taking off. Nonpilots up front in the seats means they were probably shitting bricks when the thing lifted off. Didn't hear that. If nobody was sitting up front, who was operating the throttles?

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CFII Kiowa Driver Industry Partner Joined: Oct 2002  AL, USA Posts: 13710 Feedback: 100% (19) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/8/2012 1:01:35 PM I believe it was being taxied by an old RAF bomber pilot and a mechanic.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:50:24 PM Originally Posted By Sig_Prude: Originally Posted By esa17: If this was an accident it was some piss poor planning. What are those TO briefs again? Engine fail after V1 and we're going! Good job getting her down and stopped but I probably would have taken three minutes to do a pattern and come home. Again, it's very unlikely that the aircraft was anywhere near airworthy and probably had absolutely MINIMAL fuel in it. Then don't let it approach flying speed. A blown tire at 80 is still a potentially bad day.

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CFII Kiowa Driver Industry Partner Joined: Oct 2002  AL, USA Posts: 13720 Feedback: 100% (19) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/8/2012 8:53:34 PM It seems the English love to high speed taxi old aircraft at airshows. Seems like messing around with your wife wearing clothes.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 9:32:29 PM Originally Posted By esa17: Originally Posted By Sig_Prude: Originally Posted By esa17: If this was an accident it was some piss poor planning. What are those TO briefs again? Engine fail after V1 and we're going! Good job getting her down and stopped but I probably would have taken three minutes to do a pattern and come home. Again, it's very unlikely that the aircraft was anywhere near airworthy and probably had absolutely MINIMAL fuel in it. Then don't let it approach flying speed. A blown tire at 80 is still a potentially bad day. Agreed.

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