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Posted: 7/3/2012 6:16:05 AM EST
Nothing but a sprained ankle
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Posted: 7/3/2012 6:40:13 AM EST
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He say what happened (other than the obvious )?
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Posted: 7/3/2012 6:57:32 AM EST
lucky, he go buy a lotto ticket also?

seriously glad he is ok
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Posted: 7/3/2012 7:18:53 AM EST

WOW Glad he's safe and sound!

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Posted: 7/3/2012 8:42:56 AM EST
Apparently an accumulator on the prop failed and the prop feathered.......
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Posted: 7/3/2012 11:15:45 AM EST
Originally Posted By chadjetlag:
Apparently an accumulator on the prop failed and the prop feathered.......


Ouch.

In cruise, that wouldn't be all that bad (unless you were over really inhospitable terrain), but while doing aerobatics, it is a serious AW SHIT! moment.

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Posted: 7/3/2012 12:40:22 PM EST
thank heavens it didn't fail to the flat pitch position. I lost two co-workers and a whole plane load of people when a prop pitch change actuator failed and it was 50/50 as to which way it would go...fate that day chose flat pitch.
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Posted: 7/3/2012 5:48:57 PM EST
Why would low pitch be worse?
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Posted: 7/3/2012 7:23:42 PM EST
Usually single engine airplane props fail to flat pitch. Essentially a climb prop. I'd prefer that to feathering!
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Posted: 7/4/2012 4:45:51 AM EST
Originally Posted By NickH1:
Usually single engine airplane props fail to flat pitch. Essentially a climb prop. I'd prefer that to feathering!


At climb pitch the ole airscrew is still making power, not so much at feather

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Posted: 7/4/2012 5:04:53 AM EST
I'm not familiar with any other piston single that fails to feather, any idea why it's setup that way? Maybe something to do with the inverted oil system?

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Posted: 7/4/2012 9:35:06 AM EST
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thank heavens it didn't fail to the flat pitch position. I lost two co-workers and a whole plane load of people when a prop pitch change actuator failed and it was 50/50 as to which way it would go...fate that day chose flat pitch.


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Posted: 7/4/2012 9:40:33 AM EST
Originally Posted By Screechjet1:
Originally Posted By brasilia:
thank heavens it didn't fail to the flat pitch position. I lost two co-workers and a whole plane load of people when a prop pitch change actuator failed and it was 50/50 as to which way it would go...fate that day chose flat pitch.


In a -120?


I'm assuming the crash that killed "Sonny" Carter in 1991.
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Posted: 7/4/2012 9:45:17 AM EST
Originally Posted By jestertoo:
Why would low pitch be worse?


It depends on the situation. If the engine stops running (or if you need to shut it down due to a fire, low oil pressure, etc.) you want it to feather. Strangely, a windmilling propeller generates almost as much drag as a solid circular plate of the same diameter. At least that's what they told me in flight training.

If the engine is still going, you want it to still be able to generate thrust.
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Posted: 7/4/2012 11:30:01 AM EST
Jeez, it looked like a way tricked-out landing.
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Posted: 7/4/2012 11:35:06 AM EST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PfYso5TInDA

One of the other videos showed it pretty banged-up.
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Posted: 7/4/2012 1:50:31 PM EST
Your buddy will be happy to know his little boo-boo made it to the national news here in the Philippines.

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Posted: 7/5/2012 4:38:36 PM EST
Maybe it was just because I already knew what was coming, based on the thread title, but it looked painfully obvious what was going to happen. Reminds me of an airshow I went to when I was in high school, where a guy was doing snap rolls on a 45deg down line and I knew long before he hit the ground that he had done one roll too many. He wasn't so lucky though. He followed his wife, who had died a few weeks prior in a crash.

I'm glad to know your friend made it though. I would not have expected that, based on video alone. I have friends who do acro competition and instruction, and I worry about them a lot. Also lost two professors in a mid-air while practicing for a show. Can't afford mistakes doing stuff like this.
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Posted: 7/5/2012 4:47:30 PM EST
Originally Posted By HawkeyeNFO:
Originally Posted By jestertoo:
Why would low pitch be worse?


It depends on the situation. If the engine stops running (or if you need to shut it down due to a fire, low oil pressure, etc.) you want it to feather. Strangely, a windmilling propeller generates almost as much drag as a solid circular plate of the same diameter. At least that's what they told me in flight training.

If the engine is still going, you want it to still be able to generate thrust.


Yup, if the prop fails flat (they should bleed to feather like this one did), it's like putting a barn door on the front of the plane. One-way trip to stallsville.
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Posted: 7/5/2012 5:55:42 PM EST
Originally Posted By ASUsax:
Originally Posted By HawkeyeNFO:
Originally Posted By jestertoo:
Why would low pitch be worse?


It depends on the situation. If the engine stops running (or if you need to shut it down due to a fire, low oil pressure, etc.) you want it to feather. Strangely, a windmilling propeller generates almost as much drag as a solid circular plate of the same diameter. At least that's what they told me in flight training.

If the engine is still going, you want it to still be able to generate thrust.


Yup, if the prop fails flat (they should bleed to feather like this one did), it's like putting a barn door on the front of the plane. One-way trip to stallsville.


Flat props help steepen approaches too ...
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Posted: 7/10/2012 3:02:35 PM EST
I like his quote about what was going through his mind, "...fly the plane as far into the crash as I can..."

Just damm.
Glad your buddy is ok OP.


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