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Posted: 7/29/2012 7:35:57 PM

Originally Posted By locknload:
Originally Posted By resteva:
Hard to vilify a true American Hero.

Unlike Mr.Ryan, who signed up to fight for his country and now seems embarrassed to have done so.
And "the tool" who agrees with Mr. Ryan.
And of course who can forget "locknload's" comment about those of us who do not wear blinders, "Sane people can only take so much of your bat shit crazy tribal thinking justification"

Yes, these are the "sheeple" who have brought or Country to the edge of the cliff. These are the losers who will once again evaporate into the ether. These are the "takers" whose ass is being kicked.


This is what America needs now more than ever, and I for one am proud to say, "This man speaks for me".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CVK4c2qu3M&feature=player_embedded


You got me with Allen West, this uncle tom makes Bachman look like a card carrying liberal. Sign me up for the free lobotomy . LOL!!!! When Pat Buchannon starts to say the conservatives are in trouble, it should resonate. This "Sheeple" is glad to take any insult from u. Its like listening to the insane call people nuts. "The meek shall inherit the Earth". or is it "The , 2nd ammendment loving, anti-tax , dog eat dog capitalist, small business first, people should just die without insurance, fags are evil, if u are not a success its your own damn fault, wrap yourself in the flag, home schooled, shall inherit the earth"
more liberal tolerance,you should be banned for your for having your head planted to fucking deep up your ass that you will
spout your racist crap in open forum

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Posted: 7/30/2012 10:12:05 AM
Originally Posted By locknload:
Originally Posted By resteva:
Hard to vilify a true American Hero.

Unlike Mr.Ryan, who signed up to fight for his country and now seems embarrassed to have done so.
And "the tool" who agrees with Mr. Ryan.
And of course who can forget "locknload's" comment about those of us who do not wear blinders, "Sane people can only take so much of your bat shit crazy tribal thinking justification"

Yes, these are the "sheeple" who have brought or Country to the edge of the cliff. These are the losers who will once again evaporate into the ether. These are the "takers" whose ass is being kicked.


This is what America needs now more than ever, and I for one am proud to say, "This man speaks for me".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CVK4c2qu3M&feature=player_embedded


You got me with Allen West, this uncle tom makes Bachman look like a card carrying liberal. Sign me up for the free lobotomy . LOL!!!! When Pat Buchannon starts to say the conservatives are in trouble, it should resonate. This "Sheeple" is glad to take any insult from u. Its like listening to the insane call people nuts. "The meek shall inherit the Earth". or is it "The , 2nd ammendment loving, anti-tax , dog eat dog capitalist, small business first, people should just die without insurance, fags are evil, if u are not a success its your own damn fault, wrap yourself in the flag, home schooled, shall inherit the earth"



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Enought of the insults, people.

As regards Colonel West, Please report back after you call him an "Uncle Tom" to his face.
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Enought of the insults, people.

As regards Colonel West, Please report back after you call him an "Uncle Tom" to his face.


I'd pay $1,000.00 to see that!
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Go and reassure her that it's ok. Even fat, ugly women will make almost any man ejaculate.
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Posted: 7/31/2012 3:14:19 PM
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Both the FrontPage article and the PJmedia article don't understand and/or is intentionally misrepresenting MB(Muslim Brotherhood) and Islam.

Only a very tiny percentage of Moslems believe in strict sharia law. In fact, out of those who claim to believe in sharia law, once they learn what it entails, don't want it. FWIW, the same thing is true for Christianity.

Very few Christians would actually want to live in a strict theocratic, biblical Christian state. E.g., enforcing infidelity as a criminal violation against the state.

Lot of folks join MB not because they believe in strict sharia law but because of social good/charity/medical help/nationalism that it represents. If you were illiterate and poor and MB provided basic schooling for your kids and medical treatment for your wife, what would you do?

In fact, lot of folks in Afganistan who fought against Taliban now backs Taliban instead of Karzai's government due to endemic corruption, not because they believe in sharia law.

Furthermore, in politically competitive environment, Muslim Brotherhood have proven to bend sharia law to suit what local populace wants. E.g., loosening strict Islamic injunction against interest payment.

Second, a representative republic, theocratic Muslim state supporting strict sharia law is not politically possible because most electorate are against it and will vote their preference in the ballot box.

The only way sharia/theocracy can be implemented is if theocrats band together with military that is backing them up. This is clearly not the case in Egypt. Egyptian military has clearly made it know that they will NOT TOLERATE strict theocracy promoting sharia laws.






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Posted: 7/31/2012 4:18:50 PM
Originally Posted By theinvisibleheart:
Both the FrontPage article and the PJmedia article don't understand and/or is intentionally misrepresenting MB(Muslim Brotherhood) and Islam.

Only a very tiny percentage of Moslems believe in strict sharia law. In fact, out of those who claim to believe in sharia law, once they learn what it entails, don't want it. FWIW, the same thing is true for Christianity.

Very few Christians would actually want to live in a strict theocratic, biblical Christian state. E.g., enforcing infidelity as a criminal violation against the state.

Lot of folks join MB not because they believe in strict sharia law but because of social good/charity/medical help/nationalism that it represents. If you were illiterate and poor and MB provided basic schooling for your kids and medical treatment for your wife, what would you do?

In fact, lot of folks in Afganistan who fought against Taliban now backs Taliban instead of Karzai's government due to endemic corruption, not because they believe in sharia law.

Furthermore, in political competitive environment, Muslim Brotherhood have proven to bend sharia law to suit what local populace wants. E.g., loosening strict Islamic injunction against interest payment.

Second, a representative republic, theocratic Muslim state supporting strict sharia law is not politically possible because most electorate are against it and will vote their preference in the ballot box.

The only way sharia/theocracy can be implemented is if theocrats band together with military that is backing them up. This is clearly not the case in Egypt. Egyptian military has clearly made it know that they will NOT TOLERATE strict theocracy promoting sharia laws.








Give us your source.
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you need to get your information from multiplicity of sources, not just ones that spout POV/info that you like.

Over the years, there have being numerous studies/interviews/surveys regarding Taliban/AQ/Islam/living condition, corruption in Afghanistan under Karzai/etc.

If all you do is congregate primarily among folks who hold similar POV/bias and only listen to sources that spout POV that you agree with, you are likely to live with extremely prejudiced and highly inaccurate, as well as unrealistic POV.

When Parameters(official quarterly journal of War College) reviewed popular conservative literature regarding Islam, they found out that it was highly biased and not accurate at all, historically speaking.

There was a recent article in Reuters regarding Muslim Brotherhood's electoral success and what they plan to do politically in Egypt: hint, it's not literal sharia law but highly watered one because most folks in Egypt cared about economic progress, not religious purity.

In a republican form of government, even when religious extremists get voted in, they can't force their social view on the people unless majority of the folks agree with their POV. The only exception to this is if religious extremists in power hold military power, which is not the case in Egypt. Egyptian military, while being composed of Moslems, is secular.

There have being numerous studies/articles/research papers over the years(not just one or two) regarding suicide bombers, why folks join Taliban, etc. Hint: it's not because of religion but due to social injustice and lack of economic opportunity, as well as military issue like seeing foreign military in their own home country as being equivalent to foreign military occupation.

Lastly, Bachman just came out and announced that she decided to work with Ellison, after accusing him of familial ties to terrorist organization known as Muslim Brotherhood. Does this mean we can now accuse Bachman of ties to Muslim Brotherhood because she works with a guy with familial ties to Muslim Brotherhood?

So who's being played for patsy?

FWIW, Hamas in their home territory is also well known for social work.

Originally Posted By resteva:
Originally Posted By theinvisibleheart:
Both the FrontPage article and the PJmedia article don't understand and/or is intentionally misrepresenting MB(Muslim Brotherhood) and Islam.

Only a very tiny percentage of Moslems believe in strict sharia law. In fact, out of those who claim to believe in sharia law, once they learn what it entails, don't want it. FWIW, the same thing is true for Christianity.

Very few Christians would actually want to live in a strict theocratic, biblical Christian state. E.g., enforcing infidelity as a criminal violation against the state.

Lot of folks join MB not because they believe in strict sharia law but because of social good/charity/medical help/nationalism that it represents. If you were illiterate and poor and MB provided basic schooling for your kids and medical treatment for your wife, what would you do?

In fact, lot of folks in Afganistan who fought against Taliban now backs Taliban instead of Karzai's government due to endemic corruption, not because they believe in sharia law.

Furthermore, in political competitive environment, Muslim Brotherhood have proven to bend sharia law to suit what local populace wants. E.g., loosening strict Islamic injunction against interest payment.

Second, a representative republic, theocratic Muslim state supporting strict sharia law is not politically possible because most electorate are against it and will vote their preference in the ballot box.

The only way sharia/theocracy can be implemented is if theocrats band together with military that is backing them up. This is clearly not the case in Egypt. Egyptian military has clearly made it know that they will NOT TOLERATE strict theocracy promoting sharia laws.








Give us your source.


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Originally Posted By theinvisibleheart:

When Parameters(official quarterly journal of War College) reviewed popular conservative literature regarding Islam, they found out that it was highly biased and not accurate at all, historically speaking.





You obviously don't understand how politically correct many in senior leadership within the military are, remember the CSA said following the attack at Ft Hood the worse thing that could happen was it could effect diversity.

And as has been proven by the sidelining of Gen Boykin speaking out against Islam leads to sanctioning.

In the real world off-campus, good marksmanship trumps good will.
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Originally Posted By theinvisibleheart:
Both the FrontPage article and the PJmedia article don't understand and/or is intentionally misrepresenting MB(Muslim Brotherhood) and Islam.

Only a very tiny percentage of Moslems believe in strict sharia law. In fact, out of those who claim to believe in sharia law, once they learn what it entails, don't want it. FWIW, the same thing is true for Christianity.

Very few Christians would actually want to live in a strict theocratic, biblical Christian state. E.g., enforcing infidelity as a criminal violation against the state.

Lot of folks join MB not because they believe in strict sharia law but because of social good/charity/medical help/nationalism that it represents. If you were illiterate and poor and MB provided basic schooling for your kids and medical treatment for your wife, what would you do?

In fact, lot of folks in Afganistan who fought against Taliban now backs Taliban instead of Karzai's government due to endemic corruption, not because they believe in sharia law.

Furthermore, in political competitive environment, Muslim Brotherhood have proven to bend sharia law to suit what local populace wants. E.g., loosening strict Islamic injunction against interest payment.

Second, a representative republic, theocratic Muslim state supporting strict sharia law is not politically possible because most electorate are against it and will vote their preference in the ballot box.

The only way sharia/theocracy can be implemented is if theocrats band together with military that is backing them up. This is clearly not the case in Egypt. Egyptian military has clearly made it know that they will NOT TOLERATE strict theocracy promoting sharia laws.








You completely fail to understand the Muslim Brotherhood. The Muslim Brotherhood is the parent organization to Al Qaeda. AQ grew out of the radical Islam that the MB organization espouses and indoctrinates its followers in.

The MB is not a charitable organization –– they're an organization that trained AQ's senior leadership and brought terrorism as a tool of policy to the middle east.
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I often go bass fishing, sometimes I wait too long to set the hook and this results in the" hook, line and sinker" being swallowed by theinvis the fish.

Whenever this happens, I simply cut the line and let the fish go.


Originally Posted By theinvisibleheart:
you need to get your information from multiplicity of sources, not just ones that spout POV/info that you like.

Over the years, there have being numerous studies/interviews/surveys regarding Taliban/AQ/Islam/living condition, corruption in Afghanistan under Karzai/etc.

If all you do is congregate primarily among folks who hold similar POV/bias and only listen to sources that spout POV that you agree with, you are likely to live with extremely prejudiced and highly inaccurate, as well as unrealistic POV.

When Parameters(official quarterly journal of War College) reviewed popular conservative literature regarding Islam, they found out that it was highly biased and not accurate at all, historically speaking.

There was a recent article in Reuters regarding Muslim Brotherhood's electoral success and what they plan to do politically in Egypt: hint, it's not literal sharia law but highly watered one because most folks in Egypt cared about economic progress, not religious purity.

In a republican form of government, even when religious extremists get voted in, they can't force their social view on the people unless majority of the folks agree with their POV. The only exception to this is if religious extremists in power hold military power, which is not the case in Egypt. Egyptian military, while being composed of Moslems, is secular.

There have being numerous studies/articles/research papers over the years(not just one or two) regarding suicide bombers, why folks join Taliban, etc. Hint: it's not because of religion but due to social injustice and lack of economic opportunity, as well as military issue like seeing foreign military in their own home country as being equivalent to foreign military occupation.

Lastly, Bachman just came out and announced that she decided to work with Ellison, after accusing him of familial ties to terrorist organization known as Muslim Brotherhood. Does this mean we can now accuse Bachman of ties to Muslim Brotherhood because she works with a guy with familial ties to Muslim Brotherhood?

So who's being played for patsy?

FWIW, Hamas in their home territory is also well known for social work.

Originally Posted By resteva:
Originally Posted By theinvisibleheart:
Both the FrontPage article and the PJmedia article don't understand and/or is intentionally misrepresenting MB(Muslim Brotherhood) and Islam.

Only a very tiny percentage of Moslems believe in strict sharia law. In fact, out of those who claim to believe in sharia law, once they learn what it entails, don't want it. FWIW, the same thing is true for Christianity.

Very few Christians would actually want to live in a strict theocratic, biblical Christian state. E.g., enforcing infidelity as a criminal violation against the state.

Lot of folks join MB not because they believe in strict sharia law but because of social good/charity/medical help/nationalism that it represents. If you were illiterate and poor and MB provided basic schooling for your kids and medical treatment for your wife, what would you do?

In fact, lot of folks in Afganistan who fought against Taliban now backs Taliban instead of Karzai's government due to endemic corruption, not because they believe in sharia law.

Furthermore, in political competitive environment, Muslim Brotherhood have proven to bend sharia law to suit what local populace wants. E.g., loosening strict Islamic injunction against interest payment.

Second, a representative republic, theocratic Muslim state supporting strict sharia law is not politically possible because most electorate are against it and will vote their preference in the ballot box.

The only way sharia/theocracy can be implemented is if theocrats band together with military that is backing them up. This is clearly not the case in Egypt. Egyptian military has clearly made it know that they will NOT TOLERATE strict theocracy promoting sharia laws.








Give us your source.




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I WONT RESIST THE TEMPTATION






Originally Posted By theinvisibleheart:
Both the FrontPage article and the PJmedia article don't understand and/or is intentionally misrepresenting MB(Muslim Brotherhood) and Islam.

Only a very tiny percentage of Moslems believe in strict sharia law. In fact, out of those who claim to believe in sharia law, once they learn what it entails, don't want it. FWIW, the same thing is true for Christianity.

Very few Christians would actually want to live in a strict theocratic, biblical Christian state. E.g., enforcing infidelity as a criminal violation against the state.

Lot of folks join MB not because they believe in strict sharia law but because of social good/charity/medical help/nationalism that it represents. If you were illiterate and poor and MB provided basic schooling for your kids and medical treatment for your wife, what would you do?

In fact, lot of folks in Afganistan who fought against Taliban now backs Taliban instead of Karzai's government due to endemic corruption, not because they believe in sharia law.

Furthermore, in political competitive environment, Muslim Brotherhood have proven to bend sharia law to suit what local populace wants. E.g., loosening strict Islamic injunction against interest payment.

Second, a representative republic, theocratic Muslim state supporting strict sharia law is not politically possible because most electorate are against it and will vote their preference in the ballot box.

The only way sharia/theocracy can be implemented is if theocrats band together with military that is backing them up. This is clearly not the case in Egypt. Egyptian military has clearly made it know that they will NOT TOLERATE strict theocracy promoting sharia laws.








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There isn't one single definition of sharia law/implementation even across extreme far right segment of Islam.

Like Christianity, Islam isn't a monolithic entity. Even among Protestant denomination, there are numerous branches/splits in Christianity and it's no less in Islam.

Apart from Shi'a/Sunni split, interpretation of Islam, liberal or puritanical, differs greatly even among one sect like Sunni, e.g., interpretation of Islam b/w Sunni Kurds and Sunnis in Saudi Arabia. Watch how Kurds who are Sunni interpret Koran/Islam/religious living and how Sunni in Saudi Arabia do.

For example, Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt is now claiming that their interpretation of sharia law is going to be loose in that head covering is going to be voluntary and banking interest, as well as many other practice, is going to be OK(not against sharia). Contrast that with sharia interpretation in Sunni Saudi Arabia or Shi'a Iran.

In Afghanistan, while back, when they did a research on why folks were joining and supporting Taliban, it wasn't because of sharia law or Taliban's interpretation of sharia law implementation. It was because corruption/necessity of bribes under US backed Karzai government was bleeding the country dry and most folks were joining Taliban because that was the only way they can support their family or starve to death.

Also, outward support for sharia and actual support in private are vastly different thing. Take theocratic Iran today....there is a huge demand for things that goes against ultra strict interpretation of sharia law like liquor, makeup, etc. W/o religious police/enforcement, folks do not follow sharia law.

Regarding extreme Islamic religious fundamentalists, one major reason for religious extremism is due to relative lack of affordable, public, secular education. Without affordable public option, many folks get indoctrinated in religious schools. This is especially true in Pakistan.

FWIW, the same trend is seen in US. Guess how many folks who have background in molecular genetics at university level believe in Creationism vs. folks who go to religious, private, Christian school in good, ole USA?

FWIW, religious extremism tend to decrease with economic development and secular education.

Originally Posted By resteva:
I WONT RESIST THE TEMPTATION



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Check history of Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan and relationship b/w Muslim Brotherhood and Osama Bin Laden, as well as history of mujahedin in Afghanistan after fall of communist Afghan government in late 1980s.

At one point, US supported mujahedin movement in Afghanistan/forerunners of AQ via ISI in Pakistan, albeit for different reasons.

When communist Afghan government fell, there was a civil war/power struggle because different mujahedin segment(all Moslems) could not reach a political agreement. In fact, some Moslems fought against Taliban.

There was split/struggle b/w Osama Bin Laden and Muslim Brotherhood long ago.

Whether it's Buddhism, Christianity or Islam, apparently, it's very hard, if not impossible, to reach unity regarding religious belief.

When religious entities wielded political and military power, whether it's Christianity or Islam, it tends to cause military conflict.

FWIW, I doubt even Muslim Brotherhood is a monolithic entity. I bet different folks w/in it hold differing beliefs.



Originally Posted By Josh:
You completely fail to understand the Muslim Brotherhood. The Muslim Brotherhood is the parent organization to Al Qaeda. AQ grew out of the radical Islam that the MB organization espouses and indoctrinates its followers in.

The MB is not a charitable organization –– they're an organization that trained AQ's senior leadership and brought terrorism as a tool of policy to the middle east.

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1 Corinthians 1:27

But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
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Parameters publish forward looking article, not article supporting status quo. E.g., article making the case against defense expenditure based on fixed percentage but based on actual need.

Lot of the times, conservative position regarding history is that it has being tampered/changed and only "politically incorrect" conservative version is correct.

Problem is, when you compare it against professional peer reviewed material, it doesn't hold water.

Just like Creationism or the claim that evolution is a hoax.

Originally Posted By R0N:
Originally Posted By theinvisibleheart:

When Parameters(official quarterly journal of War College) reviewed popular conservative literature regarding Islam, they found out that it was highly biased and not accurate at all, historically speaking.





You obviously don't understand how politically correct many in senior leadership within the military are, remember the CSA said following the attack at Ft Hood the worse thing that could happen was it could effect diversity.

And as has been proven by the sidelining of Gen Boykin speaking out against Islam leads to sanctioning.



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look at context of that statement.

What are the odds that Muslim Brotherhood or that any religious entity, Christian, Buddhism, Islam, etc. is monolithic?

Close to zero.

Check religious history of Christianity and Islam, both before and after Reformation. It's full of internecine conflict.

When folks stop thinking and justifying bias based on religion, it's time to think.

The only reason religious violence in Christianity has stopped or dropped is due to separation of religion and politics, including military power.

If church still commanded political power and military might, concept of peace as we know it in the West will greatly change.

Even one religious sect like Sunni Moslems are not monolithic.

Or Christian sect like Church of Latter Day Saints(there are several divergences for those that did not know).

And if you claim that Church of Latter Day Saints are not 'Christian,' there are splits among other Christian denominations.

Originally Posted By StogerMan:
1 Corinthians 1:27

But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;


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you do know that Bachman just announced that she plans to work with Ellison, a Muslim, right? FWIW, before, Bachman accused Ellison of having ties to terrorism/financing of terrorism.

So Bachman now has ties to terrorism?

Or was Bachman trying to get free publicity/brownie points?

Originally Posted By resteva:
With the new rise of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, a certain individual with direct ties to said group has direct access to many of our top International secrets. In such a crazy world where up is down and vice-versa, how treasonous is it for the Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, to employ Mrs. Huma Weiner (yes Anthony's wife) as her right hand assistant?

Huma's parents are devout Muslim Brotherhood operatives, as well as her brother. Is it a coincidence that Hillary has placed such an individual as Huma, in a position to pass along to our foes, the type of information that the Secretary of State is privy to?

Michelle Bachman has the cojones to call it the way it is and as a result of her openness she gets crucified by so called Republican leaders, such as Boehner, McCain, and Scott Brown from Mass.
These individuals have their heads up their asses!

I give Rep. Bachman kudos for saying it the way she sees it.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/78741.html


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Newt Gingrich explains why Michelle Bachman,Trent Franks, Louie Gohmert, Tom Rooney and Lynn Westmoreland have it right.

In defense of Michele Bachmann, Muslim Brotherhood probes

http:///www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/79104.html

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Originally Posted By resteva:
Newt Gingrich explains why Michelle Bachman,Trent Franks, Louie Gohmert, Tom Rooney and Lynn Westmoreland have it right.

In defense of Michele Bachmann, Muslim Brotherhood probes

http:///www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/79104.html



the article is using mainly past association and history to make a point the present organization(Muslim Brotherhood) is monolithic and static.

It's also trying to make political brownie points.

It's not.

If sharia, Islam, and Muslim Brotherhood was monolithic and static, then Islam in Egypt vs. Saudi Arabia vs. Turkey vs. Iran would be similar or close to same. It's very different.

Islam among Kurds in Iraq and Sunni/Shi'a in Iraq are also different.

Interpretation of sharia itself is not fixed. In fact, Muslim Brotherhood itself is changing its position, including definition of sharia, to suit the population and political demand.



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Originally Posted By theinvisibleheart:
Parameters publish forward looking article, not article supporting status quo. E.g., article making the case against defense expenditure based on fixed percentage but based on actual need.

Lot of the times, conservative position regarding history is that it has being tampered/changed and only "politically incorrect" conservative version is correct.

Problem is, when you compare it against professional peer reviewed material, it doesn't hold water.

Just like Creationism or the claim that evolution is a hoax.

Originally Posted By R0N:
Originally Posted By theinvisibleheart:

When Parameters(official quarterly journal of War College) reviewed popular conservative literature regarding Islam, they found out that it was highly biased and not accurate at all, historically speaking.





You obviously don't understand how politically correct many in senior leadership within the military are, remember the CSA said following the attack at Ft Hood the worse thing that could happen was it could effect diversity.

And as has been proven by the sidelining of Gen Boykin speaking out against Islam leads to sanctioning.





You can rationalize as much as you want, but the military especially at the higher levels is PC. And for most part is blind to Islamists

Look at the case of Anwar Al-Aulaqi, who was brought in by DA to talk about muslim outreach, ten year later he was killed for being a leader in AQ.
In the real world off-campus, good marksmanship trumps good will.
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You are so wrong it is pathetic!

Why? Because I say you are!

There.



Originally Posted By theinvisibleheart:
Originally Posted By resteva:
Newt Gingrich explains why Michelle Bachman,Trent Franks, Louie Gohmert, Tom Rooney and Lynn Westmoreland have it right.

In defense of Michele Bachmann, Muslim Brotherhood probes

http:///www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/79104.html



the article is using mainly past association and history to make a point the present organization(Muslim Brotherhood) is monolithic and static.

It's also trying to make political brownie points.

It's not.

If sharia, Islam, and Muslim Brotherhood was monolithic and static, then Islam in Egypt vs. Saudi Arabia vs. Turkey vs. Iran would be similar or close to same. It's very different.

Islam among Kurds in Iraq and Sunni/Shi'a in Iraq are also different.

Interpretation of sharia itself is not fixed. In fact, Muslim Brotherhood itself is changing its position, including definition of sharia, to suit the population and political demand.





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Originally Posted By resteva:
Newt Gingrich explains why Michelle Bachman,Trent Franks, Louie Gohmert, Tom Rooney and Lynn Westmoreland have it right.

In defense of Michele Bachmann, Muslim Brotherhood probes

http:///www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/79104.html



the article is using mainly past association and history to make a point the present organization(Muslim Brotherhood) is monolithic and static.

It's also trying to make political brownie points.

It's not.

If sharia, Islam, and Muslim Brotherhood was monolithic and static, then Islam in Egypt vs. Saudi Arabia vs. Turkey vs. Iran would be similar or close to same. It's very different.

Islam among Kurds in Iraq and Sunni/Shi'a in Iraq are also different.

Interpretation of sharia itself is not fixed. In fact, Muslim Brotherhood itself is changing its position, including definition of sharia, to suit the population and political demand.





Where in the article did it state that that Islam is interpreted and practiced the same way throughout the world? If that was the writer's opinion, why did he use "radical Islamists," or variations of that term, rather than just the all inclusive: Islamists? Or why would he include information that illustrates that Islam is not unified and The Muslim Bortherhood is not monolithic. A direct quote from the article:

"Just Friday, the Dubai chief of police warned about a Muslim Brotherhood effort to take over the emirates and seize their oil and natural gas wealth."




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Originally Posted By safe1:
Sharkman,

Don't hold your breath waiting for a reply. It may be awhile .


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