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I've prepared this FAQ to address most of the common questions aspiring pilots ask when first discovering the aviation forum. The information in this document is to be used at your own risk and is subject to change

I've never been in a small airplane, where do I go if I just want to go for a ride?

Most flight schools offer introductory or "discovery" flights for between $50 and $100. Helicopter flights can be had for around $200.

There are also a lot of pilots who are happy to take someone up for their first time flying. I try to fly at least 5-10 hours a month to maintain proficiency and will often take people along if they ask.

What are the costs and how long does it take?

Under part 61 of the Federal Aviation Regulations, your private pilot rating requires a minimum of 40 hours total time, 20 hours of dual instruction and 10 hours of solo time. The other 10 hours can be either solo or dual.

There is also a "light sport" certificate that has less stringent medical and training requirements, but restricts you to carrying a single passenger, flying during the day and from flying in controlled airspace. I recommend that people go ahead and get their private pilot certificate as it realistically only requires marginally more training.

Flight schools will often give you a price list drawing up the costs. These price lists are the most optimistic from a cost perspective and frequently omit other costs, such as examination fees. I always tell people to expect to pay $10,000 and to never let the flight school or your instructor know that's your budget.

Some schools offer package deals to encourage students to pay up front. NEVER do this with an unfamiliar flight school. I would occasionally buy block time when I was working on my instrument rating, but I had gotten my private pilot rating from that school, was flying up to 8 hours a day and would buy time before going up. Flight schools are frequently financially unstable and are often sold or go out of business.

The average time most people have in the US when they get their private pilot certificate is 55 hours. Though I don't have statistics on the amount of solo time, I would most certainly think that it would be closer to 45 hours of dual and 10 hours of solo time. You also have the expense of your check ride at ~$450 and your FAA written exam at $150.

You can expect some of your instructional time to be on the ground, so while you have solo time in the airplane, you will also have some dedicated instruction on the ground.

A realistic sample breakdown of cost:

Airplane rental (with fuel): $120/hr
Instructor time: $45/hr

Airplane rental * 55 hours: $6600
Instructor * 50 hours: $2250
Headset: $150
Medical exam: $100
Books/materials: $250
FAA written exam: $150
FAA Check Ride: $450
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Total: $9950

How do I find and select a flight school and instructor?

I haven't yet found a good, comprehensive directory of flight schools, but the following two sites seem to have some information:

http://www.airnav.com/ –– Use this to locate the airports in your area. Click the "Airports" tab and then enter your city. Flight schools also frequently operate as the FBO. Scroll near the bottom of your selected airport's listing and there may be listings under the heading labeled "FBO, Fuel Providers, and Aircraft Ground Support"
http://www.flightaware.com/ –– Enter your city on the left to select your airport (the search isn't as good as airnav's) and click the "FBOs" tab after selecting your airport.

Good instruction saves time, money and lives. I always recommend that people find a school that offers a part 141 program, but to do their training under part 61. A part 141 program has a slight reduction in minimum time required to take your check ride, but requires a strict sequence of training. This sequence can be a hindrance since your skills or weather may make it advantageous to focus on other things in your training.

The advantage in a school that offers a 141 training program is that the flight school, its instructors and airplanes have to meet more stringent requirements from the FAA in order to offer training. You will often find better qualified instructors and better equipment at these schools.

If you're flying a sketchy old Cessna 152 with an instructor that seems like he (or she) doesn't know what they're doing, you may find yourself losing all that money you think you're saving. While there are a lot of differing opinions on trainers, with the Cessna 172 and Piper Cherokees having a solid track record as trainers, I'm partial to the Diamond DA20 as my trainer of choice. Usually you can fly one for less than a new 172; they're fast (for a 2-seat trainer), efficient and I've only heard of one fatal accident in the airframe; and that one involved high-tension powerlines.

Another thing to consider are the airport facilities. An airport with two or three runways at different angles will give you more days to practice your first landings, but don't rule out an airport with only one as there are often others close by you can fly to and work on your landings.

The amount of operations running out of the airport are also a factor and can cause the price of your training to skyrocket. RDU has flight schools operating out of it, but you can expect to spend a few minutes on the ground waiting for clearance, possibly waiting in a queue of 737s waiting to take off and then having to fly 20 miles or so to get to a practice area. Not only can you waste 7/10ths of an hour of instructional and airplane time getting in and out, you may likely be fatigued by the time you get to the learning part of your flight. The interaction on the ground and departure with ATC, while working on the basics of flying, can really wear you out as a student pilot.

Why are people flight instructors? Most instructors, especially younger ones, are working as flight instructors to build experience to become airline pilots. Often they only get paid when they're charging for instruction. If they're training you, they get paid to fly instead of paying upwards of $100/hr to fly the plane; keep this in mind. An instructor with few students is often available, but also may try to milk their students for a little more time. Most instructors are trying to obtain 1500 hours however they can. Ideally your instructor will have at least 2000 hours and your school will have more than one instructor with that amount of experience.

You should get along well with your instructor. A good instructor should be able to let you spend most of the time at the controls and should only need to touch them to demonstrate maneuvers. Learning should be progressive. If you find yourself unable to grasp a concept, the school should let you fly with another instructor. The school that I attended for my primary and instrument rating insisted that, after completing a section of training, that you fly with another instructor to verify that your training was sufficient to fly solo or cross-country. Those were the flights where training deficiencies were caught.
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Start with these for basics, then what ever program your flight school uses.

http://www.sportys.com/PilotShop/product/9923

http://www.sportys.com/PilotShop/product/9909
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From danpass:
Here is the general FAA section LINK which contains a PDF and online version of the first link quoted above http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/aviation/pilot_handbook/ as well as many others that will eventually be mentioned.


Having said that I like having a hard copy that I can make notes in, etc.


Another good one is http://www.amazon.com/Private-Pilot-Manual-Jeppesen/dp/088487429X/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1303071686&sr=1-2

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Aeronautical Knowledge Requirements (Ground Training)

Applicable Federal Aviation Regulations that relate to private pilot privileges, limitations, and flight operations (PART 61 & 91).
Accident reporting requirements of the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB 830)
Use of the applicable portions of the "Aeronautical Information Manual" and FAA advisory circulars
Use of aeronautical charts for VFR navigation using pilotage, dead reckoning, and navigation systems
Radio communication procedures
Recognition of critical weather situations from the ground and in flight, windshear avoidance, and the procurement and use of aeronautical weather reports and forecasts
Safe and efficient operation of aircraft, including collision avoidance, and recognition and avoidance of wake turbulence;
Effects of density altitude on takeoff and climb performance;
Weight and balance computations
Principles of aerodynamics, powerplants, and aircraft systems;
Stall awareness, spin entry, spins, and spin recovery techniques
Aeronautical decision making and judgment
Preflight action that includes, how to obtain information on runway lengths at airports of intended use, data on takeoff and landing distances, weather reports and forecasts, fuel requirements and how to plan for alternatives if the planned flight cannot be completed or delays are encountered.

Flight Training Requirements

Preflight preparation
Preflight procedures
Airport operations (towered and non-towered)
Takeoffs, landings, and go-arounds
Performance maneuvers (steep turns)
Ground reference maneuvers (turns around a point, s-turns, rectangular pattern)
Navigation
Slow flight (1.2 VSO) and stalls (power on and off)
Basic instrument maneuvers
Emergency operations
Night operations
Postflight procedures

Aeronautical Experience

40 hours total flight time
20 hours of dual training
10 hours of solo flight
3 hours of dual cross-country flight training
3 hours of dual night flight training
One night dual cross-country flight of over 100 nautical miles total distance
10 night takeoffs and 10 night landings to a full stop with each landing involving a flight in the traffic pattern at an airport.
3 hours of flight training on the control and maneuvering of an airplane solely by reference to instruments, including straight and level flight, constant airspeed climbs and descents, turns to a heading, recovery from unusual flight attitudes, radio communications and the use of navigation systems/facilities and radar services appropriate to instrument flight;
3 hours of flight training in preparation for the practical test, which must have been performed within 60 days preceding the date of the test
At least 5 hours of solo cross-country flight
One solo cross-country flight of at least 150 nautical miles total distance, with full-stop landings at a minimum of three points, and one segment of the flight consisting of a straight-line distance of at least 50 nautical miles between the takeoff and landing locations.
Three solo takeoffs and three landings to a full stop with each landing involving a flight in the traffic pattern at an airport with an operating control tower.

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As a CFI, CFII, and MEI, please, pretty please with sugar on top, read ahead of every flight. Your CFI should brief every flight, and debrief every flight. Be a good student and have the aircraft pre-flighted for your instructor. Thanks. It shows you care.

.Mil students are great for this. Chair flying (pretend flying in chairs in a quiet room) esp. for procedural hops, especially in crew served aircraft is invaluable. The Snowbirds and Blue Angels chair-fly their routines.

The brief should cover the flight's events, with a discussion of the nuts and bolts of each evolution "At 5000 feet, you will slow to Va, do a set of clearing turn and then commence a clean stall with the aircraft at idle power. At first sign of developed stall, recover the aircraft with minimum altitude loss while maintaining or recovering to assigned heading."

The debrief should cover what was learned, things that went poorly/well, and a preview to what is going to happen next. This should give you a clue of what to read.

You should know the memory emergency procedures and limitations for your aircraft. Cold, from memory. Period. Its not difficult.

Check rides are won or lost, much of the time, in the first five minutes in the oral, the first five minutes in the taxi and the first five minutes in the airwork.

The first questions on the oral are usually either very basic general aviation or aircraft knowledge. Answer clearly, confidently and without hesitation.

The first five minutes in the taxi will demonstrate your general confidence in the aircraft and aircraft control.

The first airwork manuver, on just about every FW check ride is a set of steep turns. Do steep turns well and you've demonstrated to the examiner aircraft control and confidence.

A checkride's outcome should never be in doubt. Don't be cocky, but be confident of your knowledge, skills, and abilities. If you don't know, answer "I don't know." You generally get one or two of those in an oral. Don't abuse them, but don't lie. Sometimes, examiners will ask questions specifically outside of your required oral knowledge base just to test your CFI.

Your checkrides are a reflection on your CFI as much as you.
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Originally Posted By Screechjet1:
As a CFI, CFII, and MEI, please, pretty please with sugar on top, read ahead of every flight. Your CFI should brief every flight, and debrief every flight. Be a good student and have the aircraft pre-flighted for your instructor. Thanks. It shows you care.

.Mil students are great for this. Chair flying (pretend flying in chairs in a quiet room) esp. for procedural hops, especially in crew served aircraft is invaluable. The Snowbirds and Blue Angels chair-fly their routines.

The brief should cover the flight's events, with a discussion of the nuts and bolts of each evolution "At 5000 feet, you will slow to Va, do a set of clearing turn and then commence a clean stall with the aircraft at idle power. At first sign of developed stall, recover the aircraft with minimum altitude loss while maintaining or recovering to assigned heading."

The debrief should cover what was learned, things that went poorly/well, and a preview to what is going to happen next. This should give you a clue of what to read.

You should know the memory emergency procedures and limitations for your aircraft. Cold, from memory. Period. Its not difficult.

Check rides are won or lost, much of the time, in the first five minutes in the oral, the first five minutes in the taxi and the first five minutes in the airwork.

The first questions on the oral are usually either very basic general aviation or aircraft knowledge. Answer clearly, confidently and without hesitation.

The first five minutes in the taxi will demonstrate your general confidence in the aircraft and aircraft control.

The first airwork manuver, on just about every FW check ride is a set of steep turns. Do steep turns well and you've demonstrated to the examiner aircraft control and confidence.

A checkride's outcome should never be in doubt. Don't be cocky, but be confident of your knowledge, skills, and abilities. If you don't know, answer "I don't know." You generally get one or two of those in an oral. Don't abuse them, but don't lie. Sometimes, examiners will ask questions specifically outside of your required oral knowledge base just to test your CFI.

Your checkrides are a reflection on your CFI as much as you.


Truer words have never been spoken. Trying to BS an examiner is asking for a pink slip, don't try it. There are NO original mistakes in flight instruction.
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Originally Posted By Screechjet1:
As a CFI, CFII, and MEI, please, pretty please with sugar on top, read ahead of every flight. Your CFI should brief every flight, and debrief every flight. Be a good student and have the aircraft pre-flighted for your instructor. Thanks. It shows you care.

.Mil students are great for this. Chair flying (pretend flying in chairs in a quiet room) esp. for procedural hops, especially in crew served aircraft is invaluable. The Snowbirds and Blue Angels chair-fly their routines.

The brief should cover the flight's events, with a discussion of the nuts and bolts of each evolution "At 5000 feet, you will slow to Va, do a set of clearing turn and then commence a clean stall with the aircraft at idle power. At first sign of developed stall, recover the aircraft with minimum altitude loss while maintaining or recovering to assigned heading."

The debrief should cover what was learned, things that went poorly/well, and a preview to what is going to happen next. This should give you a clue of what to read.

You should know the memory emergency procedures and limitations for your aircraft. Cold, from memory. Period. Its not difficult.

Check rides are won or lost, much of the time, in the first five minutes in the oral, the first five minutes in the taxi and the first five minutes in the airwork.

The first questions on the oral are usually either very basic general aviation or aircraft knowledge. Answer clearly, confidently and without hesitation.

The first five minutes in the taxi will demonstrate your general confidence in the aircraft and aircraft control.

The first airwork manuver, on just about every FW check ride is a set of steep turns. Do steep turns well and you've demonstrated to the examiner aircraft control and confidence.

A checkride's outcome should never be in doubt. Don't be cocky, but be confident of your knowledge, skills, and abilities. If you don't know, answer "I don't know." You generally get one or two of those in an oral. Don't abuse them, but don't lie. Sometimes, examiners will ask questions specifically outside of your required oral knowledge base just to test your CFI.

Your checkrides are a reflection on your CFI as much as you.


Not only that, but a student that studies and is well prepared will spend less money in getting his license. Excellent post screech...

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Originally Posted By Screechjet1:
As a CFI, CFII, and MEI, please, pretty please with sugar on top, read ahead of every flight. Your CFI should brief every flight, and debrief every flight. Be a good student and have the aircraft pre-flighted for your instructor. Thanks. It shows you care.

.Mil students are great for this. Chair flying (pretend flying in chairs in a quiet room) esp. for procedural hops, especially in crew served aircraft is invaluable. The Snowbirds and Blue Angels chair-fly their routines.

The brief should cover the flight's events, with a discussion of the nuts and bolts of each evolution "At 5000 feet, you will slow to Va, do a set of clearing turn and then commence a clean stall with the aircraft at idle power. At first sign of developed stall, recover the aircraft with minimum altitude loss while maintaining or recovering to assigned heading."

The debrief should cover what was learned, things that went poorly/well, and a preview to what is going to happen next. This should give you a clue of what to read.

You should know the memory emergency procedures and limitations for your aircraft. Cold, from memory. Period. Its not difficult.

Check rides are won or lost, much of the time, in the first five minutes in the oral, the first five minutes in the taxi and the first five minutes in the airwork.

The first questions on the oral are usually either very basic general aviation or aircraft knowledge. Answer clearly, confidently and without hesitation.

The first five minutes in the taxi will demonstrate your general confidence in the aircraft and aircraft control.

The first airwork manuver, on just about every FW check ride is a set of steep turns. Do steep turns well and you've demonstrated to the examiner aircraft control and confidence.

A checkride's outcome should never be in doubt. Don't be cocky, but be confident of your knowledge, skills, and abilities. If you don't know, answer "I don't know." You generally get one or two of those in an oral. Don't abuse them, but don't lie. Sometimes, examiners will ask questions specifically outside of your required oral knowledge base just to test your CFI.

Your checkrides are a reflection on your CFI as much as you.

Going to have to disagree on the bold portion. All too often the CFI is the one that doesn't give two shits, he is building time and getting paid. If the student didn't care he wouldn't be coughing over $130 an hour to be there.

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Going to have to disagree on the bold portion. All too often the CFI is the one that doesn't give two shits, he is building time and getting paid. If the student didn't care he wouldn't be coughing over $130 an hour to be there.


I was a time building instructor, and I never had a student fail a multi- or instrument checkride, which was the majority of my dual given.

I saw the "career" flight instructors teach patently wrong or out-of-date material, because "that's how its always been done."

Many students frankly don't give a shit, or have unrealistic expectations, or find out learning to fly is a really expensive hobby compared to golf. Many are love with the idea of being a pilot, and think its like driving, or the CFI can pry their head open and pour the knowledge in.

Interview your instructor. Get a feeling of his teaching style. I personally am against the idea of using only one instructor for any given stage of training, even if its just another instructor doing a mock checkride at the end. Even if you're doing this as a hobby, its a hobby that's killed a bunch of people deader than Julius Caesar because they didn't take it seriously or approach it professionally. Part of the professional side is learning how to learn in the cockpit from a variety of teaching styles. Even the weakest people I've flown with taught me something.

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For those who need a Radio license for flying.
Step by Step Instructions to Obtaining Your FCC Radio Telephone License,
I copied and pasted off of a post in Jet careers.
cost is $60 and was a pain to fill out but only need to do it once.


Step 1 – Go to www.fcc.gov website and on the left hand side, in the yellow box area, click on the Forms link
Step 2 – Scroll down the page Ύ of the way and you will see
(Quick-Form Application for Authorization in the Ship, Aircraft, Amateur, Restricted and Commercial Operator, and General Mobile Radio Services) form 605. Click on Electronic Filing link.
Step 3 – On the next page you will click on the second link, being Online Filing
Step 4 – The following page ask for you FRN and pin. If you have one enter it here, if not click on the link Need and FRN? Register with the FCC.
Step 5 – Highlight the Register now circle and then click continue
Step 6 – You will be registering as an individual and check the appropriate response to the address with in the U.S. question.
Step 7 – Enter your appropriate information in the following page
Step 8 – The next page your FRN number will be displayed. Write this down or print for future reference. Click the back button four times or go to the FCC home page and using steps 1 through 3 to return to the page that ask for your FRN number. Enter your number here along with your password you submitted in the previous steps.
Step 9 – The following page will have an option to Apply for a new license. Click here.
Step 10 – This will take you to a page on which you must select the radio service for which you will be applying. Scroll down the list until you reach ( RR-Recruited Operator ) <edit to add: believe that is "Restricted", not "Recruited">. Continue
Step 11 – On the Applicant Questions page leave everything as is. It should say Regular on type and No you’re not exempt from application fees or license fees. Continue
Step 12 – Address located outside the U.S. check appropriate field. Continue.
Step 13 – Fill out your information for you license on this page. Continue
Step 14 – Click that you are eligible for employment in the U.S. Continue
Step 15 – Check that all your information is accurate and then continue.
Step 16 – Agree to all the above statements then Continue.
Step 17 – Give your electronic signature by filling in the boxes. Continue
Step 18 – Print your application and continue to Form 159
Step 19 – Fill in your FRN number and password and Continue
Step 20 – On form 159 you can either pay credit card or if you select to view form 159 you can mail in a payment. Select your choice and proceed.
Step 21 – The following page you will be able to print form 159 after your credit card has been approved.
This is the completion of you FCC Radio Telephone Operators Permit Application. You should receive you license in the mail with in 2 to 3 weeks
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I had the pleasure of demonstrating spin recovery on my Private checkride back in 98 even though they weren't required. I did extremely well on the whole checkride and he asked if I knew how to do it. Being that I had an excellent CFI, I was proficient in the maneuver. I really treasure the instruction that I got that was above and beyond FAA requirements.
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For those wanting to be pilots don't let the company pay for you to come out for the second interview if you can't afford to take the job and it's associated paycut.

Dang I hate that.
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Originally Posted By Toiyabe:

There is also a "light sport" certificate that has less stringent medical and training requirements, but restricts you to carrying a single passenger, flying during the day and from flying in controlled airspace. I recommend that people go ahead and get their private pilot certificate as it realistically only requires marginally more training.



One thing I've found is that it's pretty common for people who hold a PPL to speak condescendingly and disparagingly of the Sport Pilot License ("light sport" is the class of aircraft, Sport Pilot is the license). A coworker goes off on that rant when Sport Pilot comes up in a conversation. He goes on about how we're going to see inadequately trained quasi-pilots falling out of the sky and killing themselves. He speaks out his ass.

An advantage of the Sport Pilot license is that the cost is roughly half of a PPL. Considering about $8,000 for a PPL and $4,000 for the Sport Pilot rating, it's a good way to get a running start, and your time & experience can go toward eventually upgrading to a PPL.

A Sport Pilot is limited to an airplane of relatively modest performance, one passenger, and daylight VFR conditions. (There are more details on the bioundaries, but those are the main points). If you don't need to go Warp 6, are content to carry one passenger (like me taking my wife or a friend up), and aren't interested in flying in crappy weather, there is nothing wrong with the Sport Pilot license. It makes perfect sense for the person who has a desire to fly, but is limited by resources.

General aviation was in a serious decline due to the costs of getting a PPL. The Sport Pilot license is reinvigorating GA, bringing in many new aircraft manufacturers in addition to new pilots.

Just my 2 cents.
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Don't be afraid to fire your CFI. The opinion you form about him or her in the first five minutes is valid. It's your money, time, and instruction.
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Don't be afraid to fire your CFI. The opinion you form about him or her in the first five minutes is valid. It's your money, time, and instruction.


...and don't be afraid to tell him YOUR expectations for each training flight. You should have some kind of goal or expectation for each and every training flight you undertake.

While the CFI is pilot-in-command during initial training (private pilot), YOU are the boss- YOU decide whether the lesson continues or not- no one else. I fired a CFI in the air once. I told him that the lesson was over and as of the time on the tach he was fired and would not be paid a red cent beyond that time. He thought that being a wannabe DI in the air was the way to do business and me firing him was his wake-up call.
Never accept a CFI that yells or is abusive in any way, whether on the ground or in the cockpit. A lot of the old-timers are that way and the CFI's they trained follow the same mold. It's unprofessional and you don't have to put up with it.

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I found the Gleim audio PPL review very helpful in prepping for my written exam. I scored 93%. I listened to these daily driving into work. While some of the review needs access to charts and tables a lot of it can be used audio only. For around $60 it's a lot of good information, presented in a style that fosters retention.


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There are many like it, but this one is mine.
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Posted: 6/18/2012 3:24:53 AM
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Originally Posted By Toiyabe:

There is also a "light sport" certificate that has less stringent medical and training requirements, but restricts you to carrying a single passenger, flying during the day and from flying in controlled airspace. I recommend that people go ahead and get their private pilot certificate as it realistically only requires marginally more training.



One thing I've found is that it's pretty common for people who hold a PPL to speak condescendingly and disparagingly of the Sport Pilot License ("light sport" is the class of aircraft, Sport Pilot is the license). A coworker goes off on that rant when Sport Pilot comes up in a conversation. He goes on about how we're going to see inadequately trained quasi-pilots falling out of the sky and killing themselves. He speaks out his ass.

An advantage of the Sport Pilot license is that the cost is roughly half of a PPL. Considering about $8,000 for a PPL and $4,000 for the Sport Pilot rating, it's a good way to get a running start, and your time & experience can go toward eventually upgrading to a PPL.

A Sport Pilot is limited to an airplane of relatively modest performance, one passenger, and daylight VFR conditions. (There are more details on the bioundaries, but those are the main points). If you don't need to go Warp 6, are content to carry one passenger (like me taking my wife or a friend up), and aren't interested in flying in crappy weather, there is nothing wrong with the Sport Pilot license. It makes perfect sense for the person who has a desire to fly, but is limited by resources.

General aviation was in a serious decline due to the costs of getting a PPL. The Sport Pilot license is reinvigorating GA, bringing in many new aircraft manufacturers in addition to new pilots.

Just my 2 cents.


Does the Sport Pilot license also apply to helicopters? I just started my lessons and the goal has always been to build an experimental..
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Posted: 8/14/2012 10:38:37 AM
Is there any real utility beyond the obvious* to this book? I ask here instead of the book thread since it relates to pilot training.

http://www.amazon.com/You-Can-Afford-To-Pilot/dp/1456408151/ref=pd_sim_b_78











* from the reviews it seems that the author talks about the sport pilot license being cheaper .......... well of course ....... it is fewer hours.
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No, just do a little bit of research... talk to a few instructors and decide what your goals are and go from there.
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It took me a while to figure this out but, in a check ride answer only the question asked... if the examiner will ask follow up questions if he/she wants more info.

they love when you dig your own hole... especially in that first regional airline check ride. "what does it mean when this light comes on... Well it could mean this or this or... Really tell me about that..." Boy I've dug a few of those holes in my day!!!
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Make sure you understand the 'real' 4 forces of flight:

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Originally Posted By mcg3686:
For those who need a Radio license for flying.
Step by Step Instructions to Obtaining Your FCC Radio Telephone License,
I copied and pasted off of a post in Jet careers.
cost is $60 and was a pain to fill out but only need to do it once.


Step 1 – Go to www.fcc.gov website and on the left hand side, in the yellow box area, click on the Forms link
Step 2 – Scroll down the page Ύ of the way and you will see
(Quick-Form Application for Authorization in the Ship, Aircraft, Amateur, Restricted and Commercial Operator, and General Mobile Radio Services) form 605. Click on Electronic Filing link.
Step 3 – On the next page you will click on the second link, being Online Filing
Step 4 – The following page ask for you FRN and pin. If you have one enter it here, if not click on the link Need and FRN? Register with the FCC.
Step 5 – Highlight the Register now circle and then click continue
Step 6 – You will be registering as an individual and check the appropriate response to the address with in the U.S. question.
Step 7 – Enter your appropriate information in the following page
Step 8 – The next page your FRN number will be displayed. Write this down or print for future reference. Click the back button four times or go to the FCC home page and using steps 1 through 3 to return to the page that ask for your FRN number. Enter your number here along with your password you submitted in the previous steps.
Step 9 – The following page will have an option to Apply for a new license. Click here.
Step 10 – This will take you to a page on which you must select the radio service for which you will be applying. Scroll down the list until you reach ( RR-Recruited Operator ) <edit to add: believe that is "Restricted", not "Recruited">. Continue
Step 11 – On the Applicant Questions page leave everything as is. It should say Regular on type and No you’re not exempt from application fees or license fees. Continue
Step 12 – Address located outside the U.S. check appropriate field. Continue.
Step 13 – Fill out your information for you license on this page. Continue
Step 14 – Click that you are eligible for employment in the U.S. Continue
Step 15 – Check that all your information is accurate and then continue.
Step 16 – Agree to all the above statements then Continue.
Step 17 – Give your electronic signature by filling in the boxes. Continue
Step 18 – Print your application and continue to Form 159
Step 19 – Fill in your FRN number and password and Continue
Step 20 – On form 159 you can either pay credit card or if you select to view form 159 you can mail in a payment. Select your choice and proceed.
Step 21 – The following page you will be able to print form 159 after your credit card has been approved.
This is the completion of you FCC Radio Telephone Operators Permit Application. You should receive you license in the mail with in 2 to 3 weeks

I just tried this. It looks different now. They say an aviation license is not required, and it is $160.

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