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Posted: 11/23/2015 11:48:28 PM EDT
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Harbor freight gets decent reviews. Ridgid would be the other I would look at.
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Posted: 11/23/2015 11:51:06 PM EDT
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Dewalt 12 in if you shop around a little you won't go much over you 450 price. They are worth it.
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Posted: 11/23/2015 11:55:04 PM EDT
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I just bought the Dewalt 12" at Home Depot for $399!!!! There are two 12" models the other is $599 and is only slightly better. The more expensive one allows you to make slightly bigger cuts and has a shadow line instead of a laser.
The 399 version has worked well this week. Super clean cuts and it's way better than the old ryobi POS that I have. Also picked up a Dewalt table saw for $299. Great cuts - again way better than the $99 POS I had. |
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Posted: 11/24/2015 10:49:17 AM EDT
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I bought a like-new Dewalt DWS715 (?) 12" dual bevel sliding miter saw off Craigslist for $400 with a 100 tooth blade. I cut a whole house worth of trim with it and it worked great.
Like someone else mentioned, there is a Dewalt that's been going for $399 on sale recently. I'd strongly consider that. |
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Posted: 11/24/2015 11:29:58 AM EDT
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Quoted: I have an old Ryobi RA202 radial saw, and a couple of years ago received notice that it has a design flaw that poses a safety hazard and I should cease using it. The motor housing can crack and fly apart, and there is no fix, and no refund. So I need to replace it with something similar. I know that radial saws are pretty much extinct today, replaced by miter saws. So I'm looking for new one for general home use. Here are the features I think I want: - Price < $450 - Sliding head, otherwise the throat depth is pretty limited. - Bevel capability, but I'm not sure if dual bevel is that important. - 10" sounds ideal, not too large, most common blade size - Laser would be nice Makita offers some "dual slide" models (like LS1016) which save space, but I watched one reivew that said it was not rigid enough and caused blade chatter as a result. The one I seem to have focused on at this point is the Makita LS1018. It's not their "dual slide", so there should be no rigidity problems. It's around $400 and has dual bevel, but no laser. What does the hive recommend? . OP, Could you just wrap some 1/4" x 1/4" hardware cloth around the motor housing to contain any parts that detonate? Since it has 1/4" squares the motor could still breathe. Edit: Nope, never mind, it is not the motor parts that are the problem: |
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Posted: 11/24/2015 2:28:19 PM EDT
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I have this one and so far I'm impressed. currently cutting 6" crown for the house:
ETA: $299 at local lowe's |
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Posted: 11/24/2015 6:56:46 PM EDT
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I've been using a 10" Kobalt for the last five or six years. Homeowner-level projects, mostly ... but it's run like a top.
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Posted: 11/24/2015 7:09:47 PM EDT
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Sliding miter saws suck as a general rule.
DeWalt 12" 
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Posted: 11/25/2015 12:54:06 AM EDT
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I currently have 4 different miter saws. The small one is an 8 1\4" cheepo $79 model. It works great for small projects that require a potable saw, but don't require truly squared or mitered ends. The blade has a tendency to walk when cutting.
The next one is a Harbor Freight sliding compound miter with a 12" blade and laser. I use this for general projects around the shop. I keep it permanently mounted for dust collection. It works great for general projects, but I wouldn't rely on it for projects that require precise cuts. There is just too much slop IMHO. It is a very loud saw as well. The third is a 10" sliding compound miter saw made by Hitachi, no laser.. I use this one on job sites for framing, decks, etc. I really like this saw, and would definitely by another if it went down. The last is a Dewalt 12" miter saw with a shadow line. I use this one solely for trim work, like base, casings, crown, etc.. I prefer a very rigid saw for trim work. The last 3 saws would probably meet the needs you've described so far. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 6:39:39 PM EDT
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Buy a nice blade. Not from Harbor Freight, they don't sell anything nice. (Or worth it)
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:48:12 AM EDT
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Thanks all for the advice. I discovered Rigid makes a 10" saw that has lots of nice features, found a good review of it:
https://youtu.be/wUIspKuF30k 
Local Home Depot doesn't stock it, so I can't get a hands-on feel for it. But it has most of what I want, and I've had good luck with Rigid products. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 9:35:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks all for the advice. I discovered Rigid makes a 10" saw that has lots of nice features, found a good review of it: https://youtu.be/wUIspKuF30k  https://youtu.be/wUIspKuF30kLocal Home Depot doesn't stock it, so I can't get a hands-on feel for it. But it has most of what I want, and I've had good luck with Rigid products. That should more than meet your needs. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:18:34 AM EDT
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Thanks all for the advice. I discovered Rigid makes a 10" saw that has lots of nice features, found a good review of it: https://youtu.be/wUIspKuF30k https://youtu.be/wUIspKuF30k
Local Home Depot doesn't stock it, so I can't get a hands-on feel for it. But it has most of what I want, and I've had good luck with Rigid products. I got that one last month to replace a 15 year old Delta 10". Also got the utility cart. I haven't taken the time to adjust the laser, but that isn't one of the features that I bought the saw for. I don't think you'll be disappointed. HD has the utility cart on sale for $99 right now as well. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 11:03:47 AM EDT
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Just to throw a different perspective out there...
If a radial arm saw met your needs up until now, you might consider replacing it with another one. You can pick up pretty decent used ones all day long on Craigslist... because, as you said, nobody wants 'em any more. Then take the $350 you saved and buy a bunch of nice lumber that you may not have sprung for otherwise. 
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Posted: 11/27/2015 11:24:20 AM EDT
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The Chicago electric harbor freight 12" can be had for around $130 if you watch the sales. I have been pretty impressed with it.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 11:50:22 AM EDT
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Any opinions on this 12" dual bevel Craftsman? Christmas present for my pops if it's decent, he always bitches that his current saw can't cut through a 4x4 in one cut without repositioning it.
Shows on sale for $380, and there is a $35 discount code somewhere online my wife said too, so should be $350ish http://m.craftsman.com/details/guest/00918629000P?sid=IDxCMDFx20140801x001 |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 6:00:35 PM EDT
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I have this one and so far I'm impressed. currently cutting 6" crown for the house: http://www.lowes.com/pd_358936-46069-SM3055LW___?productId=3512781&pl=1&Ntt=compound+miter+saws http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a533/rwilkins01/miter%20saw_zpskgkgseu6.jpg ETA: $299 at local lowe's I bought one of those last year. Works great for my needs. The dust bag is a joke. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:48:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Chicago electric harbor freight 12" can be had for around $130 if you watch the sales. I have been pretty impressed with it. or just go to hfqpdb.com and get the coupon for it..... |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 9:12:53 PM EDT
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Anything but Dewalt. I bought one and cut one board with it, boxed it up and took it back. What garbage. I would assume a new saw should be smooth...not dewalt.
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Posted: 11/28/2015 3:28:01 AM EDT
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My first miter saw was a Ridged 12". I used it for 12 years. After I bought a new one I gave it to my buddy. He's been using it for 4 years. Both of us had no issues.
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Posted: 11/28/2015 9:21:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any opinions on this 12" dual bevel Craftsman? Christmas present for my pops if it's decent, he always bitches that his current saw can't cut through a 4x4 in one cut without repositioning it. Shows on sale for $380, and there is a $35 discount code somewhere online my wife said too, so should be $350ish http://m.craftsman.com/details/guest/00918629000P?sid=IDxCMDFx20140801x001 |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 5:14:11 PM EDT
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Anything but Dewalt. I bought one and cut one board with it, boxed it up and took it back. What garbage. I would assume a new saw should be smooth...not dewalt. You must have gotten a lemon as the Dewalt sliders are the standard by which others are judged. 
Mine travels as smooth as silk (assuming you mean the slide mechanism) and has no detectable slop. |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 5:21:23 PM EDT
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I used theDeWalt for years cutting crown and molding for cabinet installation.
Also used it around the house for cutting whatever. Beat the crap out of it and it never skipped a beat. There are more expensive saws, but I don't think there is a better value. Used professionally, worked perfectly. I'll be buying another soon. My fucking miterz are perfect yo!! 
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Posted: 11/30/2015 1:24:44 AM EDT
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It realy depends on what he may use for. If he does lots of projects, that should meet his needs. If not, it may beon the. large side for him. Also, try to keep in mind that the bigger saws are heavier and not fun to move around. They work much better for foxed positions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any opinions on this 12" dual bevel Craftsman? Christmas present for my pops if it's decent, he always bitches that his current saw can't cut through a 4x4 in one cut without repositioning it. Shows on sale for $380, and there is a $35 discount code somewhere online my wife said too, so should be $350ish http://m.craftsman.com/details/guest/00918629000P?sid=IDxCMDFx20140801x001 Thanks. He will make a new bench to put it on, one of the ones where the saw is sunken in I'm sure. Went ahead and ordered it, and then one for myself just because. Won't move mine much, but have a bunch of projects that I want to do in the future so figured might as well buy one now to be ready for them. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 8:19:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks. He will make a new bench to put it on, one of the ones where the saw is sunken in I'm sure. Went ahead and ordered it, and then one for myself just because. Won't move mine much, but have a bunch of projects that I want to do in the future so figured might as well buy one now to be ready for them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Any opinions on this 12" dual bevel Craftsman? Christmas present for my pops if it's decent, he always bitches that his current saw can't cut through a 4x4 in one cut without repositioning it. Shows on sale for $380, and there is a $35 discount code somewhere online my wife said too, so should be $350ish http://m.craftsman.com/details/guest/00918629000P?sid=IDxCMDFx20140801x001 Thanks. He will make a new bench to put it on, one of the ones where the saw is sunken in I'm sure. Went ahead and ordered it, and then one for myself just because. Won't move mine much, but have a bunch of projects that I want to do in the future so figured might as well buy one now to be ready for them.  |
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Posted: 12/5/2015 7:07:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dewalt 12 in if you shop around a little you won't go much over you 450 price. They are worth it. This what I have. It bevels one way. It was $299 from Amazon. Some advice from someone that uses one almost everyday: If you don't need a 12" don't get it. The 10" will cut 90% of trim and lumber. Plus its a hell of lot lighter to lug around, believe me! I got the 12" thinking it will be good to cut large crown moulding and 4x6 and 6x6 lumber. Wrong! I almost never cut it and when I do, I can double cut it on a 10". I do a lot of 1- 3 day lobs. The amount of lifting and carrying a 12" saw gets old fast! ETA: Just saw you were referring to a slide combo. My post still applies. Unless you consistently cut larger material, get the 10". |
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Posted: 12/7/2015 9:00:05 AM EDT
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I have this one and so far I'm impressed. currently cutting 6" crown for the house: http://www.lowes.com/pd_358936-46069-SM3055LW___?productId=3512781&pl=1&Ntt=compound+miter+saws http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a533/rwilkins01/miter%20saw_zpskgkgseu6.jpg ETA: $299 at local lowe's Mine won't stay square for shit. I have to adjust it repeatedly, and I can barely use any downward force on the handle or else it twists the vertical axis cut. Maybe I got a crappy one. It has plenty of power but I'm irked about the precision. |
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Posted: 12/7/2015 10:27:20 PM EDT
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I've had really good success with my Dewalt (slightly older model, no laser/shadow line). My father has a Harbor Frieght and it works, but its a bit sloppy and frustrating to rely on if you are doing anything other than the roughest of framing.
The Creme' de la Creme' is of course the Festool Kapex, but its damn near $1300. The Boch units are VERY nice, a bit pricer that average, but they make up for it in a permanent or bench mount because you don't have to worry about the back space. Boch 10" They make a 12" as well. |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 12:09:41 PM EDT
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I have a 12" Rigid non-sliding one...wish I had bought the 10". Blades for 12" are much more expensive, and not as many choices. I also end up bringing the blade down to check my cut line, the laser mounts to the arbor and only comes on when spinning, and seems to move closer to the blade as you get closer to the work. Really got tired of trying to adjust it.
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Posted: 12/9/2015 4:03:51 PM EDT
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Mine won't stay square for shit. I have to adjust it repeatedly, and I can barely use any downward force on the handle or else it twists the vertical axis cut. Maybe I got a crappy one. It has plenty of power but I'm irked about the precision. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have this one and so far I'm impressed. currently cutting 6" crown for the house: http://www.lowes.com/pd_358936-46069-SM3055LW___?productId=3512781&pl=1&Ntt=compound+miter+saws http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a533/rwilkins01/miter%20saw_zpskgkgseu6.jpg ETA: $299 at local lowe's Mine won't stay square for shit. I have to adjust it repeatedly, and I can barely use any downward force on the handle or else it twists the vertical axis cut. Maybe I got a crappy one. It has plenty of power but I'm irked about the precision. Nope. I had the same problem. I had a Craftsman, but the Kobalt and Chicago Electric (Harbor Freight) brands appear to use the same metal parts (the plastic moldings change color and shape depending on the brand). I tried to get away with buying cheap and it didn't work out. I replaced mine with a Dewalt DW715 (single bevel, 12", non-slider) for about the same price as I spent on the Craftsman 10" slider. It has been a great saw. I'll get a sliding compound miter saw one day, but until then, the dw715 is working well. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 4:12:38 PM EDT
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I have the Makita 10" sliding compound mitre. I don't have a lot of use for it but it's awesome when I need it.
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Posted: 12/12/2015 9:07:50 AM EDT
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I have the Makita 10" sliding compound mitre. I don't have a lot of use for it but it's awesome when I need it. I also have a Makita 10" sliding compound miter saw. I've been very happy with its cut accuracy and results. |
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Posted: 12/13/2015 2:41:40 AM EDT
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I saw a brand new Ryobi 12" Sliding compound miter saw at Home Depot. Looked really nice and gets great reviews. 299$. Anyone tried one? Also, how much more does a 12" sliding get you over a 10" sliding?
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Posted: 12/16/2015 8:22:54 AM EDT
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Get a Dewalt 12" on sale.
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Posted: 12/18/2015 10:22:20 PM EDT
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This is what I have, I love it.. It's portable if you want it to be but makes a decent garage shop set up as well.. Spend the money and get a decent set of blades for it and you cant go wrong. |
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Posted: 12/18/2015 10:36:24 PM EDT
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http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/400/18/18946ad6-1fd5-456a-91bd-3ab6ff827668_400.jpg This is what I have, I love it.. It's portable if you want it to be but makes a decent garage shop set up as well.. Spend the money and get a decent set of blades for it and you cant go wrong. I bought a nice Freud blade for mine, but the 80-tooth that came on it makes nice cuts (smooth like they've been sanded) so I haven't put it on yet. You can't beat the Dewalt 12" slider with a stick. 
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Posted: 12/18/2015 10:42:17 PM EDT
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I bought my father the DeWalt from Lowes and used a 20% off coupon from Harbor Freight. It was on sale for $299, minus the $60 off, got it for $240 before taxes.
Can't beat that deal anywhere! |
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Posted: 12/19/2015 1:56:41 PM EDT
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See the annual tool review from Fine Homebuilding and Wood magazines.
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Posted: 12/21/2015 10:40:05 PM EDT
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I have a 10 inch craftsman sliding saw and it's been good for whatever I have used it for. I know it's not the best and it not the worst is why I got it. I have had it maybe 4 years and use it for rough framing in my shop.
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Posted: 1/9/2016 11:43:05 PM EDT
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Update - I chose the Hitatchi C8FSHE. It's only 8-1/2", but it can crosscut a 12" board like at 10" saw. And it has a laser which I really wanted. It's only single-bevel, but it's more than enough for my needs. And it weighs only 32 pounds.
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Posted: 1/10/2016 12:05:13 PM EDT
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http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/400/18/18946ad6-1fd5-456a-91bd-3ab6ff827668_400.jpg This is what I have, I love it.. It's portable if you want it to be but makes a decent garage shop set up as well.. Spend the money and get a decent set of blades for it and you cant go wrong. This is what I came to post. You can often find the saw on sale and comes with the free stand. Put a nice Freud diablo blade on it and make some tight miters look perfect |
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Posted: 2/2/2016 7:59:45 PM EDT
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Hitachi C8FB2........had longer tubes/rails made it'll do 16" square cuts,after determining the angle of crown moulding and what bevel needs to be its one the tradesmen choose.........there probably are bigger blades,dual bevel,8 1/2" blades aren't easy to find=it's still goodtogo
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