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Posted: 1/28/2017 12:13:36 PM EDT
I need a decent 110v machine. Are these hobarts the best value? I've never used a wire feed before, only stick, so I want something fairly cheap to get started on.
I'm well aware of the limitations using this voltage and I'm not interested in stepping up to a 220v. It will just be for small projects and I have friends with big machines if I need them, lol.
Link Posted: 1/28/2017 1:43:05 PM EDT
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Can't go wrong with a Hobart. I have a Handler 190 and it's great. It is the best hobbiest/homeowner machine there is.
Link Posted: 1/28/2017 3:00:42 PM EDT
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Can't go wrong with a Hobart. I have a Handler 190 and it's great. It is the best hobbiest/homeowner machine there is.
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I've had the 190 for almost 10 years, has run flawlessly. Hobart is the same machine as Miller just cheaper and without the blue paint.
Link Posted: 1/28/2017 3:06:23 PM EDT
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I got one because I needed a 110v machine. I like it well enough and it fits my needs as a portable MIG. 
Link Posted: 1/28/2017 9:41:45 PM EDT
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Ok, I'm sold!

Is this the best deal?
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 9:44:38 AM EDT
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I've had a 140 for several years. Welds 1/4 fairly easily and thicker with preheat and multi pass.
Good unit.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 9:55:51 AM EDT
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A lot of the smaller Millers are dual voltage.  I wouldn't get anything less than a 180.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 11:57:07 AM EDT
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Are they sub-$500 though?

I'm aware of the limitations of a 110 machine. I have bigger stuff available if I need to borrow it.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 3:04:26 PM EDT
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I've used a Handler 125 on straight CO2 for several years and never had any problems or regrets. It's a tough SOB,  too. It went totally under water for several hours in a flood last May and after drying out for a few months over the summer it still works.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 4:41:34 PM EDT
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Love my 140, got it at tsc.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 4:46:15 PM EDT
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Try an inverter based machine if you can.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 6:51:51 PM EDT
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I have a Hobart Handler 140 and it does good for light stuff around the garage. I suggest using solid wire and gas for better welds versus using flux core wire.
Link Posted: 1/30/2017 7:04:20 AM EDT
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I'm gonna try running straight co2. I just bought an "instant air" CO2 rig for my Land Cruiser, so I have bottles.
Link Posted: 1/31/2017 4:19:18 AM EDT
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I have had one for 4 or 5 years now. Havent used it a ton but it works great when i do. If you plan on using flux wire, you will need to buy the tip cover that is solid and tapered, for a few bucks.  The welder only comes with the gas tip.

Last year i bought an argon/co2 tank for it, it works good also with the supplied equipment.
Link Posted: 1/31/2017 9:57:49 AM EDT
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Have you done reading on a Co2 only weld?  Runs hotter so you can burn through much easier. And a dirty weld. Requires a lot of clean up.  If you are getting a 140 for small jobs, I would be concerned about burn through.  
I bought the same welder with the blue paint.  Damned fine machine.  If I knew what I know now when I bought my machine, it would have been the Hobart.
Link Posted: 1/31/2017 10:27:40 AM EDT
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I have a Hobart 175 but it just crapped out Saturday. But it's also about 20 years old so there is that. The 180 would be the modern equivalent to what I have.

I'm looking at going bigger, 211 Miller or 252i esab.
Link Posted: 1/31/2017 10:38:37 AM EDT
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I've had a 140 for several years. Welds 1/4 fairly easily and thicker with preheat and multi pass.
Good unit.
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Link Posted: 1/31/2017 10:49:39 AM EDT
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Had mine for many years. Done frame work, body work, engine mounts etc. Used the hell out of it building cars. Wont let you down.  I bought mine through Northern Tool. It was on sale and free shipping. I forget what it cost.
Link Posted: 1/31/2017 11:12:53 AM EDT
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On it's own 30 amp breaker with gas to get the most out of the machine it works well. Steel prep is key
Link Posted: 1/31/2017 11:13:34 AM EDT
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Ok, I'm sold!

Is this the best deal?
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That's where I bought mine
Link Posted: 1/31/2017 11:27:12 AM EDT
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Are they sub-$500 though?

I'm aware of the limitations of a 110 machine. I have bigger stuff available if I need to borrow it.
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A lot of the smaller Millers are dual voltage.  I wouldn't get anything less than a 180.


Are they sub-$500 though?

I'm aware of the limitations of a 110 machine. I have bigger stuff available if I need to borrow it.



If you find a used one on Craigs or Backpage, you have to be diligent and fast.  I practically stole my plasma cutter and the guy's phone was blowing up when I handed him cash.

I had a Hobart, purchased new, a large 170 (IIRC) on wheels.  It had to go back for warranty repair on day one.  They loaned me a larger 225 Hobart, free gas and wire.  I completed my project with it and had a virtually new 180 when it was returned 3 months later.  It never fed .024 wire worth a shit and I was happy to trade it for a pressure washer.  I then bought a Miller mini 180 and still use it to this day. I bought it just before they went over to dual voltages.   I had used larger Millers at jobs and knew the feeding mechanism was all metal and much more reliable.

Shop around on line.  If you can catch a special, you can find a great deal on a Miller box.  I would also look at Lincoln and Esab before ever going back to a Hobart.  

I need a new .024 liner again, and I am currently running .030 wire in a large liner.  If I get another resto that needs a lot of sheet metal work, I will go back to .024 wire. The over wrap clamp on wire cleaner/lube is a good thing to install.

I do a lot of frame/suspension work.  A 140 is not big enough.  There is a reason that place mentioned is selling refurbs.  Duty cycle is a motherfucker, and if you don't want to wait on your welder to cool to get the job done, you are going to burn up the transformer or the diode packs.  Even a 180 is a bit light, but it does everything on a single pass up to 1/4" and does it at a reasonable rate. I have never had the overload light come on using my box.
Link Posted: 1/31/2017 1:58:25 PM EDT
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Have you done reading on a Co2 only weld?  Runs hotter so you can burn through much easier. And a dirty weld. Requires a lot of clean up.  If you are getting a 140 for small jobs, I would be concerned about burn through.  
I bought the same welder with the blue paint.  Damned fine machine.  If I knew what I know now when I bought my machine, it would have been the Hobart.
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The straight CO2 was recommended on several weld forums I was looking at. I haven't played with it yet though.
Link Posted: 2/1/2017 2:33:49 AM EDT
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The straight CO2 was recommended on several weld forums I was looking at. I haven't played with it yet though.
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Have you done reading on a Co2 only weld?  Runs hotter so you can burn through much easier. And a dirty weld. Requires a lot of clean up.  If you are getting a 140 for small jobs, I would be concerned about burn through.  
I bought the same welder with the blue paint.  Damned fine machine.  If I knew what I know now when I bought my machine, it would have been the Hobart.


The straight CO2 was recommended on several weld forums I was looking at. I haven't played with it yet though.


I haven't had any problems with CO2. I don't see the dirty weld (I used flux core for a good while and THAT was a dirty weld) and I haven't had any problems with burn through, I just turn it down.
Link Posted: 2/17/2017 4:55:16 PM EDT
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HH 140 is a great machine, IF you understand the limitations and keep material to 3/16" or less.

I've had one for years, coupled with a tank of C25 it is hard to beat.  
I have a Hobart 200A engine drive for the larger stuff, but rarely use it. The 140 meets 90% of my needs.

I bought mine reconditioned from Hobart as well. Could not tell it from new.
Link Posted: 2/17/2017 10:10:44 PM EDT
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Cool, after I figure out what I owe the IRS, I'll buy one!
Link Posted: 2/17/2017 10:27:08 PM EDT
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I have a Miller 211 and love it.  It gives you the flexibility of 110/220.
I think someone has a good sale on them. I'll see if I can dig up the info.
Link Posted: 2/17/2017 11:06:01 PM EDT
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Hobart 140 is a good machine!  Sometimes you can buy refurbs from Hobart at discounted rates.

I almost bought a a Hobart, but got the Eastwood on Black Friday sale.  Hobart is better though!
Link Posted: 2/18/2017 12:23:00 AM EDT
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I have a Miller 211 and love it.  It gives you the flexibility of 110/220.
I think someone has a good sale on them. I'll see if I can dig up the info.
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They are great machines, but even with Miller's current rebate, it's more than double the price. I really don't need that much machine at the moment.
Link Posted: 2/18/2017 2:45:09 PM EDT
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Hobart 140 is a good machine!  Sometimes you can buy refurbs from Hobart at discounted rates.

I almost bought a a Hobart, but got the Eastwood on Black Friday sale.  Hobart is better though!
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I got the Eastwood about 5 years ago for $199, with regulator, and $14.99 S&H. Still see it at that price from time to time.
Fine for what I use it for.

LOL, my stick welder is an OLD Sears Colormatic I scrounged for free.
Can you tell I'm cheap?
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