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Posted: 12/21/2015 10:41:41 AM EDT
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I enjoyed it a lot. I saw it on Thursday and again last night. There was another spoiler thread in GD but it somehow disappeared.
I agree that it feels like a rehash of A New Hope. The plot is very, very similar. I also agree that they are setting things up for the next movies. The Good -
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The Ugly -
Here are some of my thoughts on what happened or what might happen. I think Rey is going to be Luke's daughter. I think when Ben (Kylo) went to the dark side and killed everyone, Luke wiped Rey's memory and hid her on Jakku. I think she had a little bit of training and that's why she was able to use the Force so easily. Kylo will redeem himself in some way or another. They hinted at it way too much. I liked how Han died. I'm glad it wasn't some other dumb way. |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 11:17:03 AM EDT
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All trilogies:
Movie #1 - introduce characters and establish the central conflict Movie #2 - pursue the plot and prepare for final conflict Movie #3 - final conflict is explored and resolved Actually, whether the story is in a book or a movie, that is how it works. I liked seeing the old characters back again. Agreed, this is very much like Episodes IV thru VI. I did NOT like the bad guy. That is, he did not scare me the way Darth Vader did. Why do they pick crappy actors to play Darth Vader-ish characters? First, Hayden Christensen and now this guy - they were terrible. GREAT BAD GUYS: Dick Prowse/James Earl Jones (Darth Vader), Iam Mcdiarmid (Evil Emperor); Ray Park (Darth Maul) and now Andy Serkis (Snoke) I liked Finn. Yes, there was a credibility problem with the character. Still, the actor did a great job. Daisy Ridley was GREAT! Not because she's a babe, she did a great job acting. I hope those two are able to keep it up and even improve in the next two films. Mark Hamill,... this could be really good. |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 11:21:49 AM EDT
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The theater I was in on Saturday night had ~25 people in it. They were all over the age of 50. It was empty.
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Posted: 12/21/2015 11:55:29 PM EDT
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Just came back from it.
Might as well have called it Episode VII: A New Hope. 
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Posted: 12/22/2015 12:39:35 AM EDT
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I think it was a great movie, original trilogy feel, no annoying jar jar bonks character! Thank you JJ Abrams for that all in all, I'm going to see it a couple of more times
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Posted: 12/26/2015 6:05:53 AM EDT
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As a big fan, I have to say Kylo Ren is a big pussy. He's force attuned, but I can't say he's dark Jedi status. Maybe I had higher expectations, it was good but not exceptional.
The ending was too rushed. Starkiller base was destroyed too quickly and easily. |
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Posted: 12/26/2015 7:02:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As a big fan, I have to say Kylo Ren is a big pussy. He's force attuned, but I can't say he's dark Jedi status. Maybe I had higher expectations, it was good but not exceptional. The ending was too rushed. Starkiller base was destroyed too quickly and easily. |
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Posted: 12/26/2015 7:27:29 AM EDT
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I kind of groaned when their was yet another "Death Star" they had to destroy in almost the same way as the original. This really made it feel like a rehash of the original movie. That was really my only criticism. |
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Posted: 12/28/2015 3:27:23 PM EDT
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GREAT BAD GUYS: Dick Prowse/James Earl Jones (Darth Vader), Iam Mcdiarmid (Evil Emperor); Ray Park (Darth Maul) and now Andy Serkis (Snoke). How was Darth Maul a great bad guy? He was all gimmick, it was all about him looking like the devil and having a two bladed sabre. Thats all he had going for him. |
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Posted: 12/28/2015 3:30:05 PM EDT
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Just came back from it. Might as well have called it Episode VII: A New Hope. Which was A New Hope and Which was The Force Awakens? Secret given to a droid. Droid flees Huge bad guy force looking for droid on desert planet Escape bad guys from desert planet in assumed junk spaceship. Junk spaceship is disabled and captured via tractor beam. into a .... Gigantic space weapon shaped like a ball. Said ship blows up billions of people Good guys fly down the big balls trenches. and fight Death of a Major character involving long intimate history between the two and it is ended with a light sabre Big ball blows up Everyone celebrates the end. ALmost in the same exact order as well save for the timing of the weapon being fired.. |
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Posted: 12/28/2015 3:35:17 PM EDT
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Which was A New Hope and Which was The Force Awakens? Secret given to a droid. Droid flees Huge bad guy force looking for droid on desert planet Escape bad guys from desert planet in assumed junk spaceship. Junk spaceship is disabled and captured via tractor beam. into a .... Gigantic space weapon shaped like a ball. Said ship blows up billions of people Good guys fly down the big balls trenches. and fight Death of a Major character involving long intimate history between the two and it is ended with a light sabre Big ball blows up Everyone celebrates the end. ALmost in the same exact order as well save for the timing of the weapon being fired.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just came back from it. Might as well have called it Episode VII: A New Hope. Which was A New Hope and Which was The Force Awakens? Secret given to a droid. Droid flees Huge bad guy force looking for droid on desert planet Escape bad guys from desert planet in assumed junk spaceship. Junk spaceship is disabled and captured via tractor beam. into a .... Gigantic space weapon shaped like a ball. Said ship blows up billions of people Good guys fly down the big balls trenches. and fight Death of a Major character involving long intimate history between the two and it is ended with a light sabre Big ball blows up Everyone celebrates the end. ALmost in the same exact order as well save for the timing of the weapon being fired.. Yep, pretty disappointed overall. Would smash the chick though 
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Posted: 12/28/2015 3:36:16 PM EDT
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It also tried way too hard with ironic twists. --
Instead of Leia giving a secret to a droid to give to someone, someone gave a secret to a droid to give to Leia. Instead of the bad guys disabling and capturing the Sole and the Falcon with a Empire ship, Han Solo does it with a stolen First Order ship. Probably many more I tried to forget about. Oh and bet your ass on this-- Instead of Luke being hidden away on a desert planet, Luke hides his daughter away on a desert planet. |
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Posted: 12/28/2015 4:32:33 PM EDT
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Which was A New Hope and Which was The Force Awakens? Secret given to a droid. Droid flees Huge bad guy force looking for droid on desert planet Droid captured by desert planet scavengers Taken from scavengers by new protagonist Escape bad guys from desert planet in assumed junk spaceship. Junk spaceship is disabled and captured via tractor beam. New protagonist hides in floor of junk spaceship when boarded into a .... Gigantic space weapon shaped like a ball. Said ship blows up billions of people Good guys fly down the big balls trenches. and fight Good guys navigate hallways and corridors of space weapon without being captured or killed (with exception of next line) Death of a Major character involving long intimate history between the two and it is ended with a light sabre Big ball blows up Everyone celebrates the end. ALmost in the same exact order as well save for the timing of the weapon being fired.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just came back from it. Might as well have called it Episode VII: A New Hope. Which was A New Hope and Which was The Force Awakens? Secret given to a droid. Droid flees Huge bad guy force looking for droid on desert planet Droid captured by desert planet scavengers Taken from scavengers by new protagonist Escape bad guys from desert planet in assumed junk spaceship. Junk spaceship is disabled and captured via tractor beam. New protagonist hides in floor of junk spaceship when boarded into a .... Gigantic space weapon shaped like a ball. Said ship blows up billions of people Good guys fly down the big balls trenches. and fight Good guys navigate hallways and corridors of space weapon without being captured or killed (with exception of next line) Death of a Major character involving long intimate history between the two and it is ended with a light sabre Big ball blows up Everyone celebrates the end. ALmost in the same exact order as well save for the timing of the weapon being fired.. I guess the biggest switch was the cantina scene taking place on a different planet. |
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Posted: 12/28/2015 4:44:41 PM EDT
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I was disappointed. The story was rehashed blehhhhh. Too many of the characters had no screen appeal, were out of place, or both.
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Posted: 12/28/2015 8:50:23 PM EDT
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Kylo will redeem himself in some way or another. They hinted at it way too much. probably. He is trying to be like Vader afterall and Vader redeemed himself and embraced the light side in the end |
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Posted: 12/28/2015 8:53:18 PM EDT
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hated that they Click To View Spoiler
down playing the original cast to make room for new I can handle but I didn't like that I did like that Akbar was in it with the original actor and voice actor, he should have said it was a trap as corny as it would have been to have him repeat the line |
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Posted: 12/29/2015 1:18:06 AM EDT
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hated that they Click To View Spoiler down playing the original cast to make room for new I can handle but I didn't like that I did like that Akbar was in it with the original actor and voice actor, he should have said it was a trap as corny as it would have been to have him repeat the line I don't think you have to use a spoiler tag. The thread is for folks who have seen it. |
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Posted: 12/29/2015 1:19:18 AM EDT
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Oh go ahead and call it Tatooine. Why not. They friggin may as well have had it all happen there again. I guess the biggest switch was the cantina scene taking place on a different planet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just came back from it. Might as well have called it Episode VII: A New Hope. Which was A New Hope and Which was The Force Awakens? Secret given to a droid. Droid flees Huge bad guy force looking for droid on desert planet Droid captured by desert planet scavengers Taken from scavengers by new protagonist Escape bad guys from desert planet in assumed junk spaceship. Junk spaceship is disabled and captured via tractor beam. New protagonist hides in floor of junk spaceship when boarded into a .... Gigantic space weapon shaped like a ball. Said ship blows up billions of people Good guys fly down the big balls trenches. and fight Good guys navigate hallways and corridors of space weapon without being captured or killed (with exception of next line) Death of a Major character involving long intimate history between the two and it is ended with a light sabre Big ball blows up Everyone celebrates the end. ALmost in the same exact order as well save for the timing of the weapon being fired.. Oh go ahead and call it Tatooine. Why not. They friggin may as well have had it all happen there again. I guess the biggest switch was the cantina scene taking place on a different planet. |
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Posted: 12/29/2015 1:58:42 AM EDT
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I was waiting for Jakku to be revealed as the former Tattooine.
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Posted: 12/29/2015 9:51:18 AM EDT
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I was waiting for Jakku to be revealed as the former Tattooine. Its like they knew they ripped off 87% of Episode IV but were worried their cover would be blown if they called it Tatooine. |
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Posted: 12/29/2015 7:00:23 PM EDT
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I don't think you have to use a spoiler tag. The thread is for folks who have seen it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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hated that they Click To View Spoiler down playing the original cast to make room for new I can handle but I didn't like that I did like that Akbar was in it with the original actor and voice actor, he should have said it was a trap as corny as it would have been to have him repeat the line I don't think you have to use a spoiler tag. The thread is for folks who have seen it. yeah, but there are always those people that ignore the warnings 
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Posted: 2/25/2016 2:30:32 AM EDT
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It was disappointing that they did not expand on the chromed-out stormtrooper (Captain Phasma, apparently). The trailers made her out to be as badass as Kylo Ren (who turned out to be not so badass). In searching for the stormtrooper's character name, I came across an article that she is played by the same actress who plays Game of Thrones character Brienne of Tarth (the blonde amazon). Interesting, but so much for hoping it was a hot chick under that mirrored helmet. |
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Posted: 2/28/2016 11:16:22 PM EDT
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I hated that they made Kylo Ren out basically as a kid throwing a temper tantrum, especially when he tears that room apart with his lightsaber, and gets all whiney on the walkway with Han...
He basically came of as a whiney emo kid rebelling against mommy and daddy and throwing tantrums because he can't get his way, didn't scream sith to me... |
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Posted: 2/28/2016 11:23:57 PM EDT
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In all reality it was just reminded me of the first one. Some new people, some old ones, but nothing particularly new and different.
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Posted: 3/3/2016 11:38:24 AM EDT
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Its like they knew they ripped off 87% of Episode IV but were worried their cover would be blown if they called it Tatooine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was waiting for Jakku to be revealed as the former Tattooine. Its like they knew they ripped off 87% of Episode IV but were worried their cover would be blown if they called it Tatooine. Jakku (and the battle which left all the hardware laying around) are supposedly from one of the book series tied to the franchise. This is definitely a departure from Luca's viewpoint that all the creative content and story lines that appear outside the movies is not considered canon or affects continuity. |
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Posted: 3/3/2016 6:53:21 PM EDT
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I hated that they made Kylo Ren out basically as a kid throwing a temper tantrum, especially when he tears that room apart with his lightsaber, and gets all whiney on the walkway with Han... He basically came of as a whiney emo kid rebelling against mommy and daddy and throwing tantrums because he can't get his way, didn't scream sith to me... See, I think this is part of what makes him great. He's pure emotion, he's not calculated he's just raw, which is all part of using the dark side of the force. Right down to him taking a body shot from the bowcaster ( a weapon that we've seen one shot many foes,) and him smashing the wound to get adrenaline dumps. I think they are doing it right with Kylo. |
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Posted: 3/26/2016 10:10:15 PM EDT
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Just came back from it. Might as well have called it Episode VII: A New Hope. I am late to the party, but I didn't want to see it in a theater filled with little fuckers texting on their cell phones, so I waited for it to come to the little one screen old folks theater. I think it should have been called Episode VII: The Disappointment Awakens. I tried to like it. I really did my best. The whole falling out between Han and Leia made zero sense. Duke tucking tail and running away after his experience with the semi-turned bad apple, made less sense. Fin isn't really that out of place, when you think about affirmative action. Another Death Star? WTF?! May JJ Abrams be repeatedly sodomized by elephants for all times, for this monstrosity.
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