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Posted: 8/31/2007 7:34:11 PM EDT
Article IX (page 37, NRA Bylaws as of Jan 7, 2006) provides that members who are eligible to vote, can petition to remove (in this case) a Director by having a recall vote. It then outlines the procedure to be followed.

Does anyone know if this has been initiated yet? If not, I am willing to submit that petition but I'll need several bits of information to comply with the Bylaws. I'll need a minimum of 450 vote eligible members from at least three states, 100 sigs per state to count as a representative state. I'll need their name, address, member ID#, signature, and date of signing. Address should be the address of record originally supplied to the NRA so they can cross check and make sure all is legit and according to the Bylaw. Don't send all that yet, I'll create a format that signatories will need to create then print out and sign then mail (or fax?) to me.

Any interest? If so PM me.
Link Posted: 8/31/2007 7:45:58 PM EDT
Why?
Link Posted: 8/31/2007 8:52:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/31/2007 8:59:37 PM EDT by Jeff82]
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Originally Posted By FedDC:
Why?
Because the info is semi-private and I'd rather not have folks send it in the open. Besides, it'll need to be on a sheet with all the pertinent info so it will "count".

But first I'll need to know if a petition has already been started.

More here:

http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=607375&page=10

http://glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=a755c981d2e57c622a6166b6982bca88&postid=8860117#post8860117

http://glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=a755c981d2e57c622a6166b6982bca88&threadid=741776&perpage=25&highlight=&pagenumber=1
Link Posted: 8/31/2007 8:59:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FedDC:
Why?


Whatever, cop.

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Link Posted: 8/31/2007 9:01:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Jeff82:

Originally Posted By FedDC:
Why?
Because the info is semi-private and I'd rather not have folks send it in the open. Besides, it'll need to be on a sheet with all the pertinent info so it will "count".

But first I'll need to know if a petition has already been started.

More here:

http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=607375&page=10

http://glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=a755c981d2e57c622a6166b6982bca88&postid=8860117#post8860117

http://glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=a755c981d2e57c622a6166b6982bca88&threadid=741776&perpage=25&highlight=&pagenumber=1



semi-private ? No thanks!
Link Posted: 9/1/2007 7:15:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/1/2007 7:18:10 AM EDT by son_of_76]
First of all, I am not a member of the NRA-was at one time, but did not renew. However, for those who are members I would hope that they would initiate some means of removing JJ from the Board of Directors. His obvious stance on gun rights and his recent activities in an effort to close firearms factories and gunshops betrays any support the general membership has for the organization's stated purpose-the protection of gun owners' rights. I am not interested in beginning a round of NRA bashing, but if the NRA would take action to eliminate the influence of the anti gun element from their upper echelon of management, such as JJ, it may do well to remove some of the stigma associated with complaints against it. If JJ has succeeded in gaining a positition on the Board then there must be others in positions of leadership within the NRA who share his political goals with regard to 2nd Amendment issues.
Link Posted: 9/1/2007 7:17:32 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/1/2007 7:20:02 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/1/2007 7:23:40 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/1/2007 7:24:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

Originally Posted By son_of_76:
First of all, I am not a member of the NRA-was at one time, but did not renew. However, for those who are members I would hope that they would initiate some means of removing JJ from the Board of Directors. His obvious stance on gun rights and his recent activities in an effort to close firearms factories and gunshops betrays any support the general membership has for the organization's stated purpose-the protection of gun owners' rights. I am not interested in beginning a round of NRA bashing, but if the NRA would take action to eliminate the influence of the anti gun element from their upper echelon of management, such as JJ, it may do well to remove some of the stigma associated with complaints against it. If JJ has succeeded in gaining a positition on the Board then there must be others in positions of leadership within the NRA who share his political goals with regard to 2nd Amendment issues.


Thanks for the correction. Please accept my apologies.



this isn't the REV jesse jackson
Link Posted: 9/1/2007 7:25:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By son_of_76:

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

Originally Posted By son_of_76:
First of all, I am not a member of the NRA-was at one time, but did not renew. However, for those who are members I would hope that they would initiate some means of removing JJ from the Board of Directors. His obvious stance on gun rights and his recent activities in an effort to close firearms factories and gunshops betrays any support the general membership has for the organization's stated purpose-the protection of gun owners' rights. I am not interested in beginning a round of NRA bashing, but if the NRA would take action to eliminate the influence of the anti gun element from their upper echelon of management, such as JJ, it may do well to remove some of the stigma associated with complaints against it. If JJ has succeeded in gaining a positition on the Board then there must be others in positions of leadership within the NRA who share his political goals with regard to 2nd Amendment issues.





this isn't the REV jesse jackson



Thanks for the correction. Please accept my apologies.

Link Posted: 9/2/2007 6:20:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ar15_rifleman:
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Originally Posted By Jeff82:
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Originally Posted By FedDC:
Why?
Because the info is semi-private and I'd rather not have folks send it in the open. Besides, it'll need to be on a sheet with all the pertinent info so it will "count".

But first I'll need to know if a petition has already been started.

More here:

http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=607375&page=10

http://glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=a755c981d2e57c622a6166b6982bca88&postid=8860117#post8860117

http://glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=a755c981d2e57c622a6166b6982bca88&threadid=741776&perpage=25&highlight=&pagenumber=1



semi-private ? No thanks! hrase
Hopefully it's a little clearer now. :)
Link Posted: 9/2/2007 6:39:19 AM EDT
tag for outcome. NRA life member.
Link Posted: 9/8/2007 4:38:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/8/2007 4:39:20 AM EDT by 2FALable]
Petition... Bah, Zumbo made one little blog entry and was destroyed for it. An unfortunate neccesity.

The NRA supports the insane bolstering of the NCIC check system, which will in the end be used to take every child who's been given drugs or in anyway labeled as ADD or a host of other "issues" and eventually deny them the right to bear arms... Sure laugh now, I could care less. I'm 100% confident I'll be proven right in time...


Then JJ makes comments like this and people have to talk about petitions? If the NRA can't keep the house clean on their own, then they are complicit.

Boycott the NRA and join some group that actually defends the 2nd Amendment. For that matter I'd rather support Zumbo who has at least seen the light with regards to ARs than to continue to pay dues to a group that claims to work to defend my rights, while instead burying them.

There should be no petition required here, retribution from the NRA should have been shift and efficient. Unless of course you support the position stated.

If you haven't seen the video and want to here's a direct link.

Video
Link Posted: 9/9/2007 7:53:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 2FALable:
Petition... Bah, Zumbo made one little blog entry and was destroyed for it. An unfortunate neccesity.

The NRA supports the insane bolstering of the NCIC check system, which will in the end be used to take every child who's been given drugs or in anyway labeled as ADD or a host of other "issues" and eventually deny them the right to bear arms... Sure laugh now, I could care less. I'm 100% confident I'll be proven right in time...


Then JJ makes comments like this and people have to talk about petitions? If the NRA can't keep the house clean on their own, then they are complicit.

Boycott the NRA and join some group that actually defends the 2nd Amendment. For that matter I'd rather support Zumbo who has at least seen the light with regards to ARs than to continue to pay dues to a group that claims to work to defend my rights, while instead burying them.

There should be no petition required here, retribution from the NRA should have been shift and efficient. Unless of course you support the position stated.

If you haven't seen the video and want to here's a direct link.

Video
To you and all: I understand your position, however I'd ask you, according to the established and approved bylaws, how is the "NRA" (assuming you think it's someone other than the entire membership) going to police JJ? Obviously the board can't do anything to him as he was elected by the voting members, so just how is the "NRA" to do anything?

"Retribution," "keeping the house clean"? How? What do you think a petition is? In case you haven't read the bylaws (don't know how you'd have a copy as you've admitted you aren't a member) a petition is the first step in THE VOTING MEMBERS TO "CLEAN HOUSE", as you put it.

Your comments indicate a complete distrust and abandonment of (if you were ever in) the NRA. I understand completely. I've had some of those same feeling myself a time or two. Your comments also indicate you haven't a clue as to how the club is operated. I realized that the NRA is me, and 4 million+ others. If the Board isn't doing right then it's OUR fault by lack of oversight. WE can get JJ off the board BUT we must follow the bylaws we agreed to upon taking our membership. So, as you can't fault a snake for being a snake, you can't fault the politicians WE elect to our board for being politicians. VOTE THEM OUT! IT"S OUR CLUB! The fault rests on the voting members who fail to rise up in occasions like this and take action. It wouldn't be long before ALL members, Board or otherwise, would know what happens when you stand against ANY part of the Bill of Rights.

And for those who are counting I've had THREE people contact me in support. You wanna know why America is losing it's rights? LAZY COMFORTABLE AMERICANS. No other reason. (Well, one other reason; up to one half of voting America are, by definition, enemies of this country and are actively pursuing an agenda to turn this country into a new socialist state.)
Link Posted: 9/9/2007 9:42:30 PM EDT
He needs to go. But I'm not a voting member. At least I don't think so. How do you become a voting member? Lifetime membership?
Link Posted: 9/9/2007 10:20:36 PM EDT
tag
Link Posted: 9/10/2007 9:54:52 AM EDT
Let me know when you're ready, and I'll send you my info (NRA Life member).

Thanks for leading this!
Link Posted: 9/10/2007 5:16:38 PM EDT
Support seems to be growing, about 8 now. Trying to get the right answer on how/if physical signatures need to be sent as opposed to an online petition site that will send certified results.

Voting members are life or annual members with 5 or more consecutive years.

Standying by...

Jeff
Link Posted: 9/11/2007 5:21:21 PM EDT
Okay,

The petition is done and I've got it uploaded to a file share site.

I'm waiting on feedback from a prominent firearms group and Secretary Land of the NRA. I will make any necessary adjustments (if any received) or, if I don't hear anything back within a day or two I'll post the link which when clicked will download the Word doc to you.

All you guys will need to do then is print it out, fill it out, and mail it to my PO Box. I'll drive them up to NRA HQ and deliver them to Secretary Land.

Done deal at that point (as far as the petition goes).

If the petition is validated then a Hearing Board will be elected and will take and review all evidence before writing an opinion. This could be a majority and minority view if the Board finds itself on each side. This will be included with the recall ballot. This will be sent out with the regular printed ballot at least 45 days prior to the next Annual Meeting.

Remember, according to the Bylaws we need:

-at least 450 signatures total
-at least 100 from three different states
-signatures must be from Life or Annual members with 5 or more years consecutive membership.

Print out a bunch and take them to your local gunshows and ranges/clubs!!

I just tested the DL (download) and it works like a charm!

Standby!

Link Posted: 9/13/2007 6:36:46 AM EDT
I am sorta confused. Is this a petition for the removal of Jesse Jackson on the BoD? If it is, are we SURE this THE REV Jesse Jackson?
Link Posted: 9/13/2007 7:10:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ceadmin:
I am sorta confused. Is this a petition for the removal of Jesse Jackson on the BoD? If it is, are we SURE this THE REV Jesse Jackson?
That'sa big negative on "Jesse Jackson" Ghostrider. We're talking about Joaquin Jackson, former Texas Ranger who is currently sitting on the NRA Board of Directors (his term expires 2010.)

Update: Talked to NRA Secretary Jim Land today. He's made some corrections to my petition form which I will finalize on Monday after receiving a faxed "standard form" to compare it to. Regardless, by Monday night I'll have the petition up and ready for download for you all to use. Spread the word and the petition! We must not let, no matter how nice a guy they may be, a person with any desire to limit the civilian ownership.use of small arms sit on the NRA BoD. Period.

Mr. Land told me we have to have the petition in to him NLT early Dec in order for it to make it into the printing process for the March magazine. I'd like to get it in by early Nov as there is a certain amount of time allowed for the hearing and it's opinion to be conducted and I don't want them to run out of time!
Link Posted: 9/17/2007 10:43:43 PM EDT
Here it is: Petition to Recall Joaquin Jackson

This is a hot link so you click it and it should download to your computer. It's a Word doc.

You'll get the first page which is the petition and two follow on pages with additional info as to why I'm doing this. (If you've followed this thread on GT then you already know. here
Get this around to gun shows, clubs, ranges etc. We need to act fairly quickly as this needs to get in in time to make the print deadline for the next annual meeting. We've got about two months.

Can we make this a sticky for the next two months or so? Thanks.
Link Posted: 9/17/2007 10:47:40 PM EDT
I remember when I got my ballot at the last election, I asked here if anybody knew who the "good guys" were.

I got 3 or 4 responses telling me Nuge and Ollie (which I knew). Next ballot I hope there can be some information of value to those with BRD.
Link Posted: 9/17/2007 10:56:23 PM EDT
Neal Knox went down this road years ago. The gentleman has passed on now but his son has taken the reins. Jeff Knox at Firearms Coalition. They will usually put out a list of 15 or so "good" folks. This list is usually in the Shoitgun News. They advocate voting for ONLY those 15 or so instead of the 25 that come up for reelection so as not to water down the effect of your ballot.

I see this petition procedure as the last step to regaining control of the NRA and having OUR club do OUR (the vast membership's) bidding. Given one voice, 4 million+ can effect firearms law in this country. We really need to put our all in this as if we don't there's really only one other step left.
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