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Posted: 12/12/2016 4:54:33 PM EDT
Cmon UPS man.
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That's a bit rich for my blood, probably get an Xbox one s for half.
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Cmon UPS man. View Quote I'd wait for the dolby vision update. Well actually, I'd wait for general reviews first. |
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I have a set of their PM-3 headphones, and the sound quality is outstanding. I wish the rest of my sound system was worthy of this new contraption...
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Ehh, I'd rather have a proper review confirm it rather then just relying on reputation. View Quote Hey fair enough and completely understandable. I buy based on my previous experience with them. Had I not owned them several times before, I'd also wait. Us oppo enthusiasts can be like i-people, sometimes, with our obsession. :D |
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Hey fair enough and completely understandable. I buy based on my previous experience with them. Had I not owned them several times before, I'd also wait. Us oppo enthusiasts can be like i-people, sometimes, with our obsession. :D View Quote Also since CES is in a few weeks and who knows what the competition will be like. |
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Hey fair enough and completely understandable. I buy based on my previous experience with them. Had I not owned them several times before, I'd also wait. Us oppo enthusiasts can be like i-people, sometimes, with our obsession. :D View Quote Not only past experience but once the NDA was lifted all the beta testers started talking. It's nice that one of the testers has the same PJ as I do and was able to answer some specific questions regarding HDR and share side by side screenshots from the Oppo and Samsung. That and, imo, the other 4K players on the market right now are plagued with various issues and from what I consider consumer grade manufacturers. I put Oppo in the prosumer category. And I needed a new SACD player. It was a pretty easy decision for me. Should have it Friday. |
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Great. Now I'm going to have to start saving up for this UHD payer. Last year I bought the region free BDP-103. I already bought a Samsung 4K UHD player to be able to play my 4K Bluray movies. But, Oppo quality is the best.
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Looking forward to this. I've had an Oppo DVD player and have the BR player. Very satisfied - 7.1 analog outs, region free. That being said, if those (or its other features like SACD playing) don't matter to you, I'd get a cheaper player (Best would be to wait until 4K Blu ray players get to the $100 mark).
The BR player was the fastest BR player by far when it came out, though doubtlessly surpassed in ~2 years. Upscaling (DVD to 1080p) is excellent, though again not enough by itself to recommend it, IMO. |
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[#18]
Any updates on this?
Since my Xbox One S doesn't do HD audio bitstream......I'm about ready to order a separate player. |
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Loving mine. I didn't have any of the bigger issues that people reported on release, and they just did a firmware update.
They're working hard to work out the bugs. All of my gear is newer within the last 2 years, so that's probably why I didn't have any of the issues that others had. |
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[#20]
It's been g2g for me.
Only issue I had was with SACD playback. I had to change the Output Resolution and then it played them with no issue. UHD HDR discs are absolutely beautiful. Warcraft looks freaking amazing in HDR. And Ive had no issues that some others on the forums have reported. But I'm also using all new equipment (Oppo>Marantz 7011>Epson 5040UB.) I have not had a single HDMI, HDR, resolution or color space issue. Whatever settings I ask of it, it's passing it directly through to the Marantz and Epson without issue. |
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It's been g2g for me. Only issue I had was with SACD playback. I had to change the Output Resolution and then it played them with no issue. UHD HDR discs are absolutely beautiful. Warcraft looks freaking amazing in HDR. And Ive had no issues that some others on the forums have reported. But I'm also using all new equipment (Oppo>Marantz 7011>Epson 5040UB.) I have not had a single HDMI, HDR, resolution or color space issue. Whatever settings I ask of it, it's passing it directly through to the Marantz and Epson without issue. View Quote The only issue I have isn't related to my sources, but my Denon X4200w. It's apparently molesting HDR signals and downgrading them to 8bit. In order to combat this, I have to hard select 4.4.4 color space and 12bit output. I had to do something similar on my ROKU ultra. If I don't do that, then HDR content has terrible banding in bright areas such as sky shots. Since Marantz and Denon are essentially the same company, it appears that Marantz units of the same year (2015) as my Denon also have the issue, but Marantz has acknowledged it and a fix is coming. Denon hasn't said anything yet, but I have to assume, again because they're basically the same company, that they have a fix coming as well. However, I am considering getting a newer receiver, in the event that Denon doesn't fix it, and the Marantz 7011 is at the top of the list. My question to you is, if you leave the 203 on "auto", do you experience any banding in HDR content? Thanks! |
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[#23]
Very nice!
My Roku is running fine after last update, but had to go into "secret" menu to select 4.2.0 color space to stop the banding. Now Amazon HDR is stunning as well as Netflix 4K. |
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Very nice! My Roku is running fine after last update, but had to go into "secret" menu to select 4.2.0 color space to stop the banding. Now Amazon HDR is stunning as well as Netflix 4K. View Quote Good news. As soon as I get everything back together, I'll have to try it out on the Roku. Admittedly, it's been out of commission for a few weeks. When I first got it (that first week it was released) it worked brilliantly. Only issue I had was sometimes I had to reboot it to get Netflix (or maybe it was Prime...I forget now) 4K content to show up in the menu even though the Marantz and Epson both showed it was being fed the proper signal from the Roku and the Roku itself showed it was in 4K + HDR display mode. But it presented a beautiful picture other than that. And then the updates started and all hell broke loose. Rebooting almost daily, pink screens (HDMI sync issues), banding, etc. The AVS Roku thread looked like GD on it's worst day as everyone was having similar issues. There was a point where I simply stopped streaming content from it. |
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[#25]
The new carpet came today and....*drumroll* it's bad, too. Same f'n problem. They think it probably came from the same roll and that the whole run at the mill was probably bad.
So new carpet (a different brand) is ordered and Im back to 2 weeks wait time. Sigh. F Mohawk carpet. That is all. All of my new gear is going to be old tech by the time this project gets done. |
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[#26]
I want it, but I'll pass.
I need the streaming capabilities and from what my salesman told me this doesn't do netflix. He told me that TV is a better device for streaming movies, but my 65" sony TV doesn't have suitable audio outputs for connecting to my preamp. |
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I want it, but I'll pass. I need the streaming capabilities and from what my salesman told me this doesn't do netflix. He told me that TV is a better device for streaming movies, but my 65" sony TV doesn't have suitable audio outputs for connecting to my preamp. View Quote And I'm ok with that. Just give me the best BD/UHD/SACD player you can make. The TV doesn't have an ARC HDMI port? ETA: And in case you ever are interested, I'll have a 203 for sale as soon as the 205 drops. |
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I think Oppo is out of the streaming apps business from the sounds of it. While I haven't seen confirmation of it with the upcoming 205, Oppo's official stance so far has been that they see no reason to include apps on the new devices because everything under the sun now includes apps (TVs, consoles, dedicated streaming devices, etc.) They seem to be focused on creating dedicated physical media players. And I'm ok with that. Just give me the best BD/UHD/SACD player you can make. The TV doesn't have an ARC HDMI port? ETA: And in case you ever are interested, I'll have a 203 for sale as soon as the 205 drops. View Quote My TV doesn't have good outputs, but OPPO was known for having every output. My console is McIntosh pre/pro and they have some ok music streaming apps, but not TV streaming apps. Before I sent my Mc in for repair, I just got the new amazon fire and I think that might do Netflix. What's the difference between the 203 and 205? |
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I think I have an optical out port, and that seems to be 2 channel only. I also think it has RCA out in a 2 channel as well. My TV doesn't have good outputs, but OPPO was known for having every output. My console is McIntosh pre/pro and they have some ok music streaming apps, but not TV streaming apps. Before I sent my Mc in for repair, I just got the new amazon fire and I think that might do Netflix. What's the difference between the 203 and 205? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I think Oppo is out of the streaming apps business from the sounds of it. While I haven't seen confirmation of it with the upcoming 205, Oppo's official stance so far has been that they see no reason to include apps on the new devices because everything under the sun now includes apps (TVs, consoles, dedicated streaming devices, etc.) They seem to be focused on creating dedicated physical media players. And I'm ok with that. Just give me the best BD/UHD/SACD player you can make. The TV doesn't have an ARC HDMI port? ETA: And in case you ever are interested, I'll have a 203 for sale as soon as the 205 drops. My TV doesn't have good outputs, but OPPO was known for having every output. My console is McIntosh pre/pro and they have some ok music streaming apps, but not TV streaming apps. Before I sent my Mc in for repair, I just got the new amazon fire and I think that might do Netflix. What's the difference between the 203 and 205? The 205 uses the new ESS Pro Sabre DAC. It's a DAC designed for studios and professional applications. Basically, the 205 will have the transport of the 203 with the DAC of their Sonica DAC. It should sound even better than the 203--which sounds incredible as it is. I did find this quote from Oppo regarding apps: "The UDP-20x line of players will not support Tidal or other streaming services, but it is definitely something that we are looking into possibly supporting in the future." So, streaming apps are out for now but it sounds like they have received enough feedback that they may rethink that position. |
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If I hook up the 205 to my Mc it will use my Mc's DAC anyway right?
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It would depend on how you hooked it up. Digital out from the 205 to the Mc = Mc DAC. Analog out from the 205 = 205 DAC. View Quote If I use the Mc DAC is there any benefit to on one 4K player like the oppo 205 over the 203 oppo/samsung/sony or another? |
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Does Mc or Oppo have a better DAC? I'd assume Mc does, but I don't really know. If I use the Mc DAC is there any benefit to on one 4K player like the oppo 205 over the 203 oppo/samsung/sony or another? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It would depend on how you hooked it up. Digital out from the 205 to the Mc = Mc DAC. Analog out from the 205 = 205 DAC. If I use the Mc DAC is there any benefit to on one 4K player like the oppo 205 over the 203 oppo/samsung/sony or another? I have an older BDP-95 and comparing it to my Cambridge DAC magic or Marantz 7702mk2 DAC is quite revealing. The 95 is much better, and the 205 is going to use an even better newer DAC. Plus the xx5 series Oppos are fully balanced designs. They are quite spectacular when using the analog outs and the built in DACs. |
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The BPD-205 just became available for pre order a few minutes ago. It is going to start shipping in two weeks. I ordered one. Can't wait. I have a BPD-95 right now, and love the Sabre DACs for two channel audio via balanced connections to my two channel preamp. The Sabre Pro Dacs are going to be amazing plus the 205 can be used as a stand alone DAC.
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The BPD-205 just became available for pre order a few minutes ago. It is going to start shipping in two weeks. I ordered one. Can't wait. I have a BPD-95 right now, and love the Sabre DACs for two channel audio via balanced connections to my two channel preamp. The Sabre Pro Dacs are going to be amazing plus the 205 can be used as a stand alone DAC. View Quote If they say a 205D is likely in 2018, I might hold off. If Darbee 4K processing is still far off, Im all over it and my 203 will be up for sale. I want a 205 with ESS Sabre Pro DACs and Darbee video processing! GET BOTH! |
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Yeah got my link, too. I haven't ordered yet. I emailed Oppo to see how likely a 205D is. I really wanted an upgrade in video processing, too, but the 205 is using the same OP8591 as the 203. The two ESS Sabre Pros is going to be a huge upgrade on the audio end though! If they say a 205D is likely in 2018, I might hold off. If Darbee 4K processing is still far off, Im all over it and my 203 will be up for sale. I want a 205 with ESS Sabre Pro DACs and Darbee video processing! GET BOTH! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The BPD-205 just became available for pre order a few minutes ago. It is going to start shipping in two weeks. I ordered one. Can't wait. I have a BPD-95 right now, and love the Sabre DACs for two channel audio via balanced connections to my two channel preamp. The Sabre Pro Dacs are going to be amazing plus the 205 can be used as a stand alone DAC. If they say a 205D is likely in 2018, I might hold off. If Darbee 4K processing is still far off, Im all over it and my 203 will be up for sale. I want a 205 with ESS Sabre Pro DACs and Darbee video processing! GET BOTH! I bought a Sony 8000 series UHD BD player a month ago, so I suppose I will have to sell it once the 205 arrives and is stable. I have almost a full home theater setup sitting on shelves not being used now... with 2 channel HT bypass... its a disease. |
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I was reading on a closed Facebook 4K forum that Darbee is way off on 4k video enhancements. Could be true, or not... I bought a Sony 8000 series UHD BD player a month ago, so I suppose I will have to sell it once the 205 arrives and is stable. I have almost a full home theater setup sitting on shelves not being used now... with 2 channel HT bypass... its a disease. View Quote Darbee does not have a working solution that can do native UHD media, and even when they will have a solution, it will likely be too expensive for us to implement, so there are no plans to support Darbee processing with these current generation of players. I knew the first part of the first sentence, but they are close as they (Darbee) talked about it at CE2016. But the second half of that sentence is unexpected. I'm wondering if the 20x series is basically going to consist of the 203 and 205 and a 30x series is going to pickup the apps and Darbee processing. So, 205 ordered. Anyone interested in a well cared for 203? |
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Looks like I have my answer. (Not from a re: to my e-mail, this was just posted on AVS about an hour ago.) Darbee does not have a working solution that can do native UHD media, and even when they will have a solution, it will likely be too expensive for us to implement, so there are no plans to support Darbee processing with these current generation of players. I knew the first part of the first sentence, but they are close as they (Darbee) talked about it at CE2016. But the second half of that sentence is unexpected. I'm wondering if the 20x series is basically going to consist of the 203 and 205 and a 30x series is going to pickup the apps and Darbee processing. So, 205 ordered. Anyone interested in a well cared for 203? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I was reading on a closed Facebook 4K forum that Darbee is way off on 4k video enhancements. Could be true, or not... I bought a Sony 8000 series UHD BD player a month ago, so I suppose I will have to sell it once the 205 arrives and is stable. I have almost a full home theater setup sitting on shelves not being used now... with 2 channel HT bypass... its a disease. Darbee does not have a working solution that can do native UHD media, and even when they will have a solution, it will likely be too expensive for us to implement, so there are no plans to support Darbee processing with these current generation of players. I knew the first part of the first sentence, but they are close as they (Darbee) talked about it at CE2016. But the second half of that sentence is unexpected. I'm wondering if the 20x series is basically going to consist of the 203 and 205 and a 30x series is going to pickup the apps and Darbee processing. So, 205 ordered. Anyone interested in a well cared for 203? |
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The apps are easy to add with updates. The video process, sounds like a big nooope. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I was reading on a closed Facebook 4K forum that Darbee is way off on 4k video enhancements. Could be true, or not... I bought a Sony 8000 series UHD BD player a month ago, so I suppose I will have to sell it once the 205 arrives and is stable. I have almost a full home theater setup sitting on shelves not being used now... with 2 channel HT bypass... its a disease. Darbee does not have a working solution that can do native UHD media, and even when they will have a solution, it will likely be too expensive for us to implement, so there are no plans to support Darbee processing with these current generation of players. I knew the first part of the first sentence, but they are close as they (Darbee) talked about it at CE2016. But the second half of that sentence is unexpected. I'm wondering if the 20x series is basically going to consist of the 203 and 205 and a 30x series is going to pickup the apps and Darbee processing. So, 205 ordered. Anyone interested in a well cared for 203? Personally, I don't care about the lack of streaming. I want a dedicated transport that supports BD/4K/SACD because I think physical media trumps streamed media in quality. But a Darbee version should would have been nice. Can't wait to get my hands on the SABRE Pros! Cmon May! |
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I received mine yesterday and got it hooked up. It is wonderful. The Sabre Pro DAC sounds amazing in 2 channel. Better than my BDP-95. I run both with balanced connection to my 2 channel preamp. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
I received mine yesterday and got it hooked up. It is wonderful. The Sabre Pro DAC sounds amazing in 2 channel. Better than my BDP-95. I run both with balanced connection to my 2 channel preamp. |
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Excellent! I'm hoping to get it in the rack tonight and have a little 2CH session. Im really interested to hear how the Sabre Pro compares with the Burr Brown in the Marantz. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I received mine yesterday and got it hooked up. It is wonderful. The Sabre Pro DAC sounds amazing in 2 channel. Better than my BDP-95. I run both with balanced connection to my 2 channel preamp. I am loving mine more every time I listen to it! |
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Did you get it hooked up yet? I am loving mine more every time I listen to it! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I received mine yesterday and got it hooked up. It is wonderful. The Sabre Pro DAC sounds amazing in 2 channel. Better than my BDP-95. I run both with balanced connection to my 2 channel preamp. I am loving mine more every time I listen to it! It's on my list today. I was going to get some work done outside but it's supposed to rain all day so Im going to spend the day in the media room instead. Im actually going to leave the 203 in the rack and hook up the 205 at the same time. I'll run the 203 to the Marantz via HDMI (digital) and the 205 to the Marantz via analog. Then I'll run some real-time AB comparisons between the two as I have multiple copies from the same master of DSOTM, When Hell Freezes Over and Brothers In Arms. |
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Wow digdug you aren't kidding. Intoxicating.
I honestly wasn't expecting to hear a huge difference but wow was I wrong. Took a bit of time to get my measurements since I'm bypassing all of the room correction and bass management in the Marantz, but wow. Sultans of swing sounds amazing. Money for nothing, so far away...all incredible. Digging into Holly Cole Trio and Diana Krall now. Haven't event got to Floyd yet. Big smile on my face tonight. |
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Wow digdug you aren't kidding. Intoxicating. I honestly wasn't expecting to hear a huge difference but wow was I wrong. Took a bit of time to get my measurements since I'm bypassing all of the room correction and bass management in the Marantz, but wow. Sultans of swing sounds amazing. Money for nothing, so far away...all incredible. Digging into Holly Cole Trio and Diana Krall now. Haven't event got to Floyd yet. Big smile on my face tonight. View Quote Oppo UDP-205 -> Emotiva XSP-1 -> Emotiva XPA-2. All balanced connections to each other. My surround pre-pro is a Marantz AV7702mkII running through the balanced home theater bypass connection of the XSP-1. Surround amps are balanced connected Emotiva XPA-5 for low surround speakers and Emotiva BasX A-500 for high surround speakers. |
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